Lying avatars

[MassZombicide]

But most people's avatars are a lie, they'd just use this to make themselves look honest.

[RarewareLover]

hahaha that is so stupid

[ReasonSharp]

I'm already making a hack to make my avatar always appear honest.

Seriously, if trustworthiness is crucial, just use webcams.

[AcePilot2009]

Actually, they want Avatars that can lie.

Why else would they create them?

[TheBananaPuppi]

what??? "Virtual Meetings?" WTF? Just use REAL people, like a webcam, if its such a big deal that people are lying in stupid Avatar chats. Is this really that important? I think this was sort of a pointless experiment. I mean, really, would you have a "meeting" with an avatar if it was really that serious? What has the world come to? Just video call the f***ing person; you don't HAVE to use an avatar.

[Qulopuaa]

complete bull,I dont know what truth is so i lie always with my eyes,thats complete bull to

[Cketzalcoatl]

Wait, what? Used to make avatars more trustworthy? How about, oh, I don't know, MAKING A FRAKING LIE DETECTOR

[Pelonetillo]

0:12 i dont trust that dude

[jmm1233]

lol , need to stylise the goggles a bit , miniturize it , i know it only tests but we need to bring back the 90's screen specks with micro camera in them

[Tressco]

Aaand another police state tool...

[AntimatterRadio]

@Tressco yup, just more crap our stolen money (taxes) will have to pay for to further imprison us. Aint the new world order fun! My favorite part is all these zombies that think this is all so 'cool', but that's like jews thinking nazi technology was just awesome.

[Tressco]

Sharp analogy! :)

[shim2dawg]

photoshopped!

[ilovehd831]

lol yeah.. i'm sure people are going to wear these headsets so other people in virtual words will be able to tell whether or not they're lying.

[digitalni]

omg fake!

[p0zzz]

Virtitual meetings, THAT is the conclusion? zzz

[CorvusKrOw]

"The technology should help make avatars trustworthy when they're used in virtual meetings"

Oh, so you mean that companys can use avatars at meetings and lie as much as they want, yet seem trustworthy. Well there's definitely a market for that...

[asumazilla]

Yeah put a button so we can make sure eyes don't move when we lie :)

[Evilfisher]

how useless crap

[MuammarAlGathafi]

Death to the Machines!

[graphattic]

Oh, I got one for you. This is going on the Virual networks, Virtual Sex, Virtual online games industry, so who in the right mind gives a fuck. Plus it was fucking expectable. People recognize lies from expressions, it does not take a genius to realise they would catch on this.

[mate2000]

That's cool, but aren't webcams even more realistic in virtual meetings?

[lyoshka]

oh my, are these guys serious?! i thought that was a very very very old news

[GrimSoul66]

Really... just really?

[dafttool]

So let me get this right, the real application of this is that if you want to lie, keep your eyes steady.

[lejink]

so now my computer can lie to me, and make it believable?

[asumazilla]

@lejink No we computers can't lie *keeps virtual eyes very still*

[billythefifer]

Your assuming that the person wearing the eye tracking is the same person doing the talking. Two people one honest and unaware of the lies and one selling a fake bill of goods. Escuse me I'm just twisted enough to think of that.

[Shakespeare1612]

I am wearing my rediculous eye tracker thingy, honest. I am.

[TechState]

so if you want "trustworthy" avatars just keep there eyes still ????

well woop de do, ground breaking stuff, you mean don't implement ridiculous eye-tracking hardware and just use normal avatars without eye-tracking??? and it cost you how much to find this out???

This kind of reporting/news item makes me cringe as a scientist, what a waste of time.

[2Luke]

great! we can interrogate via webcam without spending too much on travel expenses.

[pokerslut530]

i literllay LOL'd on that last line

[pokerslut530]

@pokerslut530 literally* :[

[topphemelig]

A littlebit of memory editing, and tada.... ur eyes are always looking forward. I will never trust these things, EVER -.-

[Shalek]

That is pretty damn cool, the avatars with emotions not the lie detection, the lie detection is lame.

[Magician12345]

so when lying, dont move your eyes much

[Xxero0]

We have this great new invention called a webcam....

[outlawkelb]

what a useless peice of research......avatar? seriously?

[navigatorhat]

Wait a second. So avatars with the eye-tracking are more obvious when they're lying... making those without the added extra more trust worthy.

The findings are interesting but the attempt to fit it to a problem has actually undermined it slightly.

[ad627]

... really.

[phahtrox]

That's why I never trusted anyone from Oblivion!!!

[DoctorPlausible]

Yes! Let's do it! Let's have more meetings where more people tell more lies and get away with them more often! Way to go, future!

[captcaveman4201]

well if your going to lie.. i bet you would just disable that feature.

[monkeyafg]

webcam...?

[Charlymaumushi]

Umm I didn't even know about virtual meetings...

[BloodyBBQ]

Solution: a freakin Webcam!!!!

[vinak963]

virtual meetings? wtf?

[anonforuz]

if there are virtual meetings I think they should keep the eyes as they are. If they can show someone is lying, I see no reason to change it.

[MasterClipEditor]

Virtual meetings???????????????

[gamemad29]

why not just use a webcam?

[Cypress77]

@gamemad29 Mabye for secret anonymous meetings.

[Pelonetillo]

lol, seriously

[luckystrke]

@gamemad29 That's what i was thinking too (:

[ShallowThoughts]

@gamemad29 Because you suck

[thereisthespoon]

avatar streaming probably requires a lot lesser bandwidth I guess. Sound streaming is relatively cheaper than video.

[IDIEININIIS]

@gamemad29 meetings were just an example of the application. I personally think this technology would be better used in the entertainment industry, for example video games.

Using avatars for meetings doesn't seem too far-fetched though. There would be consistency between every person using the avatar, they would always have a suit on, always be in front of a clear background, etc. Webcams can be blurry, or you may have a bad hair day, or the lighting is too dark or bright, etc.

[Pyritie]

@gamemad29 anonymity, for example

[Caesaurus]

@gamemad29 totally agree! =)) so much useless work with modeling & textures, eye tracking devices, data processing for NOTHING! :))

[Caesaurus]

@gamemad29 but then of course, most of the people do not want to show their real identities... damn those Second Life fanatics FREAKS! :P

[ragenFOX]

@gamemad29 because they are Americans, Americans use the hardest advanced way, while the others just use a simple working way.

e.g. Americans saw that a pen cant work while in space, they paid many $s to solve this problem, and with lots of researches they made a pen that write in space

the same problem with the Russians, they used a pencil.

[lygophile]

Matrix, hook us up!

[Charlymaumushi]

@lygophile I want to be rich!

[Hairysteed]

"Good morning! My name is president Taft and this is my brother-in-law Lee-Harvey Oswald. This is the 35th season of our Oscar-winning radio series: "Prune-farming in the Ukraine". This afternoon we will prove to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that grasshoppers in Auckland grow to the size of Humvees." - Penn Jillette in the opening of Penn&Teller: Bullshit episode titled Lie Detectors

[murmelswe]

@Hairysteed Lol, what the fuck?

[Sickshot12]

Idiots need to learn to listen - THIS IS FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS

[spyDevilTeam]

sorry but it is peace of shit!

[Shaunt1]

Aren't these only used in games?

[Theowest]

creepy eyes... :S

[TheBilly]

"....more trustworthy when they're used in virtual meetings". Talk about a solution in search of a problem! Sometimes it's really best that you don't try to pigeonhole a story into a potential application just to appease the public; let them appreciate pure research once in a while

[ace76543]

@TheBilly what is research without practical application? We can research all we want, but if we never put it to work we'd still be throwing rocks at bears for food. That is a stupid reason they mentioned but if they had no reason to do it 1. they would get no funding, and 2. it would be absolutely pointless. what's the point of researching something you can't use? unless it's something like the LHC, which we will use the info for later research and understanding, but that's different

[TheBilly]

@ace76543 "unless it's something like the LHC, which we will use the info for later research and understanding" - And this, my friend, is what we call "pure research". We have a term for it and everything. You acknowledge that the pursuit of knowledge which does not have immediately obvious applications is beneficial to society so you seem a bit ambivalent of the point you're making.

[TheBilly]

@ace76543 Carl Sagan has a good quote on this topic relating to Maxwell's equations from one of his books, but it's too long to attempt to explain in the 500 character comment box.....

[Cyrathil]

@ace76543

" unless it's something like the LHC, which we will use the info for later research and understanding, but that's different"

How. The reason why we invest in pure research is because we don't know when something will have application.

Sadly though, you're correct they will get no funding, but it's because of this attitude that they will get no funding, and because pure research is wrong, or useless.

[blazednlovinit]

@TheBilly

Solution in search of a problem, this is what i was thinking, just not so gracefully put. i agree on just appreciating research as research and knowledge as knowledge

[AdamBMorris]

@TheBilly

That's New Scientist for you

[Gearz86]

@TheBilly lol

[DrakeMagnum]

@TheBilly you make a fine point

[graphattic]

@TheBilly Exactly.

[Alexoneil]

@TheBilly I almways knew I couldn't trust those shifty human females in WoW!

[Zimy0]

We already have webcams...why use a crappy 3d model?

[outled]

i trust no-one especially pixelated replicunts. New scientist or new world order scientist? One thing is for sure science and its spin doctors has slaughtered the animal within. Retribution will folow.

[Aaberg123]

@outled

You're a moron, and deep down I think you agree.

[Livenderrr]

I never look people longer than 2 sec straight in the eyes.... when I lie or dont lie... doesnt matter

[mepnomon]

finally something expedient! This will help me find a cure the brain tumor I'm having from thinking about this!

[luddomatic]

nice work

[Loaki00]

Lol!! Slow day at the technological advancement department huh? They really mean it when they say,

"Eye-tracking systems could make virtual interaction more truthful"

Wtf?

[pubtor]

lol avatar

[Minkais]

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[evothepker]

Great.

[djsuperstar717]

facial expression tracking for 3d display glasses

[DIProgan]

buying expensive devices to put in front of your eyes just to detect if you yourself is lying, dont see it happening :P

[N3CR1S]

@DIProgan

Did you not understand the video? Its not at all about what you commented :S

THEY buy eye tracking equiptment and THEY test people who make false or true statements. OTHERS then watched avatars whith those recorded eyemovements.

Conclusion:

Even on avatars, a bigger proportion of watchers could spot lies if the eyes were moving, THUS knowledge gained from this test can make avatars more trustworthy, or if you like, giving of a sense that they are lying to you.

[DIProgan]

@N3CR1S like it wasn't enough having people lying all the time ^^

[JohnF30Music]

@N3CR1S what are u talking about? "making avatars more trustworthy" ? what do u mean by that? i don't understand. what are avatars, and what is the application of all this? please elaborate

[TigerSlashX]

go die.

[N3CR1S]

@JohnF30Music Sorry, everything in life is not handed to you for free. do some thinking of yourown and you will probably understand. I invested enough time on this subject in my respons to that other guy.

good luck, bye.

[ubersteigen]

Who the hell actually uses these? And for what reason!?

[davetista]

nice but i move around like crazy. even when i'm not lying.

[DeclanWCE]

2nd. but awesomse!

[darthukas]

haha