Justin: If your church family has given you the boot, then that is their loss. Those years of being in that family and growing up in the church will always be a part of who you are. Build on that. Stay true to who you are and being that shining light of love to those who hate.
Justin is a true man of god, and this is how i see him. i have been though this as well. i know god, and he loves me as a gay man. Because he lives with in me. and if anyone wants to know the real truth for them selfs,i will say Go with in your self, for the Kingdom of God, is with in all of us. And how we Feel & Think & See about our Selfs is very Inportent because if we Love our Selfs we Love God, and out of this Place the Iner Heart we can Stand in Gods Love, and this is truth for all of us.
On my home page is the address of Dr Michael Piazza. He has videos and information about Homosexuality and Christianity. You might be surprised, I know I was. You know you never really had a "church family" if they could dump you so easily. Please listen to Michael's videos. If you have any challenges finding them, let me know. You are a child of God just the way you are.
It doesn't surprise me, I was brought into a room at my church and made to watch a video called "It's not gay" another brain washing video on top of the brain washing sermons. I felt more than relieved when I came out, and I left the church.
Well of course he couldn't go to church anymore. Church isn't for sinners - it's for people as pure as the driven snow, right? heh. My mother told me a story about going to a church with one of her GF's and the pastor said essentially the same thing - sinners not allowed in his church - so she stood up and walked out. It didn't hurt that my grandfather was the richest man in our county; nobody would fuck with him or his.
i too live in SC but not in St. Matthews. im in Camden. anyways, dude fuck the church. you only need yourself. do you think i need the comfort and help of others with what i believe? and i believe in something that literally everybody disagrees with, unless you are of my kind.
I cant believe churches that claim to follow jesus, who ate with tax collectors and was followed by prostitutes and loved them all with god's love can somehow justify kicking someone out of the church for any reason, never theless for the way they were made. its so heartbreaking
Screw religion and SCREW "christians" that treat a human being like this. Do they really think God or Jesus would treat another person like that? It makes me sick.
Please don't paint all Christian churches with the same stroke. There are bad ones and good ones. The good ones don't out of their way judge others, and they try to make a positive difference in the world. It's the bad ones that tend to stand out, unfortunately...sort of like certain politicians.
@chpoof The 'don't assume that all Christians are bad' excuse doesn't fly if the 'good' Christians sit silently in their pews whispering 'That's not right' while the CINOs rant and rave for all the world to see. There's a REASON why the 'bad' Christians are getting all the press - it's because they're the only ones (with very few exceptions) making themselves heard.
@rookzparliament You have the media to blame for that, not Christians. I know many affirming Christians who go out of their way to show their support for us, but the media would rather focus on the Jerry Falwells and the Fred Phelps-types. Do you actually think Sarah Palin gets more attention than Hillary Clinton because she's smarter?
when the 'people of God' make ya feel that God doesn't want you, it's a hell of a challenge. over the years I have accepted responsibility for my own spiritual wellness and repopulated my life with people who know what real love is about. I trust and hope you will be able to do the same. peace be with you.
A so called family that rejects you in that way, after knowing you for that long was never your family in the first place, which can only mean that they are still faking to be family to those left around them. They would back-stab their own children if it meant bringing them closer to God.
I hope you get out of that community one day, there is lots of love in the world. There are people out there that love you even though you didn't button your collar buttons, I won't report you to the gay fashion police, don't worry. lol
In the long run, no one knows what the divine wants. It's all assumption and opinion. Anything that doesn't promote harmony, love, etc has no right calling itself righteous etc.
I kept waiting for the story to take a positive turn. So tragic to be treated that way by people you considered family for the past 21 years. Be assured that there are many people in this world who love you and accept you for exactly who you are.
You're better off without those judgmental bigots in your life, Justin. They don't even have an effing clue what God's Love consists of. Hold your head when you see these losers on the street; you have nothing to be ashamed of. It is they that should cast their heads down in shame.
That is bullshit. How can a church, devoted to good and his message of love and acceptance be so full of hate and denial?
Love is love, people, it doesn't change whether you love a man or a woman. I'm speechless by what they think is christian. This is a despicable representation of what the christian faith is supposed to be. Love, not hate. I'm forever dissappointed in your church.
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Stephen Weinberg
Why does anyone believe that religion is force for good in this world.
From the Catholic Chruch hiding and abetting pedophiles, to the hate campaigns of the Southern Baptists, and to the secret funding of anti-gay campaigns of the Mormons.
@SuperContinuum That's not what this is about. It's about the christian faith being about love and acceptance and Justin's church denying him that. The christian dogma is about loving your next and ... even though I'm a person deeply un-christian and very critical of all things religious, the contuct of Justin's church was exactely the opposite of that. If God exists, he's looking down on them with shame, shaking his head in disgust. This is not what christianity is about.
Christian churches could not exist if they didn't have someone to persecute. Their message is not love, it is hate. Their message is rooted in their belief that they know better than you do what God wants. The fact is that the more religious a person or a congregation is, the less spiritual they are. Prejudice is a construct of the ego.
@Rumake - This is the same bullshit they say about us - these sweeping generalizations - 'you queers always, you faggots never. I'm gay and I have been to a number of gay-welcoming churches - not the MCC either..
@jhr459 You are right. My comment was a generalization. I know Christians who are good decent people. And I have been associated with gay accepting churches. In that sense my comment is not fair to them. But all "religions" are based on dogma whose basic premise is my dogma is better than your dogman. If a person does not commit the original sin, "I believe, therefore you must believe", then there could well be a spiritual presence separate from theie ego.
@ImFromDriftwood You guys do such a great job with this series. I just tweeted this link to all my friends. I live in North Carolina and this anti-gay stuff has just got to stop, especially from the church. Thank you for covering this!
@pansyboy88 Amen. If anything is going to Hell, it's all these misbegotten so-called Christian churches who are so busy judging and condemning everyone else that they completely miss Jesus' message to all of us; "Love one another as yourself" and "Love me as I have loved you".
Justin: If your church family has given you the boot, then that is their loss. Those years of being in that family and growing up in the church will always be a part of who you are. Build on that. Stay true to who you are and being that shining light of love to those who hate.
Belkara 1 week ago
Jesus loves us. He's good when there's nothing good in us. He's homosexual, he loves Christ, the point is he LOVES CHRIST.
tubeyoujj 3 weeks ago
And this from so called christians.
trionboy 1 month ago
Justin is a true man of god, and this is how i see him. i have been though this as well. i know god, and he loves me as a gay man. Because he lives with in me. and if anyone wants to know the real truth for them selfs,i will say Go with in your self, for the Kingdom of God, is with in all of us. And how we Feel & Think & See about our Selfs is very Inportent because if we Love our Selfs we Love God, and out of this Place the Iner Heart we can Stand in Gods Love, and this is truth for all of us.
purelove700 3 months ago
Christian love gives full meaning to the words of hypocrisy, hate and bigotry.
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On my home page is the address of Dr Michael Piazza. He has videos and information about Homosexuality and Christianity. You might be surprised, I know I was. You know you never really had a "church family" if they could dump you so easily. Please listen to Michael's videos. If you have any challenges finding them, let me know. You are a child of God just the way you are.
yescandles 4 months ago
It doesn't surprise me, I was brought into a room at my church and made to watch a video called "It's not gay" another brain washing video on top of the brain washing sermons. I felt more than relieved when I came out, and I left the church.
MzOpheliaCox 5 months ago
Well of course he couldn't go to church anymore. Church isn't for sinners - it's for people as pure as the driven snow, right? heh. My mother told me a story about going to a church with one of her GF's and the pastor said essentially the same thing - sinners not allowed in his church - so she stood up and walked out. It didn't hurt that my grandfather was the richest man in our county; nobody would fuck with him or his.
jhr459 5 months ago
What horrible "Christians". And yet they still profess to be all about love. Actions speak louder than words.
mgunslinger17 6 months ago
i too live in SC but not in St. Matthews. im in Camden. anyways, dude fuck the church. you only need yourself. do you think i need the comfort and help of others with what i believe? and i believe in something that literally everybody disagrees with, unless you are of my kind.
Novigaming 7 months ago 2
Sad!!..... Very Sad!
copman109a 7 months ago
"I remember riding down the road at night crying and counting the trees - which one am I going to hit"
"I remember going to a bridge one night wanting to jump off a bridge"
Wow - thank you for telling your stunning story!
mtkaxtreme 7 months ago
I cant believe churches that claim to follow jesus, who ate with tax collectors and was followed by prostitutes and loved them all with god's love can somehow justify kicking someone out of the church for any reason, never theless for the way they were made. its so heartbreaking
sabianrox1 7 months ago
Screw religion and SCREW "christians" that treat a human being like this. Do they really think God or Jesus would treat another person like that? It makes me sick.
yaoiking16 7 months ago 2
Please don't paint all Christian churches with the same stroke. There are bad ones and good ones. The good ones don't out of their way judge others, and they try to make a positive difference in the world. It's the bad ones that tend to stand out, unfortunately...sort of like certain politicians.
chpoof 7 months ago
@chpoof The 'don't assume that all Christians are bad' excuse doesn't fly if the 'good' Christians sit silently in their pews whispering 'That's not right' while the CINOs rant and rave for all the world to see. There's a REASON why the 'bad' Christians are getting all the press - it's because they're the only ones (with very few exceptions) making themselves heard.
rookzparliament 7 months ago
@rookzparliament You have the media to blame for that, not Christians. I know many affirming Christians who go out of their way to show their support for us, but the media would rather focus on the Jerry Falwells and the Fred Phelps-types. Do you actually think Sarah Palin gets more attention than Hillary Clinton because she's smarter?
chpoof 7 months ago
Christian "love"
choongd 7 months ago
Wow. You are incredibly brave. Best wishes to you.
anodyne8 7 months ago
when the 'people of God' make ya feel that God doesn't want you, it's a hell of a challenge. over the years I have accepted responsibility for my own spiritual wellness and repopulated my life with people who know what real love is about. I trust and hope you will be able to do the same. peace be with you.
woodlandfox2112 7 months ago
A so called family that rejects you in that way, after knowing you for that long was never your family in the first place, which can only mean that they are still faking to be family to those left around them. They would back-stab their own children if it meant bringing them closer to God.
Mr614am 7 months ago
I hope you get out of that community one day, there is lots of love in the world. There are people out there that love you even though you didn't button your collar buttons, I won't report you to the gay fashion police, don't worry. lol
winthrop1009 7 months ago
u r GREAT . THE KEEPER OF THE STARS KOVES YOU & WE are greater than the bigots, phobes & please love urself
jeffreytoddwells 7 months ago
In the long run, no one knows what the divine wants. It's all assumption and opinion. Anything that doesn't promote harmony, love, etc has no right calling itself righteous etc.
Just saying.
GalacticOmega 7 months ago
I kept waiting for the story to take a positive turn. So tragic to be treated that way by people you considered family for the past 21 years. Be assured that there are many people in this world who love you and accept you for exactly who you are.
DeeGreenified 7 months ago
this made me cry ...
moquba 7 months ago
You're better off without those judgmental bigots in your life, Justin. They don't even have an effing clue what God's Love consists of. Hold your head when you see these losers on the street; you have nothing to be ashamed of. It is they that should cast their heads down in shame.
dafttool 7 months ago 4
That is bullshit. How can a church, devoted to good and his message of love and acceptance be so full of hate and denial?
Love is love, people, it doesn't change whether you love a man or a woman. I'm speechless by what they think is christian. This is a despicable representation of what the christian faith is supposed to be. Love, not hate. I'm forever dissappointed in your church.
Persayal 7 months ago
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Stephen Weinberg
trisshandy 7 months ago 4
I STILL love u, Jus-Tina!!!!!
marrumph1 7 months ago
Thanks for sharing your story. I hope that people trapped by churches are inspired by it.
GniduF 7 months ago
I'm trying to figure out what, exactly, is Christian about the way Justin was treated by the church.
Oh, right -- nothing.
Justin - you must know that there are lots of churches that would welcome you.
kc55mo 7 months ago
Why does anyone believe that religion is force for good in this world.
From the Catholic Chruch hiding and abetting pedophiles, to the hate campaigns of the Southern Baptists, and to the secret funding of anti-gay campaigns of the Mormons.
Shame on his bigoted church.
SuperContinuum 7 months ago
@SuperContinuum That's not what this is about. It's about the christian faith being about love and acceptance and Justin's church denying him that. The christian dogma is about loving your next and ... even though I'm a person deeply un-christian and very critical of all things religious, the contuct of Justin's church was exactely the opposite of that. If God exists, he's looking down on them with shame, shaking his head in disgust. This is not what christianity is about.
Persayal 7 months ago
wow - what scumbags........disgusting PIGS! Count yourself lucky that they wont talk to you - tellm to go fuck themselves.
rextrek 7 months ago
Christian churches could not exist if they didn't have someone to persecute. Their message is not love, it is hate. Their message is rooted in their belief that they know better than you do what God wants. The fact is that the more religious a person or a congregation is, the less spiritual they are. Prejudice is a construct of the ego.
Rumake 7 months ago 24
@Rumake - This is the same bullshit they say about us - these sweeping generalizations - 'you queers always, you faggots never. I'm gay and I have been to a number of gay-welcoming churches - not the MCC either..
jhr459 5 months ago
@jhr459 You are right. My comment was a generalization. I know Christians who are good decent people. And I have been associated with gay accepting churches. In that sense my comment is not fair to them. But all "religions" are based on dogma whose basic premise is my dogma is better than your dogman. If a person does not commit the original sin, "I believe, therefore you must believe", then there could well be a spiritual presence separate from theie ego.
Rumake 5 months ago
Justin, thx for telling your story.
Rumake 7 months ago
I think this is SOUTH Carolina...not North Carolina. Sad story but Justin is much better off without the church.
pansyboy88 7 months ago 12
@pansyboy88 it's absolutely SC, thanks.
ImFromDriftwood 7 months ago
@ImFromDriftwood You guys do such a great job with this series. I just tweeted this link to all my friends. I live in North Carolina and this anti-gay stuff has just got to stop, especially from the church. Thank you for covering this!
pansyboy88 7 months ago
@pansyboy88 exactly, he doesnt need it...nobody does
irvykinneas 7 months ago
@pansyboy88 Amen. If anything is going to Hell, it's all these misbegotten so-called Christian churches who are so busy judging and condemning everyone else that they completely miss Jesus' message to all of us; "Love one another as yourself" and "Love me as I have loved you".
avesraggiana 7 months ago
@pansyboy88 it says SC
Novigaming 7 months ago
Church hatefulness. They are evil themselves.
tattooedboy04 7 months ago
Fuck the pastor who did that! Fuck him right in the ear!
MegaCrevice 7 months ago 2