Rather devastating, but the gradual decline of the ideological tyranny of strict (i.e., traditional) Christianity gives the sensation of losing a weight from my chest. My breathing feels cleaner and fuller, and I feel as though I have more control of myself: my arms have a full range of movement and the life-preserving/giving particles of air freely flow into me, at my pace.
The death of the absolute ideal is sad, but the gained freedom, and new-found truth-seeking potential, is exhilarating.
Moral code is not determined by religion. I've seen horrible religious people and nice atheists. And vice versa.
Faith is no longer a reliable way to determine what is real and not real. It may help in the time, but humans need to learn to grow and handle bad times, instead of depending on daddy.
"god is dead" is a concept for believers and atheists alike. in fact, if you read that passage in "the gay science" carefully, it seems like nietzsche is adressing non-believers primarily. what it means is that while taking god out of the picture a lot of the intellectual comfort that secular people continued to cling to goes aways as well.
every time i read this parable of the mad man tears stream from my eyes becuase we all have killed GOD through indifference and wretched self complacency. GOD is no longer a light in the latern of peoples hearts and souls.
@doctorw2 It's very interesting when people of belief find meaning in Nietzsche. I would have thought Kierkegaard would have been easier to digest? I also want to clarify Nietzsche's position- he doesn't mean to imply there ever was a God in the normal sense. I read the parable as the "concept of God" is dead. As Nietzsche said: "God is a thought- it maketh all the straight crooked, and all that standeth reel." Also the parable is aimed at the many who "do not believe in God". Interesting!
@sheert i love nietzsche i understand what he was really trying to say there is no such thing as GOD in the normal sense GOD is thought a conceptual being beyond good and evil is love and what nietzsche is impliying in this parable is that people have killed the love of GOD with religious formalism,indiffrence to social change or justice, and living a life of mediocrity. the mad man is symbolic of someone who is seeking the love of GOD as a living principle in the lives of people.
@doctorw2 You might know about this already, but check out William Blake, particularly the section with the first line "I stood among my valleys of the south". It's one of the best expressions of what you said, IMHO.
@sheert Sorry but I needed some extension to make my point: The Madman pronounces that we should become our own god in replace but he declares the people aren't ready yet. And it's for sure that he equated God with reason. Reason was something Socrates was 'promoting' and he hated it. In Also Sprach Zarathoestra he blames Socrates for being the preliminary factor that causes religion like Christianity.
@doctorw2 I agree with Sheert. You probaly miscomprehend this phrase. First off all God is just a metaphor for metaphysics and reason. By accepting His death we should be able to stop perceiving the world in a logical and metaphysical way and go on living according to our will. So with the death of God comes the situation that there isn't any longer any objective truth where we can hold on to. The death of God is a loss of a mere constraining factor in our lives and creates endless subjectivity.
@filantroop11 no, thats all wrong becuase nietzsche never equated GOD with reason or metaphysics in fact his critique on GOD was the very opposite of that. if the madman wanted people to live according to their will he would not have railed against the masses in the first place becuase they were already doing that.
@doctorw2 Nietzsche was implying in The Gay Sience that indeed the crowd had stopped believing in God but they weren't aware of the consequences. He portrayed them as nihilistic folks who didn't overcome his dead. They took mere notice of his dead but weren't (because of their post-God nihilistic thoughts) creating their own individual substitutional values as existentialists. So in this scene he is taking on metaphysica (God) as well nihilism.
I thought it would be profound. It is not. It is a work of an idiot
kinkokonko 1 week ago
Hello, Arnold, didn't now terminator was into philosophy.
giorgiv18 2 months ago
what?! 8o ? atheism exists?? no way? the earth is not flat????? my word! The West is still here AND in power??? you don't say...
SHITCAKES4U 2 months ago
"Joyful Wisdom"
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"La Gaya Scienza"
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MrNobody47710 3 months ago
The words of a genius, uttered by a fool.
Romansteel13 4 months ago 2
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alwaystheway 4 months ago
@george120050
So, what "values" do you hold?
Would you do something immoral in today's culture to get what you want?
PokeyMeansBusiness 5 months ago
Rather devastating, but the gradual decline of the ideological tyranny of strict (i.e., traditional) Christianity gives the sensation of losing a weight from my chest. My breathing feels cleaner and fuller, and I feel as though I have more control of myself: my arms have a full range of movement and the life-preserving/giving particles of air freely flow into me, at my pace.
The death of the absolute ideal is sad, but the gained freedom, and new-found truth-seeking potential, is exhilarating.
MrNobody47710 6 months ago 6
"Allah is Dead"-arabic version of Nietzsche
Drgamedood 6 months ago
@doctorw2
Moral code is not determined by religion. I've seen horrible religious people and nice atheists. And vice versa.
Faith is no longer a reliable way to determine what is real and not real. It may help in the time, but humans need to learn to grow and handle bad times, instead of depending on daddy.
PokeyMeansBusiness 9 months ago
"god is dead" is a concept for believers and atheists alike. in fact, if you read that passage in "the gay science" carefully, it seems like nietzsche is adressing non-believers primarily. what it means is that while taking god out of the picture a lot of the intellectual comfort that secular people continued to cling to goes aways as well.
fede2 1 year ago
this reading is for children
ruzickaw 1 year ago
@ruzickaw Then was there again spoken unto me without voice: "Thou must yet become a child, and be without shame."
sheert 1 year ago 5
every time i read this parable of the mad man tears stream from my eyes becuase we all have killed GOD through indifference and wretched self complacency. GOD is no longer a light in the latern of peoples hearts and souls.
doctorw2 1 year ago
@doctorw2 It's very interesting when people of belief find meaning in Nietzsche. I would have thought Kierkegaard would have been easier to digest? I also want to clarify Nietzsche's position- he doesn't mean to imply there ever was a God in the normal sense. I read the parable as the "concept of God" is dead. As Nietzsche said: "God is a thought- it maketh all the straight crooked, and all that standeth reel." Also the parable is aimed at the many who "do not believe in God". Interesting!
sheert 1 year ago
@sheert i love nietzsche i understand what he was really trying to say there is no such thing as GOD in the normal sense GOD is thought a conceptual being beyond good and evil is love and what nietzsche is impliying in this parable is that people have killed the love of GOD with religious formalism,indiffrence to social change or justice, and living a life of mediocrity. the mad man is symbolic of someone who is seeking the love of GOD as a living principle in the lives of people.
doctorw2 1 year ago
@doctorw2 You might know about this already, but check out William Blake, particularly the section with the first line "I stood among my valleys of the south". It's one of the best expressions of what you said, IMHO.
sheert 1 year ago
@sheert Sorry but I needed some extension to make my point: The Madman pronounces that we should become our own god in replace but he declares the people aren't ready yet. And it's for sure that he equated God with reason. Reason was something Socrates was 'promoting' and he hated it. In Also Sprach Zarathoestra he blames Socrates for being the preliminary factor that causes religion like Christianity.
filantroop11 1 year ago
@doctorw2 I agree with Sheert. You probaly miscomprehend this phrase. First off all God is just a metaphor for metaphysics and reason. By accepting His death we should be able to stop perceiving the world in a logical and metaphysical way and go on living according to our will. So with the death of God comes the situation that there isn't any longer any objective truth where we can hold on to. The death of God is a loss of a mere constraining factor in our lives and creates endless subjectivity.
filantroop11 1 year ago
@filantroop11 no, thats all wrong becuase nietzsche never equated GOD with reason or metaphysics in fact his critique on GOD was the very opposite of that. if the madman wanted people to live according to their will he would not have railed against the masses in the first place becuase they were already doing that.
doctorw2 1 year ago
@doctorw2 Nietzsche was implying in The Gay Sience that indeed the crowd had stopped believing in God but they weren't aware of the consequences. He portrayed them as nihilistic folks who didn't overcome his dead. They took mere notice of his dead but weren't (because of their post-God nihilistic thoughts) creating their own individual substitutional values as existentialists. So in this scene he is taking on metaphysica (God) as well nihilism.
filantroop11 1 year ago
Fantastic! Thank you.
jymbo1969 1 year ago
Fantastic
jakahn6661 1 year ago