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Yes, Lindros executed a leg sweep then slammed him to the ice but how much crap do you expect the NHL's best player at the time to take? Think that would have happened to Gretzky? Lindros let him get away with one shot, but an additional cheap shot from some bubble player trying to make a name off Lindros? Screw that, he got what he deserved.
@horseshoes100 You're kidding me, right? He got what he deserved? So, let's add this up: slightly high elbow into the shoulder + taking the player you're defending out of the play = slewfoot and Rob DiMaio almost getting Bertuzzi'd. Oh, but wait! He 'took crap' from other players! Why, that magically absolves him from any blame!
@thatguyizzy6 - Good for you, you saw the 1st one - the elbow that Lindros ignored. Did you happen to see the 2nd? The forearm which was an attempt to drive Lindros' head into the glass and, far worse yet, complete the simultaneous can opener (both were well after Lindros' delivered the pass and interference)? Bertuzzi'd? You're kidding me right? The two plays had nothing in common. Again, why should Lindros should take that crap? DiMaio got just what he deserved.
@s8tank I won't deny that DiMaio deserved whatever he got. But Lindros was just plain mean. Dirty shots, elbows, and after a guy went down in a fight most players would back off-not Lindros. Guy's got some anger issues.
Lindros always did get cheap shots on him, but he couldn't keep his cool. He slammed the dude to the ice, could have made him uglier than he already was!
@mrfluffy02 you couldn't have any less respect. there is no "good thing" when someone's career is ended you asshole. barely an elbow? yeah but for at least 5 seconds after Lindros doesn't have the puck he was still all over him. He got what he deserved.
every hockey player knows when you start throwin bows and getting you stick up high your going to get slamed... he found out the hard way. i wish lindy was still playing he would have given the business to crosby and ovechkin
it looks like Dimaio was hurt even before he got slammed. He crashed into Lindros kind of awkwardly. Dimaio was tough. I think most dudes wouldn't have gotten up at all, after that.
other then bobby or there was no jr player as dominate as lindros hands down, if any of u had the privilege to see him play when he was in jr. or even minor hockey you would know where im coming from
Aw the good old days of the NHL I remember being a huge Lightning fan when I moved down to st petersburg fla after living in stl. So the bolts and blues are both my teams but I hate lindros
your a flyers fan so I would watch who your calling a fag you live in that piece of crap state and city you probablly sleep in your parents bed and jackoff to lindros pictures you silly little prick
yep you gotit figured out weall eat cheesteaks and stab people so dont ever bring your fatass here. Huge lightning fan ? You must have been the only one. Joke of an NHL team , always has been always will be. Oh yeh we know hockey here too fruit nuts.
For your information I just watch the lightning still and consider the Blues to be my favorite team but I forgot your from philly you only understand cheesesteak and stabbing
@TrustYourOwnInstinct... I've never heard anyone put it so perfectly. For good or ill, it's how the world actually works. Everything else is foolish self-victimization.
Hockey is a contact and collision sport. Some of its players are good at that aspect of the game. Some of those players are nasty and vicious. Other players are being ignorant if they do not recognize this. Every player who chooses to step onto the ice takes the risk.
Look at all the babies and girls crying for a suspension to Lindros 10 years later. Fuck off you faggots, you're the reason hockey is a pussy sport now.
You're an idiot. Punishing players for performing actions that could kill a person, and making sure these plays stay out of the **GAME** makes hockey a pussy sport?
And I'm not calling for a suspension ten years later: I saw a video up, watched it, and commented that he should have been suspended for these actions. There's a difference.
Yeah it does, Rocket Richard used to swing his stick at peoples heads and Gordie Howe threw the people's elbow around all the time. Now go back to reading your new issue of The Hockey News and pick up a real sport you can appreciate, like gymnastics.
Thats the way hockey was palyed then, you can't get punished for something a long time ago which was in the mind of the players "legal", and greg is right, compared with the 90's this is pussy, but also more technical with players like ovechkin and Crosby...
Hey Gumby... You are really an idiot? If Lindros would have dropped his gloves and pounded him it would have been good traditional hockey. Body slamming his head to the ice is as classless as it gets in any era of hockey. That's why Erica-Linda Ross was punished by all the concussions. No one liked him.
You guys are nuts. DiMaio came in with his elbows high intending to hurt Lindros. Lindros took a lot of abuse because of his size. He had a right to deffend himself and do what was necessary to discourage further attemtps.
Well Jimih64 I understand your reply but if you look closely you see DiMaio started all this. He attacked Lindros first and his elbow even came up and then Lindros decided to punish him. So in this case it was asking for trouble
Dude DiMaio's 3/4 his size. He got his elbow up alright, directly into Lindros' shoulder. OH NOES! Lindros could've given him a serious brain injury doing that.
So because someones asking for trouble you have the right to kill them?
Pretend you're a hockey player. Someone that's 3/4 your size hits you, illegally or not - and in this case, the elbow hit Eric's chest/shoulder, so who cares - and you respond by taking a course of action that could very realistically kill a man?
It's a disgusting play that should have had Lindros suspended for an entire season.
If you're talking about payback, this is no worse than what Todd Bertuzzi did to Steve Moore.
So if you walk on the street and someone who is smaller than you attacks you by pushing you against the wall you won't do anything? Then you are very naive. So in this case Eric should have stayed away from DiMaio? I'm sorry but then you don't known the spirit of the Big E
Elbows happen in hockey all the time. It's a penalty, and the players get on with their lives.
Had this situation played out any differently, DiMaio could VERY realistically be dead.
If a player gets crosschecked, the victim (if they're smart) gets back at them by scoring on the upcoming powerplay; not by taking a course of action that could end the man's life.
I liked Eric's play style too, but he should have been suspended a long time for this.
The attempt to injure was exactly the same. The only two differences are: One player got injured on a play, and it was premeditated.
This 'hit' could have done just as much damage to Dimaio, if not more, extremely easily.
To most logical people, a blind punch to the head, then jumping on his limp body and performing no more aggressive actions: vs grabbing a small guy, and driving him head first into a rock hard surface with as much force as you can muster, is pretty much one and the same.
Look up 'premeditated' in a dictionary before you respond next time. LOL yeah Lindros knew before the game what DiMaio was gonna do and planned this out in revenge. Idiot.
i'm no "lindros fan" by any means but most of the time when he was "dirty" it was to players who deserved it...guys would do little bitchy cheapshot things to lindros all day long just because they couldn't actually stand up to him...so, in a sport like hockey, you poke the bear twice the size of you enough, it's going to come back rip your head off, and i think that's what happened to dimaio here along with a few others.
@jmiller006 You are ABSOLUTELY right! I'm a diehard Flyers fan but I was never too fond of Lindros, he was overrated, a hothead, and ignored a lot of fundamental things (like keeping your head up), but any time he did something like this, it was definitely provoked. Look at DiMaio throwing elbows the entire way into the corner, what is Lindros supposed to do there?
too true. i miss old hockey. not encouraging players to go crazy, but u cant do shit without getting a suspension. unless your malkin and/or a penguin >:(
So.... Dimiao thrwoing the elbow isnt dirty,it kills me that they let idiots who know nothing about hockey post stuff on here.Watch the vid again moron,stop being biased...
yea though dimaio might have had a little elbow in there, lindros slew-footing him and fall with all of his body weight onto his face is a surefire way of injuring someone and is very dirty.
Yeah, DiMaio should have totally thought about Lindros using all of his 250 pounds to piledrive his head into ice after DiMaio was following through on the player he was guarding. Oh well, E just had to learn from Scott Stevens' elbows the hard way that what goes around comes around.
It's like poking a bear.
tampabayscorer 1 week ago
I remember that hit. They showed DiMaio on the bench afterward. He was actually crying. That must have been some wicked pain.
sharktooth1959 3 weeks ago
eric lindros is a fuckin train
ROPESedits11 2 months ago
If you had 8 concussions, you'd be angry
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devpoke513 5 months ago in playlist devpoke513's Favorited Videos
Typical dirty Lindros...guys half his size were his favorite targets. He didn't fare so well against guys Scott Steven's size ha ha...
toekneeeyeoweme 5 months ago
Nice single leg takedown.......right outta the book lol
CanadianMetal88 5 months ago
HULKKK SMASH!!!!!!
Djarcdegree 5 months ago in playlist Hockey
Yes, Lindros executed a leg sweep then slammed him to the ice but how much crap do you expect the NHL's best player at the time to take? Think that would have happened to Gretzky? Lindros let him get away with one shot, but an additional cheap shot from some bubble player trying to make a name off Lindros? Screw that, he got what he deserved.
horseshoes100 5 months ago
@horseshoes100 You're kidding me, right? He got what he deserved? So, let's add this up: slightly high elbow into the shoulder + taking the player you're defending out of the play = slewfoot and Rob DiMaio almost getting Bertuzzi'd. Oh, but wait! He 'took crap' from other players! Why, that magically absolves him from any blame!
thatguyizzy6 4 months ago
@thatguyizzy6 - Good for you, you saw the 1st one - the elbow that Lindros ignored. Did you happen to see the 2nd? The forearm which was an attempt to drive Lindros' head into the glass and, far worse yet, complete the simultaneous can opener (both were well after Lindros' delivered the pass and interference)? Bertuzzi'd? You're kidding me right? The two plays had nothing in common. Again, why should Lindros should take that crap? DiMaio got just what he deserved.
horseshoes100 4 months ago
That would be awesome if he played now with crybaby Crosby. Lindros would give him something to cry about.
beanoforyou 5 months ago
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beanoforyou 5 months ago
I wonder how it felt for big baby Lindros watching the Avs piling up the championships.
jigger77 5 months ago
Just more proof of Lindros being an asshole.
bobschaer 6 months ago
@bobschaer Otherway round pal.
s8tank 5 months ago
@s8tank I won't deny that DiMaio deserved whatever he got. But Lindros was just plain mean. Dirty shots, elbows, and after a guy went down in a fight most players would back off-not Lindros. Guy's got some anger issues.
bobschaer 4 months ago
man that is dirty.
babiesmakinbabies 6 months ago
WATCH LINDROS'S LEFT LEG RIGHT AT THE END...
ForDoverUSA 6 months ago
ouch!
bareknuckles2u 6 months ago
HULK SMASH !!
KeepOnLimpin 6 months ago
@KeepOnLimpin lololollol yes or HULK KILL PUNY HUMAN!!
spedmonkey1 6 months ago
mess with the bull, you get the horns.
devpoke513 6 months ago 3
Lindros always did get cheap shots on him, but he couldn't keep his cool. He slammed the dude to the ice, could have made him uglier than he already was!
chinguforyou 7 months ago
LINDROS THEGREAT!!!!
darkhorseitalia13 7 months ago
Oh boy cue up the Lindros hate, even though he clearly was in the right here for once.
Ex. Blah blah fuck Lindros he wouldn't play for Quebec because he was racist blah blah blah.
UncleSlam81 7 months ago
Haha mess with the bull, get the horns.
FalaMerda 7 months ago
Clear crimminal act. Attempt to murder.
carcaril 8 months ago
@carcaril Shut the fuck up. That guy was stickin his elbows and fists right in Lindros' face. I'd slam him on the ground too.
DrinkSkateSleep 7 months ago
go lightning
sportsrules84 8 months ago
All these Lindros fanboys here....
Barely an elbow there, and Lindros drives his head into the ice. Good thing Karma's a bitch and ended his career.
mrfluffy02 9 months ago
@mrfluffy02 you couldn't have any less respect. there is no "good thing" when someone's career is ended you asshole. barely an elbow? yeah but for at least 5 seconds after Lindros doesn't have the puck he was still all over him. He got what he deserved.
hattrick218 9 months ago
ahaaaaaa
nolla7 9 months ago
i think he deserved that
LetMeGoPlzz 9 months ago
OMFG YES, He takes out his back legs and just smashes him down... Thats what he gets for trying to "hit" someone double his size.
Cheap or not, it was bad ass.
LegendaryGoetz 11 months ago 13
@LegendaryGoetz you re a wicked monster. Can you sleep at night. You re a pure evil.
Bregor7 2 months ago
Once again, beautiful, just beautiful.
watever132 11 months ago
definition of ownage
pucks33 11 months ago 2
ragdalled
prosenator 11 months ago
every hockey player knows when you start throwin bows and getting you stick up high your going to get slamed... he found out the hard way. i wish lindy was still playing he would have given the business to crosby and ovechkin
mydimondeyeslee 1 year ago
He earned that one. Thought E would back down. NOPE. Slammed. NEXT!
robfolcroft 1 year ago
look had the bigger dick
CourtyardPigeon 1 year ago
lindros was the hulk. no question.
07foxmulder 1 year ago
mucked
ballentarue 1 year ago
Takes out his legs then drives him into the ice, Beaty , I love it
ForchoonitittieBlows 1 year ago
HAAHHAHAHAH OWNED
richardboy316 1 year ago
Funny stuff.
kornswe 1 year ago
it looks like Dimaio was hurt even before he got slammed. He crashed into Lindros kind of awkwardly. Dimaio was tough. I think most dudes wouldn't have gotten up at all, after that.
What3verz 1 year ago
Squashing the bug.
TrustYourOwnInstinct 1 year ago 2
dirty hit
malteserule 1 year ago
holy shit. throws him like a rag
phille22 1 year ago
i really like this hit, couse its more like a UFC takedown than a hockey hit :)
JanZZZSSSon 1 year ago 5
Woah, you mess with the bull, and you get the horn...and did DiMaio ever get the fuckin' horn! Ouch!
bareknuckles2u 1 year ago 2
I guess the lesson here is: don't piss off guys who are bigger than you. Unless of course, you want to get fucked up...
DisappearingBoy88 1 year ago
Lindros Greatest all time.
JeffersonRank88 1 year ago
i love how lindros like to beat up on little guys, but got his ass handed to him be stevens and kaspiritius lol
shanis81 1 year ago
@shanis81 ..went both ways..
angusandleigh 1 year ago
that was fucking dirty
BeEazzzy 1 year ago
@BeEazzzy DiMaio was trying to get under the skin of a monster... thats what happens.
vicusvita 1 year ago
@BeEazzzy no that was earned...
angusandleigh 1 year ago
other then bobby or there was no jr player as dominate as lindros hands down, if any of u had the privilege to see him play when he was in jr. or even minor hockey you would know where im coming from
trousersnake7 1 year ago
@trousersnake7 ahh but your wrong. mario lemieux was the best jr player of all time. 282 points in one season i believe one year.. incredible
NYRangersHockey77 1 year ago
0:25 Great Ippon from Eric!
edw700 1 year ago
"Ooo, and someone got hammered over here"... haha, golden commentary.
Philly2002 1 year ago
Was that Gene Hart I was hearing?! Those were the days...
GrandFunker 1 year ago
he deserved it, dimaio went after him twice.
JohnnyBev 1 year ago
@JohnnyBev Kind of his job to go after the skilled players. But in no way was a forearm to the face the right response.
bishoppx 1 year ago
Do it once and you might get a way. Do it twice and its payback time.
Zorobeast 2 years ago
thats what happens when ur an asshole
40DanConnor 2 years ago 46
Eric Lindros= Best hitter EVER
Xtremegamefreak23 2 years ago 5
Scott Stevens=Best hitter EVER.
Din0might7 1 year ago
that was brutal
Jbob35 2 years ago 5
you dont try to hit lindros especially when it wasnt neccessary, he learned his lesson
Celmer77 2 years ago 4
Aw the good old days of the NHL I remember being a huge Lightning fan when I moved down to st petersburg fla after living in stl. So the bolts and blues are both my teams but I hate lindros
leathaldog72 2 years ago
Typical noob has two favorite teams. Hertless fag go watch some nascar.
PhillyPhunk 2 years ago
your a flyers fan so I would watch who your calling a fag you live in that piece of crap state and city you probablly sleep in your parents bed and jackoff to lindros pictures you silly little prick
leathaldog72 2 years ago
yep you gotit figured out weall eat cheesteaks and stab people so dont ever bring your fatass here. Huge lightning fan ? You must have been the only one. Joke of an NHL team , always has been always will be. Oh yeh we know hockey here too fruit nuts.
PhillyPhunk 2 years ago
For your information I just watch the lightning still and consider the Blues to be my favorite team but I forgot your from philly you only understand cheesesteak and stabbing
leathaldog72 2 years ago
blues and lighting????? seriously??? just stop watching hockey.
micfiends 1 year ago
Why dont you stop watching hockey
GO BLUES
leathaldog72 1 year ago
BEAST
dairylandbogurt 2 years ago
Haha, "STOP PUSHING ME!" and bang
Henggucss 2 years ago 2
Damn, Lindros swept Dimaio's legs out from under him and murdered him.
sirmelancholia 2 years ago
lindros what a fucken punk,mr glass jaw
cuff1957 2 years ago
Beautiful.
You poke the bear long enough, he gets pissed, and shows you your place.
TrustYourOwnInstinct 2 years ago 2
@TrustYourOwnInstinct... I've never heard anyone put it so perfectly. For good or ill, it's how the world actually works. Everything else is foolish self-victimization.
ShasoDnarb 2 years ago 3
That was fuckin boss!
airsoftx21 2 years ago 2
Hockey is a contact and collision sport. Some of its players are good at that aspect of the game. Some of those players are nasty and vicious. Other players are being ignorant if they do not recognize this. Every player who chooses to step onto the ice takes the risk.
ShasoDnarb 2 years ago
Great Hit
dgreatjedi 2 years ago
lindros was the man.great hit perfectly clean 100%
dannyh855 2 years ago
Damn, that's a textbook perfect takedown.
leifey 2 years ago
Dimaio deserved it..his elbow was in lindros's face
cowboyzsuk81 2 years ago
Kicks the leg out then body slams him...
Lindros is a classy guy.
GBobtehPwnzor 2 years ago
Look at all the babies and girls crying for a suspension to Lindros 10 years later. Fuck off you faggots, you're the reason hockey is a pussy sport now.
GregGumbel 2 years ago
You're an idiot. Punishing players for performing actions that could kill a person, and making sure these plays stay out of the **GAME** makes hockey a pussy sport?
And I'm not calling for a suspension ten years later: I saw a video up, watched it, and commented that he should have been suspended for these actions. There's a difference.
Now shut up, you ignorant twat.
monox2k 2 years ago
Yeah it does, Rocket Richard used to swing his stick at peoples heads and Gordie Howe threw the people's elbow around all the time. Now go back to reading your new issue of The Hockey News and pick up a real sport you can appreciate, like gymnastics.
GregGumbel 2 years ago
Thats the way hockey was palyed then, you can't get punished for something a long time ago which was in the mind of the players "legal", and greg is right, compared with the 90's this is pussy, but also more technical with players like ovechkin and Crosby...
romanoswestwood 2 years ago
Hey Gumby... You are really an idiot? If Lindros would have dropped his gloves and pounded him it would have been good traditional hockey. Body slamming his head to the ice is as classless as it gets in any era of hockey. That's why Erica-Linda Ross was punished by all the concussions. No one liked him.
mattdif 2 years ago
lol
and they were dozens of strongers player than lindross 250 pounds of hamburgers
khav11 2 years ago
You guys are nuts. DiMaio came in with his elbows high intending to hurt Lindros. Lindros took a lot of abuse because of his size. He had a right to deffend himself and do what was necessary to discourage further attemtps.
Woodsnymph 2 years ago
biggest guy in the league against the smallest, and he has to pull that.. no class.
47tooter 2 years ago
lindros is a fucking bitch
vince4164 2 years ago
It's fucking disgusting how he slams his head into the ground. That's how you give someone a career ending brain injury.
jimih64 2 years ago
Well Jimih64 I understand your reply but if you look closely you see DiMaio started all this. He attacked Lindros first and his elbow even came up and then Lindros decided to punish him. So in this case it was asking for trouble
GalilGade 2 years ago
Dude DiMaio's 3/4 his size. He got his elbow up alright, directly into Lindros' shoulder. OH NOES! Lindros could've given him a serious brain injury doing that.
jimih64 2 years ago
So because someones asking for trouble you have the right to kill them?
Pretend you're a hockey player. Someone that's 3/4 your size hits you, illegally or not - and in this case, the elbow hit Eric's chest/shoulder, so who cares - and you respond by taking a course of action that could very realistically kill a man?
It's a disgusting play that should have had Lindros suspended for an entire season.
If you're talking about payback, this is no worse than what Todd Bertuzzi did to Steve Moore.
monox2k 2 years ago
So if you walk on the street and someone who is smaller than you attacks you by pushing you against the wall you won't do anything? Then you are very naive. So in this case Eric should have stayed away from DiMaio? I'm sorry but then you don't known the spirit of the Big E
GalilGade 2 years ago
lol the spirit of a killer? What spirit..
Elbows happen in hockey all the time. It's a penalty, and the players get on with their lives.
Had this situation played out any differently, DiMaio could VERY realistically be dead.
If a player gets crosschecked, the victim (if they're smart) gets back at them by scoring on the upcoming powerplay; not by taking a course of action that could end the man's life.
I liked Eric's play style too, but he should have been suspended a long time for this.
monox2k 2 years ago
It's certainly no worse. Infact, it's not even close to being as bad.
GregGumbel 2 years ago
The attempt to injure was exactly the same. The only two differences are: One player got injured on a play, and it was premeditated.
This 'hit' could have done just as much damage to Dimaio, if not more, extremely easily.
To most logical people, a blind punch to the head, then jumping on his limp body and performing no more aggressive actions: vs grabbing a small guy, and driving him head first into a rock hard surface with as much force as you can muster, is pretty much one and the same.
monox2k 2 years ago
Look up 'premeditated' in a dictionary before you respond next time. LOL yeah Lindros knew before the game what DiMaio was gonna do and planned this out in revenge. Idiot.
GregGumbel 2 years ago
OHHH!!! OUCH!!!!
Zaphrod88 2 years ago
i'm no "lindros fan" by any means but most of the time when he was "dirty" it was to players who deserved it...guys would do little bitchy cheapshot things to lindros all day long just because they couldn't actually stand up to him...so, in a sport like hockey, you poke the bear twice the size of you enough, it's going to come back rip your head off, and i think that's what happened to dimaio here along with a few others.
jmiller006 2 years ago 83
@jmiller006 this couldn't have been put any better. well said
intoodeep941 1 year ago
@jmiller006 what about dackell?
khav11 1 year ago
@jmiller006 Haha LOL! DiMaio messed with the bull, and did he ever get the fukn horn!
bareknuckles2u 1 year ago
@jmiller006 You are ABSOLUTELY right! I'm a diehard Flyers fan but I was never too fond of Lindros, he was overrated, a hothead, and ignored a lot of fundamental things (like keeping your head up), but any time he did something like this, it was definitely provoked. Look at DiMaio throwing elbows the entire way into the corner, what is Lindros supposed to do there?
cityondown44 1 year ago
@jmiller006 this sort of thing needs to happen to Matt Cooke..
angusandleigh 11 months ago 3
jesus. throws him like a mitten.
phille22 2 years ago
wow do that today and ur gone for 20 games
kieranccc 2 years ago
too true. i miss old hockey. not encouraging players to go crazy, but u cant do shit without getting a suspension. unless your malkin and/or a penguin >:(
Shorty10969 2 years ago 2
was that legal?
notyourhomeboy 2 years ago 3
actually ... yes
solaar1976 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
eric is a piece of shit dirtiest hockey player to play the game.he can't take a hit..fucking coward
hal4sure 3 years ago
So.... Dimiao thrwoing the elbow isnt dirty,it kills me that they let idiots who know nothing about hockey post stuff on here.Watch the vid again moron,stop being biased...
BLSDisciple666 3 years ago 3
call that an elbow? fucking clueless
phille22 2 years ago
yea though dimaio might have had a little elbow in there, lindros slew-footing him and fall with all of his body weight onto his face is a surefire way of injuring someone and is very dirty.
sfp4dvm 2 years ago
mess with the bull you get the horns
jtutag 3 years ago 2
Way to pull a Bertuzzi Big E.
jji1887 3 years ago 2
You're an idiot and so is Damaio
He should have thought about it before he went after Lindros
Cyrax20CDM 3 years ago
Yeah, DiMaio should have totally thought about Lindros using all of his 250 pounds to piledrive his head into ice after DiMaio was following through on the player he was guarding. Oh well, E just had to learn from Scott Stevens' elbows the hard way that what goes around comes around.
jji1887 3 years ago
Atta boy Big E
bigfatguy 3 years ago 4