Fruitfull and multiply? Does this idiot not know we are in 2012! The world is pretty full. She should realize that the bible was written when there werent that many people around. Get a life.
Good for her, she got her self off of welfare and made something of herself. Now she promotes life and self reliance, way to go Star! You are a true role model to your community and to all young women in trouble!
This woman infuriates me. She is using abortion as a form of birth control. She's too stupid to keep her damn legs closed. Biblical my ass. She uses HER interpretation of scripture to fit and excuse her disgusting behavior and choices.
omg this bitch is so hypocritical! she is just like every bitch who follows a religion... they have no way to defend themselves except through referring back to their religion... but how do you know that all of those historical events even took place as they did? have you met god? NO! it's all a cult to degregate society, gain moral and bodily control over people through peer pressure and fear to pit people against each other like this and gain profit... it's historical manipulation
Okay, now that we have the her views on gay marriage out of the way, let's return to a biblical view of the world: where is the man who controls her and why isn't she COVERED?
1:12, that is New Testament. You ignorant BITCH, that's the core of the Jewish faith, starting with the Sh'ma. That's what Jesus is quoting during his life!
@TheJKVW I have a right to respond to you. You have no reason to hate her. She realized the harmful life she was living so she changed. She has the right to her opinion and just because you may disagree for some irrelevant reason, doesn't mean you should hate her. I guarantee you, if the tables were turned you would agree with me, however you seem too ignorant. Problem Solved.
Dont people realize what would happen if there were no gay people? There would be no spring line, all of our clothes would be boring, all of our houses would be plain, our hair and makeup would be a mess, the movie industry would tank, etc etc. It's time to realize the beauty that gay people bring into our boring world.
@spareld My point being that homophobia is a much greater problem in the black community. The irony is the fact that one minority would oppress another.
@metronomic1 oh really? it's a greater problem in the black community compared to what other community? I'm black I don't consider myself homophobic. and I highly doubt that all of 12% of blacks in the country are homophobic as well.and I guess all of 60%+ are not homophobic? and yet it's a law in this country where gay marriage is illegal in most states. I consider myself a very fair person but it's funny to me that you would generalize a whole community because of a minor few
@metronomic1 it's an issue to you because you don't know any black people. so of course it's an issue to you...your life is full of fair tales and people needs to get you people back down to reality
@spareld Actually I know many "black people" gay black people who have told me their stories and how difficult it is to be gay in the black community.
@metronomic1 sad thing but i'm not surprise one bit. Everything has to be put on black people like come on most of you guys have brain but fell to use them. black people didn't create these laws in the first place now blacks are oppressing gays? really? don't you think black people have bigger things to be worried about then gay marriage?
@chef1088 I don't understand how not being able to marry whoever you want equals not being a person. Many people can't marry whoever they want to because what they want does not make a marriage (e.g. polygamists, homosexuals). You devalue human beings by putting such extrinsic worth on them.
In a biblical point of view, when God said "go forth and multiply", there were only "two" persons on the planet...now there's 7 billion,do you think God is still saying "go forth and multiply"?
@caawee75 So you want the Christian Bible to be referred to when we write our laws? Which Christian sect would you like chosen to rule the others so as to make sure those laws fit with their particular belief system?
Too bad someone didn't give Star a copy of Dr. Seuss' "Cat in the Hat" instead of the Bible. Believing in mischievous magic cats and talking pet fish would be a much healthier worldview in comparison.
Unfortunately everybody doesn't subscribe to her "Biblical World View" and never will.
I think religious people are doomed to fail utterly. There may be some things she says that I can agree with but she certainly knows how to undermine even that with a lot of that biblical talk . She doesn't make any sense sometimes...SHE THINKS SHE'S LOGICAL THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@nailboy2 The moment religion was conceived as an explanation for life/existence, it was doomed to fail. You can't stop the human engine of curiosity, our desire to want to know more, and the need for certainty. Still, religion provides a lot (mostly comfort and traditional order) for a lot of people. It isn't going away anytime soon -- and that spark in the mind that generates religious or spiritual ideas may never go away.
this woman is a very sad person and it's shame. Being black myself I find her to be an embarrassment after all the black community have had to go through and are still going through.
@mzkimberley why is she an embarrassment to the black community? isn't she an individual? do all blacks think alike? do all whites put themselves in boxes like blacks tend to do all the freaking time?
I just LOVE when people become "famous" like Barbara & Joy & ALL of a sudden the same GOD that put breath in their body like ALL of us now they want to give that credit to a mans idea who the same GOD puts breath in his body as well but has NO proof we came from a monkey...WHERE HAVE COMMON SENSE GONE TODAY!!!! SMH-HARD! =/
@idaman12345 (WHOEVER YOU ARE)...that's fine you are entitle to your opinion like I am mine & I'm just curious I would LOVE to know how you wake up on your own & how you put breath in your own body & do you have power to not die (like the rest of us will do one day)...just some questions I would LOVE to know...???!!! ;)
She said that we're suppose to be "fruitful and multiply",but what about common sense? If you can't afford 2 kids or 3,so why keep having more,right??
Saved from WHAT? Oh please. RELIGION AND GOD HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON. Religions preach HATRED and SCORN. We of African descent were forced into religions by rape and murder. Read about THAT
"Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around... and PLEASE don't try to shove it down my child's throat."
That's the problem I have with people like Star Parker, when they try to define what a family is because it makes those who don't fit that standard, as less.
If you don't support gay marriage ok not everyone agrees on everything but for you to go and say its wrong and were going to hell. Keep your opinion to yourself and gay MARRIAGE has nothing to do with religion our country was made on the seperation of church and state. If you dont agree with gay marriage dont marry someone who is gay. simple.
"Star Parker". Biblical vs Secular? OK listen up honey. You are not christian by CHOICE ma dear. Our ancestors were forced through persecution and MURDER to CONVERT to that so called religion. You are a very stupid woman who can't think for herself but keeps upchucking LIES she has read. Do yourself a favor and try and grow a brain. If ya can't, then BORROW one
@singlos1 Star can't ''grow a brain''. She has been an Authoritarian follower all her life. When she was younger she did whatever her friends told her to do and got in a lot of trouble. When she was saved she now does whatever her Bible tells her to do. Read ''The Authoritarians'' by Bob Altemeyer. It is online for free.
My favorite? She had her four abortions (and claims to have used abortion as birth control - so I guess she only had sex four times), now she regrets them and doesn't want anyone else to have that choice. Good thing she can't win an election.
Star Parker doesn't believe in evolution because she's a christian. What she's not telling them is that she had four abortions in two years. Oh, she also robbed a liquor store at gunpoint. But she's changed.
So she’s black and a Christian? Funny that. Americans once owned black slaves and used religion to justify it as the Bible condones slavery. If the Bible allows it then it must be okay and Star would have to agree with that –by that logic, slavery should be legalised. Don’t cherry pick you crazy Christians, you either follow all of the Old Testament or none of it. You can’t pick and choose verses that are convenient for your bigotry.
@HufflepuffPrince Not really they mostly used economics for justification, and used the slaves be subjective to ur masters quote, while leaving out the masters love ur slaves as a brother in Christ.
That is actually much more powerful because if they are truly a brother in Christ that would mean loving them more than what you liberal freaks will ever know. So congrats for skewing the facts and brining up something you know nothing about.
@Jamespot24 If they were such good Christians then they would set their slaves free but they were obviously just too lazy to do any work back in the day. Any kind of "holy" book or God that allows slavery is evil. The Bible practically gives instructions on how one should beat their slave properly! That's just sick! An all-loving God would say, "free the slaves!"
@HufflepuffPrince Well its not up to you to decide who is and isn't a Christian, tho many who claim to be are not.
But you clearly didn't get the point of what I was saying. I agree that if they did love their slaves as brothers in Christ they would free them. However "no slavery" wouldn't include indentured servitude or other forms of exploitation. And beating ur slave is no where in the new testament and Christ rebuked that along with stoning sinners, as punishment for sin is for God to do
@Jamespot24 You're right, the guidelines on how one should beat their slave is in the OT. Hmm, a God that allows slavery, murder, genocide, rape et al but kills people for complaining? He even admits that He creates evil and repents of evil but hey, He's not exactly the holiest of beings so what can one do, eh? Whatever floats your boat I guess. If people want to worship a pyschopathic deity that is their business, so as long as they don't shove their idiotic beliefs down my throat.
@HufflepuffPrince "God that allows slavery, murder, genocide, rape" No
"He even admits that He creates evil" No
" If people want to worship a pyschopathic deity that is their business, so as long as they don't shove their idiotic beliefs down my throat." And thats you cause you clearly don't know what ur talking about, ur either a youtube troll or you read too much Dawkins
@Jamespot24 Looks like you'll have to re-read your Bible. It's all there in the Old Testament. "I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil. I the LORD do all thse things." I guess God isn't as benevolent as Christians like to profess.
@HufflepuffPrince Well actually that word evil comes from the Hebrew word ra' which is from a limited vocabulary
The word ra' is used throughout the Old Testament with several meanings. It is used many times to mean something morally evil or hurtful (Job 35:12, 1 Sam 30:22, etc.) but it is also used to mean an unpleasant experience (Gen 47:9 and Prov. 15:10). It is used to describe fierce beasts (Lev. 26:6), and even spoiled or inferior fruit (Jer 24:3).
@HufflepuffPrince Like the adverse conditions that job experienced. God created both piece and ra' or adverse times in his life. Though not once did God tempt Job to sin or unrighteousness. In fact Job remained loyal and continued to worship God. The Devil is the creator of evil in its real sense, because God created a perfect being and that being chose to sin. Just like God creates us and gives us the free will to sin or not.
@Jamespot24 But God only tested Job because Satan "dared" him to, shall we say? God must be very fickle indeed. Besides, God didn't need to create anything as he was perfect and complete, he simply chose to because he wanted to, therefore creating needless suffering and evil. All for his own glory; what a monster he is.
@HufflepuffPrince Suffering comes from sin, since God is the creator of life once we separate ourselves from him through sin we naturally have that life and glory taken away from us. Remember in Eden God told Adam that if he ate from the Tree he would die, but the devil said "you will not die" and tricked him.
Its because people have the free will to choose that it is just, if we didn't have free will then we would be unable to do good as well.
@HufflepuffPrince Therefor the evil wouldn't be sin it would be according to Calvin, "afflictions, wars, and other adverse occurrences."
Why would peace be contrasted with evil if evil was sin. Wouldn't it make more sense to say GOOD and evil, or righteousness and evil. Clearly the contrast is between war and peace or peace and strife, or adverse conditions.
@HufflepuffPrince Why would Jesus attack the men in the temple yet remain peaceful against those who wronged him? Because the merchants in the temple were dishonoring God, using his name in vain (for their own profits). Jesus didn't hesitate, he didn't talk to them softly or ask them to stop, he had the zeal to fight against them.
@Jamespot24 God knew all of the evil that would occur if he created the world beforehand yet he still created it anyway for his own glory. How is that being a good God?
@HufflepuffPrince Well what would you suggest? Making it impossible for people to choose to worship, to do evil? If they were unable to do evil they would then be unable to do good, thats the problem with ur argument. Only when someone has the ability to do wrong can they do good.
@Jamespot24 But God did not even NEED to create anything yet he still chose to, knowing all the suffering that would happen. He must be extremely insecure if he constantly needs to be worshipped and praised, even at the cost of souls burning in hell forever.
@Jamespot24 Of course I do, I love her with all my heart, but my mother will not send me to hell if I ever reject her. Parents love their children unconditionally, God does not. My mother's love for me is infinitely greater than any kind of "love" God would have for me.
@HufflepuffPrince Well ur mother created you like God did. God is different and is a judge, what would you say if a judge freed someone that committed murder. Say someone killed an innocent family, then the police came in they found him in the act, he admitted it, there was a 0% chance it was him. He came before the judge for sentencing and instead of putting him in prison for the rest of his life, or executing him, he just let him go. Would that be a good judge or an evil one?
@Jamespot24 It would be an evil judge but that is precisely what God does. People are "washed clean" of their sins in Jesus Christ, therefore exempting them from responsibility. Christianity claims it can save murderers. What if a killer is saved but so are his victims, that means the victims have to share heaven with their killer. How vile does that sound?
@HufflepuffPrince Jesus pays the price for sin, and real Christians have changed hearts, are no longer who they once were. Therefor the murders are no longer who they once were, they are people who have been totally changed by Christ.
@Jamespot24 Christianity is a cop out; it is for those who do not want to take responsibility for their misdeeds, so they lump them onto a zombie saviour God and then they have eternal life in heaven.
@HufflepuffPrince You're values are a cop out! Having individualistic and subjective morality means that you can pretty much justify any act you commit. Christians ADMIT they have done wrong. They ask for forgiveness, and while they know they do not deserve it Christ pays for it. Real Christians do not obey God to be saved, they obey God because they were saved.
@Jamespot24 My values are not a cop out. My philosophy is; if it harm none, do what you will. If an action harms another person, I'd consider that evil. One does not need God to know that murder, rape etc. is evil.
@HufflepuffPrince Well if no harm is done do as you will makes sense. However you do not have the wisdom to know if your actions will do harm or not. You may think drugs do not harm, but the children of a drug addicted parent suffer. God calls for all in a position of leadership to be sober!
God is not for murder or rape.
Jesus said that anyone who hates his brother has committed murder in his heart, anyone who lusts towards a woman has committed adultery in his heart.
@Jamespot24 He isn't for murder or rape? Is that why he slays millions in the Bible and orders his people to kill those who are sinful or those who offend him? Is that why he allows his people to take young girls and children to be used as sex slaves after wars that he commands them to fight? Yeah, what a great God he is.
@HufflepuffPrince Nah I wouldn't say the sex slaves part. Thats untrue
The wars he commanded the Hebrews to commit defiantly did not kill millions, as less than a million people lived in that region at that time.
However Christianity is no longer bound by the law and is freed by the spirit so your arguments are dumb, and probably gotten from some atheist website
@Jamespot24 So all those people he killed and all those people his followers killed do not matter? You worship a God that commands war, you are the dumb one here. And yes, the sex slaves part is true. Read your "holy" book.
@HufflepuffPrince Well thats selling your daughter to someone for them to MARRY! Not for them to be used as prostitutes, which is the image you are projecting with "sex slaves"
@HufflepuffPrince Honestly if you are married its not rape, so you haven't found any verses where God allows rape! All sexuality outside marriage is sin!
@HufflepuffPrince If the judge said "I'm a loving judge I do not want you to suffer" then released him. What would you think? God judges the wicked and holds them accountable, if he let the wicked into paradise would that be a good God or an evil one?
@HufflepuffPrince If God simply said "ban slavery" as opposed to love everyone as a brother in Christ (including slaves), then it would be justifiable to have indentured servants, or use 50 cent an hour child labor. Instead of giving a rule God gave a principle which supersedes "no slavery". Cause then u could pay someone 50 cents an hour and it technically wouldn't be slavery.
@Fashionista10211 the bible doesn't claim that god created everything but failed. that is not an accurate description of what it says. i used to be an atheist myself but u see the fulfillment of many prophecies in the bible which was written over thousands of years by many different hands. so it's not a book written by a small group all at once to bring u under their control because the bible also tells us to disobey wicked rulership and to stand against it.
i swear to fucking god if one more politician thinks that the earth is only 5000 years old and dont believe in evolution even when they have found the fucking skeletal remains of the apes we descended from, the hominoids etc im gonna move to europe. this is embarrassing!
@Fashionista10211 if we all followed the bible there would be no killings or violence, slavery wouldn't exist, there would be no reason for wars. this is just blind talk by someone who doesn't know the bible evidently. the bible speaks against all those things and insists that we love each other and follow god. where would war and killing come from in that situation. yet atheism has led to things like racism. communism socialism, nazi-ism.
@dawatcha100 .....white supremacy and a whole slew of other things that have led to war and killing and slavery and oppression. let's be real. the reason for wars is not the bible's fault it's the people who in their wickedness chose to misconstrue what the bible says and use it to support what they wanted to do. that is not biblical or godly. most reasons people have to not accept the bible are based on false teachings from people who supposedly represent the truth but don't. read 4 urself
@mermaidsareppl222 he was a christian in word only. the bible doesn't limit free thinking. that's bs and it won't fly in this conversation. i've read it cover to cover and never saw anything against free thinking. the bible speaks against the wicked and those who claim to know and believe in god but commit acts of hatred against the people. show me where the bible limits free thinking not with what u think but from the bible.
@mermaidsareppl222 so do the laws of the land. so it's evident that to have a society that is successful, there must be rules and regulations on how we carry on our daily lives and interpersonal relations right? what's wrong with that? the bible teaches how to respect each other and live in harmony with god and his will for his children. didn't your parents set guidelines for you as a youngster? when we r young, all we know is our wants as we get older we recognize our needs.......
@Fashionista10211 if we all followed the bible word for word there would be no killing no slavery no war. it's the other way around. athiests fear creation being taught in school. why? i am a bible believer and do not fear science. in fact i study theoretical and partical physics as a hobby. however: god is real and is the source of the science. the reason that science only believers have so much trouble understanding the creation is they don't want to accept the creator.
@dawatcha100 So that would mean that they "lived" during the same time according to the bible. I'm not going to even try and debate with you so you really don't need to respond.
@Fashionista10211 From Merriam Webster: Behemoth: : a mighty animal described in Job 40:15–24 as an example of the power of God 2: something of monstrous size, power, or appearance. How is that "no way a description of a dinosaur"? I'm afraid you fail on that one. "the bible isn't taken seriously..."? Over 2 billion Christians in the world take it seriously,
You ask for proof, I have given it, I ask for you proof, you offer nothing but babbling nonsense, and ill informed opinion.
@bluegsp Wow... Another idiot that rejects science and instead pulls all their facts from a fictional book... How the hell can you reject science when their is physical evidence? Behemoth is not another term for dinosaurs. If humans really did exist during the same time as dinosaurs then why is their no human remains during that time period? Why is it that archaeologists can find the bones of neanderthals but can still not find any remains of the humans that "lived" with the dinosaurs?
@Polaris5763 Who is rejecting science? There is nothing I have said that rejects science, I have merely pointing out that science has proven the historic accuracy of the bible. The bible does not say that humans and dinosaurs existed together. And Behemoth is merely a "huge animal" which you would know if you actually did any research. Your pathetic straw man and red herring logical fallacies only expose your intellectual feebleness and in no way present an argument of any kind.
Christians will be the end of you USA
j3parrots 13 hours ago
Fruitfull and multiply? Does this idiot not know we are in 2012! The world is pretty full. She should realize that the bible was written when there werent that many people around. Get a life.
j0287garcia 2 days ago
Good for her, she got her self off of welfare and made something of herself. Now she promotes life and self reliance, way to go Star! You are a true role model to your community and to all young women in trouble!
habitualstudios 3 days ago
This woman infuriates me. She is using abortion as a form of birth control. She's too stupid to keep her damn legs closed. Biblical my ass. She uses HER interpretation of scripture to fit and excuse her disgusting behavior and choices.
thegritch42 4 days ago 2
Barbara walters and that stupid redhaired bitch should be shot.!
Pacethemace9 1 week ago
@Pacethemace9 Let me guess you're homophobic or right wing or religious or all?
Sebizzar 22 hours ago
Smart girl..
Pacethemace9 1 week ago
FUCKING IDIOT
ajusted123 1 week ago
omg this bitch is so hypocritical! she is just like every bitch who follows a religion... they have no way to defend themselves except through referring back to their religion... but how do you know that all of those historical events even took place as they did? have you met god? NO! it's all a cult to degregate society, gain moral and bodily control over people through peer pressure and fear to pit people against each other like this and gain profit... it's historical manipulation
crapolaist 1 week ago
@crapolaist *segregate
crapolaist 1 week ago
Be fruitful and multiply...Just kill the ones you don't want...Shhhhh just don't tell anyone... O_O
disposablefreedom 1 week ago
The woman had four abortions...where was her biblical view then?
anbillie 1 week ago
I'm Christian and that Black woman is seriously misinformed about the Bible
KrunchMunk33y 1 week ago
god she is dumb - she doesnt have birth control because she is supposed to "be friutfull and multiply" - then why did she get the abortions?
shandow15 2 weeks ago
Don't agree with this woman at all. She's has a deluded sense of reality.
hazardous403 2 weeks ago
Okay, now that we have the her views on gay marriage out of the way, let's return to a biblical view of the world: where is the man who controls her and why isn't she COVERED?
CanTake8 2 weeks ago
1:12, that is New Testament. You ignorant BITCH, that's the core of the Jewish faith, starting with the Sh'ma. That's what Jesus is quoting during his life!
Doctor1701Jedi 2 weeks ago
The Bible also says women are not allowed to preach. The ignorant bitch needs to STFU.
zigertube 2 weeks ago
This coming from a woman who had 4 abortions
TheJKVW 2 weeks ago
@TheJKVW so...she realized the life she was living was harmful so she changed. why are people so ignorant?
lovewins49 2 weeks ago
@lovewins49, She is ignorant.
TheJKVW 2 weeks ago
@TheJKVW great argument...
lovewins49 2 weeks ago
@lovewins49, God is about love, if you believe her
Well GOD must hate alot of people.
WHICH IS NOT TRUE.!!
TheJKVW 2 weeks ago
@TheJKVW With all due respect, that makes absolutely no sense.
lovewins49 2 weeks ago
@lovewins49, Then Leave Me Alone.
I hate this woman...!
Problem Solved.
TheJKVW 2 weeks ago
@TheJKVW I have a right to respond to you. You have no reason to hate her. She realized the harmful life she was living so she changed. She has the right to her opinion and just because you may disagree for some irrelevant reason, doesn't mean you should hate her. I guarantee you, if the tables were turned you would agree with me, however you seem too ignorant. Problem Solved.
lovewins49 2 weeks ago
@lovewins49, Are you still here.
TheJKVW 2 weeks ago
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I hate gay they're f**king dafties freaking wad head. All gays should rot in hell because it isn't in bible rules.
thegapshow 2 weeks ago
Dont people realize what would happen if there were no gay people? There would be no spring line, all of our clothes would be boring, all of our houses would be plain, our hair and makeup would be a mess, the movie industry would tank, etc etc. It's time to realize the beauty that gay people bring into our boring world.
metronomic1 3 weeks ago
typical conservative seeking to impose her religious beliefs on others who don't believe the same way....
87jello 3 weeks ago
@87jello No, it's someone who reflects a small minority of conservatives being repeatedly attacked by two harpies.
MrJasonfkg 3 weeks ago
lol she needs to take a fat hit and go to sleep.
laurensflowers 3 weeks ago
SHE'S TOO insupportable
DereckSven2012 3 weeks ago
what is this filthy black thing
iluvsystemofadown 4 weeks ago
Polygamy is federally illegal, same sex marriage is not. Difference.
jfsfrnd 4 weeks ago
faggots and dykes are disgusting
theboss2000000 1 month ago
@theboss2000000 Im not trying to offend you but what makes it so "Disgusting?"
jessica19faith 4 weeks ago
@jessica19faith because its sick and wrong and not natural
theboss2000000 4 weeks ago
@theboss2000000 well thats your opinion
jessica19faith 3 weeks ago
@theboss2000000 You should probably get over it because we arent going anywhere.
metronomic1 3 weeks ago
Typical homophobic black person. How fucking ironic.
metronomic1 1 month ago
@metronomic1 she can't just be a homophobic you have to through the fact that she's black in there too..funny how ironic is that
spareld 3 weeks ago
@spareld My point being that homophobia is a much greater problem in the black community. The irony is the fact that one minority would oppress another.
metronomic1 3 weeks ago
@metronomic1 oh really? it's a greater problem in the black community compared to what other community? I'm black I don't consider myself homophobic. and I highly doubt that all of 12% of blacks in the country are homophobic as well.and I guess all of 60%+ are not homophobic? and yet it's a law in this country where gay marriage is illegal in most states. I consider myself a very fair person but it's funny to me that you would generalize a whole community because of a minor few
spareld 3 weeks ago
@spareld It is an issue. Now run along and stop bothering people.
metronomic1 3 weeks ago
@metronomic1 it's an issue to you because you don't know any black people. so of course it's an issue to you...your life is full of fair tales and people needs to get you people back down to reality
spareld 3 weeks ago
@spareld Actually I know many "black people" gay black people who have told me their stories and how difficult it is to be gay in the black community.
metronomic1 3 weeks ago
@metronomic1 sad thing but i'm not surprise one bit. Everything has to be put on black people like come on most of you guys have brain but fell to use them. black people didn't create these laws in the first place now blacks are oppressing gays? really? don't you think black people have bigger things to be worried about then gay marriage?
spareld 3 weeks ago
@spareld Sure they do. I mean there is the whole hair thing.
metronomic1 3 weeks ago
@metronomic1 huh?? now gays have a hair thing?
spareld 3 weeks ago
In a "biblical world" the cure for leprosy involves a priest spraying blood over you.
TheAnnoyingThing1915 1 month ago
she's an idiot! Gays are people too and should have the right to marry!
chef1088 1 month ago
@chef1088 I don't understand how not being able to marry whoever you want equals not being a person. Many people can't marry whoever they want to because what they want does not make a marriage (e.g. polygamists, homosexuals). You devalue human beings by putting such extrinsic worth on them.
cruckmaster 4 weeks ago
In a biblical point of view, when God said "go forth and multiply", there were only "two" persons on the planet...now there's 7 billion,do you think God is still saying "go forth and multiply"?
puchaks 1 month ago
I didn't vote for Star Parker in 2010 because she's stupid.
veramann 1 month ago
good for you star! they kept firing questions on every hot topic of the day and you didnt hesitate to answer the truth
caawee75 1 month ago
@caawee75 So you want the Christian Bible to be referred to when we write our laws? Which Christian sect would you like chosen to rule the others so as to make sure those laws fit with their particular belief system?
jfsfrnd 1 month ago
who is this crazy lady?
jrwagner7 1 month ago 5
Star: "I don't believe in gay marriage cause its against scriptures"
Barbara: "So you had four abortions"
Star: "Thats right"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
reactor550 1 month ago 3
people seem to forget that adultery is in the top ten - we forgive that so easily, whats worse for marriage?
kubi919 1 month ago
According to her logic we should make adultery and working on the Sabbath illegal too.
poetryiscool 1 month ago
everyone should accept a scientific fact like evolution
RelativelyHostile1 1 month ago
Too bad someone didn't give Star a copy of Dr. Seuss' "Cat in the Hat" instead of the Bible. Believing in mischievous magic cats and talking pet fish would be a much healthier worldview in comparison.
icemachine79 1 month ago 6
THIS LADY IS CRAZy!!
jj7alan 1 month ago
It's sad that such a beautiful woman can be so misguided, limiting her entire life to a contradictory book.
TaigaUSA 1 month ago
Sending women back hundreds of years of development, welcome the ladies of the view!
TVwatcha01 1 month ago
Star makes Elizabeth look smart by comparison... .ELIZABETH IS CONSIDERED A SMART PERSON ON THIS PANEL, THAT IS HOW DUMB STAR IS!!
potterfanatic2 1 month ago
This woman is a moron and an asshole. Just sayin'.......
firegod001 1 month ago
Unfortunately everybody doesn't subscribe to her "Biblical World View" and never will.
I think religious people are doomed to fail utterly. There may be some things she says that I can agree with but she certainly knows how to undermine even that with a lot of that biblical talk . She doesn't make any sense sometimes...SHE THINKS SHE'S LOGICAL THOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nailboy2 1 month ago
@nailboy2 The moment religion was conceived as an explanation for life/existence, it was doomed to fail. You can't stop the human engine of curiosity, our desire to want to know more, and the need for certainty. Still, religion provides a lot (mostly comfort and traditional order) for a lot of people. It isn't going away anytime soon -- and that spark in the mind that generates religious or spiritual ideas may never go away.
phanaiyes 1 month ago
@nailboy2 Yes, exactly. Just because she may go by the bible doesn't mean others do, so how can she use that as a basis for her argument?
Tanzanite800 1 month ago
This lady is a black version of Elizabeth. Regardless both of them are stupid.
brwneyezx3 1 month ago
Shutup star she is a shame to blacks like myself
froflosoul 1 month ago
this woman is a very sad person and it's shame. Being black myself I find her to be an embarrassment after all the black community have had to go through and are still going through.
mzkimberley 1 month ago
@mzkimberley why is she an embarrassment to the black community? isn't she an individual? do all blacks think alike? do all whites put themselves in boxes like blacks tend to do all the freaking time?
spareld 3 weeks ago
religious ppl are so pretentious and annoying.
xtacee1990 1 month ago
cant hear a damn thing
richardmtl 1 month ago
Absolutely repulsive views spouted by a bigoted hypocrite. Nothing to do here!
mountaindew68 1 month ago 17
@mountaindew68 how is she a hypocrite? she woke up and realized the horrible life she was living so she changed it.
lovewins49 2 weeks ago
Star is standing by her belief and i agree with her!
zjayjay31 1 month ago
god! she is fuckin' dumb!
samrat654 1 month ago 14
@samrat654 how?
lovewins49 2 weeks ago
Why is jar jar binks on the view? Someone needs to muzzle that woman. People like her are only hurting themselves.
Dharmabum9287 2 months ago
I just LOVE when people become "famous" like Barbara & Joy & ALL of a sudden the same GOD that put breath in their body like ALL of us now they want to give that credit to a mans idea who the same GOD puts breath in his body as well but has NO proof we came from a monkey...WHERE HAVE COMMON SENSE GONE TODAY!!!! SMH-HARD! =/
KeetWeet 2 months ago
@KeetWeet some fictional creature does not put breaths into people bodies
idaman12345 2 months ago
@idaman12345 (WHOEVER YOU ARE)...that's fine you are entitle to your opinion like I am mine & I'm just curious I would LOVE to know how you wake up on your own & how you put breath in your own body & do you have power to not die (like the rest of us will do one day)...just some questions I would LOVE to know...???!!! ;)
KeetWeet 2 months ago
How the fuck can this woman be against both abortion and birth control?
Honestly,that isn't even logical.
But hey,since when has logic,facts and reasoning ever mattered to these right wing extremists?
Politicallyactive101 2 months ago
She said that we're suppose to be "fruitful and multiply",but what about common sense? If you can't afford 2 kids or 3,so why keep having more,right??
mrgb46 2 months ago
Saved from WHAT? Oh please. RELIGION AND GOD HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON. Religions preach HATRED and SCORN. We of African descent were forced into religions by rape and murder. Read about THAT
singlos1 2 months ago
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marriage = man + woman
TheYouwontgetit 2 months ago
Fr Left Liberal Whites simply can not handle it when a Black women gets off the Democratic Liberal plantation, can they?
bloodyswordisa63 2 months ago
sometimes I just get how such smart people can be so fucking stupid
Wadec 2 months ago
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"Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around... and PLEASE don't try to shove it down my child's throat."
That's the problem I have with people like Star Parker, when they try to define what a family is because it makes those who don't fit that standard, as less.
stefers08 3 months ago
If you don't support gay marriage ok not everyone agrees on everything but for you to go and say its wrong and were going to hell. Keep your opinion to yourself and gay MARRIAGE has nothing to do with religion our country was made on the seperation of church and state. If you dont agree with gay marriage dont marry someone who is gay. simple.
CandyApple410 3 months ago
"Star Parker". Biblical vs Secular? OK listen up honey. You are not christian by CHOICE ma dear. Our ancestors were forced through persecution and MURDER to CONVERT to that so called religion. You are a very stupid woman who can't think for herself but keeps upchucking LIES she has read. Do yourself a favor and try and grow a brain. If ya can't, then BORROW one
singlos1 3 months ago
@singlos1 Yeah, the only reason a black person could ever POSSIBLY be a Christian is because her ancestors were slaves.
It's not like she's capable of making her own choices. If she doesn't agree with you, whitey must have forced her to think that way.
shamgar001 2 months ago
@singlos1 Star can't ''grow a brain''. She has been an Authoritarian follower all her life. When she was younger she did whatever her friends told her to do and got in a lot of trouble. When she was saved she now does whatever her Bible tells her to do. Read ''The Authoritarians'' by Bob Altemeyer. It is online for free.
jfsfrnd 2 months ago
My favorite? She had her four abortions (and claims to have used abortion as birth control - so I guess she only had sex four times), now she regrets them and doesn't want anyone else to have that choice. Good thing she can't win an election.
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Lizernst921 3 months ago
When Liz Hasselbeck is like "OK, this right wing bitch is FUCKING INSANE", then you know that a right wing bitch is fucking insane.
redsoxfan1984 3 months ago 18
@redsoxfan1984 you sound like a hater of conservatives.
prime440 2 months ago
@prime440 I hate people who hate others. I guess you can call me hateist.
redsoxfan1984 2 months ago
Star Parker doesn't believe in evolution because she's a christian. What she's not telling them is that she had four abortions in two years. Oh, she also robbed a liquor store at gunpoint. But she's changed.
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joe12544 3 months ago
So she’s black and a Christian? Funny that. Americans once owned black slaves and used religion to justify it as the Bible condones slavery. If the Bible allows it then it must be okay and Star would have to agree with that –by that logic, slavery should be legalised. Don’t cherry pick you crazy Christians, you either follow all of the Old Testament or none of it. You can’t pick and choose verses that are convenient for your bigotry.
HufflepuffPrince 4 months ago 13
@HufflepuffPrince Not really they mostly used economics for justification, and used the slaves be subjective to ur masters quote, while leaving out the masters love ur slaves as a brother in Christ.
That is actually much more powerful because if they are truly a brother in Christ that would mean loving them more than what you liberal freaks will ever know. So congrats for skewing the facts and brining up something you know nothing about.
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 If they were such good Christians then they would set their slaves free but they were obviously just too lazy to do any work back in the day. Any kind of "holy" book or God that allows slavery is evil. The Bible practically gives instructions on how one should beat their slave properly! That's just sick! An all-loving God would say, "free the slaves!"
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Well its not up to you to decide who is and isn't a Christian, tho many who claim to be are not.
But you clearly didn't get the point of what I was saying. I agree that if they did love their slaves as brothers in Christ they would free them. However "no slavery" wouldn't include indentured servitude or other forms of exploitation. And beating ur slave is no where in the new testament and Christ rebuked that along with stoning sinners, as punishment for sin is for God to do
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 You're right, the guidelines on how one should beat their slave is in the OT. Hmm, a God that allows slavery, murder, genocide, rape et al but kills people for complaining? He even admits that He creates evil and repents of evil but hey, He's not exactly the holiest of beings so what can one do, eh? Whatever floats your boat I guess. If people want to worship a pyschopathic deity that is their business, so as long as they don't shove their idiotic beliefs down my throat.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince "God that allows slavery, murder, genocide, rape" No
"He even admits that He creates evil" No
" If people want to worship a pyschopathic deity that is their business, so as long as they don't shove their idiotic beliefs down my throat." And thats you cause you clearly don't know what ur talking about, ur either a youtube troll or you read too much Dawkins
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 Looks like you'll have to re-read your Bible. It's all there in the Old Testament. "I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil. I the LORD do all thse things." I guess God isn't as benevolent as Christians like to profess.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Well actually that word evil comes from the Hebrew word ra' which is from a limited vocabulary
The word ra' is used throughout the Old Testament with several meanings. It is used many times to mean something morally evil or hurtful (Job 35:12, 1 Sam 30:22, etc.) but it is also used to mean an unpleasant experience (Gen 47:9 and Prov. 15:10). It is used to describe fierce beasts (Lev. 26:6), and even spoiled or inferior fruit (Jer 24:3).
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 A God that causes anything ra' is one that is not worthy of worship, especially one that roasts people over an eternal fire.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Like the adverse conditions that job experienced. God created both piece and ra' or adverse times in his life. Though not once did God tempt Job to sin or unrighteousness. In fact Job remained loyal and continued to worship God. The Devil is the creator of evil in its real sense, because God created a perfect being and that being chose to sin. Just like God creates us and gives us the free will to sin or not.
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 But God only tested Job because Satan "dared" him to, shall we say? God must be very fickle indeed. Besides, God didn't need to create anything as he was perfect and complete, he simply chose to because he wanted to, therefore creating needless suffering and evil. All for his own glory; what a monster he is.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Suffering comes from sin, since God is the creator of life once we separate ourselves from him through sin we naturally have that life and glory taken away from us. Remember in Eden God told Adam that if he ate from the Tree he would die, but the devil said "you will not die" and tricked him.
Its because people have the free will to choose that it is just, if we didn't have free will then we would be unable to do good as well.
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Therefor the evil wouldn't be sin it would be according to Calvin, "afflictions, wars, and other adverse occurrences."
Why would peace be contrasted with evil if evil was sin. Wouldn't it make more sense to say GOOD and evil, or righteousness and evil. Clearly the contrast is between war and peace or peace and strife, or adverse conditions.
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 Why would an all-loving God cause war anyway? Surely such a being would abhor all violence.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Why would Jesus attack the men in the temple yet remain peaceful against those who wronged him? Because the merchants in the temple were dishonoring God, using his name in vain (for their own profits). Jesus didn't hesitate, he didn't talk to them softly or ask them to stop, he had the zeal to fight against them.
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 God knew all of the evil that would occur if he created the world beforehand yet he still created it anyway for his own glory. How is that being a good God?
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Well what would you suggest? Making it impossible for people to choose to worship, to do evil? If they were unable to do evil they would then be unable to do good, thats the problem with ur argument. Only when someone has the ability to do wrong can they do good.
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 But God did not even NEED to create anything yet he still chose to, knowing all the suffering that would happen. He must be extremely insecure if he constantly needs to be worshipped and praised, even at the cost of souls burning in hell forever.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince I'd rather suffer and exist than never exist at all
Jamespot24 2 months ago
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@Jamespot24 Why? If you never existed, you would never know any better.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Do you love your mother for giving you life? Do you treat her nicely and praise her?
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 Of course I do, I love her with all my heart, but my mother will not send me to hell if I ever reject her. Parents love their children unconditionally, God does not. My mother's love for me is infinitely greater than any kind of "love" God would have for me.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Well ur mother created you like God did. God is different and is a judge, what would you say if a judge freed someone that committed murder. Say someone killed an innocent family, then the police came in they found him in the act, he admitted it, there was a 0% chance it was him. He came before the judge for sentencing and instead of putting him in prison for the rest of his life, or executing him, he just let him go. Would that be a good judge or an evil one?
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 It would be an evil judge but that is precisely what God does. People are "washed clean" of their sins in Jesus Christ, therefore exempting them from responsibility. Christianity claims it can save murderers. What if a killer is saved but so are his victims, that means the victims have to share heaven with their killer. How vile does that sound?
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Jesus pays the price for sin, and real Christians have changed hearts, are no longer who they once were. Therefor the murders are no longer who they once were, they are people who have been totally changed by Christ.
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 Christianity is a cop out; it is for those who do not want to take responsibility for their misdeeds, so they lump them onto a zombie saviour God and then they have eternal life in heaven.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince You're values are a cop out! Having individualistic and subjective morality means that you can pretty much justify any act you commit. Christians ADMIT they have done wrong. They ask for forgiveness, and while they know they do not deserve it Christ pays for it. Real Christians do not obey God to be saved, they obey God because they were saved.
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 My values are not a cop out. My philosophy is; if it harm none, do what you will. If an action harms another person, I'd consider that evil. One does not need God to know that murder, rape etc. is evil.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Well if no harm is done do as you will makes sense. However you do not have the wisdom to know if your actions will do harm or not. You may think drugs do not harm, but the children of a drug addicted parent suffer. God calls for all in a position of leadership to be sober!
God is not for murder or rape.
Jesus said that anyone who hates his brother has committed murder in his heart, anyone who lusts towards a woman has committed adultery in his heart.
That sums it up
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 He isn't for murder or rape? Is that why he slays millions in the Bible and orders his people to kill those who are sinful or those who offend him? Is that why he allows his people to take young girls and children to be used as sex slaves after wars that he commands them to fight? Yeah, what a great God he is.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Nah I wouldn't say the sex slaves part. Thats untrue
The wars he commanded the Hebrews to commit defiantly did not kill millions, as less than a million people lived in that region at that time.
However Christianity is no longer bound by the law and is freed by the spirit so your arguments are dumb, and probably gotten from some atheist website
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 So all those people he killed and all those people his followers killed do not matter? You worship a God that commands war, you are the dumb one here. And yes, the sex slaves part is true. Read your "holy" book.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Well thats selling your daughter to someone for them to MARRY! Not for them to be used as prostitutes, which is the image you are projecting with "sex slaves"
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@Jamespot24 Here are some verses for you to sink your teeth into. Judges 21:10-24, Numbers 31:7-18, Deuteronomy 20:10-14.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Well in all those instances like I said, they marry the women. So its not rape bud
Jamespot24 2 months ago
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@Jamespot24 Do you actually think all those poor girls they kidnapped consented? If you do then you're an idiot.
HufflepuffPrince 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince And if they love their wives as Christ loved the church it would be something of beauty.
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Honestly if you are married its not rape, so you haven't found any verses where God allows rape! All sexuality outside marriage is sin!
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince And if that man buys a daughter for her to marry his son, he shall treat her as his daughter. Thats nice! :)
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince Is ur morality absolute? Or is it subjective?
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince If the judge said "I'm a loving judge I do not want you to suffer" then released him. What would you think? God judges the wicked and holds them accountable, if he let the wicked into paradise would that be a good God or an evil one?
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince A 0% chance it wasn't him*
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince And God did free the Hebrew slaves from Egypt :)
Jamespot24 2 months ago
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@HufflepuffPrince And God did free the Hebrew slaves from Egypt :)
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@HufflepuffPrince If God simply said "ban slavery" as opposed to love everyone as a brother in Christ (including slaves), then it would be justifiable to have indentured servants, or use 50 cent an hour child labor. Instead of giving a rule God gave a principle which supersedes "no slavery". Cause then u could pay someone 50 cents an hour and it technically wouldn't be slavery.
No loophole in principles tho :)
Jamespot24 2 months ago
@HufflepuffPrince very well said. So many in the black community need to wake up
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HufflepuffPrince 4 months ago
@Fashionista10211 the bible doesn't claim that god created everything but failed. that is not an accurate description of what it says. i used to be an atheist myself but u see the fulfillment of many prophecies in the bible which was written over thousands of years by many different hands. so it's not a book written by a small group all at once to bring u under their control because the bible also tells us to disobey wicked rulership and to stand against it.
dawatcha100 4 months ago
i swear to fucking god if one more politician thinks that the earth is only 5000 years old and dont believe in evolution even when they have found the fucking skeletal remains of the apes we descended from, the hominoids etc im gonna move to europe. this is embarrassing!
SuperPoliticalNews 4 months ago
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everyfebruary 4 months ago
This woman has obviously made some horrible mistakes.
EmpathyWorks 4 months ago
Star Parker! I'm very happy that she's a Christian Beautiful Black Woman who is against Abortion & Gay Marriages!!!
starlost1957 4 months ago
@starlost1957 you are partially rights,shes christian and a black woman, but shes also a hypocrite
mermaidsareppl222 4 months ago
@Fashionista10211 if we all followed the bible there would be no killings or violence, slavery wouldn't exist, there would be no reason for wars. this is just blind talk by someone who doesn't know the bible evidently. the bible speaks against all those things and insists that we love each other and follow god. where would war and killing come from in that situation. yet atheism has led to things like racism. communism socialism, nazi-ism.
dawatcha100 4 months ago
@dawatcha100 .....white supremacy and a whole slew of other things that have led to war and killing and slavery and oppression. let's be real. the reason for wars is not the bible's fault it's the people who in their wickedness chose to misconstrue what the bible says and use it to support what they wanted to do. that is not biblical or godly. most reasons people have to not accept the bible are based on false teachings from people who supposedly represent the truth but don't. read 4 urself
dawatcha100 4 months ago
@dawatcha100 funny Hitler was a Christian
If we all followed the babble the only thing that would happen would be that there would be no more free thinking
mermaidsareppl222 4 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222 he was a christian in word only. the bible doesn't limit free thinking. that's bs and it won't fly in this conversation. i've read it cover to cover and never saw anything against free thinking. the bible speaks against the wicked and those who claim to know and believe in god but commit acts of hatred against the people. show me where the bible limits free thinking not with what u think but from the bible.
dawatcha100 4 months ago
@dawatcha100 the babble tells you how to think, and how to act to get into "heaven"
limiting what you can do or not
mermaidsareppl222 4 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222 so do the laws of the land. so it's evident that to have a society that is successful, there must be rules and regulations on how we carry on our daily lives and interpersonal relations right? what's wrong with that? the bible teaches how to respect each other and live in harmony with god and his will for his children. didn't your parents set guidelines for you as a youngster? when we r young, all we know is our wants as we get older we recognize our needs.......
dawatcha100 4 months ago
@Fashionista10211 if we all followed the bible word for word there would be no killing no slavery no war. it's the other way around. athiests fear creation being taught in school. why? i am a bible believer and do not fear science. in fact i study theoretical and partical physics as a hobby. however: god is real and is the source of the science. the reason that science only believers have so much trouble understanding the creation is they don't want to accept the creator.
dawatcha100 4 months ago
@dawatcha100 So that would mean that they "lived" during the same time according to the bible. I'm not going to even try and debate with you so you really don't need to respond.
Polaris5763 4 months ago
@Polaris5763 now without being an asshole, tell me where it says that the bohemoth was created on the same day as man.........
dawatcha100 4 months ago
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@Fashionista10211 From Merriam Webster: Behemoth: : a mighty animal described in Job 40:15–24 as an example of the power of God 2: something of monstrous size, power, or appearance. How is that "no way a description of a dinosaur"? I'm afraid you fail on that one. "the bible isn't taken seriously..."? Over 2 billion Christians in the world take it seriously,
You ask for proof, I have given it, I ask for you proof, you offer nothing but babbling nonsense, and ill informed opinion.
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bluegsp 4 months ago
@Fashionista10211 Dinosuars can be found in the book Job where it describes behemoth in chapter 40 and leviathan in chapter 41.
Now where is your proof that the Bible is a "lie" and God doesn't exist.
bluegsp 4 months ago
@bluegsp Wow... Another idiot that rejects science and instead pulls all their facts from a fictional book... How the hell can you reject science when their is physical evidence? Behemoth is not another term for dinosaurs. If humans really did exist during the same time as dinosaurs then why is their no human remains during that time period? Why is it that archaeologists can find the bones of neanderthals but can still not find any remains of the humans that "lived" with the dinosaurs?
Polaris5763 4 months ago
@Polaris5763 Who is rejecting science? There is nothing I have said that rejects science, I have merely pointing out that science has proven the historic accuracy of the bible. The bible does not say that humans and dinosaurs existed together. And Behemoth is merely a "huge animal" which you would know if you actually did any research. Your pathetic straw man and red herring logical fallacies only expose your intellectual feebleness and in no way present an argument of any kind.
bluegsp 4 months ago