If democracy is to be defined by the population of fundamentalists the rest of us better start producing children to assure our future. Phew...sounds like Israel but it's the USA.
Perhaps nobody complained before. But the fact of the matter is that the California Constitution wasn't explicitly homophobic. That affects and bothers more individuals than the couples that couldn't get married. FOR EXAMPLE: straight people, family members, people who want small government intervention, feminists, members and leaders of religious minorities, interfaith couples, agnostics, interracial couples, budhists. Turned LGBT into LGBTSFMPIMLRMIAICBs, and sped marriage in four states.
The LGBT community deserve the same rights as every other citizen! We're here, we're queer, we're proud, so what? We're also humans and citzens, so why deny us our rights? Marriage equality now!
It doesn't really, at least not yet. I'm sure you've already heard the arguments againts your question, and I don't think I have enough space to list them again
@superstubes im a citizen i work i pay my taxes i love 2 females and i wanna marry them both can you change the meaning of marriage for me why should i have to marry one person and both of them are cool with it so why cant we all get married. Love is not wrong right so will the gays march with us as me and my two girlfriends fight to get married in America the land of our birth????
Separate but equal is never equal. Also, the rights of civil unions are not being respected in serious and harmful ways, such as hospitals not allowing partners in and people forced to die alone, because thiere partner is not allowed in.
The degree of ignorance of the breadth of life, I find in some people never fails to blow me away. Of course there are men that would be happy to have a son that was fully himself, including being gay. I certainly would be just as happy if my son were gay, as I would if he were gay. That he exists with such sensitivity and awareness makes me happy all the time. His being gay could never lesson my happiness he is on the planet.
Exactly what is wrong with a 6 year old knowing about gay marriage? My children both knew I was gay and it gave them a deeper understanding of life and helped them grow into the fine humans that they are.
1) basing your argument about going against nature is silly. Stating the "anything that goes against nature is wrong" calls into question everything you already believe in: your shiny new car, your cell phone, urbanization, consumerism. 2) there are animals in nature who exhibit homosexual acts: manatees. 3) only a select # of MAMMALS (not all animals) protect their young. Its just one of many ways species react, not a question of morality. Sometimes straight people have really stupid arguments.
yea yea buddy...your arguments are really weak. look at nature in general it is always one male and one female stop trying to change twist things around you sickos
being gay goes against nature, anything that goes against nature is wrong. if you tried to make a law that said a mother could not protect her child, that would be wrong. it would be wrong because in nature a mother always protects her young. same thing with gays. in nature you do not have females and females together, or males and males together. it is against nature therefore it is wrong
This is a sad day in the struggle for Human Rights, and in particular LGBTI rights, to see my colleagues arrested and handcuffed by police is sad, marriages are civil rights, I pray that God will continue to strengthen all of you and bring peace to our world. Be encouraged in knowing that No weapon formed or fashion against us shall prosper. Rev Jide Macaulay Lagos Nigeria
Im sorry you feel that way but weather you are willing or not, gay marriage will be legal in all states with federal recognition soon. The way it should be.
If civil unions gave the same rights as marriage then that would be okay but it does not. That is why it is not okay. There are no federal rights afforded to gays in civil unions as well as many state rights.
I would be okay with civil unions if they gave all the same rights as marriage but they fall short of that. That is why I am not for civil unions. And we need to get the same equal rights on the federal level as well.
and a man and a woman don't make a marriage. Two people in love can make a marriage. There are so many str8te people in so called marriages that are pitiful. They don't love each other, but it is okay to call them married. They are cheating on each other. But it is still okay to call it a marriage. And the majority of them will end up in divorce so don't say two men can't marry. It only requires two people to be married. I think divorce should be illegal. What do you think of that.
Why is gay marriage an injustice? It is no different than str8te marriage. It is a legal document between two people. Maybe str8te marriage needs to be abolished. It doesn't work anyway. All you do is have tons of babies, get divorced, re-marry to another woman and have more kids leaving them to be raised by one parent. Now tell me that is good. Wow, you people need some education.
And you do not want your son thinking it is okay to fuck a woman. What is the difference, sex is sex. Think what you are saying. What if your son is gay? Do you want him to live a life with out sex because he may be different than you are. Wake up.....................
Who has ever said your church would be forced to hold gay marriages?
By the way, how very Christian of you...all this intolerence.
I've never understood why so many Christians believe their almighty god...the entity that allegedly created the universe as we know it, needs to be defended from something so petty and earthly, as two dudes or two chicks that want to get married.
hughster41 is one of the many people who grew up thinking that homosexuality is wrong. but what if his kid turns out to be gay? then what will he say? parents tend to change their beliefs after they realize that some one who they love is a homosexual. ive seen this soo many times.
Really,hankee13.Your personal attack doesn't sway me.But it does let me know just how decadent and immoral some of you people are.I have a right to my opinion without beind cursed and villivied.Look your words over and think about them.
"ur a bigot and an asshole and it's people like you that that makes america flawed
This is so cool. I hope these kinds of actions increase in size and number all over the country and the world until these rights have the legal recognition they deserve.
It is what you believe in that is so hateful. Flip the coin and take away your marriage and make it illegal for you to marry a man. Would you call that love or hate?
dogdoggie009, someone who suggests a comparison of gay people to African-Americans as insulting speaks from a place of ignorance, fear and/or hatred. I would like to understand if you speak of hatred, ignorance, and/or fear.
gays cannot compare what they are going through to what african americans have gone through from the moment they were put on ships and brought to America. i do no speak of hatred ignorence or fear, why would i be scared of homsexuals?
......and THE LAND OF THE FREE it continues to be,but what a SHAME that people have to fight for such fundamental rights as who they can marry in the year 2009 !!!
Reminds me of the arrests that took place in the African American march in Birmingham.
"It is unfortunate that demonstrations are taking place in Birmingham, but it is even more unfortunate that the city's white power structure left the Negro community with no alternative." (Martin Luther King Jr.)
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Yeah. By a 6 to 1 vote, too. I'm telling you all, just go for Civil Unions and then have them recognized as equal to marriage. Leave the term marriage as it was.
If democracy is to be defined by the population of fundamentalists the rest of us better start producing children to assure our future. Phew...sounds like Israel but it's the USA.
muellerican 2 years ago
Perhaps nobody complained before. But the fact of the matter is that the California Constitution wasn't explicitly homophobic. That affects and bothers more individuals than the couples that couldn't get married. FOR EXAMPLE: straight people, family members, people who want small government intervention, feminists, members and leaders of religious minorities, interfaith couples, agnostics, interracial couples, budhists. Turned LGBT into LGBTSFMPIMLRMIAICBs, and sped marriage in four states.
muellerican 2 years ago
hahahahahahah they mad they mad. lol better luck next time
Acroix707 2 years ago
branc;
my dog already does!!! Ha.
superstubes 2 years ago
TVfor;
Sexuality has nothing to do with believing in God or not .
Neither are gay folk "perverted sack of shits", doesnt the Bible say Love thy neighbour and NOT to judge people??
You obviously dont know any gay people.
superstubes 2 years ago
The LGBT community deserve the same rights as every other citizen! We're here, we're queer, we're proud, so what? We're also humans and citzens, so why deny us our rights? Marriage equality now!
DamnXTheXMan 2 years ago 4
@DamnXTheXMan So pedophiles are ok?
dukeljk 1 year ago
@dukeljk
Huge difference
SolidMike84 1 year ago
It's not fair.Why ban?
Goodjacky123 2 years ago
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Wasn't allowed before and nobody complained then. Shouldn't have made it legal in the first place, now they think it's a right
prestda1 2 years ago
pres;
how does a gay couple getting hitched affect you????????????
superstubes 2 years ago
It doesn't really, at least not yet. I'm sure you've already heard the arguments againts your question, and I don't think I have enough space to list them again
prestda1 2 years ago
pres;
"it doesn't really" - Exactly.
superstubes 2 years ago
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@superstubes im a citizen i work i pay my taxes i love 2 females and i wanna marry them both can you change the meaning of marriage for me why should i have to marry one person and both of them are cool with it so why cant we all get married. Love is not wrong right so will the gays march with us as me and my two girlfriends fight to get married in America the land of our birth????
mcdreamyy1 2 years ago
Separate but equal is never equal. Also, the rights of civil unions are not being respected in serious and harmful ways, such as hospitals not allowing partners in and people forced to die alone, because thiere partner is not allowed in.
nonst8 2 years ago
The degree of ignorance of the breadth of life, I find in some people never fails to blow me away. Of course there are men that would be happy to have a son that was fully himself, including being gay. I certainly would be just as happy if my son were gay, as I would if he were gay. That he exists with such sensitivity and awareness makes me happy all the time. His being gay could never lesson my happiness he is on the planet.
nonst8 2 years ago
Gay men are not the only people that do this. Most straight men to this to women. Why don't you get your mind out of other people's bedrooms.
nonst8 2 years ago
Exactly what is wrong with a 6 year old knowing about gay marriage? My children both knew I was gay and it gave them a deeper understanding of life and helped them grow into the fine humans that they are.
nonst8 2 years ago
1) basing your argument about going against nature is silly. Stating the "anything that goes against nature is wrong" calls into question everything you already believe in: your shiny new car, your cell phone, urbanization, consumerism. 2) there are animals in nature who exhibit homosexual acts: manatees. 3) only a select # of MAMMALS (not all animals) protect their young. Its just one of many ways species react, not a question of morality. Sometimes straight people have really stupid arguments.
italiansalz 2 years ago
yea yea buddy...your arguments are really weak. look at nature in general it is always one male and one female stop trying to change twist things around you sickos
dogdoggie009 2 years ago
dog;
gay folk are NOT "sickos".
superstubes 2 years ago
No, it's just an undesirable genetic defect.
prestda1 2 years ago
presta;
hahahaha!!! Homophobics are the defects.
superstubes 2 years ago
being gay goes against nature, anything that goes against nature is wrong. if you tried to make a law that said a mother could not protect her child, that would be wrong. it would be wrong because in nature a mother always protects her young. same thing with gays. in nature you do not have females and females together, or males and males together. it is against nature therefore it is wrong
dogdoggie009 2 years ago
I am sorry but I must say that your narrow mind is rather boring. If you are smarter than you sound, please try to use your mind, and your heart.
nonst8 2 years ago
your a dumbass...no other words to describe you. i feel SO BAD for you
dogdoggie009 2 years ago
dogdoggie, go eat your own shit
DamnXTheXMan 2 years ago 2
now why would i want to do that...gays are already eating their own shit they have anal sex you know
dogdoggie009 2 years ago
dog;
plenty of heteros have "anal sex" too.
superstubes 2 years ago
This is a sad day in the struggle for Human Rights, and in particular LGBTI rights, to see my colleagues arrested and handcuffed by police is sad, marriages are civil rights, I pray that God will continue to strengthen all of you and bring peace to our world. Be encouraged in knowing that No weapon formed or fashion against us shall prosper. Rev Jide Macaulay Lagos Nigeria
HouseOfRainbow 2 years ago
Im sorry you feel that way but weather you are willing or not, gay marriage will be legal in all states with federal recognition soon. The way it should be.
boybeagle69 2 years ago
I would love for someone to tell me why me, a gay man married to another gay man effects your str8te marriage. Can someone please tell me.......
boybeagle69 2 years ago
If civil unions gave the same rights as marriage then that would be okay but it does not. That is why it is not okay. There are no federal rights afforded to gays in civil unions as well as many state rights.
boybeagle69 2 years ago 2
I would be okay with civil unions if they gave all the same rights as marriage but they fall short of that. That is why I am not for civil unions. And we need to get the same equal rights on the federal level as well.
boybeagle69 2 years ago
They have the same rights at the state level. The law says so. They should get the same rights at the Federal level too.
funnystuff123d3 2 years ago
Separate but equal is never equal.
nonst8 2 years ago
and a man and a woman don't make a marriage. Two people in love can make a marriage. There are so many str8te people in so called marriages that are pitiful. They don't love each other, but it is okay to call them married. They are cheating on each other. But it is still okay to call it a marriage. And the majority of them will end up in divorce so don't say two men can't marry. It only requires two people to be married. I think divorce should be illegal. What do you think of that.
boybeagle69 2 years ago
Why is gay marriage an injustice? It is no different than str8te marriage. It is a legal document between two people. Maybe str8te marriage needs to be abolished. It doesn't work anyway. All you do is have tons of babies, get divorced, re-marry to another woman and have more kids leaving them to be raised by one parent. Now tell me that is good. Wow, you people need some education.
boybeagle69 2 years ago
And you do not want your son thinking it is okay to fuck a woman. What is the difference, sex is sex. Think what you are saying. What if your son is gay? Do you want him to live a life with out sex because he may be different than you are. Wake up.....................
boybeagle69 2 years ago
hugsher that event never happened, please read actual facts instead of listening to lies and propaganda.
mewimi 2 years ago
Who has ever said your church would be forced to hold gay marriages?
By the way, how very Christian of you...all this intolerence.
I've never understood why so many Christians believe their almighty god...the entity that allegedly created the universe as we know it, needs to be defended from something so petty and earthly, as two dudes or two chicks that want to get married.
RUUN the gays are coming! The gays are coming!
Such a sad, frightened coward you are.
brettmineer 2 years ago
hughster41 is one of the many people who grew up thinking that homosexuality is wrong. but what if his kid turns out to be gay? then what will he say? parents tend to change their beliefs after they realize that some one who they love is a homosexual. ive seen this soo many times.
samacedo101 2 years ago
How does this effect you hughster41?
How does someone else wanting to marry someone effect you?
I'm assuming you are not gay unless this is another case of a conservative who 'doth protest too much'.
brettmineer 2 years ago
so its ok to teach ur 6 year old kids that being gay is wrong but you cant teach your 6 year old kids equality?
samacedo101 2 years ago
Really,hankee13.Your personal attack doesn't sway me.But it does let me know just how decadent and immoral some of you people are.I have a right to my opinion without beind cursed and villivied.Look your words over and think about them.
"ur a bigot and an asshole and it's people like you that that makes america flawed
fuck you you asshole christolynn"
I'll leave it at that.
christolynn 2 years ago
This is so cool. I hope these kinds of actions increase in size and number all over the country and the world until these rights have the legal recognition they deserve.
NickFerrin 2 years ago
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boybeagle69 2 years ago
Nothing I said,or any of my opinions come from a position of hate.
I wish I could say the same for most of you People.
christolynn 2 years ago
Typical liberal hippy. If you disagree, you are hateful.
Irekyu 2 years ago
It is what you believe in that is so hateful. Flip the coin and take away your marriage and make it illegal for you to marry a man. Would you call that love or hate?
boybeagle69 2 years ago
Niether love nor hate. Simply a view other than yours. Sorry your eyes are closed
Irekyu 2 years ago
I don't blame the San Fran officers for doing their job, and I also really admire the protesters for sticking it out! ^o-
VanillaSlash 2 years ago
I don't know why, but I feel like watching some buildings burning........
billmurphy1959 2 years ago
My name is hughster.
I am a robot.
I like authority.
I would be among the first to block a street if they stripped me of one of my fundamental rights.
brettmineer 2 years ago
stop comparing gays to african americans, its an insult
dogdoggie009 2 years ago
dogdoggie009, someone who suggests a comparison of gay people to African-Americans as insulting speaks from a place of ignorance, fear and/or hatred. I would like to understand if you speak of hatred, ignorance, and/or fear.
SeanChapin1 2 years ago
gays cannot compare what they are going through to what african americans have gone through from the moment they were put on ships and brought to America. i do no speak of hatred ignorence or fear, why would i be scared of homsexuals?
dogdoggie009 2 years ago
No two groups have identical problems, that does not mean that all the different groups do not deserve recognition of thier human and civil rights.
nonst8 2 years ago
It is not an insult. How would you like it if someone said being compared to an African American was an insult. Hatefulness is never right.
nonst8 2 years ago
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No such thing as "gay marriage".It can only be between a man and his wife.
Proud supporter of prop 8!!!!!!!!!!
christolynn 2 years ago
christolynn, are you proud to hate gay people? I find hatred to be evil - are you evil?
SeanChapin1 2 years ago
Here christolynn gives away the underlying patriarchal view of marriage - who would say that marriage is "between a woman and her husband"?
No, this "traditional marriage" is still very rooted in sexist ideas.
kemokidding 2 years ago
ur a bigot and an asshole and it's people like you that that makes america flawed
fuck you you asshole christolynn
Hankee13 2 years ago
Damn straight christolynn. You're obviously a person of good character.
SET4B2 2 years ago
No you have the duty to protest injustice.
nonst8 2 years ago
Kudos to the brave folk who got arrested standing up for what is right.
BetterABleedingHeart 2 years ago 4
I am very disturbed that this was upheld, but we must keep up the good fight and we will perservere.
Love,
MamaMidler
MamaMidler 2 years ago
to be marriage or not, the gay love is still there and will stay!!!
always we go with a step ahead and two back, it doesn't improve nothing!
yoshynin 2 years ago
......and THE LAND OF THE FREE it continues to be,but what a SHAME that people have to fight for such fundamental rights as who they can marry in the year 2009 !!!
Astor from Berlin, Germany.
TheOwlBerlin 2 years ago 2
I agree with you "theowlberlin" / "Holebis"/"zozo"
superstubes 2 years ago
SAD SAD DECISION TO ARREST PEOPLE WHO PROTEST WITHOUT VIOLENCE after THIS COURT DECISION.
Holebis from Belgium ♥♂♂,♀♀♥
Holebis 2 years ago
Wow, those folks really stood up for whats right, and I applaud them. I would have done the same thing if I was there....
zozotennisfreak 2 years ago
Reminds me of the arrests that took place in the African American march in Birmingham.
"It is unfortunate that demonstrations are taking place in Birmingham, but it is even more unfortunate that the city's white power structure left the Negro community with no alternative." (Martin Luther King Jr.)
vfnvfnvfn 2 years ago 2
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Yeah. By a 6 to 1 vote, too. I'm telling you all, just go for Civil Unions and then have them recognized as equal to marriage. Leave the term marriage as it was.
SET4B2 2 years ago
How about we sit at the back of the bus also?
BetterABleedingHeart 2 years ago
Maybe not. That is where the MUNI bus drivers might beat you up.
nonst8 2 years ago
Not as long as I have breath in my body. I would rather be dead than accept this.
nonst8 2 years ago