Calvinism bastardises the Pure truth. Doctrines of grace are real but the strucure of Calvinism is corrupt it worships the Man rather than Christ.
By calling yourself Calvinists you disown God
I got one scripture for any Calvinist (or any other denomination) Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
ALL DENOMINATIONS HAVE THE WRONG NAME. ALL calling themselves Calvinists break this rule! REPENT!
getherealtruthnow: your passion and sincerity do not automatically make your argument legit or viable. "Calvinism" is simply the name of a collection of doctrines that the Bible teaches. It has nothing to do with "worshipping a man" or disowning God as you asserted.
Calvinism is simply one of the MANY names for these particular doctrines. Others include doctrines of grace, monergism, TULIP, reformed theology, etc
Just because I'm a trinitarian doesn't mean I worship a guy named Trinity
getherealtruthnow SAID: ALL DENOMINATIONS HAVE THE WRONG NAME.
I would like to know if you even know why denominations call themselves by denominational names???
Why does a Presbyterian call himself so. Why does a Baptist call himself so? Why does a Lutheran call himself so? Why does a Methodest call himself so?
And just so you know,,, of the 4 denominations I listed , only one is predominantly Calvinist.
You know what guys. This will go on forever. We will probably always vehemently disagree about some things.
But we are Christians. Do we not worship the same God? I have gone off in my own tagine. And for that I apologize. I'm sorry Young, yet nutty Calvinist. I unblocked you.
And I don't wish Hell on anyone. But that is where Driscoll is going to end up if he does stop his cursing and his blasphemy by playing Christian. Driscoll is no Christian. Even devils believe.
Yeah. But, Just recently. Because Washer and Kielar, Holmberg have gone hyper Calvinist. They preaching a false Word. I don't like Calvinsm at all. But I do like many writings by John Calvinist. Although I favor toward Luther. He was Fighter. oith were very wrong at times. It caused division and got people killed. That is why I don't follow men. I follow Christ. All this idolozing of Paul Washer. No one can be saved with this Guy. But Driscoll's cursing over looked and not denounced. Nutty!
For a start, I just took TWO videos to demonstrate that not all Calvinists are in favour of Driscoll. For the record, I do not idolize Calvin, Washer, Kielar and co. - I feel an affinity with their message because it is Biblical.
Why do you favour Luther when he cussed just like Driscoll? Aren't they both in hell for being rabid cussers? And as I went to great pains to show - I AM NOT A DRISCOLL SUPPORTER...
But you've said nothing to denounce him either. But you sit in judgement of "modern evengelism?" How can a "Calvinst" likePiper even affrim Driscoll? They is nothing but blasfeme, illreverence and cursing."With out holiness no one will see the Lord."
Why no Snoop Dog too? He can join the Calvinist club. No regeneration either. These are guys that are false modern evangelist. But the real is treated false. This is a Anti Christ spirit in you guys.
I did! I clearly said I do not support his vulgarity in the video. You really want some angry reaction so you can blackball more Calvinists. Well you're not going to get one.
Arguing for those who like Driscoll, Driscoll at least names the name of Jesus - Snoop does not. Both are as bad as each other though.
No I do not.. But Calvinsm is Anti Christ. It is false and is headed into false religion. I speak out when I see Clavinst condeming everyone. I heard Paul Washer say if someone asked them "can I be saved?" He he'll say. "I don't know. Come back? What??
No , It's repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Chrsit. Now is day of Salvtion. To send them away is anti Bibical. And faith without deeds. He puts himself in place of God. This is Anti Christ
He's going to roast in hell like a chicken on rotiserrie. There I have now made painfully obvious I am against him.
I have that MP3 as ever, you are being selective with what you heard. Listen to the rest of the story when the person was truly converted. Christ said preach the Gospel, not make convert numbers...
Oh we had that conversation but she is insistent she is, hence the video series. She was actually highly insistent of the fact that Calvinism is opening the door to the Emergent Church. Never mind, most of the work against the Emergent Church is by the Reformed...
But, I wondering why you Calvinist will not rebuke him and say he is niether a Calvinist or a Christian? Driscoll faults his sin.
Are good Christian men so wimpy and caught in their seudo intellectualism predestination, and election. That they have no descermnet. An seem how having a wicked false brother like Driscoll in the Church Where is Watchmen?
I even said prove me wrong.Say they are a Calvinist. And they are included? Calvin would role in his grave.
You really need to learn how to spell. It's PSEUDO-INTELLECTUALISM. What about the Calvinists who DON'T agree with Driscoll? Funny you choose to ignore them.
Yeah it's a great book! I'm having to block and delete some biblically ignorant folks who are standing up for TBN, can you believe that? See my last video
I find it very interesting that all the Calvinist position has been refuted and yet you guys still hold on to it. This reminds me of when I debate the J.W.'s
Did not we already go through this, we ended in a nursery rhyme did we not ? ( Why did the chicken cross the road ) You will not accept the bible you would rather philosophy On chooses darkness and one choose light, as you agreed, which affirms synergism. ( for those who would like to see that debate check out my feature video )
We never finished the "debate". As one can go on your video and see two times you said, "Are you finished with the discussion? You just disapeared." and "Are we ever going to finish the debate ?" So... do you want to back down on these two comments now or actually address the question I raise? If you'd rather just ignore the question here, we'll just chalk it up to your bluff. That's fine with me.
That is right you blocked me and would not respond anymore . You already affirmed my response was true, one chooses darkness over light because he does not want his deeds exposed. Therefore address my text. If the bible is not sufficient for you then maybe you should not hold to Calvinism ( sola scripture )
Dude, if it weren't that Lane is my buddy, I'd shut you down, but he seems familiar with you so I won't. I can DESTROY the position that faith precedes being born again - I used to teach it in evangelism classes. I am simply being more mature than you and saving it for another time. Now CAN IT or I will make you can it. Thanks for your understanding...
I have no problem debating you both. We can start by you first addressing the text that I posted lets start with John 5:24.
Your pride is detestable :
"I can DESTROY the position that faith precedes being born again - I used to teach it in evangelism classes. I am simply being more mature than you and saving it for another time"
Dude, as you can see, I have just started a series. After that, Lord willing I buy my webcam, I will begin a series on Just What is Calvinism (you can watch the promo on my channel). Save your arguments for there. Thanks...again.
Listen, buddy, you want to make a baseless accusation about me blocking you from commenting on your own video then run away when I ask you to defend it. If that's the confidence you have behind your own assertions, I'm not going to waste my time with this.
"That is right you blocked me and would not respond anymore ." ... "( for those who would like to see that debate check out my feature video )"
- FORCHRST in this comment section
From your own words, FORCHRIST, it's obvious that you accused me 1) of blocking you 2) on your featured video. Straw man? I guess it depends on how you're defining "straw man" on Saturdays. :)
Col 2:8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Give me strength. So we can kill discussion until a later date, here is my view of John 5:24 -
It's talking about regeneration. No debate there. It's saying that those who hear the life-giving voice of Christ - through the preaching of the Word - will live.
Now I've answered you, will you hold your peace until the appropriate time...
You've never been blocked from my page. I just double checked, and you're not blocked now. However, all that would be irrelevant to a video that is posted ON YOUR OWN PAGE. In other words, even if I had blocked you on my page, that doesn't inhibit what you do on your own.
Let's get away from this red herring for the second. I asked you, "FORCHRST, if faith precedes regeneration, why did you believe and your neighbor down the street didn't?"
Your reply was, "one chooses darkness over light because he does not want his deeds exposed."
So now I ask you, "Why does one choose darkness over light?" because with your answer, you still haven't addressed the issue of *WHY*.
Why does one put on a seat belt and the other doesn't. People know it will save their life. Yet they CHOOSE not to put on their seat belt. As was taught in the gospel of John they do not want their deeds exposed.( THEIR CHOICE ) Your answer is right their in the bible. SOLA SCRIPTURE
Why do they choose to put on their seat belt and another person doesn't? Why does one person know it will save their life and another doesn't? You still haven't even come close to answering the question I raised of *WHY*.
(Doug, the fun part is watching this guy dance. :) )
Why wont you address the bible you try to deceive people with philosophy. If you do not except the bible and what it says why dont you give me some philosophy and tell me why. Even though this goes against sola scripture
And with that, folks, I'm through with the waltz today. Sad. This guy accuses other people of being synonymous to cults, yet his method of apologetics is pretty much the same that I get from JW's, Mormons, and the like. Sad, indeed. If you ever have the courage to answer the question of *WHY* someone comes to the LIGHT, FORCHRST, I'll be happy to listen. Just let me know.
Has anyone notice that Lane will not address the bible ? Especially John 5:24 I do thank you youngcalvinist for at least responding biblically and addressing the text and I will respect your wish and wait to address you at another point just let me know when you do a video on the subject.
Well, that would be great if that's the question I asked. BUT I asked you specifically *WHY one comes to the LIGHT*. Can you answer that one specifically, please?
Oh, wait... so you are going to interact with the question? So your answer as to *WHY* someone comes to the light is, "The love of God."? Please let me know if that's your position because I don't want to misrepresent it.
There multiple answers to that question, that is not the only answer.
Jn 5:24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Here is another answer to that question any reason you still have not addressed it .
I don't usually do this, but I'm going to address your red herring, FORCHRST, and after I do, I hope you'll understand why I haven't seen the need to do so yet.
The verse says, "He that heareth (Jesus') word, and believeth on him that sent (Jesus), hath everlasting life,"
*WHY* does one hear Jesus' word and believe on God? Essentially, you're back to the same question (which along side it being a red herring is the reason I haven't addressed it yet).
Now, let's say that you say, "Well, they that hear will believe!" Ok. Well, how could you exegete this verse:
"What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, as it is written, "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day." (Rom 11:7-8)
First, notice who the Bible says obtained it. It was God's elect or God's chosen. Then see who didn't obtain it. It was those who were hardened. Well, who hardened those people? The Bible tells us that God gave them... "EARS THAT WOULD NOT HEAR." Well, isn't it pretty obvious that God's chosen are the one's who obtain it, the rest don't, and the reason they don't hear is because God doesn't give them the ability to hear (one can't hear without an "ear", right?) :)
Ro 11:2-5God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he appeals to God against Israel? Lord, they have killed your prophets, they have demolished your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life. But what is Gods reply to him? I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal. So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace.
God foreknew his people the ones that did not bow their knee or had faith.
'But what is Gods reply to him? I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal."
The rest were hardened why because God knew they would not believe, out of God hardening them they could not believe but he hardened them because of lack of faith .
Ro 11:6-8But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, as it is written, God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.
Like I said it is the goodness of God that leads man to repent. He reveals this to us through his word.
Ro 10:16-17But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
While I am on Romans 10 But what does it say? The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.
Dude, shut it. Either you can the red herrings and bravado comments or you'll be blocked (and the first person to be blocked by me at that). I'm warning you...
Please forgive me, seeing that you feel that way.The Lord has put a burden on my heart for those deceived by Calvinism. Dont get me wrong there is alot of truth in Calvinism and I encourage people in the study of it. However the logical conclusions of the doctrines lead the fatalism and universalism
Maybe the god of this world has told you to debate against calvinism, but not the God of the bible. Universalism can only stem from someone who believe in an unlimited atonement. Not a limited atonement. Secondly the bible teaches fatalism, the deffinition of fatalism is humans are unable to change what has been planed. The Bible says God works everything after the council of his will. It doesnt say he works everything after the council of mans will. Who caused the tsunami that killed thousands?
Not true universalism stems from irresistible grace and John 12:32 . It is the logical conclusion to your theology.
Also here is a def. of fatalism
Fatalism
In general the term fatalism denotes the idea that whatever happens is determined and caused by an irresistible, supernatural power that leaves no room for human decision. What is ordained for individuals cannot be foreseen in advance.
Do you understand what a literary unit is.?In the clause of John 12:32 please show me where there is an article that say's greeks. It is not there. Pas without an article means what ?
CONTEXT..... Who is jesus talking to, where is he at, all these things matter in interpreting text. With the situation seeing as Jesus RARELY went to greeks, he even specifically told his disciples NOT to go to them, it would make sense for him to let them know that greeks would be drawn in also, we see this in acts.PAS does not always mean all.You did not answer my questions on it on your page. Mark 1:5 Did ALL judea and Jerusalem get baptized pharasee's and all!?!? ALL DOESNT ALWAYS MEAN ALL.
there are exeptions and there are rules what is the rule when pas does not have an article. by the way there is an article in mark 1:5 so it does not need to be addresed
No God the father did not give Jesus all humans to be saved. Jesus even said that. HENCE HE SAID "I DO NOT PRAY FOR THE WORLD BUT THOSE YOU HAVE GIVEN ME" I see that you do not believe the attonement was accepted by the father in the most holy place. STUDY hebrews man. If he died for all then all would be saved or else he died for people in hell. He substituted the wrath of God but it was not enough, the human had to have done something Good. He had to have Good faith. A Good work.
I do not hold to calvin's teachings anyways I hold to what the bible says. I have never even read a book by Calvin. Jesus put away sin in hebrews and if he PUT AWAY sin and abolished the law there would be no transgression for anyone in the heavenlies. Hence universalism. How were they supposed to uncircumcised theyre heart? The whole sermon is talking about the past of Israel so that was the sum of the sermon. They couldnt have uncircumsized theyre heart God would have had to intervene.
Well the only reason I really know tulip Is the fact that I heard it preached AGAINST. Why would they himm me up? Its not about Calvin. Most Calvinists will say they do not agree with him on everything.
lol yes I agree most calvinist dont agree with calvin and that is on the majority of his stuff. Tulip came after John Calvin died along with limited atonement
And he has employed the universal term whosoever, both to invite all indiscriminately to partake of life, and to cut off every excuse from unbelievers. cont...
Such is also the import of the term World, which he formerly used; for though nothing will be found in the world that is worthy of the favor of God, yet he shows himself to be reconciled to the whole world, when he invites all men without exception to the faith of Christ, which is nothing else than an entrance into life.
As seen here either you are misunderstanding calvins on atonement or he contradicts himself
Dont get me wrong I have studied others and history and whatnot but never really Calvins writings because I wanted to have my view WITHOUT Calvin so I wouldnt have that throwed up in my face...Understand? I mean look at danny girl she constantly refers to calvin to refute calvinism, and its not even about him, paul taught everything he did and before Paul ,Jesus Did.I must ask you this are you Ordained to eternal life because you believe or do you believe b/c of Ordination.
I have a lot of repect for calvin. He was a brilliant writer. In his commentary on 1 John 5:1 he said faith precedes regeneration so where does that leave the doctrines of grace ?
Well where does it say in the bible that God cant give you a gift before regeneration. Calvin did believe that faith was a gift in his commentary on Philipians 1:29 I do know that because I looked it up.
Even John MacAruthur says Look I dont know what order things happend Are you Regenerate, then believe, then repent or any other order I just know theyre all gifts. Or something along those lines I got it on a CD
Then I guess Macarthur doesnt hold to the Tulip because tulip spells out the order. I have also heard James white say the same thing as macarthur. But they are in direct contradiction with the doctrines of grace. They wont hold to an order because they know they cant hold their position but again how can they truly teach the doctrines of grace >
The bible does say God works everything according to HIS will. Not according to the creatures will. You can change your fate if God sends a lighting bolt into your dome? I think not Forchrist. In the same way if someone who didnt excepte the gospel. Who created them and ended therye life? You dont respect God as an eternal omnipotent soverign King. You think the creature is and God just cannot control him.
You stopped posting and the attempts I made of getting you to debate were were failed. I will check again to see if I can post in your comment box now. Regardless why dont you address John 5:24 for me. I am just looking for some exegesis showing how faith does not precede regeneration in that text. That is all I am asking
Let's ignore the fact that you changed your story from "me blocking you on your own video" to "(I) stopped posting and the attempts (you) made of getting (me) to debate were failed" for now. Please address *WHY* one chooses light over darkness. If you decide not to address that, I believe it will be obvious to anyone why I stopped commenting on your video a couple weeks ago.
If you're trying to post on my channel profile page, you won't be able to. That section is reserved for my friends. You're still more than welcomed to post on any video on my channel just as you've always been, though.
Oh that's why I could not post. Thanks I apologize I thought you blocked me. By the way do you plan on answering my question of were people regenerated in the old testament ?
No they were not regenerate like in the new testatment, it was different. They had visual acts of God done for them, and audibly heard God. Hence they were not asked to BELIEVE the foolishness of the Gospel. Which no one can without an inward call. God was still responsible for theyre coming to him in the old testament by the mighty acts that he did and,as abraham and cain,audibly talking to them,or else they would have been just like the gentiles and those before the flood. Wicked constantly.
Slice is far better than you. Sad it takes a Deborah because you guys are hiding fields. Go read your 400 year old Calvinist. books. I'll stand word of God which endures forever.
"I used watch illbehonest. But I was sick of their condeming."
simplydannygirl (2 minutes ago):
"Lanech. You guys are phony or foolish. Slice is far better than you."
danny, I never watched your videos seriously. If I wanted a good dose of hypocrisy, there are plenty of places in the world where I can get that ALONG WITH a coherent thought. I haven't been able to find either on your channel except when you discuss motors.
No they were not regenerate like in the new testatment, it was different. They had visual acts of God done for them, and audibly heard God. Hence they were not asked to BELIEVE the foolishness of the Gospel. Which no one can without an inward call. God was still responsible for theyre coming to him in the old testament by the mighty acts that he did and,as abraham and cain,audibly talking to them,or else they would have been just like the gentiles and those before the flood. Wicked constantly.
FORCHRIST, your assumption is wrong. Just plain wrong.Your teachings are wrong.I have watched what I could stomach.Historically proven in the church is the refutation of what you believe> Salvation is of yourself,for God could not have saved you without your work of faith.You are the historic heretic, not us.You would have walked away from Jesus at john 6:66 too if you were there, and,do what you do now, serve another Jesus. John 6:45- You must hear and learn from the father BEFORE you can come.
LOL apart from Augustine almost every major church father held to synergism. Why don't you take the time and read the church fathers . Start with Thomas Aquinas
Great Job! So many want to take the words of one and use them to smear the whole movement. God's truth must stand on its adherence to sound biblical principles and nothing else. God bless you!
Why did beutifultulip close his account while me and edwardpf123 was debating him on his latest video ? You seemed to be good friends with him maybe you can tell me
Danny asks where's people like Ken Silva who need to be writing against stuff like Driscoll does. She's obviously WAY out of the loop to think that Silva doesn't write against that stuff. :)
Man you're stealing my thunder LOL. I have heaps of stuff from Pastor Ken for the next video. Out of the loop? She was never in it, which is sad, since she is very passionate.
If you look at her description, too, you'll see her ask where I am speaking out against this stuff with "expository preaching". She doesn't do her research very well, or she would have seen the Sound Doctrine, Sound Words video posted about a week before she made her's. :)
ARE YOU JOKING DANNY. LANE HAS A SECTION ON HIS PAGE ABOUT HOW DRISCOLL HAS "POISONIOUS" THINGS ON HIS PAGE! YOU ARE AN IRREVERANT PERSON WHO TELLS HORRIBLE LIES ABOUT PEOPLE AND MISREPRESENTS MEN OF GOD. I have been sending you PMs about the video of Phil Johnson at the Sheperds Conference at John Macaurthurs church and you Just ignore the facts. YOUR ARE ARE A LIAR AND NEED TO REPENT OF YOUR WITCHCRAFT. AND DONT PLAY THE "OOOOO HES YELLING AND DOESNT LOVE." CARD. JESUS YELLED AND WOULD AT YOU!
Also on the same note ( faith precedes regeneration ) John 1:12-13 makes it clear
Jn 1:12-13But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
We are born out of the will of God. And the will of God is to draw all men .
Jn 12:32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Faith is active not passive. We must believe , God demands a relationship. Without faith it is impossible to please God. Therefore if you believe you were passive in being regenerate / (faith did not precede regeneration ) then I suggest one would check his salvation. Because without and active faith one cannot be regenerated.
Calvinism is the topic, I find it meaningless to address your video because that is not the underlying problem your doctrine is. Why don't you ask your buddy's why they didn't respond.
Tit 1:9Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Then don't comment, dude. Unless it's about Mark Driscoll or Calvinists as PEOPLE, not interested for this particular video. Take your hobby horse elsewhere until I address Calvinism as a doctrine (which I will in this series)
Jn 5:24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
The way the Calvinist teach irresistible grace also forces them to modify Total depravity seeing as man had the ability to believe prior to regeneration
Calvinism bastardises the Pure truth. Doctrines of grace are real but the strucure of Calvinism is corrupt it worships the Man rather than Christ.
By calling yourself Calvinists you disown God
I got one scripture for any Calvinist (or any other denomination) Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
ALL DENOMINATIONS HAVE THE WRONG NAME. ALL calling themselves Calvinists break this rule! REPENT!
getherealtruthnow 2 years ago
getherealtruthnow: your passion and sincerity do not automatically make your argument legit or viable. "Calvinism" is simply the name of a collection of doctrines that the Bible teaches. It has nothing to do with "worshipping a man" or disowning God as you asserted.
Calvinism is simply one of the MANY names for these particular doctrines. Others include doctrines of grace, monergism, TULIP, reformed theology, etc
Just because I'm a trinitarian doesn't mean I worship a guy named Trinity
skalapunk 2 years ago
getherealtruthnow SAID: ALL DENOMINATIONS HAVE THE WRONG NAME.
I would like to know if you even know why denominations call themselves by denominational names???
Why does a Presbyterian call himself so. Why does a Baptist call himself so? Why does a Lutheran call himself so? Why does a Methodest call himself so?
And just so you know,,, of the 4 denominations I listed , only one is predominantly Calvinist.
Are you anti-Calvinist or anti-denominational?
How2BecomeAChristian 2 years ago
You know what guys. This will go on forever. We will probably always vehemently disagree about some things.
But we are Christians. Do we not worship the same God? I have gone off in my own tagine. And for that I apologize. I'm sorry Young, yet nutty Calvinist. I unblocked you.
And I don't wish Hell on anyone. But that is where Driscoll is going to end up if he does stop his cursing and his blasphemy by playing Christian. Driscoll is no Christian. Even devils believe.
God bless
Danny
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
Hate Rap by the way.
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
But I don't. If it offends you, turn the sound down.
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Oh but I did turn the sound down. Thank you very much!
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
Off-topic comment and for that, consider yourself blocked...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
I was wondering if dannygirl had even researched at all when she made that video. Im glad you made this b/c I was thinking about making one.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
Clearly not. She has this ax to grind against Calvinism and will stop at nothing short of sinning to press the issue. Sad really...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Yeah. But, Just recently. Because Washer and Kielar, Holmberg have gone hyper Calvinist. They preaching a false Word. I don't like Calvinsm at all. But I do like many writings by John Calvinist. Although I favor toward Luther. He was Fighter. oith were very wrong at times. It caused division and got people killed. That is why I don't follow men. I follow Christ. All this idolozing of Paul Washer. No one can be saved with this Guy. But Driscoll's cursing over looked and not denounced. Nutty!
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
For a start, I just took TWO videos to demonstrate that not all Calvinists are in favour of Driscoll. For the record, I do not idolize Calvin, Washer, Kielar and co. - I feel an affinity with their message because it is Biblical.
Why do you favour Luther when he cussed just like Driscoll? Aren't they both in hell for being rabid cussers? And as I went to great pains to show - I AM NOT A DRISCOLL SUPPORTER...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
I AM NOT A DRISCOLL SUPPORTER..,
But you've said nothing to denounce him either. But you sit in judgement of "modern evengelism?" How can a "Calvinst" likePiper even affrim Driscoll? They is nothing but blasfeme, illreverence and cursing."With out holiness no one will see the Lord."
Why no Snoop Dog too? He can join the Calvinist club. No regeneration either. These are guys that are false modern evangelist. But the real is treated false. This is a Anti Christ spirit in you guys.
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
I did! I clearly said I do not support his vulgarity in the video. You really want some angry reaction so you can blackball more Calvinists. Well you're not going to get one.
Arguing for those who like Driscoll, Driscoll at least names the name of Jesus - Snoop does not. Both are as bad as each other though.
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
But you did not speak against him either.
No I do not.. But Calvinsm is Anti Christ. It is false and is headed into false religion. I speak out when I see Clavinst condeming everyone. I heard Paul Washer say if someone asked them "can I be saved?" He he'll say. "I don't know. Come back? What??
No , It's repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Chrsit. Now is day of Salvtion. To send them away is anti Bibical. And faith without deeds. He puts himself in place of God. This is Anti Christ
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
He's going to roast in hell like a chicken on rotiserrie. There I have now made painfully obvious I am against him.
I have that MP3 as ever, you are being selective with what you heard. Listen to the rest of the story when the person was truly converted. Christ said preach the Gospel, not make convert numbers...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Danny Girl is a wolf. Bottom Line. A alpha female wolf.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
You rock lil' bro. I've already spoke with dannygirl and explained that Mark Driscoll has nothing to do with Calvinism. Great job!
October31st1517 2 years ago
Oh we had that conversation but she is insistent she is, hence the video series. She was actually highly insistent of the fact that Calvinism is opening the door to the Emergent Church. Never mind, most of the work against the Emergent Church is by the Reformed...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
I would have to agree. The only people that have really been against the Emergent church publicy are reformed men. In books, sermons, ect.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
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simplydannygirl 2 years ago
But, I wondering why you Calvinist will not rebuke him and say he is niether a Calvinist or a Christian? Driscoll faults his sin.
Are good Christian men so wimpy and caught in their seudo intellectualism predestination, and election. That they have no descermnet. An seem how having a wicked false brother like Driscoll in the Church Where is Watchmen?
I even said prove me wrong.Say they are a Calvinist. And they are included? Calvin would role in his grave.
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
You really need to learn how to spell. It's PSEUDO-INTELLECTUALISM. What about the Calvinists who DON'T agree with Driscoll? Funny you choose to ignore them.
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Good Vid!
mistermiguel17 2 years ago
Thanks Bro. Miguel! Oh yeah, I picked up a copy of Christianity in Crisis: 21st Century. That book is fireeeeeeeee!
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Yeah it's a great book! I'm having to block and delete some biblically ignorant folks who are standing up for TBN, can you believe that? See my last video
mistermiguel17 2 years ago
Oh man, this I have to see for myself...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
I find it very interesting that all the Calvinist position has been refuted and yet you guys still hold on to it. This reminds me of when I debate the J.W.'s
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Let's have some fun.
FORCHRST, if faith precedes regeneration, why did you believe and your neighbor down the street didn't?
LaneCh 2 years ago 2
Did not we already go through this, we ended in a nursery rhyme did we not ? ( Why did the chicken cross the road ) You will not accept the bible you would rather philosophy On chooses darkness and one choose light, as you agreed, which affirms synergism. ( for those who would like to see that debate check out my feature video )
FORCHRST 2 years ago
We never finished the "debate". As one can go on your video and see two times you said, "Are you finished with the discussion? You just disapeared." and "Are we ever going to finish the debate ?" So... do you want to back down on these two comments now or actually address the question I raise? If you'd rather just ignore the question here, we'll just chalk it up to your bluff. That's fine with me.
LaneCh 2 years ago 3
That is right you blocked me and would not respond anymore . You already affirmed my response was true, one chooses darkness over light because he does not want his deeds exposed. Therefore address my text. If the bible is not sufficient for you then maybe you should not hold to Calvinism ( sola scripture )
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Dude, if it weren't that Lane is my buddy, I'd shut you down, but he seems familiar with you so I won't. I can DESTROY the position that faith precedes being born again - I used to teach it in evangelism classes. I am simply being more mature than you and saving it for another time. Now CAN IT or I will make you can it. Thanks for your understanding...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
I have no problem debating you both. We can start by you first addressing the text that I posted lets start with John 5:24.
Your pride is detestable :
"I can DESTROY the position that faith precedes being born again - I used to teach it in evangelism classes. I am simply being more mature than you and saving it for another time"
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Dude, as you can see, I have just started a series. After that, Lord willing I buy my webcam, I will begin a series on Just What is Calvinism (you can watch the promo on my channel). Save your arguments for there. Thanks...again.
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Well maybe lane will address my text.
Tit 1:9Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Listen, buddy, you want to make a baseless accusation about me blocking you from commenting on your own video then run away when I ask you to defend it. If that's the confidence you have behind your own assertions, I'm not going to waste my time with this.
LaneCh 2 years ago 3
STRAW MAN when did I say that you blocked me from commenting on my own video.
STRAW MAN LOL you can do better than that
FORCHRST 2 years ago
"That is right you blocked me and would not respond anymore ." ... "( for those who would like to see that debate check out my feature video )"
- FORCHRST in this comment section
From your own words, FORCHRIST, it's obvious that you accused me 1) of blocking you 2) on your featured video. Straw man? I guess it depends on how you're defining "straw man" on Saturdays. :)
LaneCh 2 years ago 3
LOL
Col 2:8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Please explain how that has to do with absolutely anything that's going on here regarding the question of *WHY* someone believes in Christ.
LaneCh 2 years ago 3
It doesn't it applies to your philosophy that I have been addressing
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Give me strength. So we can kill discussion until a later date, here is my view of John 5:24 -
It's talking about regeneration. No debate there. It's saying that those who hear the life-giving voice of Christ - through the preaching of the Word - will live.
Now I've answered you, will you hold your peace until the appropriate time...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Also, this is pretty good for entertainment value:
FORCHRST before: "You will not accept the bible you would rather philosophy"
FORCHRIST now: "Why does one put on a seat belt and the other doesn't... etc."
Both sides of that mouth are getting a workout today. :)
LaneCh 2 years ago 4
I have to address you in philosophy. You wont address the bible by the way the argument is a form of
Reductio ad absurdum
FORCHRST 2 years ago
FORCHRST, please explain how I could block you on your own video. That's a feature on Youtube I've never heard of before.
LaneCh 2 years ago 4
You blocked me I am unable to post on your page. I tried to get you to finish the debate but I was blocked.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
You've never been blocked from my page. I just double checked, and you're not blocked now. However, all that would be irrelevant to a video that is posted ON YOUR OWN PAGE. In other words, even if I had blocked you on my page, that doesn't inhibit what you do on your own.
LaneCh 2 years ago 2
So, again, since the "debate" was on your own video, how can I block you from commenting on your own page?
LaneCh 2 years ago 3
Let's get away from this red herring for the second. I asked you, "FORCHRST, if faith precedes regeneration, why did you believe and your neighbor down the street didn't?"
Your reply was, "one chooses darkness over light because he does not want his deeds exposed."
So now I ask you, "Why does one choose darkness over light?" because with your answer, you still haven't addressed the issue of *WHY*.
LaneCh 2 years ago 2
Why does one put on a seat belt and the other doesn't. People know it will save their life. Yet they CHOOSE not to put on their seat belt. As was taught in the gospel of John they do not want their deeds exposed.( THEIR CHOICE ) Your answer is right their in the bible. SOLA SCRIPTURE
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Why do they choose to put on their seat belt and another person doesn't? Why does one person know it will save their life and another doesn't? You still haven't even come close to answering the question I raised of *WHY*.
(Doug, the fun part is watching this guy dance. :) )
LaneCh 2 years ago 3
Why wont you address the bible you try to deceive people with philosophy. If you do not except the bible and what it says why dont you give me some philosophy and tell me why. Even though this goes against sola scripture
FORCHRST 2 years ago
And with that, folks, I'm through with the waltz today. Sad. This guy accuses other people of being synonymous to cults, yet his method of apologetics is pretty much the same that I get from JW's, Mormons, and the like. Sad, indeed. If you ever have the courage to answer the question of *WHY* someone comes to the LIGHT, FORCHRST, I'll be happy to listen. Just let me know.
LaneCh 2 years ago
Has anyone notice that Lane will not address the bible ? Especially John 5:24 I do thank you youngcalvinist for at least responding biblically and addressing the text and I will respect your wish and wait to address you at another point just let me know when you do a video on the subject.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
They Don't Want Their Deeds Exposed. Do you not comprehend the bible it is sufficient
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Well, that would be great if that's the question I asked. BUT I asked you specifically *WHY one comes to the LIGHT*. Can you answer that one specifically, please?
LaneCh 2 years ago
This would be a different question. The love of God leads men to repentance . Your original question was why one does and another doesn't.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Oh, wait... so you are going to interact with the question? So your answer as to *WHY* someone comes to the light is, "The love of God."? Please let me know if that's your position because I don't want to misrepresent it.
LaneCh 2 years ago 2
There multiple answers to that question, that is not the only answer.
Jn 5:24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Here is another answer to that question any reason you still have not addressed it .
FORCHRST 2 years ago
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LaneCh 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I don't usually do this, but I'm going to address your red herring, FORCHRST, and after I do, I hope you'll understand why I haven't seen the need to do so yet.
The verse says, "He that heareth (Jesus') word, and believeth on him that sent (Jesus), hath everlasting life,"
*WHY* does one hear Jesus' word and believe on God? Essentially, you're back to the same question (which along side it being a red herring is the reason I haven't addressed it yet).
LaneCh 2 years ago
Now, let's say that you say, "Well, they that hear will believe!" Ok. Well, how could you exegete this verse:
"What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, as it is written, "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day." (Rom 11:7-8)
(cont...)
LaneCh 2 years ago
First, notice who the Bible says obtained it. It was God's elect or God's chosen. Then see who didn't obtain it. It was those who were hardened. Well, who hardened those people? The Bible tells us that God gave them... "EARS THAT WOULD NOT HEAR." Well, isn't it pretty obvious that God's chosen are the one's who obtain it, the rest don't, and the reason they don't hear is because God doesn't give them the ability to hear (one can't hear without an "ear", right?) :)
LaneCh 2 years ago
Ro 11:2-5God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he appeals to God against Israel? Lord, they have killed your prophets, they have demolished your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life. But what is Gods reply to him? I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal. So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
God foreknew his people the ones that did not bow their knee or had faith.
'But what is Gods reply to him? I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal."
The rest were hardened why because God knew they would not believe, out of God hardening them they could not believe but he hardened them because of lack of faith .
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Ro 11:6-8But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, as it is written, God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Like I said it is the goodness of God that leads man to repent. He reveals this to us through his word.
Ro 10:16-17But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
While I am on Romans 10 But what does it say? The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Dude, shut it. Either you can the red herrings and bravado comments or you'll be blocked (and the first person to be blocked by me at that). I'm warning you...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
LOL I had to address lanes straw man argument
FORCHRST 2 years ago
do you want to block me for that ?
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Clearly you have no respect for me, so I don't really care. Keep going...
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Please forgive me, seeing that you feel that way.The Lord has put a burden on my heart for those deceived by Calvinism. Dont get me wrong there is alot of truth in Calvinism and I encourage people in the study of it. However the logical conclusions of the doctrines lead the fatalism and universalism
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Maybe the god of this world has told you to debate against calvinism, but not the God of the bible. Universalism can only stem from someone who believe in an unlimited atonement. Not a limited atonement. Secondly the bible teaches fatalism, the deffinition of fatalism is humans are unable to change what has been planed. The Bible says God works everything after the council of his will. It doesnt say he works everything after the council of mans will. Who caused the tsunami that killed thousands?
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
Not true universalism stems from irresistible grace and John 12:32 . It is the logical conclusion to your theology.
Also here is a def. of fatalism
Fatalism
In general the term fatalism denotes the idea that whatever happens is determined and caused by an irresistible, supernatural power that leaves no room for human decision. What is ordained for individuals cannot be foreseen in advance.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
No it stems from a horible mistranslation of JOhn 12:32 that doesnt respect the collective meaning of the word pas.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
Nor the context of John 12:32 at verse 20 where he is actually talking to greeks.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
Do you understand what a literary unit is.?In the clause of John 12:32 please show me where there is an article that say's greeks. It is not there. Pas without an article means what ?
FORCHRST 2 years ago
I did. I said the bible says that He works everything after the council of his own will not the creatures will ect. its down there.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
lol
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Where is the article ?
FORCHRST 2 years ago
CONTEXT..... Who is jesus talking to, where is he at, all these things matter in interpreting text. With the situation seeing as Jesus RARELY went to greeks, he even specifically told his disciples NOT to go to them, it would make sense for him to let them know that greeks would be drawn in also, we see this in acts.PAS does not always mean all.You did not answer my questions on it on your page. Mark 1:5 Did ALL judea and Jerusalem get baptized pharasee's and all!?!? ALL DOESNT ALWAYS MEAN ALL.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
there are exeptions and there are rules what is the rule when pas does not have an article. by the way there is an article in mark 1:5 so it does not need to be addresed
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Does it have 2 definitions?! I will Go with scripture interpreting scripture he will draw all that the father has given him. JOHN 17.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
So i guess you are saying that (all pas) things are not given to Jesus. Nice..
FORCHRST 2 years ago
No God the father did not give Jesus all humans to be saved. Jesus even said that. HENCE HE SAID "I DO NOT PRAY FOR THE WORLD BUT THOSE YOU HAVE GIVEN ME" I see that you do not believe the attonement was accepted by the father in the most holy place. STUDY hebrews man. If he died for all then all would be saved or else he died for people in hell. He substituted the wrath of God but it was not enough, the human had to have done something Good. He had to have Good faith. A Good work.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
John calvin didnt hold to limited atonement have you not studie his work.
He died for all but all do not accept therefore the atonement is not applied to all some resist God
Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.Acts 7:51KJV
Only to those that believe will they be regenerated.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
I do not hold to calvin's teachings anyways I hold to what the bible says. I have never even read a book by Calvin. Jesus put away sin in hebrews and if he PUT AWAY sin and abolished the law there would be no transgression for anyone in the heavenlies. Hence universalism. How were they supposed to uncircumcised theyre heart? The whole sermon is talking about the past of Israel so that was the sum of the sermon. They couldnt have uncircumsized theyre heart God would have had to intervene.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
dwaynesweatman1988 said: I do not hold to calvin's teachings, I have never even read a book by Calvin.
I cannot believe any of these other calvinist have not hymed you up for speeking on their behalf.
I agree You should only hold to the bible however How can you state you hold to the doctrines of grace and not read calvin or follow his teachings .
LOL.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Well the only reason I really know tulip Is the fact that I heard it preached AGAINST. Why would they himm me up? Its not about Calvin. Most Calvinists will say they do not agree with him on everything.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
lol yes I agree most calvinist dont agree with calvin and that is on the majority of his stuff. Tulip came after John Calvin died along with limited atonement
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Have you Ever read John Calvin's commentary on 1 John 2:2 He makes it plain the attonement was not for all...
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
So what you are saying is Calvin contradicts himself because in his commentary on John 3:16 he says the opposite here let me post it for you
FORCHRST 2 years ago
John Calvins commentary John 3:16
And he has employed the universal term whosoever, both to invite all indiscriminately to partake of life, and to cut off every excuse from unbelievers. cont...
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Such is also the import of the term World, which he formerly used; for though nothing will be found in the world that is worthy of the favor of God, yet he shows himself to be reconciled to the whole world, when he invites all men without exception to the faith of Christ, which is nothing else than an entrance into life.
As seen here either you are misunderstanding calvins on atonement or he contradicts himself
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Dont get me wrong I have studied others and history and whatnot but never really Calvins writings because I wanted to have my view WITHOUT Calvin so I wouldnt have that throwed up in my face...Understand? I mean look at danny girl she constantly refers to calvin to refute calvinism, and its not even about him, paul taught everything he did and before Paul ,Jesus Did.I must ask you this are you Ordained to eternal life because you believe or do you believe b/c of Ordination.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
I have a lot of repect for calvin. He was a brilliant writer. In his commentary on 1 John 5:1 he said faith precedes regeneration so where does that leave the doctrines of grace ?
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Well where does it say in the bible that God cant give you a gift before regeneration. Calvin did believe that faith was a gift in his commentary on Philipians 1:29 I do know that because I looked it up.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
Even John MacAruthur says Look I dont know what order things happend Are you Regenerate, then believe, then repent or any other order I just know theyre all gifts. Or something along those lines I got it on a CD
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
Then I guess Macarthur doesnt hold to the Tulip because tulip spells out the order. I have also heard James white say the same thing as macarthur. But they are in direct contradiction with the doctrines of grace. They wont hold to an order because they know they cant hold their position but again how can they truly teach the doctrines of grace >
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Was he talking about the ability to have faith or faith itself see that is where I think most people misunderstand calvin
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Where is the article ? The rule is pas without an article means what ?
FORCHRST 2 years ago
The bible does say God works everything according to HIS will. Not according to the creatures will. You can change your fate if God sends a lighting bolt into your dome? I think not Forchrist. In the same way if someone who didnt excepte the gospel. Who created them and ended therye life? You dont respect God as an eternal omnipotent soverign King. You think the creature is and God just cannot control him.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
Yes according to his will and by his will he has chose to regenerate us through faith.
Another strawman
FORCHRST 2 years ago
I notice you didnt comment on the definition of fatalism (dwaynesweatman1988)
FORCHRST 2 years ago
By the way what do you think about flames song called context
FORCHRST 2 years ago
What is FORCHRIST talking about all over your comments? He is shameful.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
I really haven't the faintest idea.
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Straw man LOL
FORCHRST 2 years ago
You stopped posting and the attempts I made of getting you to debate were were failed. I will check again to see if I can post in your comment box now. Regardless why dont you address John 5:24 for me. I am just looking for some exegesis showing how faith does not precede regeneration in that text. That is all I am asking
FORCHRST 2 years ago
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LaneCh 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Let's ignore the fact that you changed your story from "me blocking you on your own video" to "(I) stopped posting and the attempts (you) made of getting (me) to debate were failed" for now. Please address *WHY* one chooses light over darkness. If you decide not to address that, I believe it will be obvious to anyone why I stopped commenting on your video a couple weeks ago.
LaneCh 2 years ago 2
PS. I'll happily address your red herrings when you can answer for me *WHY* someone chooses light over darkness.
LaneCh 2 years ago 2
And still no reply from lanech
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Actually I still cannot post in your comments box any reason ?
FORCHRST 2 years ago
If you're trying to post on my channel profile page, you won't be able to. That section is reserved for my friends. You're still more than welcomed to post on any video on my channel just as you've always been, though.
LaneCh 2 years ago
Oh that's why I could not post. Thanks I apologize I thought you blocked me. By the way do you plan on answering my question of were people regenerated in the old testament ?
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Did God talk to everyone like he did Abraham?
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
No they were not regenerate like in the new testatment, it was different. They had visual acts of God done for them, and audibly heard God. Hence they were not asked to BELIEVE the foolishness of the Gospel. Which no one can without an inward call. God was still responsible for theyre coming to him in the old testament by the mighty acts that he did and,as abraham and cain,audibly talking to them,or else they would have been just like the gentiles and those before the flood. Wicked constantly.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
Straw man I never said that I just said you blocked me LOL
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Lanech. You guys are phony or foolish.
Slice is far better than you. Sad it takes a Deborah because you guys are hiding fields. Go read your 400 year old Calvinist. books. I'll stand word of God which endures forever.
Have hard time writing in these boxes.
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
simplydannygirl (5 minutes ago):
"I used watch illbehonest. But I was sick of their condeming."
simplydannygirl (2 minutes ago):
"Lanech. You guys are phony or foolish. Slice is far better than you."
danny, I never watched your videos seriously. If I wanted a good dose of hypocrisy, there are plenty of places in the world where I can get that ALONG WITH a coherent thought. I haven't been able to find either on your channel except when you discuss motors.
LaneCh 2 years ago 2
LOL LANE....motors....I needed a laugh....Scooter motors!
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
Lane let me ask you a question ? Were the people in the old testament regenerated ?
FORCHRST 2 years ago
No they were not regenerate like in the new testatment, it was different. They had visual acts of God done for them, and audibly heard God. Hence they were not asked to BELIEVE the foolishness of the Gospel. Which no one can without an inward call. God was still responsible for theyre coming to him in the old testament by the mighty acts that he did and,as abraham and cain,audibly talking to them,or else they would have been just like the gentiles and those before the flood. Wicked constantly.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
If man is total depraved in the calvinistic understanding then how did the people in Hebrews 11 believe ?
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Calvin Believed faith precedes regeneration
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Ill read the 2000 year old book that teaches the doctrines of calvinism called the bible myself danny.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
FORCHRIST, your assumption is wrong. Just plain wrong.Your teachings are wrong.I have watched what I could stomach.Historically proven in the church is the refutation of what you believe> Salvation is of yourself,for God could not have saved you without your work of faith.You are the historic heretic, not us.You would have walked away from Jesus at john 6:66 too if you were there, and,do what you do now, serve another Jesus. John 6:45- You must hear and learn from the father BEFORE you can come.
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
LOL apart from Augustine almost every major church father held to synergism. Why don't you take the time and read the church fathers . Start with Thomas Aquinas
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Great Job! So many want to take the words of one and use them to smear the whole movement. God's truth must stand on its adherence to sound biblical principles and nothing else. God bless you!
Blogrich55 2 years ago 3
Why did beutifultulip close his account while me and edwardpf123 was debating him on his latest video ? You seemed to be good friends with him maybe you can tell me
FORCHRST 2 years ago
I personally wasn't aware that he had closed his account. You really think the Calvinist position has been refuted?
Blogrich55 2 years ago
I figured you out of everyone would know what happened to him.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Danny asks where's people like Ken Silva who need to be writing against stuff like Driscoll does. She's obviously WAY out of the loop to think that Silva doesn't write against that stuff. :)
LaneCh 2 years ago 3
Man you're stealing my thunder LOL. I have heaps of stuff from Pastor Ken for the next video. Out of the loop? She was never in it, which is sad, since she is very passionate.
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
If you look at her description, too, you'll see her ask where I am speaking out against this stuff with "expository preaching". She doesn't do her research very well, or she would have seen the Sound Doctrine, Sound Words video posted about a week before she made her's. :)
LaneCh 2 years ago 3
I used watch illbehonest. But I was sick of their condeming. And all they do is posture over a pulpit.
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
ARE YOU JOKING DANNY. LANE HAS A SECTION ON HIS PAGE ABOUT HOW DRISCOLL HAS "POISONIOUS" THINGS ON HIS PAGE! YOU ARE AN IRREVERANT PERSON WHO TELLS HORRIBLE LIES ABOUT PEOPLE AND MISREPRESENTS MEN OF GOD. I have been sending you PMs about the video of Phil Johnson at the Sheperds Conference at John Macaurthurs church and you Just ignore the facts. YOUR ARE ARE A LIAR AND NEED TO REPENT OF YOUR WITCHCRAFT. AND DONT PLAY THE "OOOOO HES YELLING AND DOESNT LOVE." CARD. JESUS YELLED AND WOULD AT YOU!
dwaynesweatman1988 2 years ago
Silva. is the only one. But not that much any more. But Lane. You say nothing at all.
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
Also on the same note ( faith precedes regeneration ) John 1:12-13 makes it clear
Jn 1:12-13But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
We are born out of the will of God. And the will of God is to draw all men .
Jn 12:32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
We draws us that we may believe
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Faith is active not passive. We must believe , God demands a relationship. Without faith it is impossible to please God. Therefore if you believe you were passive in being regenerate / (faith did not precede regeneration ) then I suggest one would check his salvation. Because without and active faith one cannot be regenerated.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
I take a dim view of off-topic comments.
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Calvinism is the topic, I find it meaningless to address your video because that is not the underlying problem your doctrine is. Why don't you ask your buddy's why they didn't respond.
Tit 1:9Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
FORCHRST 2 years ago
Then don't comment, dude. Unless it's about Mark Driscoll or Calvinists as PEOPLE, not interested for this particular video. Take your hobby horse elsewhere until I address Calvinism as a doctrine (which I will in this series)
YoungCalvinist08 2 years ago
Dude faith precedes regeneration Calvinism is already destroyed
Jn 5:24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
The way the Calvinist teach irresistible grace also forces them to modify Total depravity seeing as man had the ability to believe prior to regeneration
FORCHRST 2 years ago