@Philosophydebater ... hahaha... You're correct. I've never seen somebody put so much effort into being a Youtube troll. Well, I supposed when you're a complete moron, (like vandytorch,) you have to find some way to spew your stupidity to the world. Why not Youtube?
Anders Behring Breivik, Norwegian mass murderer and right-wing extremist, was not acting under any orders from a priest, or a "Christian cell", but from the screaming hate and vitriol poured out by the likes of AYAAN and HER NASTY & MISCHIEVOUS FRIENDS against the Left and Muslims.
The caricature and fear are spread as diligently by the Christian extremists as they are by militant atheists such as Ayaan.
what kind of fucking clip is this supposed to be? the kid with the question could barely articulate it, and the clip was cut before the answer was given...if that's your idea of a smackdown, then the bar for smackdowns must be set shockingly low wherever it is you reside.
Anders Behring Breivik, Norwegian psychopathic killer, mass murderer and right-wing extremist, in his 1,500-page manifesto, makes several complimentary references to Ayaan.
If we went and disregarded anybody who has ever been referenced and/or complimented by some psychopathic mass murderer we would have to start with the religions, all of them, and work our way through all sciences and politics until we are back in caves.
That some idiot gets inspired to kill people does not mean anything. If you can provide a quote where she openly advocates murder, we can talk. Until then, STFU
Ayaan was forced to resign as a digraced Dutch MP and announced her departure for the US. She has proven to be a rampant opportunist who succesfully seduced soft-in-the-head Dutch liberals with lies and divisive posturing before shitting on them and joining her right-wing, neo-liberal compatriots in the US, the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). They exploited her predicament to forward their Neocon anti-Islamic/war agenda. In turn she has to carry water for them.
@fromwilliams Educate yourself about why she left the Dutch parliament. She came to the country under false pretense claiming political prosecution when she was in fact forced into an oppressive marriage (which is just as bad but not covered by the law).
When she became to influential a right wing politician used that falsely granted asylum to get her removed from the country.
Her departure was disgraceful. It was a disgraceful plot by some opportunist politician to get her out of the way
• We were lied into the Iraq War by Israel Lobby neocons on behalf of Israel and now they are pushing for war with Iran, also for Israeli expansionism. Saddam was no threat to us and neither is Iran. Currently these same warmongers are stirring up anti-Muslim hatred, opposing mosques, etc, in preparation for war with Iran. The answer of course is Middle East peace but that's the last thing these settlement-expanders want. Meanwhile the U.S goes bankrupt with all these unnecessary wars.
I think it may also prove helpful to some of the viewers here to try to evaluate many of the more strident claims of the anti-theist critique ("brights") from a ideological/ metaphysics perspective. Check out the recent article by Jackson Lears in the May 16, 2011 issue of the The Nation entitled "Same Old New Atheism" .The article offers a compelling analysis of Sam Harris' works. Consideration is given to general secular social perspectives
Ayaan has fooled and hoodwinked whites. Mercenaries like Ayaan would sell their own families for money. She is far more disgusting and despicable than her fellow countryman Somalian pirates.
In the words of Katrina Fox, editor-in-chief, The Scavenger:
“….( Ayaan) she’s a narrow-minded bigot scarred by her own experiences who has been seduced by right-wing westerners to become a popular mouthpiece for their racist agendas.”
The practice of female circumcision dates to the time of the pharoahs in Egypt and practiced mainly in Sub-Saharan Africa.
★FGM IS NOT ISLAMIC !!!!!
Ayaan’s definition is so narrowly extremist, that she dumps forced marriage,honour killings (domestic violence), FGM, terrorism & other un-Islamic practices in the “Islam” category.
As Dr. Stephen R. Covey said, "seek to understand before being understood."
@fromwilliams: Yes, FGM indeed extends beyond the bounds of Islamic tradition and institutional practice, but it still occurs within those bounds, something that Ayaan rightly acknowledges. In this regard, Stephen R. Covey is correct when he states that “[a]ccountability breeds response-ability.”
FGM is cultural that derives from pre-Islamic practices and in some cases resemble those of Eastern Cushitic-speaking peoples...something that people will hold onto regardless of their religion.Its a battle..one minute you will think you've had a breakthrough the next minute an FGM girl appears in the media.Maasai,samburus,boranas,somalis,the central regions in kenya some bantuspeaking people of that region,its a battle against culture and far less of religion.
@fromwilliams: Yes, FGM is a cultural phenomenon that cannot be fully understood solely within the confines of religion, but this does not negate the fact that Islam still informs the ideological bent associated with removing women's clitorises. Of all the religious proclivities discernable in modern society, FGM is most connected to this particular religion. I acknowledge that by ONLY looking at Islam, one risks obscuring what it takes to tackle FGM, but we must still look at Islam proper.
@fromwilliams You are correct about the origin of FGM. But in the 21st century FGM is practised almost exclusively in Saharan Africa and these countries are Islamic.
It is a susperstitious, barbaric pratice that needs to be eradicated - the only people who could do this are the Imams - but they appear to be reluctant, why?
Have you guys read what the bible says about non believers? ignorant peasants and hypocrites each and every one of you. Well it's a far worse fate then that described in the quran. Hirsi is obviously a derranged islamophope on a payroll with PROVEN zionist backing..she's admitted it openly in interviews. The gas chambers are over for jews they are building new ones for muslims and the architects this time are the likes of Hirsi and you!
I know what it says. I also know it says Christians are to love them and reach out to them. Other than that their fate is in god's hands. For it is not the Christians' role to pass judgment on each other, that is their gods realm.
Sounds like a pretty sound theological principle.
Ayaan's repeated bitter attacks on the character, personal & professional life of Muslims is not only appalling but madness.
Her anti-Muslim rants & rhetoric only serve to advance her own agenda.Anyone that supports her agenda is also mad. Ayaan, you are a morally corrupt, serious grub & a juvenile scammer.
Your derogatory remarks, hoax, deceit, delusion, misrepresentation & exploitation of Muslims, glowing innacuracies only expose you for the career con artist & literary hoaxer you are.
The final judgment of all humanity lies in the hands of the One Almighty, their Creator, to whom we all return (22:68-69), (42:15).God loves justice and those who strive to practice it, especially toward people who are different from them in any way, particularly in religious belief (5:8), (60:8).
Yeah, the Muslim god really loves non-Muslims: "Non-Muslims will enter hell with frantic with fear, knowing they will be tortured forever by Allah." 70:36, 44
You need to reach out to proper sources of understanding Islam and Islamic terminology, and not only will you not feel abused but appreciate Islam in the proper perspective.
You couldn't include enough of the clip for her to answer the question? It would have been more of a smack down if she'd told the twerp to specify what his problem was or ignored him.
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Ayaan's repeated bitter attacks on the character, personal & professional life of Muslims is not only appalling but madness.
Her anti-Muslim rants & rhetoric only serve to advance her own agenda.Anyone that supports her agenda is also mad. Ayaan, you are a morally corrupt, serious grub & a juvenile scammer.
Your derogatory remarks, hoax, deceit, delusion, misrepresentation & exploitation of Muslims, glowing innacuracies only expose you for the career con artist & literary hoaxer you are.
Ayaan Ali Hirsi is devasting to the cause of the Islamic Brotherhood and their ilk because she experienced their horrific behavior from the inside. Assail her all you want, but her credentials on these matters are undeniable.
Ayaan is a useful idiot ruse for disguising the age-old campaign of capitalist conquest of resources with polarizing politics of religious antagonism and extremism.
She is one of many hacks, tools, used as an auxiliary by the Islamophobic neo-cons such as the American Enterprise Institiute, to transmit their hatred against Muslims and spread the war on the next state in American-Israeli cross-hairs. Wakey...wakey
Ayaan preaches hateful, reactionary and an extremely popular view through a career based upon insipid, unreliable, hysterical and extremely profitable demonizing of a faith path that fits in nicely with the anti-Arab and muslim agenda of nations seeking to avoid their own critical self-analysis while unjustly and idiotically stereotyping and mass marketing muslims as to blame for all the ailments in the World. Wakey wakey.
fromwilliams thinks the U.S army is the biggest killer on earth. At the beginning of the Afghan war the Taliban executed 15,000 Shia Muslims in one day. When the U.S invaded Iraq in 93 Muslims targeted the 70,000 Mandaeasts population for extinction leaving only 5000 of them left fleeing to Iran. Muslims use the war as an excuse for genocide and rack the numbers up to civilian casualties.
IT’S HOW IT'S PRACTICED THAT IMPACTS ON PEOPLE’S LIVES AND ON SOCIETY. VILIFYING AN ENTIRE RELIGION OR PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THAT RELIGION IS NOT THE WAY TO CREATE A HARMONIOUS SOCIETY - AS HISTORY HAS SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
@fromwilliams and when the people practicing refuse to integrate into a harmonious society because it is against their religion that causes problems as well.
NON secular states and REMOVING religion from anything but beliefs is harmonious and that's what she's about.
Not that muslim = bad just that elements are not harmonious with a democratic society similar to how the Bible's first testament is now widely disregarded because it is a violent book.
@fromwilliams and when the people practicing refuse to integrate into a harmonious society because it is against their religion that causes problems as well.
NON secular states and REMOVING religion from anything but beliefs is harmonious and that's what she's about.
Not that muslim = bad just that elements are not harmonious with a democratic society similar to how the Bible's first testament is now widely disregarded because it is a violent book.
@fromwilliams Islam and Muslims are two different things. Islam, as a collection of ideas, beliefs, rules, and practices, is incorrect, immoral, and destructive. Now, Muslims are like everyone else: Some Muslims are evil, some are good people, most are somewhere in between. There are 1.4 billion Muslims and they are all individuals. However, there is only 1 Islam and it can be vilified.
Why isn’t Ayan Hirshe debating with Somalia Muslim like me REERXAMAR could it be they know what she is and what she was .is it because western are paying her money to demonize Muslim. let is debate with your country men or women then you will to know her the real Ayan Hirshe……….if want hear bull shit the keep it that way.. why alway talk about sauid arabia why not direct to somali we do know you what you are....ahahahaha LAIR LAIR
Keith Ellison, US Congressman (D-MN), Capitol Hill, (09 October 2010):
“The non-Muslim experts – Robert Spencer (leading anti-Muslim advocate in the Park51 Project controversy), Ayaan Hirsi Ali (prolific anti-Muslim writer), and Franklin Graham (said Islam “is a very evil and wicked religion”) – are well known, even famous, for spewing anti-Muslim hate”.
@fromwilliams and ALL the names you mention are admired/respect by the vast majority in the west...those who, unlike you, find oppression/denial of human rights/degradation of females and the SICKNESS of the 'hoax' of islam to be repulsive
these people have morals/values .....but muslims who SUPPORT what islam is,does & causes show how devoid they are of any integrity whatsoever
LOL You pick around trying to find little flaws with her. You cannot deny the fact that islam is a backwards religion created by a mass murdering pedohpile and trash like this is cruel, sadistic and NOT merciful as islam claims!
22.19: As for the unbelievers, for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skins shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods.
2) She has no concern for Muslims who are being killed by the U.S military, currently the most prolific killer on earth. White Christian Americans are never asked why they dont condemn the Iraq occupation that has cost nearly 1 million lives. They arent asked to condemn racism, warfare, torture,or sexism.
1) Mainstream moderate Muslims are right in front of you, speaking all the time, advancing a Muslim vision of mercy and cooperation. It's time people added their voices to moderates, instead of amplifying the message of extremists.
Bigot - a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance. Synonyms: dogmatist, dogmatizer.
The person is Ayaan & she is intolerant of Muslims. Ayaan is 100% a bigot dogmatizer.
It's time for Atheist to stand up, put on the armor of reason, and carry the fight into the light of day. The Muslims are demanded in every verse of the Koran to either kill Atheist or impede or progress for equal justice!!!!!!!!!!
As a liberal,I think that while Ayaan's story was sad & tragic (I read the book and sympathize with her),her portrayal of Islam is unfair,it needs to be understood that this version of islam is her subjective view.The verses that are quoted in 'submission' are taken out of context. This does happen in some contexts within families who claim to be practicing Islam,but in fact there is a lot of tradition that is mixed within this,& it is not true Islam.Read about Islam.
@dipticheerath "Islam is not the only fascist and sexist religion" Indeed, in fact Judeochristianity's criminal record and depredations, since it's been around so much longer, historically vastly outnumber Islam's. But Islam is the religion whose fascism, sexism and glorification of violence wreaks the most havoc in the world today...upon its own people.
@dipticheerath Probably not, but that's the religion that's running around massacring people. The Christians did that as a large organized force hundreds of years ago. Islam is doing it now.
I have listened to this asshole Ayaan and she does not speak for anyone except for the neocons like bush and rush limbaugh and THE NEOCON NETWORK FOX. She stays on because she speaks for there anti Muslim views. She is a vile asshole.
Ayaan,Im really not sure what your credentials as an Islamic scholar are, beyond the fact that you are an alleged Muslim-turned-atheist and have aligned yourself with the ideals of American conservatism. Moderate Muslims are all around us. At least they are all around me, every single day. Perhaps Ms. Ali needs to open her eyes a bit wider, get out more,be a bit more observant. Wakey wakey.
@fromwilliams Moderate theists are just as ignorant as extremists. And the moderates allow the extremists to thrive. All religions MUST be swept away from the face of the Earth.
@fromwilliams I've read through your posts. And you're calling me a troll. All you do is attack Ayaan, you're the troll. Your BS is certainly nonsensical. Ayaan is probably more liberal-leaning than conservative btw. You're an imbecile. Islam is so repressive of women. I dislike all religions, but Islam is the worst and most dangerous. Get a clue.
@CaligirlSofia I said nothing about killing people. I said religions must go. If you don't think this planet would be more peaceful without religions, you need to study history and current events a bit more.
@fromwilliams i mean yeah, she only had her clitoris cut off, death threats aimed at her in song, and literally a death threat note pinned w/ a knife to the chest of a colleague, had to receive government protection from Muslims for years, escaped from a county steeped in Sharia law that condones killing of fornicators, gays, defectors and pretty much "infidels" of any type. so yeah, w/ all the FIRST HAND experience she's had..she needs to open her eyes, get out more, and observe more. Go you!
@abrahambivins of course the mouth-breathing fromwilliams has nothing to say to this.. most likely has to resort to claiming that's "all fabricated" and "zionist" something or other. don't waste your time balancing evidence versus interest with mental midgets - they don't get it.
Ayaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute. If you go there ask for the pimp, his name is Dick Cheney. Just present your atheist discount card.
Ayaan,Im really not sure what your credentials as an Islamic scholar are, beyond the fact that you are an alleged Muslim-turned-atheist and have aligned yourself with the ideals of American conservatism. Moderate Muslims are all around us. At least they are all around me, every single day. Perhaps Ms. Ali needs to open her eyes a bit wider, get out more,be a bit more observant. Wakey wakey.
@fromwilliams Right. A courageous woman who survived some of the worst things that Islam and East-African tribalism can offer, who has first-hand witnessed the formation of groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, who has seen the effects of Islam on society and on women in at least a half-dozen countries... needs to "get out more?" Needs to "open her eyes?" Your ignorance should shame you to silence, sir. It's a pity for the rest of us that it doesn't.
Ayaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute. If you go there ask for the pimp, his name is DICK Cheney. Just present your atheist discount card.
Suzig, no one wants to read the story of a lost clitoris. You wanna fetch go and find from Somalia and put in her lost and found box. she might pay you with some of her infidel book money.
@saxweeyaan I respect the respectable. And this woman is an amazing person. Strong intelligent and thoughtful. I think it is pathetic and cowardly that many ignorant so called Islamic males are afraid of their women. Grow some balls or better yet a brain to go with them.
@saxweeyaan "We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart." - H. L. Mencken
Ayaan preaches hateful, reactionary and an extremely popular view through a career based upon insipid, unreliable, hysterical and extremely profitable demonizing of a faith path that fits in nicely with the anti-Arab and muslim agenda of nations seeking to avoid their own critical self-analysis while unjustly and idiotically stereotyping and mass marketing muslims as to blame for all the ailments in the World.
Ayaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute. If you go there ask for the pimp, his name is DICK Cheney. Oh, I just remembered Dick is on his death bed. Anyway, just present your atheist discount card.
Ayaaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute. If you go there ask for the pimp, his name is DICK Cheney. Oh, I just remembered Dick is on his death bed. Anyway, just present your atheist discount card.
Ayaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute. If you go there ask for the pimp, his name is Dick Cheney. Oh, I just remembered Dick is on his death bed. Anyway, just present your atheist discount card.
Ayaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute.
The second most popular graduation gift for young women across the United states in 2008 was elective breast augmentation surgery, commonly known as a boob job. Now that shows the depth and breadth of the type of young women we are developing here at home.
I can tell you that the beauty of the Islamic faith and the character development of muslim women and girls is in the main, in its depth and inner beauty, and development of Love as an art and a life force--far beyond the alphagirlism of the USA and wannabe vicious selfish and lame alphagirl Islamic rejects like Atheist Ayaan.
She is amazing. Being bright and being courageous apparently are bad things in the eyes of religious nutjobs. It's odd how they claim to represent the highest of the high, and in practice, always seem to embody the lowest of the low.
@fromwilliams Bit confused here, you say Israel has 200+ nuclear bombs and it wants to dominate the region - why doesn't it use them? Why do you say it's one of the most DANGEROUS [sic] nations on earth? All I see is that it's protecting what it thinks are it's borders. I'm not aware of it sending bombers into surrounding countries. With all those missiles, you'd think it would blast a 20 mile clear zone around itself. Why doesn't it do that?
@gov1683 That's some terrible counter-logic, bro. Israel is a conglomeration of Zionist bullies backed by the Western world because we felt bad about WWII. It doesn't drop bombs because we say so. Palestine has every reason to gripe, as much as any other oppressed minority.
You also show poor understanding of nuclear ballistics. "20 mile clear zone"? Where? How? baby nukes, perhaps? You make no sense.
The fantasy involves a domino theory. The destruction of Saddam's Iraq to remove an enemy of long-standing but also to change the basic power equation in the region. To send a msg to Syria and Iran about the perils of support for Islamic terrorists. To send a Msg to the Palestinians too: Democratize and make peace on Israeli terms, or forget about a state of your own.
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Any deal must include disarming Israel which has 200-400 NUCLEAR bombs and is one of the most DANGEROUS nations on earth. It has evaded many opportunities for a just peace because it's secret agenda is to DOMINATE the region. The atheist Zionists who rule Israel and the Zionists in America have tricked the U.S. into a Mideast war.
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How can recounting her terrible experiences as a woman of Islam be considered "spreading hate"?
Is it because her experiences are embarrassing to muslims, and that puts her in the category of anyone who speaks out against this terrible religion? (Not that Christianity is any better)
@tumsamusa12 there is no such thing as "open minded" information. Only accurate and inaccurate. Since my information comes from the Quran and from sharia law, I figure that it is pretty accurate. Plus Ayan Hirsi Ali has no reason to lie. Correction, she has EVERY reason to lie to save her life from the Muslims that she is exposing as hateful, just to save her life. BUT courageously she chooses to tell the truth.
@AtheistEvolution actually christianity is much better... dont event think for a second that they compare at all to eachother!!! did you know 60 percent of all charity work and social help in north america is christian based organizations? seems to me there is a very important trend there.
@BigG99 But 80 or 90% of America in Christian. I know many non-Christians and even atheists who do charity work and give money. How much charity is done per capita by Christians?
Atheists commit less crimes, have better family lives and get fewer abortions than believers. Weird if morals are supposed to come from God, right?
ok so first off, no 80 percent of america is not christian. do you know how they got that stat? not by biblical standards but by social norms... not an accurate picture. and as for less crimes, and better family lives stat, you must be looney, i have never seen stats for that argument. in fact its usually the contrary. the only thing that we are even on is divorce. america has such a twisted view on christianity. its more of a poilitical and social norm then a faith at all. be more worldy.
@BigG99 Be more worldly? Seriously look up the data. I have never seen a study where nonbelievers commit more crime, have more abortions, have more teens getting pregnant, etc. Proper studies always, always, always, go the other way. If you want to reduce abortions in America then convert everybody to atheism.
@sulljoh1 thats the most rediculous thing i have ever heard.. Alan Guttmacher Institute reported in 2001-JUL that 37.4% of all abortions are performed on Protestant women. the rest on people of other faiths or, yes atheists. and only 18% of those were born again christians. thats only 6 percent of total abortions. , i dont understand where you got your stat from, christians are the minority.being christian doesnt make a person perfect. apparently some christians make mistakes just like you!
@BigG99 This would be the first time I've seen a study like this. I'll have to look it up. You and I are obviously defining Christian differently. Each sect can point to the bible and show why their brand of Christianity is the right one and the others are not really Christians. Most people in this country define themselves as Christian.
@sulljoh1 yes i agree i think we are defining christians differently.. also i am from canada and i see christianity as something very differently then in the states. in the states its almost like a universally acepted religion or image. Here in canada we dont have national faith, thus a christian is dedicated to their faith very deeply and what makes one a christian is different. A person who goes to church once in a while and believes in God, is not enough to be called a christian.
@BigG99 Christianity would be more appealing if it was an oppressed minority like Jesus and the early church fathers were. What would Jesus think of the palace of the Vatican I wonder.
BTW a note to my fellow non-believers on here: STOP FLAGGING COMMENTS YOU DISAGREE WITH AS SPAM! We are supposed to be the open minded free thinkers here.
@sulljoh1 I agree.. in many nations however christianity is an opressed minority. did you know that in the seventies iran killed 40 000 christians in one year? in north america we are spoiled.
@BigG99 Are you talking about the 1979 Iranian Revolution? I know the big picture but not the details there. I know it seems harsh to think of 40,000 as a detail, but Saddam killed over a million Iranian Muslims. Anyway Christians and Muslims have been killing each other for thousands of years. I meant pre-Constantine oppression.
@AtheistEvolution Modern Christianity dosn't stone people in the streets for "committing adultery" or throw people off of rooftops for being gay. So yeah, I would say Christianity is a hell of a lot better.
@AtheistEvolution but you see, all of this is said in the context where Muslims are in contensious situation with the west.. Syaing anything about christianity will not matter or cause discrimination..SIngling out a religion that may not alwyas manifest into such extermism invites bigotted and discriminatory behaviour towards them,,,In some sense Ayaan Hirsi Ali is justifying the mistreatment of Muslims in America...I do not think the Islam AHA is suggesting is representative of all Muslims...
no its not, she lied a lot about her earlier life, she has been caught lying numerous times about islam and her real life, she lied to get her career where it is now, she lied to gain success, ayaan is spreading hate because she has said numerous times to kill and persecute muslims, and promotes hatred and fear of muslims, yes this would be called spreading hatred or shall i bring you a dictionary
@CaligirlSofia If you have proof she lied, please share with specifics. I admit I can be too sarcastic, and I don't hate Muslims, but I do believe organized religion is inherently dangerous as it has as one of its aims the subjugation of rational thought in the name of strict obedience to someone who may be fictional.
did i say israel was behind it? did i? now tell me why u assumed this please
i just dont believe 9/11 was done in the name of religion because they hated the freedom of america, this is absolutely bs , i think a better more believeable lie could have been told
@CaligirlSofia Wilders is alive, I'm sorry, I was thinking of Van Gogh. I think 9/11 was certainly done in the name of religion. I thought I saw something on your profile that implied you think 9/11 was a con job. I thought that was an insult ot those who died. Sorry if I mispoke.
its not an insult to people who died to figure out who really did it, how the heck is that an insult? no one said 9/11 never happened, simply that some 19 muslim hijackers destroyed it in the name of religion because they hated your freedom is an absurd story and there should be more investigating into it, even the ppl who investigated said they were not given enough funds to full do the work right
@CaligirlSofia Care to show any references for her "Lies"? Otherwise we can dismiss you as easily as your insults. The things that she speaks of are reported as happening all over the muslim world to many other people to. Are they all liars too?
well for one she exaggerates or distorts things, also she blames everything on islam, when a lot of things she blames islam for happen for political or cultural reasons, she generalizes, and she lies about islam and muslims, she tells ppl that muslims in america hate america and are out to undermine it, this is a lie and makes her a fascist
@CaligirlSofia So you have no references. Only opinion. How do YOU know which of her OWN experiences she exaggerates? Do you have references of just opinion?
Even if saying that Muslims hate America was a lie, it doesn't make her a fascist. How would telling a lie make her a person who is trying to further corporatist gains? What a strange thing to say. She seems to be trying to AVOID violence, and fascism calls for violence as a means to an end. It seems like you have only opinion
It takes a great deal more faith to believe in an accidental universe than to believe in an intelligent creator, or God who crafted such a marvelous universe and beautiful place of habitation in planet Earth, and then created life (including human beings) to occupy it.
"Why *didn't* you expect me to join the American Enterprise Institute"
I'm no fan of AEI myself, but that teenager was in a little bit over his head. Nice one Ayaan, had him running back to the childish intellectual position of "I've heard a lot of things about it." What a dickhead.
Karima Belhaj and Miriyam Aouragh are directors of the largest womens shelter in Amsterdam. They scoff at the idea that Hirsi Ali is a champion of oppressed Muslim women. She has never fought for the oppressed. In fact, shes done the opposite. She uses these problems as a cover to attack Islam. She insults me and she makes my life as a feminist ten times harder because she forces me to be associated with anti-Muslim attacks,Aouragh said.
She is now a toilet cleaner at the american enterprise institute. Dick Cheney is the cleaning boss there.Poor thing, got kicked out of her job at the Dutch parliament for fraud now cleaning toilets for Dick.
Female circumcision has nothing to do with Islam it is from tribal African culture. There is 50,000 rapes in the UK every year. Is it right to say all Christians are rapists? It is people that do good and bad deeds not religion. Europe is deserting religion like it is a plague, yet one person allegedly an ex-Muslim, deserts Islam and godless atheists cant stop panting and salivating.
What you failed to say was. There is 50,000 rapes in the UK every year committed by Muslims.
The UK is nice enough not to list criminals by their religion. If they did, people might be shocked as how many of those criminals are Muslims. But hey ? Not all Muslims are rapists.
Female circumcision has nothing to do with Islam. True. But it is mostly Muslims who still carry it out.
you say that religion does not do harm, only people do. you thereby hideously slander your palestinian comrades who, continuing to this day, are being forced off their diminishing land in the West Bank and Gaza by fanatical, ultra-orthodox jews.
why do they do this? its quite simple: they believe that the whole of the land, not just part of it, was given to them by GOD. Their holy book is full of Israelites expelling others (canaanites, etc) from the land.
Her credibility is low for she is a member of the American Enterprise Institute which is a NEOCON thinktank,which has Dick Chenneys wife high up in the ranks.This thinktank lobbied the Iraq war and do what ever they can to spread fear and hate and she is part of it.
We can critisize alot within Islam or any religion for that mater, but give in to fear and hate propoganda is just wrong.
This mask that she hides behind of "wonder woman defender of all women" is laughable.
It is your credibility that is low and it is you that have been brainwashed by ultra-leftist propaganda. Do you miss Sadam, are there tears on your pillow every night over his fate?
All religions should be criticized, ridiculed, feared and hated, especially islam. All Ayaan has done was to expose the degrading treatment of women because of the tenets of that filthy religion, islam. What the hell is wrong with that?
I find your lack of intellectual acumen disturbing. Is ultra-liberalism and multiculturalism impeding your ability to think rationally or is it just too many punches to the head?
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people give respect to those who have money and ayan is one of them but allaah knows best she will be judged one day by allaah and i know she is confused wright now what ever she is for sure she did this for money but she for get that she will leave it behind the money and go all alone in to the grave would that time the money the fame would help her for sure no think about that before u say and of coz if there is nothing can beat death why would i not be afraid of allaah
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Some building as PNAC, a sister think thank that is morally bankrupt. PNAC blueprints call for bioweapons which could be useful in targeting specific genotypes. These guys also asked for a new Pearl Harbor which 9/11 certainly provided to justify their hunger for building the new american ce
@Philosophydebater ... hahaha... You're correct. I've never seen somebody put so much effort into being a Youtube troll. Well, I supposed when you're a complete moron, (like vandytorch,) you have to find some way to spew your stupidity to the world. Why not Youtube?
Huntington12345678 4 months ago
Anders Behring Breivik, Norwegian mass murderer and right-wing extremist, was not acting under any orders from a priest, or a "Christian cell", but from the screaming hate and vitriol poured out by the likes of AYAAN and HER NASTY & MISCHIEVOUS FRIENDS against the Left and Muslims.
The caricature and fear are spread as diligently by the Christian extremists as they are by militant atheists such as Ayaan.
fromwilliams 4 months ago
what kind of fucking clip is this supposed to be? the kid with the question could barely articulate it, and the clip was cut before the answer was given...if that's your idea of a smackdown, then the bar for smackdowns must be set shockingly low wherever it is you reside.
dubcrisis 4 months ago
hahahaha...loser
coleta36 5 months ago
"i dont know ugh i dont even really understand what im talking about or what it is or why i think its bad but ugh yeah.."
nice premise
scar504 5 months ago
can't hear a thing
WalterLiddy 6 months ago
Anders Behring Breivik, Norwegian psychopathic killer, mass murderer and right-wing extremist, in his 1,500-page manifesto, makes several complimentary references to Ayaan.
“enough said…”
fromwilliams 6 months ago
@fromwilliams Anders Behring Breivik was also a great admirer of Al Queda and their violent tactics. "Enough said."
mucalinda 5 months ago
@fromwilliams "enough said"? Only in your world.
If we went and disregarded anybody who has ever been referenced and/or complimented by some psychopathic mass murderer we would have to start with the religions, all of them, and work our way through all sciences and politics until we are back in caves.
That some idiot gets inspired to kill people does not mean anything. If you can provide a quote where she openly advocates murder, we can talk. Until then, STFU
PeterK1984 5 months ago
Ayaan was forced to resign as a digraced Dutch MP and announced her departure for the US. She has proven to be a rampant opportunist who succesfully seduced soft-in-the-head Dutch liberals with lies and divisive posturing before shitting on them and joining her right-wing, neo-liberal compatriots in the US, the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). They exploited her predicament to forward their Neocon anti-Islamic/war agenda. In turn she has to carry water for them.
fromwilliams 6 months ago
@fromwilliams Educate yourself about why she left the Dutch parliament. She came to the country under false pretense claiming political prosecution when she was in fact forced into an oppressive marriage (which is just as bad but not covered by the law).
When she became to influential a right wing politician used that falsely granted asylum to get her removed from the country.
Her departure was disgraceful. It was a disgraceful plot by some opportunist politician to get her out of the way
PeterK1984 5 months ago
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• We were lied into the Iraq War by Israel Lobby neocons on behalf of Israel and now they are pushing for war with Iran, also for Israeli expansionism. Saddam was no threat to us and neither is Iran. Currently these same warmongers are stirring up anti-Muslim hatred, opposing mosques, etc, in preparation for war with Iran. The answer of course is Middle East peace but that's the last thing these settlement-expanders want. Meanwhile the U.S goes bankrupt with all these unnecessary wars.
fromwilliams 7 months ago
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I think it may also prove helpful to some of the viewers here to try to evaluate many of the more strident claims of the anti-theist critique ("brights") from a ideological/ metaphysics perspective. Check out the recent article by Jackson Lears in the May 16, 2011 issue of the The Nation entitled "Same Old New Atheism" .The article offers a compelling analysis of Sam Harris' works. Consideration is given to general secular social perspectives
shieldsff 7 months ago
Ayaan has fooled and hoodwinked whites. Mercenaries like Ayaan would sell their own families for money. She is far more disgusting and despicable than her fellow countryman Somalian pirates.
In the words of Katrina Fox, editor-in-chief, The Scavenger:
“….( Ayaan) she’s a narrow-minded bigot scarred by her own experiences who has been seduced by right-wing westerners to become a popular mouthpiece for their racist agendas.”
fromwilliams 7 months ago
The practice of female circumcision dates to the time of the pharoahs in Egypt and practiced mainly in Sub-Saharan Africa.
★FGM IS NOT ISLAMIC !!!!!
Ayaan’s definition is so narrowly extremist, that she dumps forced marriage,honour killings (domestic violence), FGM, terrorism & other un-Islamic practices in the “Islam” category.
As Dr. Stephen R. Covey said, "seek to understand before being understood."
fromwilliams 7 months ago
@fromwilliams: Yes, FGM indeed extends beyond the bounds of Islamic tradition and institutional practice, but it still occurs within those bounds, something that Ayaan rightly acknowledges. In this regard, Stephen R. Covey is correct when he states that “[a]ccountability breeds response-ability.”
yarafeld 7 months ago
@yarafeld
FGM is cultural that derives from pre-Islamic practices and in some cases resemble those of Eastern Cushitic-speaking peoples...something that people will hold onto regardless of their religion.Its a battle..one minute you will think you've had a breakthrough the next minute an FGM girl appears in the media.Maasai,samburus,boranas,somalis,the central regions in kenya some bantuspeaking people of that region,its a battle against culture and far less of religion.
fromwilliams 7 months ago
@fromwilliams: Yes, FGM is a cultural phenomenon that cannot be fully understood solely within the confines of religion, but this does not negate the fact that Islam still informs the ideological bent associated with removing women's clitorises. Of all the religious proclivities discernable in modern society, FGM is most connected to this particular religion. I acknowledge that by ONLY looking at Islam, one risks obscuring what it takes to tackle FGM, but we must still look at Islam proper.
yarafeld 7 months ago
@fromwilliams Disgusting buffoon.
GluttonForSex 7 months ago
@GluttonForSex
that's mature
fromwilliams 7 months ago
@fromwilliams You are correct about the origin of FGM. But in the 21st century FGM is practised almost exclusively in Saharan Africa and these countries are Islamic.
It is a susperstitious, barbaric pratice that needs to be eradicated - the only people who could do this are the Imams - but they appear to be reluctant, why?
la2111 7 months ago 4
@la2111
there are many initiatives and programs underway to end this cultural practice.
fromwilliams 7 months ago
Her voice sounds pretty nice.
cool, calm and collected is how she sounds.
OyonTheAdept 7 months ago
if you're looking for a verbal smackdown, check out christopher hitchens.
alex61761 9 months ago
wow what stupid question. i guess ,sort of ,i think duh
7t6e354r 9 months ago
she been choose by your criminals department to engage the religiouse peoples to
each others and than have a kingdoms of Athiest.......
strangerlover11 10 months ago
Have you guys read what the bible says about non believers? ignorant peasants and hypocrites each and every one of you. Well it's a far worse fate then that described in the quran. Hirsi is obviously a derranged islamophope on a payroll with PROVEN zionist backing..she's admitted it openly in interviews. The gas chambers are over for jews they are building new ones for muslims and the architects this time are the likes of Hirsi and you!
nicetan01 11 months ago
@nicetan01
I know what it says. I also know it says Christians are to love them and reach out to them. Other than that their fate is in god's hands. For it is not the Christians' role to pass judgment on each other, that is their gods realm.
Sounds like a pretty sound theological principle.
jetrpg22 10 months ago
Ayaan's repeated bitter attacks on the character, personal & professional life of Muslims is not only appalling but madness.
Her anti-Muslim rants & rhetoric only serve to advance her own agenda.Anyone that supports her agenda is also mad. Ayaan, you are a morally corrupt, serious grub & a juvenile scammer.
Your derogatory remarks, hoax, deceit, delusion, misrepresentation & exploitation of Muslims, glowing innacuracies only expose you for the career con artist & literary hoaxer you are.
fromwilliams 11 months ago
@fromwilliams
What about the immoral teachings in Islam? You know, the disrespect for non-Muslims, the homophobia and et cetera?
Mattyb88ful 11 months ago
The final judgment of all humanity lies in the hands of the One Almighty, their Creator, to whom we all return (22:68-69), (42:15).God loves justice and those who strive to practice it, especially toward people who are different from them in any way, particularly in religious belief (5:8), (60:8).
fromwilliams 11 months ago
@fromwilliams
Yeah, the Muslim god really loves non-Muslims: "Non-Muslims will enter hell with frantic with fear, knowing they will be tortured forever by Allah." 70:36, 44
Mattyb88ful 11 months ago
@Mattyb88ful
You need to reach out to proper sources of understanding Islam and Islamic terminology, and not only will you not feel abused but appreciate Islam in the proper perspective.
fromwilliams 11 months ago
@fromwilliams You, Moe and Islam, are wrong, wrong, wrong.
356pla 9 months ago
Mohammed loved to sodomize pigs.
nemirn 1 year ago
You couldn't include enough of the clip for her to answer the question? It would have been more of a smack down if she'd told the twerp to specify what his problem was or ignored him.
equsnarnd 1 year ago
man you crazy hehe
ibbyny 1 year ago
always liers and decievers like this lady insult Islam
Puresomalilander 1 year ago
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@Puresomalilander hmm that weird
"liers and decievers like this lady insult Islam"
insulting does not mean to lie or to deceive
Serpico261 1 year ago
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Ayaan's repeated bitter attacks on the character, personal & professional life of Muslims is not only appalling but madness.
Her anti-Muslim rants & rhetoric only serve to advance her own agenda.Anyone that supports her agenda is also mad. Ayaan, you are a morally corrupt, serious grub & a juvenile scammer.
Your derogatory remarks, hoax, deceit, delusion, misrepresentation & exploitation of Muslims, glowing innacuracies only expose you for the career con artist & literary hoaxer you are.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
she is brilliant, and a voice of reason, despite threats on her life...
gergsar 1 year ago
Ayaan Ali Hirsi is devasting to the cause of the Islamic Brotherhood and their ilk because she experienced their horrific behavior from the inside. Assail her all you want, but her credentials on these matters are undeniable.
spitfire71068 1 year ago
Ayan Hirsi Ali is an Illuminati plant
jgirl76 1 year ago
Ayaan is a useful idiot ruse for disguising the age-old campaign of capitalist conquest of resources with polarizing politics of religious antagonism and extremism.
She is one of many hacks, tools, used as an auxiliary by the Islamophobic neo-cons such as the American Enterprise Institiute, to transmit their hatred against Muslims and spread the war on the next state in American-Israeli cross-hairs. Wakey...wakey
fromwilliams 1 year ago
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Ayaan preaches hateful, reactionary and an extremely popular view through a career based upon insipid, unreliable, hysterical and extremely profitable demonizing of a faith path that fits in nicely with the anti-Arab and muslim agenda of nations seeking to avoid their own critical self-analysis while unjustly and idiotically stereotyping and mass marketing muslims as to blame for all the ailments in the World. Wakey wakey.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
fromwilliams thinks the U.S army is the biggest killer on earth. At the beginning of the Afghan war the Taliban executed 15,000 Shia Muslims in one day. When the U.S invaded Iraq in 93 Muslims targeted the 70,000 Mandaeasts population for extinction leaving only 5000 of them left fleeing to Iran. Muslims use the war as an excuse for genocide and rack the numbers up to civilian casualties.
Allahpeanutbuttersan 1 year ago
IT’S HOW IT'S PRACTICED THAT IMPACTS ON PEOPLE’S LIVES AND ON SOCIETY. VILIFYING AN ENTIRE RELIGION OR PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THAT RELIGION IS NOT THE WAY TO CREATE A HARMONIOUS SOCIETY - AS HISTORY HAS SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams and when the people practicing refuse to integrate into a harmonious society because it is against their religion that causes problems as well.
NON secular states and REMOVING religion from anything but beliefs is harmonious and that's what she's about.
Not that muslim = bad just that elements are not harmonious with a democratic society similar to how the Bible's first testament is now widely disregarded because it is a violent book.
cpaler 1 year ago
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@fromwilliams and when the people practicing refuse to integrate into a harmonious society because it is against their religion that causes problems as well.
NON secular states and REMOVING religion from anything but beliefs is harmonious and that's what she's about.
Not that muslim = bad just that elements are not harmonious with a democratic society similar to how the Bible's first testament is now widely disregarded because it is a violent book.
cpaler 1 year ago
@fromwilliams Islam and Muslims are two different things. Islam, as a collection of ideas, beliefs, rules, and practices, is incorrect, immoral, and destructive. Now, Muslims are like everyone else: Some Muslims are evil, some are good people, most are somewhere in between. There are 1.4 billion Muslims and they are all individuals. However, there is only 1 Islam and it can be vilified.
Vincentaneous 1 year ago
Why isn’t Ayan Hirshe debating with Somalia Muslim like me REERXAMAR could it be they know what she is and what she was .is it because western are paying her money to demonize Muslim. let is debate with your country men or women then you will to know her the real Ayan Hirshe……….if want hear bull shit the keep it that way.. why alway talk about sauid arabia why not direct to somali we do know you what you are....ahahahaha LAIR LAIR
sheekoxarir 1 year ago
Nice selective editing.
quixoto 1 year ago
Keith Ellison, US Congressman (D-MN), Capitol Hill, (09 October 2010):
“The non-Muslim experts – Robert Spencer (leading anti-Muslim advocate in the Park51 Project controversy), Ayaan Hirsi Ali (prolific anti-Muslim writer), and Franklin Graham (said Islam “is a very evil and wicked religion”) – are well known, even famous, for spewing anti-Muslim hate”.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams and ALL the names you mention are admired/respect by the vast majority in the west...those who, unlike you, find oppression/denial of human rights/degradation of females and the SICKNESS of the 'hoax' of islam to be repulsive
these people have morals/values .....but muslims who SUPPORT what islam is,does & causes show how devoid they are of any integrity whatsoever
proudfemale 1 year ago
3) Can anyone say what she has actually done in pragmatic terms for Muslim women in general and Somalian women in particular?
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams
LOL You pick around trying to find little flaws with her. You cannot deny the fact that islam is a backwards religion created by a mass murdering pedohpile and trash like this is cruel, sadistic and NOT merciful as islam claims!
22.19: As for the unbelievers, for them garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skins shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods.
allahBurpsCum 1 year ago
2) She has no concern for Muslims who are being killed by the U.S military, currently the most prolific killer on earth. White Christian Americans are never asked why they dont condemn the Iraq occupation that has cost nearly 1 million lives. They arent asked to condemn racism, warfare, torture,or sexism.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
1) Mainstream moderate Muslims are right in front of you, speaking all the time, advancing a Muslim vision of mercy and cooperation. It's time people added their voices to moderates, instead of amplifying the message of extremists.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
Bigot - a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance. Synonyms: dogmatist, dogmatizer.
The person is Ayaan & she is intolerant of Muslims. Ayaan is 100% a bigot dogmatizer.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams
Its okay to be bigot if you have good reasons for it - and she has them
luarionte 1 year ago
It's time for Atheist to stand up, put on the armor of reason, and carry the fight into the light of day. The Muslims are demanded in every verse of the Koran to either kill Atheist or impede or progress for equal justice!!!!!!!!!!
apollomiami83 1 year ago
i cant hear the question.
8thArmada 1 year ago
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As a liberal,I think that while Ayaan's story was sad & tragic (I read the book and sympathize with her),her portrayal of Islam is unfair,it needs to be understood that this version of islam is her subjective view.The verses that are quoted in 'submission' are taken out of context. This does happen in some contexts within families who claim to be practicing Islam,but in fact there is a lot of tradition that is mixed within this,& it is not true Islam.Read about Islam.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
I just finished Infidel. It's amazing and I recommend it to anyone who misunderstands Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance (like I did).
sydneyrodriguez 1 year ago
@sydneyrodriguez don
t jusdge 1.3 billion people based on one woman's view.... A lot of homosexuals get illtreated in America becuase of catholics...
Islam is not the only fascist and sexist religion....She's really being unfair..
dipticheerath 1 year ago
@dipticheerath "Islam is not the only fascist and sexist religion" Indeed, in fact Judeochristianity's criminal record and depredations, since it's been around so much longer, historically vastly outnumber Islam's. But Islam is the religion whose fascism, sexism and glorification of violence wreaks the most havoc in the world today...upon its own people.
Quran 9:5: Fight and kill the disbelievers.
fctchk 1 year ago
@dipticheerath Probably not, but that's the religion that's running around massacring people. The Christians did that as a large organized force hundreds of years ago. Islam is doing it now.
ponyboy314 1 year ago
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I have listened to this asshole Ayaan and she does not speak for anyone except for the neocons like bush and rush limbaugh and THE NEOCON NETWORK FOX. She stays on because she speaks for there anti Muslim views. She is a vile asshole.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
hmm bit dissappointing as an example of a verbal smackdown..
PlanetBongoSan 1 year ago 35
YOU GO HIRSI! I (WE) ALWAYS ON YOUR SIDE. LONG LIVE HIRSI!
Best Regard from indonesia
calciumkid85 1 year ago
@calciumkid85
stfu
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
Atheist Ayaan is proof that freedom to lie has replaced freedom of speech.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams and you're an imbecile. well, fair enough...
if you can show any islamist who never lied please, ill bring you to the moon
calciumkid85 1 year ago
@calciumkid85
Ayaan,Im really not sure what your credentials as an Islamic scholar are, beyond the fact that you are an alleged Muslim-turned-atheist and have aligned yourself with the ideals of American conservatism. Moderate Muslims are all around us. At least they are all around me, every single day. Perhaps Ms. Ali needs to open her eyes a bit wider, get out more,be a bit more observant. Wakey wakey.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams Moderate theists are just as ignorant as extremists. And the moderates allow the extremists to thrive. All religions MUST be swept away from the face of the Earth.
fuckthedumb1 1 year ago
@fuckthedumb1
Trolling and spewing rhetorical nonsense is pointless unless you have something of value to add or start a constructive discussion.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams I've read through your posts. And you're calling me a troll. All you do is attack Ayaan, you're the troll. Your BS is certainly nonsensical. Ayaan is probably more liberal-leaning than conservative btw. You're an imbecile. Islam is so repressive of women. I dislike all religions, but Islam is the worst and most dangerous. Get a clue.
fuckthedumb1 1 year ago
@fuckthedumb1
so basically kill everyone who isnt you, wow your such a loving person
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia I said nothing about killing people. I said religions must go. If you don't think this planet would be more peaceful without religions, you need to study history and current events a bit more.
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@fromwilliams i mean yeah, she only had her clitoris cut off, death threats aimed at her in song, and literally a death threat note pinned w/ a knife to the chest of a colleague, had to receive government protection from Muslims for years, escaped from a county steeped in Sharia law that condones killing of fornicators, gays, defectors and pretty much "infidels" of any type. so yeah, w/ all the FIRST HAND experience she's had..she needs to open her eyes, get out more, and observe more. Go you!
abrahambivins 1 year ago 60
@abrahambivins of course the mouth-breathing fromwilliams has nothing to say to this.. most likely has to resort to claiming that's "all fabricated" and "zionist" something or other. don't waste your time balancing evidence versus interest with mental midgets - they don't get it.
TheGreatReprobate 10 months ago
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Ayaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute. If you go there ask for the pimp, his name is Dick Cheney. Just present your atheist discount card.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
Ayaan,Im really not sure what your credentials as an Islamic scholar are, beyond the fact that you are an alleged Muslim-turned-atheist and have aligned yourself with the ideals of American conservatism. Moderate Muslims are all around us. At least they are all around me, every single day. Perhaps Ms. Ali needs to open her eyes a bit wider, get out more,be a bit more observant. Wakey wakey.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams Right. A courageous woman who survived some of the worst things that Islam and East-African tribalism can offer, who has first-hand witnessed the formation of groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, who has seen the effects of Islam on society and on women in at least a half-dozen countries... needs to "get out more?" Needs to "open her eyes?" Your ignorance should shame you to silence, sir. It's a pity for the rest of us that it doesn't.
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@Luchiadh
Ayaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute. If you go there ask for the pimp, his name is DICK Cheney. Just present your atheist discount card.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
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Atheist Ayaan is obscene and insensitive. She contributes to division not progression.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
Suzig, no one wants to read the story of a lost clitoris. You wanna fetch go and find from Somalia and put in her lost and found box. she might pay you with some of her infidel book money.
saxweeyaan 1 year ago
This is your idea of a verbal "smackdown"? You don't get out much do you.
OscarLimaMike 1 year ago
She is coward we all must respect each others religion, if she is hired to insult Islam. that tells me she is cheapkkkkkkk
saxweeyaan 1 year ago
@saxweeyaan I don;t have to respect anyone's religion you fascist prick.
TheGnarfield 1 year ago
@saxweeyaan I respect the respectable. And this woman is an amazing person. Strong intelligent and thoughtful. I think it is pathetic and cowardly that many ignorant so called Islamic males are afraid of their women. Grow some balls or better yet a brain to go with them.
OscarLimaMike 1 year ago
@saxweeyaan Religion deserves no respect at all, because 1) it offers no respect at all and 2) it offers no evidence at all.
God/Allah was created by humans. Not the other way around.
GluttonForSex 1 year ago
@saxweeyaan "We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart." - H. L. Mencken
Luchiadh 1 year ago
@Luchiadh
Ayaan preaches hateful, reactionary and an extremely popular view through a career based upon insipid, unreliable, hysterical and extremely profitable demonizing of a faith path that fits in nicely with the anti-Arab and muslim agenda of nations seeking to avoid their own critical self-analysis while unjustly and idiotically stereotyping and mass marketing muslims as to blame for all the ailments in the World.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams Right. You're a crackpot. No more feeding the trolls.
Luchiadh 1 year ago
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@Luchiadh
Ayaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute. If you go there ask for the pimp, his name is DICK Cheney. Oh, I just remembered Dick is on his death bed. Anyway, just present your atheist discount card.
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@Luchiadh
Ayaaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute. If you go there ask for the pimp, his name is DICK Cheney. Oh, I just remembered Dick is on his death bed. Anyway, just present your atheist discount card.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
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@Luchiadh
Ayaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute. If you go there ask for the pimp, his name is Dick Cheney. Oh, I just remembered Dick is on his death bed. Anyway, just present your atheist discount card.
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@Luchiadh
Ayaan is a whore and is the mistress of married man Mr Niall Ferguson. She has no moral compass and will bed anyone for some money. She works at the brothel called the American Enterprise Institute.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@Luchiadh
The second most popular graduation gift for young women across the United states in 2008 was elective breast augmentation surgery, commonly known as a boob job. Now that shows the depth and breadth of the type of young women we are developing here at home.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@Luchiadh
I can tell you that the beauty of the Islamic faith and the character development of muslim women and girls is in the main, in its depth and inner beauty, and development of Love as an art and a life force--far beyond the alphagirlism of the USA and wannabe vicious selfish and lame alphagirl Islamic rejects like Atheist Ayaan.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
She is amazing. Being bright and being courageous apparently are bad things in the eyes of religious nutjobs. It's odd how they claim to represent the highest of the high, and in practice, always seem to embody the lowest of the low.
GluttonForSex 1 year ago
@GluttonForSex You forgot beautiful!
reefpirate 1 year ago
@GluttonForSex couldn't agree more the only part of Islam that interests me is Sufiism and of course the poetry of Jalaladin Rumi
OscarLimaMike 1 year ago
Modern day Esther! More power to yah Ayaan!
jillera76 1 year ago
Israel and Netanyahu,
why did you pull out of the U.S. nuclear summit??
shame shame shame
fromwilliams 1 year ago
@fromwilliams Bit confused here, you say Israel has 200+ nuclear bombs and it wants to dominate the region - why doesn't it use them? Why do you say it's one of the most DANGEROUS [sic] nations on earth? All I see is that it's protecting what it thinks are it's borders. I'm not aware of it sending bombers into surrounding countries. With all those missiles, you'd think it would blast a 20 mile clear zone around itself. Why doesn't it do that?
gov1683 1 year ago
@gov1683 That's some terrible counter-logic, bro. Israel is a conglomeration of Zionist bullies backed by the Western world because we felt bad about WWII. It doesn't drop bombs because we say so. Palestine has every reason to gripe, as much as any other oppressed minority.
You also show poor understanding of nuclear ballistics. "20 mile clear zone"? Where? How? baby nukes, perhaps? You make no sense.
JayLeePoe 1 year ago
Go Israel go :)
Toughndeadly 1 year ago
That kid is a dick head , he must be a christian.
adlerbr12 1 year ago
I'm a bit surprised that she is involved with those nuts myself. AEI. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
ctvwr 1 year ago
The fantasy involves a domino theory. The destruction of Saddam's Iraq to remove an enemy of long-standing but also to change the basic power equation in the region. To send a msg to Syria and Iran about the perils of support for Islamic terrorists. To send a Msg to the Palestinians too: Democratize and make peace on Israeli terms, or forget about a state of your own.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
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Any deal must include disarming Israel which has 200-400 NUCLEAR bombs and is one of the most DANGEROUS nations on earth. It has evaded many opportunities for a just peace because it's secret agenda is to DOMINATE the region. The atheist Zionists who rule Israel and the Zionists in America have tricked the U.S. into a Mideast war.
fromwilliams 1 year ago
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Alimaddad 2 years ago
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"I have done shits in the toilet that are more intelligent than Ayaan"
- Anonymous.
fromwilliams 2 years ago
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The only reason AEI works with her is because she's good at spreading hate. She's better than religion in that regard.
lionchamp777 2 years ago
How can recounting her terrible experiences as a woman of Islam be considered "spreading hate"?
Is it because her experiences are embarrassing to muslims, and that puts her in the category of anyone who speaks out against this terrible religion? (Not that Christianity is any better)
Peace
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lionchamp777 2 years ago
@AtheistEvolution lecture me wants u get some real and open minded info about islam.
tumsamusa12 1 year ago
@tumsamusa12 there is no such thing as "open minded" information. Only accurate and inaccurate. Since my information comes from the Quran and from sharia law, I figure that it is pretty accurate. Plus Ayan Hirsi Ali has no reason to lie. Correction, she has EVERY reason to lie to save her life from the Muslims that she is exposing as hateful, just to save her life. BUT courageously she chooses to tell the truth.
AtheistEvolution 1 year ago
@AtheistEvolution actually christianity is much better... dont event think for a second that they compare at all to eachother!!! did you know 60 percent of all charity work and social help in north america is christian based organizations? seems to me there is a very important trend there.
BigG99 1 year ago
@BigG99 But 80 or 90% of America in Christian. I know many non-Christians and even atheists who do charity work and give money. How much charity is done per capita by Christians?
Atheists commit less crimes, have better family lives and get fewer abortions than believers. Weird if morals are supposed to come from God, right?
sulljoh1 1 year ago
ok so first off, no 80 percent of america is not christian. do you know how they got that stat? not by biblical standards but by social norms... not an accurate picture. and as for less crimes, and better family lives stat, you must be looney, i have never seen stats for that argument. in fact its usually the contrary. the only thing that we are even on is divorce. america has such a twisted view on christianity. its more of a poilitical and social norm then a faith at all. be more worldy.
BigG99 1 year ago
@BigG99 Be more worldly? Seriously look up the data. I have never seen a study where nonbelievers commit more crime, have more abortions, have more teens getting pregnant, etc. Proper studies always, always, always, go the other way. If you want to reduce abortions in America then convert everybody to atheism.
sulljoh1 1 year ago
@sulljoh1 thats the most rediculous thing i have ever heard.. Alan Guttmacher Institute reported in 2001-JUL that 37.4% of all abortions are performed on Protestant women. the rest on people of other faiths or, yes atheists. and only 18% of those were born again christians. thats only 6 percent of total abortions. , i dont understand where you got your stat from, christians are the minority.being christian doesnt make a person perfect. apparently some christians make mistakes just like you!
BigG99 1 year ago
@BigG99 This would be the first time I've seen a study like this. I'll have to look it up. You and I are obviously defining Christian differently. Each sect can point to the bible and show why their brand of Christianity is the right one and the others are not really Christians. Most people in this country define themselves as Christian.
sulljoh1 1 year ago
@sulljoh1 yes i agree i think we are defining christians differently.. also i am from canada and i see christianity as something very differently then in the states. in the states its almost like a universally acepted religion or image. Here in canada we dont have national faith, thus a christian is dedicated to their faith very deeply and what makes one a christian is different. A person who goes to church once in a while and believes in God, is not enough to be called a christian.
BigG99 1 year ago
@BigG99 Christianity would be more appealing if it was an oppressed minority like Jesus and the early church fathers were. What would Jesus think of the palace of the Vatican I wonder.
BTW a note to my fellow non-believers on here: STOP FLAGGING COMMENTS YOU DISAGREE WITH AS SPAM! We are supposed to be the open minded free thinkers here.
sulljoh1 1 year ago
@sulljoh1 I agree.. in many nations however christianity is an opressed minority. did you know that in the seventies iran killed 40 000 christians in one year? in north america we are spoiled.
BigG99 1 year ago
@BigG99 Are you talking about the 1979 Iranian Revolution? I know the big picture but not the details there. I know it seems harsh to think of 40,000 as a detail, but Saddam killed over a million Iranian Muslims. Anyway Christians and Muslims have been killing each other for thousands of years. I meant pre-Constantine oppression.
sulljoh1 1 year ago
@AtheistEvolution I basically always despise religion (i'm atheist by the way) but islam is the worst of all
calciumkid85 1 year ago
@AtheistEvolution Modern Christianity dosn't stone people in the streets for "committing adultery" or throw people off of rooftops for being gay. So yeah, I would say Christianity is a hell of a lot better.
kittycatcarley 1 year ago
@kittycatcarley reformed, sure it is. i guess it only takes a few hundred years to forget. :)
samita808 1 year ago
@AtheistEvolution but you see, all of this is said in the context where Muslims are in contensious situation with the west.. Syaing anything about christianity will not matter or cause discrimination..SIngling out a religion that may not alwyas manifest into such extermism invites bigotted and discriminatory behaviour towards them,,,In some sense Ayaan Hirsi Ali is justifying the mistreatment of Muslims in America...I do not think the Islam AHA is suggesting is representative of all Muslims...
dipticheerath 1 year ago
@AtheistEvolution
no its not, she lied a lot about her earlier life, she has been caught lying numerous times about islam and her real life, she lied to get her career where it is now, she lied to gain success, ayaan is spreading hate because she has said numerous times to kill and persecute muslims, and promotes hatred and fear of muslims, yes this would be called spreading hatred or shall i bring you a dictionary
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia If you have proof she lied, please share with specifics. I admit I can be too sarcastic, and I don't hate Muslims, but I do believe organized religion is inherently dangerous as it has as one of its aims the subjugation of rational thought in the name of strict obedience to someone who may be fictional.
rubiconsedge 1 year ago 6
@rubiconsedge
well message me and i will send them, they are way too much to put in a little comment
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rubiconsedge 1 year ago
@rubiconsedge
geert wilders wasnt murder, wtf?
did i say israel was behind it? did i? now tell me why u assumed this please
i just dont believe 9/11 was done in the name of religion because they hated the freedom of america, this is absolutely bs , i think a better more believeable lie could have been told
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia Wilders is alive, I'm sorry, I was thinking of Van Gogh. I think 9/11 was certainly done in the name of religion. I thought I saw something on your profile that implied you think 9/11 was a con job. I thought that was an insult ot those who died. Sorry if I mispoke.
rubiconsedge 1 year ago
@rubiconsedge
its not an insult to people who died to figure out who really did it, how the heck is that an insult? no one said 9/11 never happened, simply that some 19 muslim hijackers destroyed it in the name of religion because they hated your freedom is an absurd story and there should be more investigating into it, even the ppl who investigated said they were not given enough funds to full do the work right
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia Care to show any references for her "Lies"? Otherwise we can dismiss you as easily as your insults. The things that she speaks of are reported as happening all over the muslim world to many other people to. Are they all liars too?
AtheistEvolution 1 year ago
@AtheistEvolution
well for one she exaggerates or distorts things, also she blames everything on islam, when a lot of things she blames islam for happen for political or cultural reasons, she generalizes, and she lies about islam and muslims, she tells ppl that muslims in america hate america and are out to undermine it, this is a lie and makes her a fascist
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
@CaligirlSofia So you have no references. Only opinion. How do YOU know which of her OWN experiences she exaggerates? Do you have references of just opinion?
Even if saying that Muslims hate America was a lie, it doesn't make her a fascist. How would telling a lie make her a person who is trying to further corporatist gains? What a strange thing to say. She seems to be trying to AVOID violence, and fascism calls for violence as a means to an end. It seems like you have only opinion
AtheistEvolution 1 year ago
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It takes a great deal more faith to believe in an accidental universe than to believe in an intelligent creator, or God who crafted such a marvelous universe and beautiful place of habitation in planet Earth, and then created life (including human beings) to occupy it.
-Walter L. Bradley Ph.D. University of Texas
fromwilliams 2 years ago
well I guess I wont be sending my kids to the University of Texas if makes people spout such blatent bulllllssshhhhiiiiittttttttt !!!!!!
freezatron 2 years ago 3
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she's a liar
jayle77 2 years ago
"Why *didn't* you expect me to join the American Enterprise Institute"
I'm no fan of AEI myself, but that teenager was in a little bit over his head. Nice one Ayaan, had him running back to the childish intellectual position of "I've heard a lot of things about it." What a dickhead.
Mrmoc7 2 years ago
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Karima Belhaj and Miriyam Aouragh are directors of the largest womens shelter in Amsterdam. They scoff at the idea that Hirsi Ali is a champion of oppressed Muslim women. She has never fought for the oppressed. In fact, shes done the opposite. She uses these problems as a cover to attack Islam. She insults me and she makes my life as a feminist ten times harder because she forces me to be associated with anti-Muslim attacks,Aouragh said.
fromwilliams 2 years ago
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Europe already knows about this hate-mongering phony, its time America did too.
fromwilliams 2 years ago
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fromwilliams 2 years ago
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She is now a toilet cleaner at the american enterprise institute. Dick Cheney is the cleaning boss there.Poor thing, got kicked out of her job at the Dutch parliament for fraud now cleaning toilets for Dick.
fromwilliams 2 years ago
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Female circumcision has nothing to do with Islam it is from tribal African culture. There is 50,000 rapes in the UK every year. Is it right to say all Christians are rapists? It is people that do good and bad deeds not religion. Europe is deserting religion like it is a plague, yet one person allegedly an ex-Muslim, deserts Islam and godless atheists cant stop panting and salivating.
fromwilliams 2 years ago
fromwilliams
What you failed to say was. There is 50,000 rapes in the UK every year committed by Muslims.
The UK is nice enough not to list criminals by their religion. If they did, people might be shocked as how many of those criminals are Muslims. But hey ? Not all Muslims are rapists.
Female circumcision has nothing to do with Islam. True. But it is mostly Muslims who still carry it out.
StoneThatRolls 2 years ago 6
you say that religion does not do harm, only people do. you thereby hideously slander your palestinian comrades who, continuing to this day, are being forced off their diminishing land in the West Bank and Gaza by fanatical, ultra-orthodox jews.
why do they do this? its quite simple: they believe that the whole of the land, not just part of it, was given to them by GOD. Their holy book is full of Israelites expelling others (canaanites, etc) from the land.
theREALshafan 2 years ago 7
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Why did you join?
Her credibility is low for she is a member of the American Enterprise Institute which is a NEOCON thinktank,which has Dick Chenneys wife high up in the ranks.This thinktank lobbied the Iraq war and do what ever they can to spread fear and hate and she is part of it.
We can critisize alot within Islam or any religion for that mater, but give in to fear and hate propoganda is just wrong.
This mask that she hides behind of "wonder woman defender of all women" is laughable.
fromwilliams 2 years ago
It is your credibility that is low and it is you that have been brainwashed by ultra-leftist propaganda. Do you miss Sadam, are there tears on your pillow every night over his fate?
All religions should be criticized, ridiculed, feared and hated, especially islam. All Ayaan has done was to expose the degrading treatment of women because of the tenets of that filthy religion, islam. What the hell is wrong with that?
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago 7
I find your lack of intellectual acumen disturbing. Is ultra-liberalism and multiculturalism impeding your ability to think rationally or is it just too many punches to the head?
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fromwilliams 2 years ago
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fromwilliams 2 years ago
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this girl is a attension seeker
luckyjamal 2 years ago
Well thats indeed not a smackdown, but as close s u can get to a smackdown at Ayaan, which is thusly not very close at all...
Brantinger 2 years ago
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people give respect to those who have money and ayan is one of them but allaah knows best she will be judged one day by allaah and i know she is confused wright now what ever she is for sure she did this for money but she for get that she will leave it behind the money and go all alone in to the grave would that time the money the fame would help her for sure no think about that before u say and of coz if there is nothing can beat death why would i not be afraid of allaah
FISMO75 2 years ago
babbel babbel babbel....
Brantinger 2 years ago
"Allah knows best," boo-hoo, I can't handle criticism, so I have to invent an afterlife where all my critics will be tortured forever
How tolerant, enlightened, erudite and peaceful you are--not!
It's worse than babbel, because so many buy into this con-job
rubiconsedge 2 years ago 14
@rubiconsedge
actually that isnt the muslim belief, but hey its your freedom of speech, where im from we call this stupidity
CaligirlSofia 1 year ago
Ayaan is a brave woman. Not only did she shed Islam but went the entire intellectual (and honest) mile by proclaiming her atheism.
lordaltay5 2 years ago 9
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Some building as PNAC, a sister think thank that is morally bankrupt. PNAC blueprints call for bioweapons which could be useful in targeting specific genotypes. These guys also asked for a new Pearl Harbor which 9/11 certainly provided to justify their hunger for building the new american ce