I go to one o these schools. I do have a life... How come everyone thinks you don't have a life if you go to one of these... And outside of school, I'm just a normal asian kid doing normal things not "muggin' and thuggin'
This takes away all of our childhood fun. They have highschools, and their going to miss out on all of the privliges at regular high school that makes it fun. No traditions like ditch day, sports, no time for anything because of the hw etc.
I say KIPP is good if you want education and no childhood
1. Thanks for agreeing with me that these kids are being deprived of a childhood
2. In order to have a bright future you dont need to be doing work 24/7
3. weather these kids are succesful in life does not depend on the school that they go to. In the video they show these kids doing work and being perfect angels for the camera, what they dont show are the majority of these kids that are mugging and thugging outside of school trying to be gangsters and what not
actually having fun is your childhood, the good memeories are our childhoods, right? why kind of memories do you want these kids to have....
gangs, blood, death, depression vs. laughing, smiling,being safe, friendship, respect, education, good emotions, confidence, .....get it? i would ask will this lead to privatization of education? and still why cant ALL SCHOOL BE LIKE THIS. WHY CANT ALL TEACHERS BE PAID BY HOW MUCH THEY PUT INTO THEIR INSTRUCTION, and professionalism
Kipps are working very hard, staying at school late, can't yell in class, can't use bad words, can't stay at home if they like so, can't, can't..... but there is some thing that make them come to school every day.
hahaha fuck kipp i used to go there..dont get me wrong the academics are excellent but all those students are littke stuck up faggots..yall can all eat this dick
They ain't showing the these wannabes outside mugging and thuggin it up in the mornings and afterschool. And who wants to work at school that uses a late 80's rap music slogan, "knowledge is power"
@PreKDance EVERYONE has a different learning style...if KIPP didn't work for you then maybe it wasn't for you but that doesn't mean it doesn't work for someone else.
i'm from kipp in the bronx, ny !!! it may be challenging but you just gotta learn to to shake it off when ur in a kipp school.... current eighth grader
Like Dan Ceaser said when your trying to establish a school tradition you have to set limits. This school is incredible at what it does you should see how many students they help get into the most prestigious schools in the US. Kipp is just an amazing program for young students that want to go to college.
Kip is on to something good, but it does have a dark side. The kids get yelled at regularly to the point of making them cry, refused the restroom and overly harsh punishments for minor infractions. The work load is overwhelming and they dont get to socialize even during class changes. They need to have more fieldtrips and outdoor activities and less confinement in a classroom, it isn't natural or healthy. Also 2 hours of homework with a 9.5 h day? They need time with their family and friends!
I would like to add that my the district school my son went to was horrible on homework. I had to make up my own homework to give to him. I would be teaching him something, and they would never be there yet according to the teacher's lesson plan. He just finished 4th grade and they haven't learned cursive yet. His teacher told him to stop writing and turn in print only.
I am a Houston teacher who wants to communicate with TFA teachers. I respect your work, but believe TFA leaders, including the charter school founders, are too close to conservatives. They blame schools and teachers, not our unequal society, for the achievement gap This goes back to TFA's founding, when Wendy Kopp built an alliance with Union Carbide, whose negligence caused 100,000 casualties in India. And when KIPP's founders joined the Bush's at the 2000 Republican convention. SiSePuedes.
The principal even uses the same lingo as my old school and has the same fake and cheesy attitude. This school just gives up on the bad kids and kicks them out, the kids more receptive to learning and the ones that would do better anyway just stay there, thereby artificially raising test scores. I mean it's not a terrible school, it just seems like you need to trade your personal philosophy and that means a lot.
Reminds me of the charter school I used to go to, High Tech High. It's this odd school which is concerned all about image and making things look good. It's big thing is "project based learning", however I literally learned NOTHING the whole time I was there, I even forgot how to do some basic skills. If you disagree with them, all staff have this creepy yet cheesy pre formulated response that will involve the word "integrity". Not all staff are bad, but simply stripped of individual philosophy.
As evidenced by the Principal's comments, "if you don't want to be here, find the door," KIPP is not really overcoming the challenges typical inner city schools face. In a typical school, for example, you can't get rid of kids very easily. There are all sorts of due process rights, when it comes to truly expelling a child from a public school, these days. Charter schools are not bound to the same sort of regulations as regular public schools are. Because of this, their stats are skewed.
Let me just add that it's obvious that all children can learn, but it's not the case, as the gentleman at the beginning of the tape states, that they will learn. What these people don't realize, as a result of the fact that they talk, instead of actually educating anyone, is that there are many kids who, for whatever reason, are not interested in learning, are nasty human beings, and are moving towards one of two places: prison or the graveyard. I say this as an inner city product and teacher.
I taught at a school that shared space with KIPP, in the South Bronx. Their numbers are very skewed, because, for example, they expel about half of their kids. This makes them appear to be achieving success, statistically, when they're just getting rid of their worst performers. At the middle school where I taught, we often got their "rejects," which, unlike KIPP, we didn't have the authority to dump. I like their discipline policies, but they should prove they can turnaround all kids.
OK to all the people out there who say that the Kids in Prison Program empowered them or made them open their eyes I will say that to anyone who has an independent mind or does not follow authority blindly KIPP is quite possibly the worst option out there. God, even public schools are better than this system.
Also on your remark about the kids in Prison Program. Well first of all good job on using the letters in kipp to help your arguement, I must say that was original. Congrats, truely that was awsome. I'm not done keep reading on next comment you orange.
And while I too have a metally challenged American Aunt and a physically impaired Uncle. You are still a retard. And if it offends you, look up Ralphie May and he will help you understand that you need to get over being offened by the word "retarded", and need to "learn the true meaning of happiness!" You F%*$ing Orange.
its almost like they are running this schools like factories and turning the children into atkins aproved robots and those that dont agree i feel sorry for because u are the ignorant ones who will pay for it in the future
Bullshit. It might only be my case but i have learned shit at 3D. I hate every aspect of it. The people are horrible the classes are boring and the schedules are completely fucked. Anyways i would love to kill the principal as well as the vice-principal because they are the worlsd's biggest assholes
No all the shit they taught I already knew, and by the way no I am not a "retard" as you put it which by the way I find extremely offensive since my nephew is mentally impaired. Anyways I still hate it I went to Kinkaid afterwards which costs much more money but is much, much better.
If you hate it, the best way to protest is by outdoing whatever they ask of you. Ultimately we live in a world of consequence and that is what KIPP is really about--revealing the power of knowledge to influence and direct the world to achieve the future we desire.
You can use that same power to influence the way your KIPP school teaches you, but only if you can show a genuine flaw. Write an essay explaining why you find KIPP excessively or annoyingly virtuous--if that is what bothers you.
I just can't believe that anyone can talk bad about Kipp. These people go in to the worst areas, and make it work. You think that is done without being hard.
If any other ideas were as good, then maybe one would be successful. Its a free market of ideas.
"Go into the worst areas." I was surprised that they came to my house. I can't even get pizza delivered at the time they came. Teachers just don't visit homes like they used to, and they really surprised me when they came. They got points in my book.
We say there is no magic bullet but we hold up college as the cure for what the teachers and administrators see as a sickness to be cured rather than a reaction to an unhealthy society. These schools only treat the symptoms of a larger problem that they rarely acknowledge -- economic inequality, institutionalized racism and social injustice
First, the abolition of hierarchical authoritarian models (the ideological state apparatus that grinds students down and interpellates them into wage slaves, obsequious citizens and willing participants in the reproduction of class and race inequality) in favor of schools built on models like Summerhill, Sudbury or Montessori.
Second, the increase of apprenticeship programs in all areas of the economy including technology, research and medicine. Third, a decreased emphasis of going to college as the "big goal," in favor of becoming a whole, sympathetic, and healthy member of a community.
I agree with you, regarding the lack of knowledge, when it comes to the social, economic and political power structures in this country, as well as the need for acclimating poor and minority people to the world outside of the ghetto. However, as you've stated, it's not a magic bullet. I think that the almost complete absence of a values system, of the sort that at least breeds success, like that of many Asians, is the biggest barrier to real progress. Where there's no will, there's no way.
That's why the schools struggle to empower those who would otherwise not have a chance. It opened my eyes to the possibility of college, you'd be surprised how what I learned in middle school carried me through high school and into college.
I go to one o these schools. I do have a life... How come everyone thinks you don't have a life if you go to one of these... And outside of school, I'm just a normal asian kid doing normal things not "muggin' and thuggin'
EmosNeedLove 6 months ago
This takes away all of our childhood fun. They have highschools, and their going to miss out on all of the privliges at regular high school that makes it fun. No traditions like ditch day, sports, no time for anything because of the hw etc.
I say KIPP is good if you want education and no childhood
RubenARuiz 1 year ago
Comment removed
SuperStreamlineTV 11 months ago
@RubenARuiz who needs childhood when u can get a brighter future!!
SuperStreamlineTV 11 months ago
@SuperStreamlineTV
1. Thanks for agreeing with me that these kids are being deprived of a childhood
2. In order to have a bright future you dont need to be doing work 24/7
3. weather these kids are succesful in life does not depend on the school that they go to. In the video they show these kids doing work and being perfect angels for the camera, what they dont show are the majority of these kids that are mugging and thugging outside of school trying to be gangsters and what not
RubenARuiz 11 months ago
@RubenARuiz
actually having fun is your childhood, the good memeories are our childhoods, right? why kind of memories do you want these kids to have....
gangs, blood, death, depression vs. laughing, smiling,being safe, friendship, respect, education, good emotions, confidence, .....get it? i would ask will this lead to privatization of education? and still why cant ALL SCHOOL BE LIKE THIS. WHY CANT ALL TEACHERS BE PAID BY HOW MUCH THEY PUT INTO THEIR INSTRUCTION, and professionalism
shesrightyo 11 months ago
Kipps are working very hard, staying at school late, can't yell in class, can't use bad words, can't stay at home if they like so, can't, can't..... but there is some thing that make them come to school every day.
..... think about it.
MrAlexvender 1 year ago
@MrAlexvender 1 word: Parents
RubenARuiz 1 year ago
@EdgarJaimes666 Dumb shit.
ixtoothint 1 year ago
that sounds like school in Kenya.....school starts at 6am and ends at 9pm
Msbea345 1 year ago
hahaha fuck kipp i used to go there..dont get me wrong the academics are excellent but all those students are littke stuck up faggots..yall can all eat this dick
nicatrucho45 1 year ago
They ain't showing the these wannabes outside mugging and thuggin it up in the mornings and afterschool. And who wants to work at school that uses a late 80's rap music slogan, "knowledge is power"
suck00these 1 year ago
i was a kipp student before & its not all that videos & tv say it is. you want a real story, ask about KHHS.
PreKDance 1 year ago
@PreKDance EVERYONE has a different learning style...if KIPP didn't work for you then maybe it wasn't for you but that doesn't mean it doesn't work for someone else.
Msbea345 1 year ago
i'm from kipp in the bronx, ny !!! it may be challenging but you just gotta learn to to shake it off when ur in a kipp school.... current eighth grader
koolgurl30 1 year ago
Like Dan Ceaser said when your trying to establish a school tradition you have to set limits. This school is incredible at what it does you should see how many students they help get into the most prestigious schools in the US. Kipp is just an amazing program for young students that want to go to college.
isaacmartinez14 1 year ago
Kip is on to something good, but it does have a dark side. The kids get yelled at regularly to the point of making them cry, refused the restroom and overly harsh punishments for minor infractions. The work load is overwhelming and they dont get to socialize even during class changes. They need to have more fieldtrips and outdoor activities and less confinement in a classroom, it isn't natural or healthy. Also 2 hours of homework with a 9.5 h day? They need time with their family and friends!
billybassman21 2 years ago
@billybassman21 KIPP sucks! My school day starts at 8:00 a.m. and ends at 2:00 p.m., Monday to Friday.
ixtoothint 1 year ago
this is a school where u LEARN
MrRockstar211 2 years ago
hi im from kipp n colorado cool over here
rdg811 2 years ago 2
KiPP is awesome!!! Mrs. Soliz is awesome!!!! I attend Kipp 3D .....current 8th Grader!!!
andipandi713 2 years ago
I would like to add that my the district school my son went to was horrible on homework. I had to make up my own homework to give to him. I would be teaching him something, and they would never be there yet according to the teacher's lesson plan. He just finished 4th grade and they haven't learned cursive yet. His teacher told him to stop writing and turn in print only.
mekatj 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I am a Houston teacher who wants to communicate with TFA teachers. I respect your work, but believe TFA leaders, including the charter school founders, are too close to conservatives. They blame schools and teachers, not our unequal society, for the achievement gap This goes back to TFA's founding, when Wendy Kopp built an alliance with Union Carbide, whose negligence caused 100,000 casualties in India. And when KIPP's founders joined the Bush's at the 2000 Republican convention. SiSePuedes.
JesseAlred 2 years ago
The principal even uses the same lingo as my old school and has the same fake and cheesy attitude. This school just gives up on the bad kids and kicks them out, the kids more receptive to learning and the ones that would do better anyway just stay there, thereby artificially raising test scores. I mean it's not a terrible school, it just seems like you need to trade your personal philosophy and that means a lot.
Jacobito14 3 years ago
Reminds me of the charter school I used to go to, High Tech High. It's this odd school which is concerned all about image and making things look good. It's big thing is "project based learning", however I literally learned NOTHING the whole time I was there, I even forgot how to do some basic skills. If you disagree with them, all staff have this creepy yet cheesy pre formulated response that will involve the word "integrity". Not all staff are bad, but simply stripped of individual philosophy.
Jacobito14 3 years ago
As evidenced by the Principal's comments, "if you don't want to be here, find the door," KIPP is not really overcoming the challenges typical inner city schools face. In a typical school, for example, you can't get rid of kids very easily. There are all sorts of due process rights, when it comes to truly expelling a child from a public school, these days. Charter schools are not bound to the same sort of regulations as regular public schools are. Because of this, their stats are skewed.
CharmingMan27 3 years ago
Let me just add that it's obvious that all children can learn, but it's not the case, as the gentleman at the beginning of the tape states, that they will learn. What these people don't realize, as a result of the fact that they talk, instead of actually educating anyone, is that there are many kids who, for whatever reason, are not interested in learning, are nasty human beings, and are moving towards one of two places: prison or the graveyard. I say this as an inner city product and teacher.
CharmingMan27 3 years ago
I taught at a school that shared space with KIPP, in the South Bronx. Their numbers are very skewed, because, for example, they expel about half of their kids. This makes them appear to be achieving success, statistically, when they're just getting rid of their worst performers. At the middle school where I taught, we often got their "rejects," which, unlike KIPP, we didn't have the authority to dump. I like their discipline policies, but they should prove they can turnaround all kids.
CharmingMan27 3 years ago
OK to all the people out there who say that the Kids in Prison Program empowered them or made them open their eyes I will say that to anyone who has an independent mind or does not follow authority blindly KIPP is quite possibly the worst option out there. God, even public schools are better than this system.
gigsworld101 3 years ago
What class were you at 3D? For ex: 2009 2010...
Also on your remark about the kids in Prison Program. Well first of all good job on using the letters in kipp to help your arguement, I must say that was original. Congrats, truely that was awsome. I'm not done keep reading on next comment you orange.
tinyt099 3 years ago
And while I too have a metally challenged American Aunt and a physically impaired Uncle. You are still a retard. And if it offends you, look up Ralphie May and he will help you understand that you need to get over being offened by the word "retarded", and need to "learn the true meaning of happiness!" You F%*$ing Orange.
tinyt099 3 years ago
OK I hate to ask this because I'm going to get some stupid response from you. Why am I a retard?
gigsworld101 3 years ago
KIPP is public .-.
legallystunning08 3 years ago
my friend go to kipp, she be at skool for 10 hours starting at 730 and endin till 5 and how hours of homework
omigoduguys12 3 years ago
its almost like they are running this schools like factories and turning the children into atkins aproved robots and those that dont agree i feel sorry for because u are the ignorant ones who will pay for it in the future
dimlivin 3 years ago
hahah that naco is 16 in 8th grade!
MasterODeliciousPies 3 years ago
Bullshit. It might only be my case but i have learned shit at 3D. I hate every aspect of it. The people are horrible the classes are boring and the schedules are completely fucked. Anyways i would love to kill the principal as well as the vice-principal because they are the worlsd's biggest assholes
gigsworld101 3 years ago
Why do you think this? Is it because you are retarded and no matter what people do you will always be stupid?
tinyt099 3 years ago
No all the shit they taught I already knew, and by the way no I am not a "retard" as you put it which by the way I find extremely offensive since my nephew is mentally impaired. Anyways I still hate it I went to Kinkaid afterwards which costs much more money but is much, much better.
gigsworld101 3 years ago
i so agree with that..i hate KIPP
legallystunning08 3 years ago
I go to kipp indianapolis im in the 8th grade its really not that bad
gotmyshit2togather 4 years ago
True that. I go to KIPP Infinity in NYC and it don't suck
wilson809 3 years ago
dude do you know kipp heart wood academy?
EmosNeedLove 3 years ago
isnt that in the bay area??
jvasquez311 3 years ago
i go to KIPP 3D i hate it so much .
legallystunning08 3 years ago
If you hate it, the best way to protest is by outdoing whatever they ask of you. Ultimately we live in a world of consequence and that is what KIPP is really about--revealing the power of knowledge to influence and direct the world to achieve the future we desire.
You can use that same power to influence the way your KIPP school teaches you, but only if you can show a genuine flaw. Write an essay explaining why you find KIPP excessively or annoyingly virtuous--if that is what bothers you.
ananiasacts 3 years ago 2
I just can't believe that anyone can talk bad about Kipp. These people go in to the worst areas, and make it work. You think that is done without being hard.
If any other ideas were as good, then maybe one would be successful. Its a free market of ideas.
But you back seat complainers are lame lame lame.
peterwhitehead 4 years ago
i go to KIPP it is bad my friend never gt on bench or detention and they caught her chewing gum and they gave her 40 strikes .a week of detention
legallystunning08 3 years ago
"Go into the worst areas." I was surprised that they came to my house. I can't even get pizza delivered at the time they came. Teachers just don't visit homes like they used to, and they really surprised me when they came. They got points in my book.
mekatj 2 years ago
If you dig deeper the founding principle of these schools is this --"White is Right" -- where white is the white upper-middle-class power structure.
knsummers 4 years ago
We say there is no magic bullet but we hold up college as the cure for what the teachers and administrators see as a sickness to be cured rather than a reaction to an unhealthy society. These schools only treat the symptoms of a larger problem that they rarely acknowledge -- economic inequality, institutionalized racism and social injustice
knsummers 4 years ago
summer:
with all the comments, what would you suggest?
wayoff79 4 years ago
First, the abolition of hierarchical authoritarian models (the ideological state apparatus that grinds students down and interpellates them into wage slaves, obsequious citizens and willing participants in the reproduction of class and race inequality) in favor of schools built on models like Summerhill, Sudbury or Montessori.
knsummers 4 years ago
Second, the increase of apprenticeship programs in all areas of the economy including technology, research and medicine. Third, a decreased emphasis of going to college as the "big goal," in favor of becoming a whole, sympathetic, and healthy member of a community.
knsummers 4 years ago
I agree with you, regarding the lack of knowledge, when it comes to the social, economic and political power structures in this country, as well as the need for acclimating poor and minority people to the world outside of the ghetto. However, as you've stated, it's not a magic bullet. I think that the almost complete absence of a values system, of the sort that at least breeds success, like that of many Asians, is the biggest barrier to real progress. Where there's no will, there's no way.
CharmingMan27 3 years ago
If schools are a model of what our society holds dear I would not want to live in the society imagined by the founders of KIPP.
Free and democratic schools for a free and democratic society.
I would suggest reading the work of Deborah Meier.
knsummers 4 years ago
That's why the schools struggle to empower those who would otherwise not have a chance. It opened my eyes to the possibility of college, you'd be surprised how what I learned in middle school carried me through high school and into college.
Knowledge is power.
iriemogley 3 years ago
monolithic culture, one goal, one path, "kipp"notized, "all children will learn"
Unless our definition of learning is adequately diverse this is a frightening monopoly of the childrens' will and freedom.
knsummers 4 years ago
fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccckkkkkkkkkkk fuck kipp is fucking gay they fucking push you're buttons so bad
512619 4 years ago
fff
512619 4 years ago