MMA is nothing, but glorified wrestling if we want to go there, sure it involves more movement, kicks and punches, but in the end all that happens is they end up hugging the whole fight. Now its not fair to Bruce to say anything about the guy, hes not here today, he cant defend himself nor prove himself to anyone. Bruce has the "art" of the fight, and just judging from videos of his moment you can tell he knew what he was doing.
Wasn't Bruce Lee's "martial art's" exposed as fancy moves that wouldn't work against something like Jiu-Jitsu for example? Bruce Lee wouldn't have lasted a minute against 99% of today's MMA fighters.
@wmc1982 You've got to be one of the most stupidest people on here to think that. MMA is alive today because of Bruce Lee. Learn your history and get your facts straight. If he were alive today, Not anyone from MMA can take him. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be possible to be beaten, But a lot of MMA fighters dont know nowhere near what he knew. Bruce was way ahead of his time. Most MMA fighters on UFC dont kn ow shit like yourself. You should do finger tip push ups and BLOW THESE.....
@wmc1982 Your right cause M.M.A. Fighters are SO Superior, Right? Clearly, you don't know anything about Martial Arts, your just a M.M.A.Fan Boy. Someone like Chuck Liddell would get out strike, and K.O. easily by a Professional Boxer like Floyd Mayweather Jr. If you honestly put Royce Gracie against Bruce Lee, Lee would finish him off in about 60 seconds. Today M.M.A. Fighter is lousy strike and gay take downs and hold em down til time runs out!
@bhbharris898 Answer about difference between Jun Fan and JKD -- Jun Fan is more or less "Bruce Lee version/expression of Wing Chun" note that Bruce often has his body turned side on even when performing in trapping range - a big no for a lot of Wing Chun people - and then JKD is very much all about fighting as a whole, rather than trying to belong to a particular style - learning about styles is still important in JKD, but Bruce would say don't let it trap you in, be free of its rules.
@wwfnbaifs Bruce Lee trained in Wing Chun for a while. He used it until the eventual transition into JKD which, my interpretation is Bruce Lee's take on wing Chun. if you look at his Wing Chun stance, It's too wide and spread apart, almost akin to fencing. He may be using WIng Chun trapping, but this is definately JKD
when you get to the kings level its all about spirituality and aerodynamics haha,. the rest has been mastered.if you want to know jkd then you must study wing chun cus you cant go from 0 to 600 mph on jkd only .wing chun is jkd 1 and jkd is jkd 2 haha. and then you morph them into the earth
If Bruce Lee came along today he would probably see MMA as the evolution of the revolution he started. We owe him one for starting MMA by looking at all MA and begin to distill applicable technique- trained in real application from many different MA. In addition he began to connect the commonalities and principles that cross over. JKD is a philosophy, not a technique. I'm sure he would be proud, and at the very least well versed in MMA if he lived now; as he always sought to perfect himself
continuing,,,If i study boxing & i improve boxing a 1000 fold. then i say i have found a secret to mastering selfdefense. All i did was to make boxing better not self defense better. This what Lee did. He made the wign chun etc flow better but self defense was not better. he got excited & conducted a bigger experiment-he thought by add more arts he could apply the principle of flow (JKD) to them as he did earlier. i believe if he had succeed JKD scools will look like MMA today. so why dont they
@bajanfights 1) Bruce was fighting for Bruce he was not trying to make the best global self defense (his art is too attribute driven for that) 2) MMA is a sport fighting method--the days of NHB were closer to real fighting 3) he wasn;t adding arts he was trying to problem solve
@bajanfights --he died before he could check out more answers (he looked to fencing--a sport form, mistake) 4) he was evolving it was never static like a living body, he was getting rid of things, like trapping in favor of LeBell finishing holds, etc.
@bajanfights lee added something to JKD just for fast defeat ur enemies.if u watch the soap ,which talks about his whole life, you will find that what he looking for is something the fastest and the most powerful to defend .just like a math problem ,it is hard for u to solve it when u first encounter it,then u learn math nd finally solve it , someday u find another better to solve it,and u really do it ..
lee like many of us started on a wrong premiss. he thought that by learning an art, one will master fighting. This why it took so many years and complicated philosophies to figure out that the art forms of his time were not based on real fights but theories about real fighting. his dilima was he died and never taught real fighting. he tried to simplify the arts he was simplifying fighting. he only complicated things because no of the arts were nothing but peices of a real fight.
Great Video to celebrate his 70th Birthday which we added on MMAMaxim com for martial arts discussion. "Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend. (Bruce Lee, creator of multidisciplinary study of martial arts and creator of Jeet Kune Do)
@mistermanlysir and @VCthaGOATdunker, check out clasic fencing foot work lessons, and you'll see that the stance is similar to lee's, and if you watch advanced CLASICAL fencers, they seem to float around in the same way that lee did when closing an attack. i would assume that's why he uses a wide stance, although, there probably other reasons that enforce his dicision. i mean the guy is wing chun too, so he had to have dug the leverage(gaurd manipulation+strikes) and of course the linear power
jkd is more or less bruce lee's take on kung fu. which is basically bruce's take on fighting, which comes from his experience in many things, eg tai chi, wing chun, boxing, and fencing, and probably in that order. it's wrong of people to say that it's "no form". it's all of these. what some see as "formless" is not the flow between them, but the fact that they are all there at the same time, and that is what makes him great. don't assume that knowing nothing is the answer, quite the opposite.
@mike12456789 formlessness has to do with the state of mind and spirit. Can be applied to anything in life. In other words its the "How" not the "What"
@mike12456789 thats the point, with 'formless' one must understand that the real fight, the reality, offers no form, no pure technique, the real fight is adapting to the enemy and moving all the time, is to be simple and direct, to free ur mind from strategy or techniques, to catch the moment, without thinking or hesitating, apologise for my english
@mike12456789 Knowing nothing IS the answer. It means to not think of anything, to not think of an attack, to not think of a block. Just let the punch punch, let the kick kick, let the tan sao form itself, let your body flow...into whatever it wants to.
Don't try to do something, be empty, just let the things come. JKD doesn't mean to just mix styles.
That's the part that matters but also probably the hardest thing to achieve.
@tsi2568 you cant do that without knowing what is first. Ben winman, a very good guitarist said this about music and I think it corresponds very well to jkd and martial arts in general. take everything you can in, learn everything you can, memorize it, practice it, train it. then when you are ready... throw it all out the window
@SUBLIMEDUDESTP Yeah, one shall take in everything usefull and leave out the rest. But what Bruce wanted to teach was to learn the movements, memorize them and keep em in mind, to achieve knowledge. But his ultimate goal was to "have no technique as technique". He said that in Enter the dragon, for example. In the beginning. Not to know all techniques, but to know none. To just let them come, without doing them.
I read somewhere that Bruce Lee resorted to Wing Chun when all else failed in a street fight. For most people it would be the other way around; when Wing Chun fails, they resort to other styles; for myself personally, I noticed that Muay Thai and MMA technics are my natural weapons and they have served me well. But I also know the same techniques would not work against a younger, stronger, fitter and larger fighter. Question is how did Bruce Lee make Wing Chun work for him?
yes, my friend, part OF JKD! You must flow from JKD technique in other JKD techniques, but NO from style to style... This is not JKD, you can call it m.m.a.
Thank you CataJKD and everyone remembering Bruce and acknowledging the first and second generation of teachers. It is great people like you who are or will be the next generation that will keep Bruces dream and hard work alive.
what I would give to see actual footage of him in combat with another..
ebowebo 1 month ago
MMA is nothing, but glorified wrestling if we want to go there, sure it involves more movement, kicks and punches, but in the end all that happens is they end up hugging the whole fight. Now its not fair to Bruce to say anything about the guy, hes not here today, he cant defend himself nor prove himself to anyone. Bruce has the "art" of the fight, and just judging from videos of his moment you can tell he knew what he was doing.
NeroNDK 1 month ago
Jeet Kune Do is NOT- I repeat NOT- MMA. Shannon Lee said it HERSELF.
Razwell 2 months ago
Wasn't Bruce Lee's "martial art's" exposed as fancy moves that wouldn't work against something like Jiu-Jitsu for example? Bruce Lee wouldn't have lasted a minute against 99% of today's MMA fighters.
wmc1982 4 months ago
@wmc1982 You've got to be one of the most stupidest people on here to think that. MMA is alive today because of Bruce Lee. Learn your history and get your facts straight. If he were alive today, Not anyone from MMA can take him. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be possible to be beaten, But a lot of MMA fighters dont know nowhere near what he knew. Bruce was way ahead of his time. Most MMA fighters on UFC dont kn ow shit like yourself. You should do finger tip push ups and BLOW THESE.....
SDOTBANG 3 months ago
@wmc1982 Your right cause M.M.A. Fighters are SO Superior, Right? Clearly, you don't know anything about Martial Arts, your just a M.M.A.Fan Boy. Someone like Chuck Liddell would get out strike, and K.O. easily by a Professional Boxer like Floyd Mayweather Jr. If you honestly put Royce Gracie against Bruce Lee, Lee would finish him off in about 60 seconds. Today M.M.A. Fighter is lousy strike and gay take downs and hold em down til time runs out!
PierreDeMinuit 1 month ago
I'm tired of all the "This is JKD"..."That is not JKD". Let's END IT ALL. Just call them all "FIGHTING". Or...call everything just martial arts.
gorfjorf2112112 5 months ago
this is wing chun~not JKD~
wwfnbaifs 5 months ago
@wwfnbaifs actually is Jun Fan, I hope you can see the differences...
CataJKD 5 months ago 6
@CataJKD I have looked up both but still cant SEE the differences, can you help?
bhbharris898 5 months ago
@bhbharris898 Answer about difference between Jun Fan and JKD -- Jun Fan is more or less "Bruce Lee version/expression of Wing Chun" note that Bruce often has his body turned side on even when performing in trapping range - a big no for a lot of Wing Chun people - and then JKD is very much all about fighting as a whole, rather than trying to belong to a particular style - learning about styles is still important in JKD, but Bruce would say don't let it trap you in, be free of its rules.
spamoo 4 months ago
@wwfnbaifs Bruce Lee trained in Wing Chun for a while. He used it until the eventual transition into JKD which, my interpretation is Bruce Lee's take on wing Chun. if you look at his Wing Chun stance, It's too wide and spread apart, almost akin to fencing. He may be using WIng Chun trapping, but this is definately JKD
sickness324 3 months ago
@wwfnbaifs Wing-Chun fighters never stand in that position and never attack from high-to-low angles
desperado32386 3 months ago 2
@desperado32386 thank you for the comment!
CataJKD 3 months ago
Bruce Lee is the king of martial arts!! R.I.P. BRUCE LEE (LITTLE DRAGON)
Crowned28 6 months ago
when you get to the kings level its all about spirituality and aerodynamics haha,. the rest has been mastered.if you want to know jkd then you must study wing chun cus you cant go from 0 to 600 mph on jkd only .wing chun is jkd 1 and jkd is jkd 2 haha. and then you morph them into the earth
BBFOXHOUND 8 months ago
and....most of wing chun is bullshit just like BL
vandumbass 8 months ago
@vandumbass
So sayeth the dumbass who has never accomplished anything in his life.
DifangDuana 5 months ago
@DifangDuana BL did... he died hahahah
vandumbass 5 months ago
Most of Jeet Kune Do is Wing Chun
SoccerBoy1903 8 months ago
what @mike12456789 said: JKD includes all forms therefore being formless. there i simplified it for you. because the trick is simply to simplify :)
ninjamaster2995 8 months ago
lose the music nobhead!
Andyfreedom1 9 months ago
what is a trap
sethfan1000000 9 months ago
If Bruce Lee came along today he would probably see MMA as the evolution of the revolution he started. We owe him one for starting MMA by looking at all MA and begin to distill applicable technique- trained in real application from many different MA. In addition he began to connect the commonalities and principles that cross over. JKD is a philosophy, not a technique. I'm sure he would be proud, and at the very least well versed in MMA if he lived now; as he always sought to perfect himself
consciousdreamer2012 9 months ago
continuing,,,If i study boxing & i improve boxing a 1000 fold. then i say i have found a secret to mastering selfdefense. All i did was to make boxing better not self defense better. This what Lee did. He made the wign chun etc flow better but self defense was not better. he got excited & conducted a bigger experiment-he thought by add more arts he could apply the principle of flow (JKD) to them as he did earlier. i believe if he had succeed JKD scools will look like MMA today. so why dont they
bajanfights 11 months ago
@bajanfights 1) Bruce was fighting for Bruce he was not trying to make the best global self defense (his art is too attribute driven for that) 2) MMA is a sport fighting method--the days of NHB were closer to real fighting 3) he wasn;t adding arts he was trying to problem solve
christopheclugston 9 months ago
@bajanfights --he died before he could check out more answers (he looked to fencing--a sport form, mistake) 4) he was evolving it was never static like a living body, he was getting rid of things, like trapping in favor of LeBell finishing holds, etc.
christopheclugston 9 months ago
@bajanfights lee added something to JKD just for fast defeat ur enemies.if u watch the soap ,which talks about his whole life, you will find that what he looking for is something the fastest and the most powerful to defend .just like a math problem ,it is hard for u to solve it when u first encounter it,then u learn math nd finally solve it , someday u find another better to solve it,and u really do it ..
SAKYKUTATAKI 9 months ago
@bajanfights ,the MMA schools look like the JKD schools,Bruce is the father of MMA
tuzwol 8 months ago
lee like many of us started on a wrong premiss. he thought that by learning an art, one will master fighting. This why it took so many years and complicated philosophies to figure out that the art forms of his time were not based on real fights but theories about real fighting. his dilima was he died and never taught real fighting. he tried to simplify the arts he was simplifying fighting. he only complicated things because no of the arts were nothing but peices of a real fight.
bajanfights 11 months ago
@bajanfights ,he did teach real fighting
tuzwol 8 months ago
Nice :O
5saawwyyeerr 11 months ago
lol.. those karate guys are like... hooolllyyyyy
ENGlNEER 1 year ago
so ahh no way to slow it down or anything eh? fuck I couldn't see a thing he did it was just a bunch of movement, goodness he was fast
kid1111111 1 year ago
Great Video to celebrate his 70th Birthday which we added on MMAMaxim com for martial arts discussion. "Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend. (Bruce Lee, creator of multidisciplinary study of martial arts and creator of Jeet Kune Do)
MMAMaxim 1 year ago
Kimura the great Karate Master to join Bruce Lee to be a Kung Fu and Jeet Kune Do Martial Artist.
raymond5ive29 1 year ago
he is the originator of MMA
Iightbreaker 1 year ago
@mistermanlysir and @VCthaGOATdunker, check out clasic fencing foot work lessons, and you'll see that the stance is similar to lee's, and if you watch advanced CLASICAL fencers, they seem to float around in the same way that lee did when closing an attack. i would assume that's why he uses a wide stance, although, there probably other reasons that enforce his dicision. i mean the guy is wing chun too, so he had to have dug the leverage(gaurd manipulation+strikes) and of course the linear power
mike12456789 1 year ago
jkd is more or less bruce lee's take on kung fu. which is basically bruce's take on fighting, which comes from his experience in many things, eg tai chi, wing chun, boxing, and fencing, and probably in that order. it's wrong of people to say that it's "no form". it's all of these. what some see as "formless" is not the flow between them, but the fact that they are all there at the same time, and that is what makes him great. don't assume that knowing nothing is the answer, quite the opposite.
mike12456789 2 years ago 15
nice ideas!
CataJKD 2 years ago
indeed. i would have to say that if wing chun,boxing,tai chi,ect
are the "A,B,C",then JKD would be the poetry.
joesatva 1 year ago
@mike12456789 formlessness has to do with the state of mind and spirit. Can be applied to anything in life. In other words its the "How" not the "What"
oldboy777 1 year ago
@mike12456789 thats the point, with 'formless' one must understand that the real fight, the reality, offers no form, no pure technique, the real fight is adapting to the enemy and moving all the time, is to be simple and direct, to free ur mind from strategy or techniques, to catch the moment, without thinking or hesitating, apologise for my english
albcorason 1 year ago
@mike12456789 Knowing nothing IS the answer. It means to not think of anything, to not think of an attack, to not think of a block. Just let the punch punch, let the kick kick, let the tan sao form itself, let your body flow...into whatever it wants to.
Don't try to do something, be empty, just let the things come. JKD doesn't mean to just mix styles.
That's the part that matters but also probably the hardest thing to achieve.
tsi2568 1 year ago
@tsi2568 you cant do that without knowing what is first. Ben winman, a very good guitarist said this about music and I think it corresponds very well to jkd and martial arts in general. take everything you can in, learn everything you can, memorize it, practice it, train it. then when you are ready... throw it all out the window
SUBLIMEDUDESTP 1 year ago
@SUBLIMEDUDESTP Yeah, one shall take in everything usefull and leave out the rest. But what Bruce wanted to teach was to learn the movements, memorize them and keep em in mind, to achieve knowledge. But his ultimate goal was to "have no technique as technique". He said that in Enter the dragon, for example. In the beginning. Not to know all techniques, but to know none. To just let them come, without doing them.
tsi2568 1 year ago
@mike12456789 so are you saying he is a mixed martial artist?? jus asking
suresh54 11 months ago
@mike12456789
I read somewhere that Bruce Lee resorted to Wing Chun when all else failed in a street fight. For most people it would be the other way around; when Wing Chun fails, they resort to other styles; for myself personally, I noticed that Muay Thai and MMA technics are my natural weapons and they have served me well. But I also know the same techniques would not work against a younger, stronger, fitter and larger fighter. Question is how did Bruce Lee make Wing Chun work for him?
flbk8597 11 months ago
@mike12456789 dont forget that bruce also used roman greco wrestling jujitsu and savatte as well as mui thai
thebruceleefan 7 months ago
i want to see some real bruce lee fights! or are all of them just show offs of his speed and whatever.. real fight!! manny manny manny!
KellysterOverdrive 2 years ago
@KellysterOverdrive ..i dont think any body had the balls to fight him on camera
mistermanlysir 2 years ago
What is this song called?
GoldDragoon07 2 years ago
"The Epitome Of Lame" by Loser Crew
vdeferens 2 years ago
@GoldDragoon07 Not sure if you find out let me know ;
nimisimipacposeyda 1 year ago
@nimisimipacposeyda It's called "The Predator" by E-Type.
GoldDragoon07 1 year ago
does any1 knows name of this song
nawaz20 2 years ago
I think that's wing chun right there!
babotaechi 2 years ago
Look how wide his stance his. He generates so much power because of that.
VCthaGOATdunker 2 years ago
@VCthaGOATdunker ...so you thing the wider your stance is the more power you have...
mistermanlysir 2 years ago
Yes, that way you generate more leverage.
VCthaGOATdunker 2 years ago
BRUCE LEE SPEED AND POWER awesome
ArtesmarcialesJKD 2 years ago
Nope, that is TAKY FOR SURE in both videos.
jkdbrotherhood 2 years ago
flowing is part of JKD , Bruce said himself "water can crash or it can flow be like water my friend, keep on flowing"
jeettech 2 years ago
yes, my friend, part OF JKD! You must flow from JKD technique in other JKD techniques, but NO from style to style... This is not JKD, you can call it m.m.a.
CataJKD 2 years ago
@CataJKD bruce lee came up with the concept MMA first
phillyphil050888 1 year ago
@phillyphil050888 for sure! thanks!
CataJKD 1 year ago
Thank you CataJKD and everyone remembering Bruce and acknowledging the first and second generation of teachers. It is great people like you who are or will be the next generation that will keep Bruces dream and hard work alive.
cboobtube 2 years ago 4
Me thank you, cboobtube for your appreciation...
CataJKD 2 years ago
Cool vid but the guy in the second vid isnt Taky Kimura btw.
LucasPicturesUK 2 years ago
sorry my friend IS KIMURA FOR SURE! Who do you beleive is that guy? LOL This images apear in some documentaries, please check them...
YellowDragonRO 2 years ago
Yes in the first clip but the second vid the guy Bruce is with is Dan Lee.
LucasPicturesUK 2 years ago
Si-Gung TAKY IS THE BEST!
YellowDragonRO 2 years ago
This video goes to my favourite list! Thank you for uploading! Bruce Lee forever and long live Sifu Taky Kimura!
VNMIG 2 years ago