oh simple put.... i asked someon about different things on youtube and she lead me to here... and she asked about hearing can be deafhood if so then i can be motherhood and so on... so hearing can't be part of deafhood so just this ASLhood or CODAhood.... or something....
i think paddy kinda said "Hearing folks Deafhood journey is kinda an open question" it hasnt fully been explored yet. he is interested in looking at CODAs as are Drs. Padden and Humphries. So too with Hearing parents of siblings with Deaf family members. Not sure about the spouses - allies definitely but Deafhood?
My husband and kids are Jewish. I attend shul with them, we light sabbath candles, I participate in other Jewish events with them but I would not call myself a Jew. I don't feel I am entitled to but folks do see me as part of the Jewish community via my marriage and children.
I am Italian but I'm sure folks from italy would totally dispute that.
we wont find answers if we dont pose questions so i appreciate ur vlogging this
@pdurr (cont) Then we discussed about the situation later the day and I told him why do hearing people insult other hearing people by calling each other deaf or dumb? Is deaf/dumb a really bad thing? He doesn't know why either. But calling hearing people "deaf" as an insult sure does show how much they see in deaf people. (cont)
I like this whole train of thought running through these vlogs because it shows just how people can distinguish someone's externally-identified "category" from their thoughts, beliefs, and actions. This is a vital distinction.
What about a person that can hear but is speech impaired? What if a speech impaired person is more comfortable and confident signing and relating to Deaf than living in the hearing world? What if that speech impaired person dislikes being labeled hearing and prefers to be included in Deafhood where he/she will feel normal? Where are these strange birds to belong? What are we to make of them? Should they be accepted into Deafhood...or are they just too hearing? Just wondering...
@stutterguy3 Good question, SG. I guess it would depend on whether that person still considers themselves as more of a "hearing" person, but just happens to prefer to interact with Deaf due to their speech issues. Also, whether that person supports Deaf values, and if so, how strongly those values were held.
@ButterfliesFireflies Like me, I can't bring up the uncomfortable topic on Audism to my hearing friends. I'm afraid they wouldn't understand and would avoid me if I did. That Audism doesn't exist even though they know fully well how I was treated in High School. They would say, "oh everyone get picked on" but what if that person is black? would they say the same thing? Anyway, that's one of the experience I had as a deaf person.
Ok, Don equates Deaf minds and Deaf hearts to Deafhood, in his opinion, that is good thinking but I remembered Ridor's description of two different CODA categories, pre-ADA and post-ADA.A good subtopic to discuss as part of your main topic?
Hmm. Hearing people with Deafhod, can? I cant answer this question because I have not taken the workshop nor read the book yet. For one to experience Deafhood, does he/she have to be biologically deaf? If so, can we divert a little away from Paddy? Anyway, I can say Hearing people can have the "Deaf heart" and "Deaf mind".
@DrDonGCSUS There are over 15 million people who stutter around the world, and many more with other kinds of speech problems. Many of us who have severe speech problems have spent years and years in speech therapy because our parents and teachers want to prepare us for the speaking world. In 1981, after years of feeling left out in the hearing/speaking world I discovered the Deaf community, learned sign language, married a Deaf woman, and now feel more comfortable and confident as a person!
@DrDonGCSUS Just like the Deaf, people with severe speech problems want to live and function in an environment where their speech problem is the not the main issue. They don't want to live in an environment where they are always afraid they might have to speak, feeling left out socially, etc. People with a severe speech problem are often very lonely and frustrated because the conversations are often only one way. They can hear what other people say, but don't have the ability to share!
@DrDonGCSUS The Deaf community is a potential home for people with a severe speech problem. There is a freedom and a joy when the speech problem is no longer an issue. All of a sudden the fear of maybe having to speak, the fear of being involved socially, the hopelessness of never having a normal life begins to fade away. When a person with a severe speech problem learns sign language and begins to live in the Deaf community, that person begins to feel NORMAL!
@DrDonGCSUS Here's the BIG question? Can or will a person with a severe speech problem TRULY be accepted FULLY into Deafhood? If a person with a severe speech problem does not feel comfortable or confident in the hearing/speaking world...but feels comfortable and confident in the Deaf world...can that person know they will be welcomed into Deafhood with all the rights and privileges?
Trust my deafhood, you covered it very well. It is not right time due of greatest of oppressions what we are under right now. They people who immersed deaf culture can wait due they do have job. Why job? The money secured them so They ought to be waiting and stay behind us and support us all the way until the right time that we can start to open to hearing people who themselves a deafhood too. I am sorry to say but fact.
Gallaudet now allow hearing undergraduate students to enroll and become a deaf gallaudet student. Just one requirement was, fluency of ASL to some degree and maybe connections to the Deaf community, I think family or somethng.. That is new and one of a kind ot almost seems, where it is an all Deaf University, and maybe they found Deafhood? It would be a good question..
oh simple put.... i asked someon about different things on youtube and she lead me to here... and she asked about hearing can be deafhood if so then i can be motherhood and so on... so hearing can't be part of deafhood so just this ASLhood or CODAhood.... or something....
podsaich 1 year ago
i think paddy kinda said "Hearing folks Deafhood journey is kinda an open question" it hasnt fully been explored yet. he is interested in looking at CODAs as are Drs. Padden and Humphries. So too with Hearing parents of siblings with Deaf family members. Not sure about the spouses - allies definitely but Deafhood?
pdurr 1 year ago
@pdurr cont
My husband and kids are Jewish. I attend shul with them, we light sabbath candles, I participate in other Jewish events with them but I would not call myself a Jew. I don't feel I am entitled to but folks do see me as part of the Jewish community via my marriage and children.
I am Italian but I'm sure folks from italy would totally dispute that.
we wont find answers if we dont pose questions so i appreciate ur vlogging this
peace
patti
pdurr 1 year ago
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ButterfliesFireflies 1 year ago
@pdurr (cont) Then we discussed about the situation later the day and I told him why do hearing people insult other hearing people by calling each other deaf or dumb? Is deaf/dumb a really bad thing? He doesn't know why either. But calling hearing people "deaf" as an insult sure does show how much they see in deaf people. (cont)
ButterfliesFireflies 1 year ago
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ButterfliesFireflies 1 year ago
btw, hearing people can not go to deaf schools funded by the state, can they?
ButterfliesFireflies 1 year ago
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ButterfliesFireflies 1 year ago
@ButterfliesFireflies No, they can't BUT my son (hearing) really wants to attend-that says a lot.
skyxavier 1 year ago
I like this whole train of thought running through these vlogs because it shows just how people can distinguish someone's externally-identified "category" from their thoughts, beliefs, and actions. This is a vital distinction.
Banerika 1 year ago
What about a person that can hear but is speech impaired? What if a speech impaired person is more comfortable and confident signing and relating to Deaf than living in the hearing world? What if that speech impaired person dislikes being labeled hearing and prefers to be included in Deafhood where he/she will feel normal? Where are these strange birds to belong? What are we to make of them? Should they be accepted into Deafhood...or are they just too hearing? Just wondering...
stutterguy3 1 year ago
@stutterguy3 Good question, SG. I guess it would depend on whether that person still considers themselves as more of a "hearing" person, but just happens to prefer to interact with Deaf due to their speech issues. Also, whether that person supports Deaf values, and if so, how strongly those values were held.
DrDonGCSUS 1 year ago
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ButterfliesFireflies 1 year ago
@ButterfliesFireflies Like me, I can't bring up the uncomfortable topic on Audism to my hearing friends. I'm afraid they wouldn't understand and would avoid me if I did. That Audism doesn't exist even though they know fully well how I was treated in High School. They would say, "oh everyone get picked on" but what if that person is black? would they say the same thing? Anyway, that's one of the experience I had as a deaf person.
ButterfliesFireflies 1 year ago
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ButterfliesFireflies 1 year ago
Ok, Don equates Deaf minds and Deaf hearts to Deafhood, in his opinion, that is good thinking but I remembered Ridor's description of two different CODA categories, pre-ADA and post-ADA.A good subtopic to discuss as part of your main topic?
DeafArch 1 year ago
Hmm. Hearing people with Deafhod, can? I cant answer this question because I have not taken the workshop nor read the book yet. For one to experience Deafhood, does he/she have to be biologically deaf? If so, can we divert a little away from Paddy? Anyway, I can say Hearing people can have the "Deaf heart" and "Deaf mind".
aslnikki 1 year ago
@aslnikki "Deaf Heart" and "Deaf mind" equates with "Deafhood", in my opinion.
DrDonGCSUS 1 year ago
@DrDonGCSUS ...regardless of being Hearing, CODA or Deaf. I see. I like that! My
Hearing friends (who have Deaf-minds) would love to hear this,.
aslnikki 1 year ago
@DrDonGCSUS There are over 15 million people who stutter around the world, and many more with other kinds of speech problems. Many of us who have severe speech problems have spent years and years in speech therapy because our parents and teachers want to prepare us for the speaking world. In 1981, after years of feeling left out in the hearing/speaking world I discovered the Deaf community, learned sign language, married a Deaf woman, and now feel more comfortable and confident as a person!
stutterguy3 7 months ago
@DrDonGCSUS Just like the Deaf, people with severe speech problems want to live and function in an environment where their speech problem is the not the main issue. They don't want to live in an environment where they are always afraid they might have to speak, feeling left out socially, etc. People with a severe speech problem are often very lonely and frustrated because the conversations are often only one way. They can hear what other people say, but don't have the ability to share!
stutterguy3 7 months ago
@DrDonGCSUS The Deaf community is a potential home for people with a severe speech problem. There is a freedom and a joy when the speech problem is no longer an issue. All of a sudden the fear of maybe having to speak, the fear of being involved socially, the hopelessness of never having a normal life begins to fade away. When a person with a severe speech problem learns sign language and begins to live in the Deaf community, that person begins to feel NORMAL!
stutterguy3 7 months ago
@DrDonGCSUS Here's the BIG question? Can or will a person with a severe speech problem TRULY be accepted FULLY into Deafhood? If a person with a severe speech problem does not feel comfortable or confident in the hearing/speaking world...but feels comfortable and confident in the Deaf world...can that person know they will be welcomed into Deafhood with all the rights and privileges?
stutterguy3 7 months ago
Trust my deafhood, you covered it very well. It is not right time due of greatest of oppressions what we are under right now. They people who immersed deaf culture can wait due they do have job. Why job? The money secured them so They ought to be waiting and stay behind us and support us all the way until the right time that we can start to open to hearing people who themselves a deafhood too. I am sorry to say but fact.
TheASLFire 1 year ago
Gallaudet now allow hearing undergraduate students to enroll and become a deaf gallaudet student. Just one requirement was, fluency of ASL to some degree and maybe connections to the Deaf community, I think family or somethng.. That is new and one of a kind ot almost seems, where it is an all Deaf University, and maybe they found Deafhood? It would be a good question..
Bunjer 1 year ago