Nice to have the tools/toys. I used to hang drywall the old fashioned way. Actually nailing it in place. THAT takes a skill. With all the tools we have today it takes the experience out of it. Sad to see so many peoples' skills replaced but that is today's world.
@TwinNova What the heck got into your panties??? All I said was there are a lot more tools to do the job today than back when you had to use more of your hands. You know something else?? I'd kinda actually like to use a bank that way, just to eliminate all the electronic fraud that goes on today! Thanks to technology we're getting ripped off faster than ever! Calling ME a moron?? Are you seven or something?
@jmb69er If you paid someone to take a shit then yes it would be considered a skill. People today get paid for less! Why do you think so many people pay others to hang drywall for them? Because they can't or won't for themselves. It's not rocket science but you can clearly tell the difference between a pro and a weekend warrior when it comes to drywall, taping and spackling. I speak for those who put food on their family's tables doing it.......and proud of it. Why mock a trade?
@wingmanalive Normal studding like in the video drywalling is easy! Here in the UK carpenters/Joiners do a lot of it and they are much better at it then the plasters. Im a carpenter/joiner my self. Yes drywalling can become more difficult like if you had to do curve ceilings and angles etc.
@wingmanalive I hope you dont believe nailing the boards on is better than screws because you will be very wrong. Screws hold 10x better than nails. I proved this after an old carpenter told me nails with large heads are better after he finished nailing his board on this bowed ceiling I went up stuck few screws in it and it pulled the board up leaving the nails stick proud.
@wingmanalive Dnt get me wrong! Der is a need for drywallers cus some jobs der r ALOT of walls 2 drywall and doing it every day they will be quicker and do a better job but end of the day its measure mark and cut and screw it all depends on the person to how well they do the job and how accurate it will all be. Plasterers are the ones who do it normally if their is alot of it but they dont seem to be bothered to do a tidy job I suppose it all gets covered in plaster any way never be seen again
@wingmanalive People/contractors pay mainly for time purposes & correctness,& we all know it's brutal & physically demanding..just getting 100 sheets to its destination in the house is killer !
@rockinar This video shows it done right. While it is easy to hang the lower drywall first, and put the second course on top, it looks like CRAP when the house is finished. The ceiling seam needs to be tight, and the seam at 48", but who cares about the bottom edge? Baseboard covers it. Trust me. Also, drywall shouldn't touch the floor because of water spills. If installing drywall bottom up looked remotely similar, it would be done that way everywhere. Faster? maybe. Worth it? Nope.
@rockinar And it will also get you fired from any quality drywall company (just like using nails instead of screws). At least on the planet where I reside. Feel free to rock your own house that way.
I want that screw gun...It's like the machine gun of screw guns. This is very helpful too, because last time I installed drywall, it seemed way too complicated. lol.
i don't know about these plastic drywall clips but the metal ones can sometimes bend back or strip, resulting in a failure. id say perhaps 5-10% of the time. there for be sure to put them close than you might otherwise.
Also they of course aren't as rigid as a stud.
but they certainly do have their place, and have saved my ass a few times.
Personally I like my Hilti drywall gun. I've used those Senco guns and they feel and look like junk. My gun has been kicked around dropped and everything else over the years and is still going strong.
My father taught me that. the wise man listens, and the fool does not take care. and nothing is perfect because there is always something better. God bless you guys
bottom line.... hanging board doesnt require schooling or any formal training.i hung my first board at the age of 15. that should tell you something, and i dont know how many people ive heard brag and talk shit about how good they are, when all you do is read a tape, cut a board, and stick it to the wall. what else is there? routing boxes? lol...
The other day, i was at my cousin's house and they were showing off their new partition and said it only cost them 900 bucks. I was like are you serious? you could have gone on Youtube and learn how to do it yourself! It was just one wall about 8 by 10 and it was done really badly too.
@Lilgus84 and you wouldnt last a day programming and repairing cnc machines and robotic cells with me. adjusting offsets,clearing faults, and creating fixtures to mass produce parts for major auto manufacturers like bmw, ford, gm, and tesla. drywall is cake compared to what i do chump.i design pcd tooling that cost more than what you make in six months. dont talk shit like drywall is something only a select few can do, and i bet money you are not the master you think you are.
@NIZDISDIK and it looks like shit too. Please don't ever hang drywall yourself, you'll just be another butcher boarder who thinks he knows what he is doing. And those clips are shit too!
@unpredictable420 lol... like i said....everyone who hangs board thinks they are gods gift to drywall. there is only one right way to do it and its their way. everyone else is shit, when they are no better than someone who just started hanging board. it doesnt matter what your hangin looks like because it all gets mud on it. thats why the mexicans have taken over the whole trade. looks like shit but its dirt cheap and mud will cover it..... so in reality, no skill is involved.
@NIZDISDIK I believe that. I did a Oakelys shop in West Edmonton mall here in Edmonton Canada, The guy was from Texas running the job. Him and his wife travelled in a nice RV doing these stores and he told me the same thing. Mexicans are taking over the trade down there and the quality of work is well...not so good. We did a half ass job on the store because of time allowed for us to finish. The guy form Texas was thrilled on how good it was and we thought "It must be really bad down there"
Oh, gee.. what do you know... The Gypsum Association actually did a study on shear value of drywall hung perpendicular and parallel. I am surprised by their results and conclusions. Here's a quote: "
The following conclusions can be drawn from these tests:
"All other conditions being equal...
2. Shear values for parallel application exceed those for perpendicular application"
A lot of guys say perpendicular is stronger, but no one provides ANY evidence of it... because they can't.
Another thing-WHERES THE GLUE? No wonder you see so many houses crumpling like origami in a strong storm. Unfortunately most houses these days are sheathed with foam and MAY only have plywood around the corners and doors so drywall strength DOES matter. Hanging horizontally and gluing the rock gives the structure more integrity PERIOD. Of course we all know ANYone can hang drywall, right?
@evolve991 Anyone who thinks that drywall, glued or not, adds ANY significant strength to a structure should get out of the business IMMEDIATELY. Structural insulated panels and OSB on the corners has been proven a million times. So has the uselessness of drywall in adding strength to a structure.
@TomKaren1994 anyone who thinks a debate on Youtube proves they know anything about anything should get a life. How many tacos do you heat on your dash?
I've hung thousands of sheets of drywall... the only time I've hung the drywall horizontally is when I was spanning a chimney in an old house. I've never understood hanging the drywall horizontally.
@TomKaren1994 Structural stability, if you hang the drywall with the longest length going from left to right (Horizontally) you are crossing more studs along the length of the wall at 8, 10 or 12 foot lengths (depending on the size of DW material used) with less butt joints at the studs. Also the butt joints are only 4 ft vertically, since the next row above the joint has a staggered solid piece. When mounted vertically as you suggest, the joint on the stud is longer and thus weaker.
I don't buy it. If you have a 4x8 sheet... hanging horizontally on 16" c-c studs gives you 28 linear feet of stud behind the drywall. Hanging it vertically gives you 32 linear feet. As far as weak seams on vertical sheets goes... like I said, I've hung thousands of sheets of drywall and I've never once had a seam come apart, split, crack, or had the tape peel. If someone wants to hang drywall horizontally by choice, fine, but this "horizontal is better" stuff is bunk.
@TomKaren1994 Im was thinking the same thing but I have never done this before and want to do my moms house for her. Please tell me how to do it your way ..... Thanks for your time.
First, don't listen to this "resists racking better" or other stuff. Total BS. I have NEVER ONCE had "racking" with vertically-hung drywall, EVER. There are two big reasons to NOT do horizontal: 1) baseboard; 2) joining the ceiling. You DO NOT want to have a factory edge in a corner or at the top or bottom. It's a pain to tape/ finish. Measure, subtract 1/4", use a bar to lift, drive screws. Done. Work in a house with a 9' or 10' ceiling and see who has less taping to do.
@TomKaren1994 More strength in most situations. No joints. You can get up to 16' long sheets. Most finishers cry about bad breaking studs. We stand up some walls especially where it leaves only a small bevel joint above a door but for the most part finishers want NO joints. Personally I hang it whichever way gives the least joints.
@evolve991 If there's no joints, what do I need the finishers for? The reason finishers want no joints is that they're paid by the job, or by the SF. Pay them by the hour, and they couldn't care less. I've told mine that if they want to work with me, this is the way it is. But now at least we know the REAL reason people hang horizontal... the finishers' bitchin'. And strength has nothing to do with it. Strength for what? If a house is going to settle or rack, drywall will not stop it.
@TomKaren1994 Sorry I was under the impression that your rooms had corners in them as well as flat walls. Didn't say " TO KEEP FROM RACKING". Yes avoiding joints keeps the finishers from bitching. When it is high end finishers calling with work thats who you please. Sorry man I've only been hanging for 26 years and I'm not a Youtube Star
@evolve991 I get my work from the homeowners and generals, not the finishers. I don't give work to or take work from anyone who believes that faster and better for the contractor is faster and better for the end customer. And that is what these finishers you're talking about believe... it's all about them. But, it's not about the strength of the structure, the wall, or anything else.
@TomKaren1994 Cause there's less seems when you do it horizontally, also its best to try and not have a big seem in the middle of the wall if you can avoid it.
Doing it your way means more taping and seems, what's not to get???
@TomKaren1994 On a house locking the studs with a full sheet length wise will give more strength to that wall than standing them up and having the joint every for 4feet of that wall. The drywall joint is the weak spot, laying the sheet down will eliminate weakness and giving the wall more strength considering most exterior houses get 8' sheets of plywood on the exterior.
@unpredictable420 If you believe that drywall adds any significant strength regardless of how you hang it, I do not want you working for me. You might as well believe that houses are held up by an army of little angels all around the house.
By the way, the association of drywall manufacturers have done studies that prove you wrong.
I've said it before... if you like hanging drywall that direction, fine, but don't claim it adds strength. It doesn't.
@TomKaren1994 Dont worry tom, a hard ass like yourself I would not work for, I wouldn't last cause I would tell you to take a hike. Secondly, who the fuck wants to tape a joint EVERY 4 FEET on 8 or 9 foot walls. The only time you do stands ups is in commercial work, all beveled joints should land on a stud for fire rating purposes using 5/8" type X gypsup. If I saw you do stand ups in a house I would fire your ass for not knowing what the hell you are doing.
@unpredictable420 The argument isn't whether it's convenient. The argument is whether it ADDS STRENGTH... which it DOES NOT.
If you have a 12x8 wall. I'll have 3 verticals (no factory seams in corners) and unless you're hanging 12-foot sheets (good luck getting that into a remodel job) you've got 1 12-ft horizontal seam and a vertical. if you've got a 10-ft ceiling, your taping 'efficiency' is gone... with a factory edge along the top at the bottom for your baseboard guy to contend with.
@TomKaren1994 YOu can still box a joint at 8' and at 4'. It's called stilts??? Now you have 3 joints to tape at 10'. It's hard on the back and shoulders for a taper to box verticals all day then to box Horizontals. Hey man it's your body and not mine. And if they are having problems with baseboard, the project is cheap or a rental unit. All base in the housing i do is 2.5" or bigger. Bevel on the bottom of the wall is never a problem.
@fanodogg to everyone, use screws on ceiling and use nails on walls. when having to remodel those nails are easy to remove but those screws are a bi!@h to remove.
If your are hanging it alone, why would you want to start putting the top panel first? I but the bottom one in so I can then rest my upper panel on it and hold it with one hand, .
@Ontopofitall because you want the leftover gap to be at the bottom....otherwise your top edge ends up looking like crap...if it is at the bottom you can hide it behind trim. =)
On the smaller wall, how come he didn't hang it vertically so there would be no seams? I'm not trying to judge either, I am preparing to hang drywall myself and would like to know if there is a proper way to layout the pieces!
@mission762008 He could have hung the sheet vertical. But lets say you have a long run to hang. Had he hung all the sheets vertically you would see waves in the wall when you sight it from one end. You can see every seem when you hang vertically on long runs. Its just better to hang horizontally if you can. Short runs can get vertical pieces if its one piece going there, or closets.
From the video, it looks like the screwgun is the Senco DS275-18. The Senco works like a dream and has some of the best reviews of all the cordless drywall guns out there.
What Auto-Drill is that the brand I mean, and the screw belt capacity, I'm considering buying one. The Makita tool repair friend of mine, told me that they break often and can cause a lot of headache. What brand is that screwgun, and also have you had any issues with them in the past? And does it have a depth setting, so as not to go to deep into the drywall? Also are the screws much more expensive then regular buckets of drywall screws?
since no one has yet to post a comment on any of these fine...fine homebuilding tips, let me be the first. me likey the plastic dry clips thing, i'm gonna have totry that. what i like to do when i cut drywall sheets, is to score the front, crack it and then cut on the reverse side just about a foot long, in the middle of the board and then 'snap!' the sheet. not that its any better than what you do...but it looks way cool to the inexperienced onlooker...
No wonder houses blow away with the smallest storm!
PilotVBall 1 day ago
DO NOT EVER TRY TO DO DRYWALL WORK IN YOUR OWN HOUSE YOU WILL F>>> IT UP... Have a real Drywaller do it....
TurboDLT 1 week ago
You make it look so easy... I want your drill btw
CNDdubstep 2 weeks ago
Great video
plumberx 3 weeks ago
Good tip about pre marking the drywall. However, my studs are wonky and crooked. Good time at my estate!
powershop1903 1 month ago
Nice to have the tools/toys. I used to hang drywall the old fashioned way. Actually nailing it in place. THAT takes a skill. With all the tools we have today it takes the experience out of it. Sad to see so many peoples' skills replaced but that is today's world.
wingmanalive 1 month ago
@wingmanalive What a stupid comment. Go sign up at a bank that still uses paper book keeping then moron.
TwinNova 1 month ago
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@TwinNova What the heck got into your panties??? All I said was there are a lot more tools to do the job today than back when you had to use more of your hands. You know something else?? I'd kinda actually like to use a bank that way, just to eliminate all the electronic fraud that goes on today! Thanks to technology we're getting ripped off faster than ever! Calling ME a moron?? Are you seven or something?
wingmanalive 4 weeks ago
@wingmanalive
Well if you think hanging drywall is a skill in the first place then sitting on the toilet having a shit is a skill
jmb69er 2 weeks ago
@jmb69er If you paid someone to take a shit then yes it would be considered a skill. People today get paid for less! Why do you think so many people pay others to hang drywall for them? Because they can't or won't for themselves. It's not rocket science but you can clearly tell the difference between a pro and a weekend warrior when it comes to drywall, taping and spackling. I speak for those who put food on their family's tables doing it.......and proud of it. Why mock a trade?
wingmanalive 2 weeks ago
@wingmanalive Normal studding like in the video drywalling is easy! Here in the UK carpenters/Joiners do a lot of it and they are much better at it then the plasters. Im a carpenter/joiner my self. Yes drywalling can become more difficult like if you had to do curve ceilings and angles etc.
jmb69er 1 week ago
@wingmanalive I hope you dont believe nailing the boards on is better than screws because you will be very wrong. Screws hold 10x better than nails. I proved this after an old carpenter told me nails with large heads are better after he finished nailing his board on this bowed ceiling I went up stuck few screws in it and it pulled the board up leaving the nails stick proud.
jmb69er 1 week ago
@wingmanalive Dnt get me wrong! Der is a need for drywallers cus some jobs der r ALOT of walls 2 drywall and doing it every day they will be quicker and do a better job but end of the day its measure mark and cut and screw it all depends on the person to how well they do the job and how accurate it will all be. Plasterers are the ones who do it normally if their is alot of it but they dont seem to be bothered to do a tidy job I suppose it all gets covered in plaster any way never be seen again
jmb69er 1 week ago
@wingmanalive People/contractors pay mainly for time purposes & correctness,& we all know it's brutal & physically demanding..just getting 100 sheets to its destination in the house is killer !
tjfreak 1 week ago
@jmb69er It is a skill,like roofing, tiling.. planning,mathmatics,fast, efficient, cost effective,right - once, & move on
tjfreak 1 week ago
@jmb69er So you've never done it, then? Fascinating....
nimrodery 6 days ago
This video made me laugh. . . just saying. Btw, Hilti ftw. . .
houlio234 1 month ago
Ryobi screw gun = GARBAGE. Also, it's easier to sheet from bottom to top so you can rest the top sheet on the bottom one.
rockinar 1 month ago
@rockinar This video shows it done right. While it is easy to hang the lower drywall first, and put the second course on top, it looks like CRAP when the house is finished. The ceiling seam needs to be tight, and the seam at 48", but who cares about the bottom edge? Baseboard covers it. Trust me. Also, drywall shouldn't touch the floor because of water spills. If installing drywall bottom up looked remotely similar, it would be done that way everywhere. Faster? maybe. Worth it? Nope.
midasallen 1 month ago 3
@rockinar And it will also get you fired from any quality drywall company (just like using nails instead of screws). At least on the planet where I reside. Feel free to rock your own house that way.
nimrodery 6 days ago
Thanks for this.
libertarianbastard 3 months ago
@TomKaren1994 - thanks for the insight... always good to hear other points of view
web3dot3 3 months ago
so slow with that screw gun
licsinmex3 3 months ago
There are better collated screw guns available than the cheapo this guys using
atown327 4 months ago 2
Nice framing. Try doing this in a 100 year old house.. Doesn't go as smoothly
fattymcfatfatism 4 months ago
@fattymcfatfatism so true... im a drywaller
tytoop17 1 month ago
You stapled on the drywall clips, but did not explain how that allows you to leave out the third stud.
bed51 4 months ago
I want that screw gun...It's like the machine gun of screw guns. This is very helpful too, because last time I installed drywall, it seemed way too complicated. lol.
julieannaClark 4 months ago
i don't know about these plastic drywall clips but the metal ones can sometimes bend back or strip, resulting in a failure. id say perhaps 5-10% of the time. there for be sure to put them close than you might otherwise.
Also they of course aren't as rigid as a stud.
but they certainly do have their place, and have saved my ass a few times.
axa88888888 4 months ago
what kind of screw gun are you using? wallpro?
murfdogga 4 months ago
Ah, another epeen thread!
javaguy418 5 months ago
please come to drywall talk.com, and share your wisdom oh master drywaller
The dark side awaits
2buckcanuck 5 months ago
this is a fantastic video, very informative, one of the best I've seen, thanks
seacoastauto 5 months ago
Very nice video. The gun looks very useful -- and I didn't realize that hanging drywall was so easy! Thank you!
forrie 6 months ago
THAT GUN!!! I need one for the ceilings. So i wont have to reach for a screw in my tool belt, place it on the wobbly tip, then miss the stud XD lol
kopa6464 6 months ago
@kopa6464 you'll still miss the (stud?) joist.
captaindrywall 5 months ago
Personally I like my Hilti drywall gun. I've used those Senco guns and they feel and look like junk. My gun has been kicked around dropped and everything else over the years and is still going strong.
Gngrcpl 6 months ago
I was like he's using nails? Then it's a scew gun I want that. I having to put on in at a time then you drop them it's just a mess.
shanemkelley 6 months ago
Thanks for taking the time to do the video. Looks good.
unclematt3 6 months ago
My father taught me that. the wise man listens, and the fool does not take care. and nothing is perfect because there is always something better. God bless you guys
SardukarXD 7 months ago
I am a young guy and I'm learning and I think that hard work makes the master
SardukarXD 7 months ago
bottom line.... hanging board doesnt require schooling or any formal training.i hung my first board at the age of 15. that should tell you something, and i dont know how many people ive heard brag and talk shit about how good they are, when all you do is read a tape, cut a board, and stick it to the wall. what else is there? routing boxes? lol...
NIZDISDIK 7 months ago
@NIZDISDIK lol I agree!
The other day, i was at my cousin's house and they were showing off their new partition and said it only cost them 900 bucks. I was like are you serious? you could have gone on Youtube and learn how to do it yourself! It was just one wall about 8 by 10 and it was done really badly too.
TheCoolfez 6 months ago
One more thing NIZISDIK, here in our nice little housing bubble, you don't do good work, well you just don't work.
unpredictable420 7 months ago
mrditothedoublezy, I believe Myron uses a Senco DS275 18V cordless driver. Take a look in the FineHomebuilding tool guide or on Amazon
finehomebuilding 7 months ago
@finehomebuilding
what is tool you use for hang the bottom board? where can i get it?
ross19881122 3 months ago
that is the best screw gun every where do i find that at
mrditothedoublezy 7 months ago
@nisdisdik u wouldn't last a day hanging boards with me. No skill? U don't know WTF your talking about.
Lilgus84 7 months ago
@Lilgus84 yeah...like i said no skill.
NIZDISDIK 7 months ago
@Lilgus84 and you wouldnt last a day programming and repairing cnc machines and robotic cells with me. adjusting offsets,clearing faults, and creating fixtures to mass produce parts for major auto manufacturers like bmw, ford, gm, and tesla. drywall is cake compared to what i do chump.i design pcd tooling that cost more than what you make in six months. dont talk shit like drywall is something only a select few can do, and i bet money you are not the master you think you are.
NIZDISDIK 5 months ago
You hang Sheetrock vertically on commercial jobs. Residential is horizontal or "railroad" the boards.
Lilgus84 7 months ago
what type of gun is that? anyone knows?
jayreallyis 8 months ago
Well damn I wanted to see a How to vid not a..look how much more efficient and faster I am then you...lol j/p. Looks good
boiprof 8 months ago
lol..everyone always thinks they are gods gift to drywall. monkeys can hang board...no real skill involved.
NIZDISDIK 8 months ago
@NIZDISDIK and it looks like shit too. Please don't ever hang drywall yourself, you'll just be another butcher boarder who thinks he knows what he is doing. And those clips are shit too!
unpredictable420 7 months ago
@unpredictable420 lol... like i said....everyone who hangs board thinks they are gods gift to drywall. there is only one right way to do it and its their way. everyone else is shit, when they are no better than someone who just started hanging board. it doesnt matter what your hangin looks like because it all gets mud on it. thats why the mexicans have taken over the whole trade. looks like shit but its dirt cheap and mud will cover it..... so in reality, no skill is involved.
NIZDISDIK 7 months ago 2
@NIZDISDIK I believe that. I did a Oakelys shop in West Edmonton mall here in Edmonton Canada, The guy was from Texas running the job. Him and his wife travelled in a nice RV doing these stores and he told me the same thing. Mexicans are taking over the trade down there and the quality of work is well...not so good. We did a half ass job on the store because of time allowed for us to finish. The guy form Texas was thrilled on how good it was and we thought "It must be really bad down there"
unpredictable420 7 months ago
@NIZDISDIK everyone thinks , as a taper i can say, your wrong.
captaindrywall 5 months ago
@captaindrywall taper? you mean like finisher? lmao...
NIZDISDIK 5 months ago
Oh, gee.. what do you know... The Gypsum Association actually did a study on shear value of drywall hung perpendicular and parallel. I am surprised by their results and conclusions. Here's a quote: "
The following conclusions can be drawn from these tests:
"All other conditions being equal...
2. Shear values for parallel application exceed those for perpendicular application"
A lot of guys say perpendicular is stronger, but no one provides ANY evidence of it... because they can't.
TomKaren1994 8 months ago
Another thing-WHERES THE GLUE? No wonder you see so many houses crumpling like origami in a strong storm. Unfortunately most houses these days are sheathed with foam and MAY only have plywood around the corners and doors so drywall strength DOES matter. Hanging horizontally and gluing the rock gives the structure more integrity PERIOD. Of course we all know ANYone can hang drywall, right?
evolve991 8 months ago
@evolve991 Anyone who thinks that drywall, glued or not, adds ANY significant strength to a structure should get out of the business IMMEDIATELY. Structural insulated panels and OSB on the corners has been proven a million times. So has the uselessness of drywall in adding strength to a structure.
TomKaren1994 8 months ago
@TomKaren1994 anyone who thinks a debate on Youtube proves they know anything about anything should get a life. How many tacos do you heat on your dash?
evolve991 8 months ago
@TomKaren1994 and that's why few modern homes survive hurricanes right? Or even just strong T-storms
evolve991 8 months ago
I've hung thousands of sheets of drywall... the only time I've hung the drywall horizontally is when I was spanning a chimney in an old house. I've never understood hanging the drywall horizontally.
TomKaren1994 9 months ago
@TomKaren1994 Structural stability, if you hang the drywall with the longest length going from left to right (Horizontally) you are crossing more studs along the length of the wall at 8, 10 or 12 foot lengths (depending on the size of DW material used) with less butt joints at the studs. Also the butt joints are only 4 ft vertically, since the next row above the joint has a staggered solid piece. When mounted vertically as you suggest, the joint on the stud is longer and thus weaker.
EchosFromaBlankMind 9 months ago
@EchosFromaBlankMind
I don't buy it. If you have a 4x8 sheet... hanging horizontally on 16" c-c studs gives you 28 linear feet of stud behind the drywall. Hanging it vertically gives you 32 linear feet. As far as weak seams on vertical sheets goes... like I said, I've hung thousands of sheets of drywall and I've never once had a seam come apart, split, crack, or had the tape peel. If someone wants to hang drywall horizontally by choice, fine, but this "horizontal is better" stuff is bunk.
TomKaren1994 9 months ago
@TomKaren1994 This is a two section answer from USG's own instructions:
Gypsum board may be applied perpendicular (long edges of board at
right angles to the framing members) or parallel (long edges parallel
to framing). Fire-rated partitions may require parallel application. (See
Chapter 10 for specific information on fire-rated systems.)
Perpendicular application is generally preferred because it offers the
following advantages:
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EchosFromaBlankMind 9 months ago
@TomKaren1994 (Continued from previous comment)
1. Reduces the lineal footage of joints to be treated by up to
25%.
2. Strongest dimension of board runs across framing members.
3. Bridges irregularities in alignment and spacing of frame members.
4. Better bracing strength—each board ties more frame members together than does parallel application.
5. Horizontal joints on wall are at a convenient height for finishing.
Horizontal also resists racking better than vertical. But Vert is also OK
EchosFromaBlankMind 9 months ago
@TomKaren1994 LMAO If all jobs were standup I'd only need help with ceilings! And I've never saw a lift do better than 2 hangers on lids.
evolve991 8 months ago
@TomKaren1994 Im was thinking the same thing but I have never done this before and want to do my moms house for her. Please tell me how to do it your way ..... Thanks for your time.
fortvalor 9 months ago
@fortvalor
First, don't listen to this "resists racking better" or other stuff. Total BS. I have NEVER ONCE had "racking" with vertically-hung drywall, EVER. There are two big reasons to NOT do horizontal: 1) baseboard; 2) joining the ceiling. You DO NOT want to have a factory edge in a corner or at the top or bottom. It's a pain to tape/ finish. Measure, subtract 1/4", use a bar to lift, drive screws. Done. Work in a house with a 9' or 10' ceiling and see who has less taping to do.
TomKaren1994 9 months ago
@TomKaren1994 More strength in most situations. No joints. You can get up to 16' long sheets. Most finishers cry about bad breaking studs. We stand up some walls especially where it leaves only a small bevel joint above a door but for the most part finishers want NO joints. Personally I hang it whichever way gives the least joints.
evolve991 8 months ago
@evolve991 If there's no joints, what do I need the finishers for? The reason finishers want no joints is that they're paid by the job, or by the SF. Pay them by the hour, and they couldn't care less. I've told mine that if they want to work with me, this is the way it is. But now at least we know the REAL reason people hang horizontal... the finishers' bitchin'. And strength has nothing to do with it. Strength for what? If a house is going to settle or rack, drywall will not stop it.
TomKaren1994 8 months ago
@TomKaren1994 Sorry I was under the impression that your rooms had corners in them as well as flat walls. Didn't say " TO KEEP FROM RACKING". Yes avoiding joints keeps the finishers from bitching. When it is high end finishers calling with work thats who you please. Sorry man I've only been hanging for 26 years and I'm not a Youtube Star
evolve991 8 months ago
@evolve991 I get my work from the homeowners and generals, not the finishers. I don't give work to or take work from anyone who believes that faster and better for the contractor is faster and better for the end customer. And that is what these finishers you're talking about believe... it's all about them. But, it's not about the strength of the structure, the wall, or anything else.
TomKaren1994 8 months ago
@TomKaren1994 Cause there's less seems when you do it horizontally, also its best to try and not have a big seem in the middle of the wall if you can avoid it.
Doing it your way means more taping and seems, what's not to get???
BiOhArArDvsElement 8 months ago
@TomKaren1994 I am just the opposite. I have never seen anyone hang drywall vertically.
edhombre 8 months ago
@TomKaren1994 On a house locking the studs with a full sheet length wise will give more strength to that wall than standing them up and having the joint every for 4feet of that wall. The drywall joint is the weak spot, laying the sheet down will eliminate weakness and giving the wall more strength considering most exterior houses get 8' sheets of plywood on the exterior.
unpredictable420 7 months ago
@unpredictable420 If you believe that drywall adds any significant strength regardless of how you hang it, I do not want you working for me. You might as well believe that houses are held up by an army of little angels all around the house.
By the way, the association of drywall manufacturers have done studies that prove you wrong.
I've said it before... if you like hanging drywall that direction, fine, but don't claim it adds strength. It doesn't.
TomKaren1994 7 months ago
@TomKaren1994 Dont worry tom, a hard ass like yourself I would not work for, I wouldn't last cause I would tell you to take a hike. Secondly, who the fuck wants to tape a joint EVERY 4 FEET on 8 or 9 foot walls. The only time you do stands ups is in commercial work, all beveled joints should land on a stud for fire rating purposes using 5/8" type X gypsup. If I saw you do stand ups in a house I would fire your ass for not knowing what the hell you are doing.
unpredictable420 7 months ago
@unpredictable420 The argument isn't whether it's convenient. The argument is whether it ADDS STRENGTH... which it DOES NOT.
If you have a 12x8 wall. I'll have 3 verticals (no factory seams in corners) and unless you're hanging 12-foot sheets (good luck getting that into a remodel job) you've got 1 12-ft horizontal seam and a vertical. if you've got a 10-ft ceiling, your taping 'efficiency' is gone... with a factory edge along the top at the bottom for your baseboard guy to contend with.
TomKaren1994 7 months ago
@TomKaren1994 YOu can still box a joint at 8' and at 4'. It's called stilts??? Now you have 3 joints to tape at 10'. It's hard on the back and shoulders for a taper to box verticals all day then to box Horizontals. Hey man it's your body and not mine. And if they are having problems with baseboard, the project is cheap or a rental unit. All base in the housing i do is 2.5" or bigger. Bevel on the bottom of the wall is never a problem.
unpredictable420 7 months ago 2
Myron, your a drywall master! Your book taught me how to drywall my whole house and saved a bundle in the process!
flyingrv6 10 months ago
Thanks for the tips!
gmd1417 10 months ago
I want the gun where can I buy it?
ICOOKNICE 10 months ago
Everyone thinks they can hang drywal lol.
woodsbydesigns 1 year ago
That his a ridiculously cool screw gun
fanodogg 1 year ago 31
@fanodogg to everyone, use screws on ceiling and use nails on walls. when having to remodel those nails are easy to remove but those screws are a bi!@h to remove.
onenikkione 6 months ago
this guy look like da dentist from the movie the hangover.............lmao
blackned21 1 year ago
The screw gun is really cool.
usmodel1 1 year ago
If your are hanging it alone, why would you want to start putting the top panel first? I but the bottom one in so I can then rest my upper panel on it and hold it with one hand, .
Ontopofitall 1 year ago
@Ontopofitall because you want the leftover gap to be at the bottom....otherwise your top edge ends up looking like crap...if it is at the bottom you can hide it behind trim. =)
BlazterX 1 year ago
@BlazterX true, hehe I had in mind that I am hiding the top of my walls with suspended Ceilings good point didn't think about that !
Ontopofitall 1 year ago
@Ontopofitall you want it tight aginst the ceiling. drywall should never touch the subfloor, it wicks water up the panel.
captaindrywall 5 months ago
nice gun
holywar911 1 year ago
I actually learned a lot. Re-doing the crap drywall in my manuctured houses closets.
viper8red 1 year ago
where can i get one of thoses screw guns
TheGoodNblack 1 year ago
@TheGoodNblack You can google them. It is a Senco cordless drywall screwgun. I saw a 14v model on Amazon for $150
kstinson 1 year ago
That was sweet how he marked stud location @1:00. You are a master of your trade and a very good teacher. Please keep makeing videos!
MrCandew 1 year ago
Thanks for this, great tips, I've always scored the back side, but as you say, why bother?
Lucassmithre 1 year ago
thats an awesome drill, what kind is that ?
Web2525 1 year ago
@Web2525 I think it's a Senco DuraSpin DS275-18v.
whiskeyjack57 1 year ago
well done sir!
joel383 1 year ago
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mission762008 1 year ago
On the smaller wall, how come he didn't hang it vertically so there would be no seams? I'm not trying to judge either, I am preparing to hang drywall myself and would like to know if there is a proper way to layout the pieces!
mission762008 1 year ago
@mission762008 He could have hung the sheet vertical. But lets say you have a long run to hang. Had he hung all the sheets vertically you would see waves in the wall when you sight it from one end. You can see every seem when you hang vertically on long runs. Its just better to hang horizontally if you can. Short runs can get vertical pieces if its one piece going there, or closets.
toolman1108 1 year ago
@toolman1108 some ares wont alowe that becuase code sais you must have the close factory end on the bottom
MrNJZA80 1 year ago
Great video about ready to jump into project and this helped!
IceFrog98 1 year ago
To freesilver17:
It's a footlifter, available at all drywall centers and most big box stores as well.
finehomebuilding 1 year ago
@finehomebuilding known by hangers as a "kicker" or "lift"
evolve991 8 months ago
What is that thing on the floor that you use to keep the bottom piece off of the floor?
freesilver17 1 year ago
Nice screw gun..
mordeth141 1 year ago
When hanging drywall. Should I always start with the ceiling first?
ravenous30 1 year ago
@ravenous30
yes
timbo805 1 year ago
From the video, it looks like the screwgun is the Senco DS275-18. The Senco works like a dream and has some of the best reviews of all the cordless drywall guns out there.
yearofthect 1 year ago
What Auto-Drill is that the brand I mean, and the screw belt capacity, I'm considering buying one. The Makita tool repair friend of mine, told me that they break often and can cause a lot of headache. What brand is that screwgun, and also have you had any issues with them in the past? And does it have a depth setting, so as not to go to deep into the drywall? Also are the screws much more expensive then regular buckets of drywall screws?
Great Tips, best video I've seen thusfar.
ajm751 1 year ago
Thank you for the video, It is handy to have and see.
SEEPRICE 2 years ago
hi there
i have a quistion
does it matter how u the dry wall
i mean when u put it u put dry wall in vertical can i put it in horizontal
theghost40 2 years ago
on wood lay down and steel stuud stand up
81Ladylove 11 months ago
since no one has yet to post a comment on any of these fine...fine homebuilding tips, let me be the first. me likey the plastic dry clips thing, i'm gonna have totry that. what i like to do when i cut drywall sheets, is to score the front, crack it and then cut on the reverse side just about a foot long, in the middle of the board and then 'snap!' the sheet. not that its any better than what you do...but it looks way cool to the inexperienced onlooker...
fuckingamikek 2 years ago