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  • I am 100% against the Department of Homeland Opression.

  • The arrogance and blatant disreguard of civil rights is crazy.The TSA is completely out of control.

  • So much for the land of free

  • britain does not make peope on the street go through portable xrays. we still respect people's right to privacy. we have one scanner in one airport and the alternative patdown is stil the same barely touching.

  • @CharnaLupin ADOLPH HITLERS SEPTIC SERVICE MAN

  • I feel like this had a lot to do with stopping americans from traveling. To keep the us dollars in the us, and keep americans from realizing how great other countries have it. If you look at european counties and what they look like compared to america it's like america is a developing nation.

  • You did the right thing John you tell em!!!! I say we set up a legal expense donation.

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  • Wow. So just in the short time since this has been filmed...things have gotten much worse.

  • So does anyone have an update as to what's going on??

  • eight people are fucking nazi's and I need to get my Beretta and put a fucking bullet through their skull

  • "In general people tend to have short attention spans, I had an interview canceled on me this morning because Prince William announced his engagement." Exactly, people are too STUPID to continue to care and do something about it. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!

  • tsa is a joke

  • tsa is a joke do not fly

  • fgf

  • THE TSA IS A FUKN JOKE.JUST STOP FLYING AND WATCH THESE ASSHLOES GO UNDER.WHERE THEY BELONG

  • FUCK THE TSA

  • 8 people work for the tsa

  • He technically never "Started" the search so there argument is bogus.

  • Blind obedience to arbitrary "authority" wearing some official-looking costume is a mental dysfunction. 

  • Fight TSA back and counter sue them for $10 million. Show them no mercy.

  • I think everyone should shout, swear and be as difficult as possible in the security checks. Make the procedure slow and stressing to the TSA workers. Give them hard time and show you HATE what they do.

    Refuse the security checks.

    And if possible, don't fly!

  • ONCE YOU FREE YOUR MIND, THE REST OF YOU WILL

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    STOPPING THE CONGRESS APPROVED TSA

    AND THE MOLESTING OF OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN

    What no TV, Radio, or Attorney will tell you is that you can say no!

    WE LIVE IN “The Constitutional United States of America”

    Learn the hows and whys to deny TSA your consent and be free from being molested

    TSA TRUTHS.doc (the link is in the profile box of donotconsent83, pass it on)

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  • the only way to stop this is by boycotting them... lets make the 20th of December a day to remember. please rate this and repost

  • "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

    --Benjamin Franklin, written shortly before Feb. 17, 1775, as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly.

  • sunarmy.co.uk /sa2.php

  • TSA = Touch Some Ass

  • TSA ~ Tyrannical Sexual Assault

  • We already have a law that BANS the TSA policies & procedures but our congress is NOT abiding by it,

    OUR 4th Amendment

    The right of the people to be SECURE in their PERSONS, houses, papers, and effects, against UNREASONABLE SEARCHES and seizures, SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED, and NO WARRANTS shall issue, but upon PROBABLE CAUSE, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

  • Transportation Sex Administration

  • Additional concerns for those that travel for business. For a personal vacation I could personally elect to refuse the TSAs ridiculous security measures, refund my ticket, and leave (as John did here). But if someone is traveling for their job, they would be concerned that being declined travel at the airport could negatively impact their employment. Missing a significant meeting or conference could definitely jeopardize things with ones employer. So business people may feel they have no choice

  • Just move to Canada. There's plenty of room and we'd be happy to have you.

  • 9-11, T.S.A.,  U.S. GOVERNMENT;

    ISRAELI-ZIONIST-NAZI-TERRORIST­-DEVIL

    WORLD-OWNERS IN ACTION. WAKE UP.

    LEARN THE TRUTH. PRAISE GOD.

  • Today's "protesting" was declared a BIG BUST

    Once again, Sanity prevails in the end

  • Dr. Steven Smith, the inventor of the scanner, admitted under oath in a class-action against the Cal. Dept of Corrections, that the exposure to radiation is a minimum of 11 mrems (4 per front, 4 per back and 1.5 per side). The government is lying to the public and "reinventing" science. Plus, backscatter X-ray is NOT dispersed evenly throughout the body. It affects primarily your SKIN. Can you spell SKIN CANCER?

  • @urbiznessnoneof : Can you spell BOLOGNA RHETORIC? The scanner equals standing outside for an hour or two minutes at 30,000 feet.

  • Good for John Tyner! These new procedures are far too invasive and does nothing to stop the real threats to our safety.

  • Thumb's up if you believe this man to be a hero! Thumb's up if you also agree with the overhead speaker when it says: "Security is everyone's responsibility.. To ensure that neither you nor your neighbor are further opressed by this Nazi regime, YOU, as a Citizen, will uphold the Law and abide by your duty as an American Citizen, support, protect and perform noncombatant service to defend the U.S. Constitution from all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC!" 

  • If Alex, or any others of you maniacal miscreants, are able to fit 1 lb or more of an explosive device into your anus and ... still be able to walk, talk and board a plane, I'd say that you have superhuman capabilities that must be recognized beyond just a mention here. Gives a whole new perspective to the term, 'talented twat'.

  • GO JOHN GO !!!!

  • Junk must be too small and has to point it out that it's there. Remember 9/11/01 people.

  • @JSim3058 bahhhhhhhhhhh bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • @JSim3058 9/11 should be no justification for being forced to undertake a pat down. I understand that the TSA agents use a back hand appoach but nobody wants their family members being touched by others. The entire process is a bit rediculous.

  • @ecapskcab76 It's not backhand anymore friend. And it's not just the patdown which is the problem. These people are out of control, slamming passengers againts walls, screaming at everyone, and generally acting as if we are all inmates and they are prison gaurds.

  • "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Bengamin Franklin

    TSA has to stop harassing US!

  • @donotconsent83

    lol..... your statement that you just walked past security is crazy.... that is all that neeeds to be said! 

  • Wholesome looking "Joe Mormon" type fellow with a lovely smile, that's why he was singled out of the crowd and nuisanced in public, it's a Psyop to reign in the public sector mentally, done by our own government, a mental shoving match hoping for a riot. Don't participate by getting angry and pushing back.

  • @ donotconsent83

    thanks for proving my point!

  • @rodis21 What is your point? did you read the Document?

  • frame up....this rush limbaugh wanna be is a fool....if you dont accept the pat down, (not fondled).....you will not pass security and could face fines....pretty clear....this is just a republican neo-con starting stress.....you guy are horrible people.....its sad that people like you ABUSE you right to freedom of speech!.....keep telling haly truths!

  • @rodis21 ARE YOU A TSA EMPLOYEE? YOU SOUND LIKE ONE, IT IS HARD TO TELL, I CAN NOT READ JUNKIDISH!

  • The Goverment is talking about excluding Muslim from the body scan and pat downs. Because the muslim woman can not be touched or violated in any way. Why should they get a pass? When they are the ones who started all of this mess!

  • @MrSlyRedFox Urban myth.

  • just give the old fellow a little tug while your in line, wear no underpants (perhaps a sarong), then request a pat down and pretend to enjoy it. :) If the pr*cks want to make your life uncomfortable, turn the table back on them.

  • Tyner's comment brings out a parallel between this issue and school paddling. In both cases, government employees are performing an act that normally would be considered sexual assault or battery. Both are supposedly justified, one in the interest of "security" and the other in the interest of "discipline."

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  • The TSA would be well pleased if all Americans stopped flying.

  • @howtogetwell why do you have to turn it like that? Is this just an attempt to further destroy the economy?

  • HR6416 is The American Traveler Dignity Act of 2010

    and will stop these Constitutional and Citizen abuses.

    Write to your state reps and government committee members and tell them to cosponsor and support this. Let them know any politicians supporting these abuses will get voted out of office.

    Google links for their names..kept getting error message so had to remove links.

  • @NDELady WOULD IT NOT BE EASIER TO DENY YOUR CONSENT, YOU ARE PROPOSING ANOTHER CORPORATE ACT, WHICH HAS NOT POWER OR CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER ACT. ARE YOU NOT AWARE OF THIS FACT? DID YOU READ THE DOC, TSA TRUTHS, IT IS ALL IN THERE, TAKE CARE

  • Here's a little girl who stands up to the TSA.

    Search:

    Little girl stands up to TSA!

  • This reminds me of my high school physical when I was 12. I didn't expect it and a women nurse told me to undress and I was so shy I didn't want her too force me too get naked. They threatened too call my parents because I did not consent too it. The principle or someone else came and told me that I had too do it! So I let her do it and she did look in my underwear and stick her hand down my pants. i wish they wouldn't do things like that too us. I would have rather had a male doctor do it!

  • @wavepsychic learn why you have the natural right to deny your consent, we'll send you the pdf file, then you can help educate others. TSA has no authority over anyone so stop consenting.

    donotconsent83@yahoo.com

  • Good for John Tyner for having the courage of his convictions! Good for American Airlines for refunding his ticket fare. Shame on TSA for being Gestapo PIGS!

  • @MediVapeMan -- What kind of 'courage' does it take to do what Tyner did? All he did was behave like a NINE year old and hold up travel plans for everyone when he threw his temper tantrum, when he should have just agreed to the search and complained with a letter or law suit later like any rational person would do.

    If he didn't want to be searched, he should have left the airport and stayed in the non-secured area. He wasn't even flying for chrissakes!!

  • If he actually was a terrorist and had explosives on him ...he just got away...lol..so much for security. The terrorist can just do the same thing till one time they don't get spot checked. What a joke the terrorists have won.

  • They want to chill the backlash because they don't like people telling them they can't do something unconstitutional. They have to try and make an example to scare the people into compliance. We are their boss. When we lose our freedoms at the hands of the government, the government becomes the terrorists they claim they are protecting us from. The Terrorists TSA are afraid of being arrested because they are not immune from the law, that is why they are going after him. ABOLISH THE TSA NOW.

  • what is wrong with the American people, you do not have to abolish anything, TSA has no authority to issue fines etc. You can make it to your gate by simply saying"I am a Sovereign man/woman, I do not consent and I give you no Authority over me or my children and I/we deny the benefits, if you impead my/our natural right to travel or violate any of my/our rights, I'll sue you and your department head, personally and in your capacity, am I free to make my/our way to my/our Gate." You are FREE!!

  • @donotconsent83 you're dreaming sooooooo niceeeee

  • @coculean Actually you are. I can prove it with the US Code and you can sue the TSA agents and who ever if they try to stop you from going to your gate. TSA is a corporation with "0" authority, if you care to see the evidence write to donotconsent83@yahoo.com and I'll send you the pdf file. I've walked past them myself without being touched at all.

  • @donotconsent83 yeah, like I need yet another virus from your corrupted emails:)You forget we live in a place that no longer has any regards for human liberties, they've all been forfeit in the name of the fight against terror. They can, the TSA that is, call in the police or any other law enforcement and arrest your ass on the spot. Unless you're loaded with cash or your daddy is a US lawmaker or a media mogul, you're gonna either end up with a huge fine or your sorry ass dumped in the slammer

  • @donotconsent83 Now you Yanks know how powerless the average German was were they to stand up to the security aparatus of the Third Reich. I say, SUCK IT UP. Its your government. Love 'em because they've been doing your "good" for the past hundred years or so. Take the bad with the good. Your all still fat, loudmouthed, ill mannered, self centered and despised around the world.

  • @donotconsent83 Oh, because they are just all of the sudden respect you and your rights when you invoke such a statement. You can't sue them anymore unless they allow you to sue them. They're being taugh that people aren't soveriegn, and when the majority are brainwashed that individuals are not soveriegn, they will not recognize you being sovereign. If they simply don't recognize you, they will still detain you and do what they want. They do need to be abolished.

  • Another reason you will get a pat-down is if you opt out of being screened by Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT). This technology is optional, but if you do opt out, we must ensure you have the same level of screening that this technology provides, which includes looking for metallic and non-metallic items.

    This is from the TSA site, do you read Required anywhere, they are offering you a service and they call you a customer, you simply say "I do not consent to your Authority" and walk.

  • @donotconsent83 Their rules ammount to legislation against the people, and they don't have any authority granted to them to legislate. Only Congress has the authority to legislate, and congress doesn't have the authority to grant others powers to legislate.

  • STOPPING THE CONGRESS APPROVED

    TSA

    AND THE MOLESTING OF OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN

    what no TV or Radio will tell you is that you can say no!

    write to donotconsent83@yahoo.com for the PDF of the relevant US Code sections. please understand that you are a free and Sovereign Man or Woman

  • For the TSA to say that Tyner has "escaped" would mean that Tyner was being detained.

    If the TSA files suit claiming he "escaped from detainment", then Tyner should file a "unlawful detainment and sexual assault" lawsuit.

    It's logical process. If you're saying he escaped, that means you were detaining him and they had no lawful right to do so.

  • @TheHitchcockFamily TSA has no Authority to issue fines, it is a bluff for the News A Holes to spread as food for the sheep.

    STOPPING THE CONGRESS APPROVED

    TSA

    AND THE MOLESTING OF OUR WOMEN AND CHILDREN

    what no TV or Radio will tell you is that you can say no!

    write to donotconsent83@yahoo.com

  • John Tyner = Junk Tiny

  • @tt9xtt Please don't overlook the possibility that this dufus may very well have been wearing a cockring or other variant of 'junk-enhancement' for which he didn't want an expose, vis-a-vis scanning or enhanced pat down. He should've prepared himself properly before going to the airport. By then, it was too late and he had to act all, 'Patrick Henry' or 'little Miss Muffet'.

  • @tracer740 What a moronic thing to say about the cock ring.

  • @urbiznessnoneof - Moronic? My hypothesis was "moronic"?... and yet you don't see through this paranoid individual's rediculous opposition and rant? How selective your perception must be!

  • So you're saying you wouldn't like your hot young daughters touched by a tsa agent you just met? shame on all you people. you should at least be a little aroused by the prospect. enjoy your day people.

  • @203207ab understand that TSA has not Authirty over them the abuses will continue. Join us so you can understand why you can say "I am a Sovereign man/woman, I do not consent and I give you no Authority, if you impead my natural right to travel or violate any of my rights, I'll sue you and your department head, personally and in your capacity " , fight the good fight, never surrender, donotconsent83@yahoo.com

  • John ''Little Penis'' Tyner :) or John ''Dickless'' Tyner?

  • @MadMark2006 or is it mad "cunt " mark?

  • US Code TITLE 5 § 103. Government corporation For the purpose of this title— (1) ‘‘Government corporation’’ means a corporation owned or controlled by the Government of the United States U.S. Code TITLE 28—JUDICIARY AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE § 3002. Definitions 15) ‘‘United States’’ means— (A) a Federal corporation;
  • TSA = Terrorists of Sexual Assault

  • @paulvglendale what else are you doing about stopping it?

  • @donotconsent83 If enough people refuse to use the scanners on Nov 24, with the no. of people flying that day it's going to be a massive headache for not only TSA but evertone involved in the aviation history.

  • @mucprinrb Very true,but this needs to be a long term commitment and if the people do not understand that TSA has not Authirty over them the abuses will continue. Join us so you can understand why you can say "I am a Sovereign man/woman, I do not consent and I give you no Authority, if you impead my natural right to travel or violate any of my rights, I'll sue you and your department head, personally and in your capacity " , fight the good fight, never surrender, donotconsent83@yahoo.com

  • Hell no! Don't Touch my Junk!

  • He had every intention to cause an uproar. He turned his camera phone on before he started going through. He is another media whore wanting attention for his 15 minutes of fame.

  • @Newtpw So what if he did, more folks are getting educated about the true nature of the corrupt corportation "The United States"

    "I am a sovereign man/woman, known as ------, I do not consent to your Authority, if you impead my right to travel or violate any of my rights I will sue you and your department head personally and in your capacity, am I free to go to my Gate"

    I do would not allow TSA molestors to touch my kids and no one else should!!

  • I would gladly let some blond women touch my junk, but if a man tries it, i'm gonna teabag him.

  • Hey: if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear. Does anyone out there still think this shit is still valid? Morons, anyone?

  • @bigkitten How about my junk and my kids privates, go get a real job you Tax-fed-maggot, the cat is out of the bag!!

  • @donotconsent83 I was being sarcastic, you daft sod. American?

  • @bigkitten Are you being sarcastic again?

  • @donotconsent83 Yes. Sorry.

  • TSA has no Authority over anyone outside of DC please join the I DO NOT CONSENT MOVEMENT!! "I am known as -------, I am a sovereign Man/Woman and I do not consent to your Authority, if you impead my right to Travel or violate any of my rights I'll sue you and your Department Head personally and in your Capacity" Please read the US Code, they have no Authority unless you consent. Join the "I do not consent movement". donotconsent83@yahoo.com YOU REALLY ARE FREE, YES FREE!!!!

  • Is the Govt. supporting or promoting something which they teach not to do in school??

  • American citizens are getting threatened and terrorised by their own govt.???

  • @GRGO007 What? You think?!

  • Please stay off my plane, John Tyner.

    This guy is clearly unbalanced in the brain.

    Yikes.

  • @ericyingling What are you smoking? He has every right not to be submitted to screening that he is not comfortable with. They refused to let him leave and are threatening him with what is essentially a lawsuit. I fail to see how he is "unbalanced in the brain."

  • @Shadow91x Never smoked in my life. I went on John Tyner's blog where he's posted three videos with all of the audio. About 25 minutes total. I assume you have heard all of these. This is insolence and belligerence under the guise of "protecting our personal liberties". I am sad more people don't get it. A security agent putting their hands adjacent to your crotch is not "a sexual act", as he stated repeatedly in his videos. Because of what he defines as a sexual act, I find him imbalanced.

  • @ericyingling He isn't calling it a sexual act, he is stating that if someone other than a Government Agent did that, they could be tried for sexual assault, and he states that he isn't comfortable with someone's hand going near his crotch. He has every right to deny them this unnecessary and invasive search (the fourth amendment). And I have watched the tapes, and he was basically detained forr no reason. His side of the story is basically factual (but not completely).

  • @ericyingling You are absolutely right....obey....why can't more people SEE that?? I regularly make my arse available to local government (and let me tell you: it's fucking sexy as hell!!!) It's beyond sexy. Control: .....put me first in the line! Fuck me, Bitches....fuck me!!! Why would anyone object to this? Fucking pussies! Ten years ago, this woul'd be put down as perversion....now....oh christ, I love you, Shadow91x...Jesus, I've just come! 91x..91x..91x....oh crap!

  • The Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that:

    “ The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and Warrants shall not be issued, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ”

    So take that TSA

  • “They (The Government) would do anything to silence those who expose the truth of the lies of government.”

    Quote created by me Ryan Greene

  • To all body scan supporters, did you know that a bomb hidden in a toner cartridge was found flying in cargo and the investigators stated that the only reason they found it was due to an anonymous tip otherwise it might have blown up the plane? USE YOUR BRAIN. If a terrorist wanted to bring down a plane they can just SHIP THE BOMB in cargo. Body cavity searches on passengers will not stop that.

  • I hope you people realize that John Tyner is an anti-govermnet psychopath with a rambling blog.

    Simply put, I feel much safer on an aircraft if nutcases like Mr. Tyner don't fly

  • @GodBlessTonyDanza Wow, you copy and pasted the same reply. Are you a TSA/government plant/CIA operative or just a douche bag?? Please something intelligent. I doubt you will.

  • @bdmenne

    If I am an attention seeking douchebag, does that mean I'm no different than John Tyner?

    All apologies for me still having some sanity in a world that has very little these days.

  • @GodBlessTonyDanza Anti what? govermnet? What's that?

    You are the nutcase.

  • John Tyner is well spoken and a hero!!

  • Look--when you see old vids of the McCarthy era 'commie paranoia' it all looks FUKIN CRAZY AS FUCK--check it out. it is funny its so mad.

    THIS shit is same but worse if thats possible.

    You are in it. Dont put UP with this shit people--it is irrational psychopathic bullshit. believe me.

  • Hahah.... Reminds me of Beavis and Butthead do America.... "Cavity searches all around..."

  • During the Bush years, the liberals, leftists, and Democrats et. al squealed like stuck pigs over 'wiretaps'. They screamed bloody murder about civil liberties, unconstitionality and so on and so forth. Where are they, now during the Obama years, when the TSA is groping nuns, strip searching 3-year old girls, and bearing false witness against american citizens? It's amazing what liberals will do when they think they're running the show, and scream against when they're not.

  • @Slyrr7 :  I don't expect you to understand the obvious difference between a SECRET WIRE TAPE and a simple pat down or scan to prevent your plane from ending in a 500MPH fire ball. I don't expect a dumb ass like yourself to understand the difference. And you didn't. Thanks. I bet you want Palin to run in 2012 too?! Right dumb ass?!

  • If these machines stay, TSA will be sued by cancer victims 20- 30 years from now ( like all of those attorneys advertising for mesothelioma suits)

    We don't need any TSA agents checking out people's private parts. What's next, random body cavity searches? Perhaps TSA agents should receive the same training as prison guards.

  • @nightfrog65 : Why don't you try to educate yourself. Oh no... I understand that being spoon fed rhetoric and staying retarded is easier. The scan will = 2 MINUTES OF FLIGHT TIME. So if you are THAT worried of the radiation. DON'T GET ON THE FLIGHT RETARD!

  • @aagraber45

    A real retard will allow the government to take away their liberties without saying a word about it. I don't want some perverted TSA agent looking a photo of my privates and/or groping my family and I in the name of "national security"

    I still think that lawsuits will result from these machines, whether it's justified or not. Look at all the ambulance chaser lawyers advertising to represent mesolthelioma cases today.

  • Aagraber45. Wow bud I hope you feel better at night....thank god I can stop you from ever sending me another nasty email...and ps.....clearly you are the pick!!

  • @carsonsflyinghigh : Nice argument dumb ass.

  • @carsonsflyinghigh : Clearly I am the pick? What kind of pick?

  • John Tyner sounds like a dumbass tea party member.

  • "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

    - Ben Franklin

  • @speedracersworld : "If passion drives you, let reason hold the reins." ALSO Ben Franklin. A simple scan or pat down to keep your flight from ending in a 500 MPH fire ball is REASONABLE!

  • @speedracersworld and Benjimin Franklin was correct. You know I honestly think he could forsee what was going to happen in America's future, if not a prophet of what was to come he sure was wise beyond his years.

  • Osama Bin Laden's goal was to put the US in the position where its freedoms would be eroded. Thank you Bush and Cheney! You fell into his trap. His other goal was to force the US to spend one trillion dollars and go broke. THANK YOU, Bush and Cheney. Mission accomplished! You fools (tools).

  • I just don't see a "backlash." I think it's great making American flights safer than ever. It is apparent that Alex wants to see another mass killing so he can get more "air" time. Then Alex would condemn the government for not doing enough. Maybe it's because HE doesn't have any "stuff."

  • @Pkr Your ignorance is truly tragic. History will judge your ignorance harshly. As it should. Its is ignorant people like you, that have allowed the fascist police state to come into being.

    Do you have any idea of the pure hell you are inviting on yourself and your children?

  • @putittogether : Oh sure..... because getting a pat down or scan to keep your plane from a 500 MPH nose dive is SO fascist! Overreact much?

  • The TSA guy could have just said - "you are going to have me arrested?" and laughed like hell, and then continue with his job.

  • Drama queen.

  • "It's CERTAINLY not what I intended"

    SUUURRRRRREEE IT WASN'T! Fucking little DRAMA QUEEN!

  • This is an absolute OUTRAGE! Who do these TSA pukes think they are!!! It is my God given right as an American to die in a 500 MPH fire ball if I so choose! The founding fathers of this great nation did not want American citizens subjected to simple scans or pat down for their safety!

    "A man who chooses to not be touched in the junk, may choose to die in a fire ball, but it will be a "freedom fireball" for all to see!" Ben Franklin