you can learn everything for free at home that you pay for at college... but are you really going to put in the work alone without the responsibility of the work you do in college? a diploma doesn't mean your neccesarily smarter, it means you started something and you finished it... im tired of seeing people knock education, i've had amazing teachers for example... PTA even said he was rationalizing, i don't think you need college to be brilliant, but it isn't a bad thing
If you grow up in near Hollywood, have a father who's working in the industry and your family has connections and money then you do NOT need a film school. Unfortunately we're not all as lucky as Paul Thomas Anderson and he should know that, usually he's a smart guy.
Pretty much any type of art-related educational program will have students and teachers with inflated egos, justified or not.
And Re: him "not ever going to make a T2-type film" - That's not the point he is trying to make. He appreciated T2 but didn't necessarily want to make the next T2. The issue was that a professor was basically shooting down dreams from the first day and proceeded to try to crap on his dream while collecting money for it. He was like, "no thanks." Bold guy!
"terminator 2's a pretty awesome movie" lol I fukn love PTA. He's a real dude who doesn't have his head up his ass. On top of that one of the greatest filmmaker's ever. Can't wait for the master!
Steven Spielberg was rejected from the University of Southern California's film school 3 times. He did exactly what PTA did and made a short film. Look at him now.
Film School should function as an educational experience that teaches you how to use the equipment, business issues, and allows for networking. Critical analysis and film theory is great but it should be left to another area of study. When you start telling creative young people the 'way to do things' your helping kill whatever originality they would have brought to the art form.
@Healthypig1423 This is exactly how it should be. I'm in film school right now and this is what my learning experience has been like. I guess I'm lucky. I never knew until today there were schools that teach like PTA describes.
No it's not. In general, about 95% of the time, the people who get the best grades are more intelligent than the people who don't. Even if getting good grades is a result of a lot of hard work, the ability to do hard work is part of intelligence.
Obviously, there are loads of exceptions to that, like PTA.
Not true at all. I have no idea where you came up with a statistic like that either. I guess it depends on what you really consider intelligence than. If you're talking about the ability to think differently than you're completely wrong that those people get better grades in high school than conventional thinkers. If you're talking about comprehending trivial bullshit that is completely fucking mindless than yeah I'd say your statistic is about accurate.
I learnt a hell of a lot of useful information at school. I might not use it in later life but I'm glad I learnt it. There's a reason why people value education so highly. Parents pay their kids to go to private schools, loads of people work their ass off to get into a decent university. Good education leads to a better understanding of life and that is always relevant for anything creative. If you look up most successful writers, they have usually been to a fantastic university.
Again that depends what you call education. You can learn a lot more reading books, listening to music, conversing with people, and watching films than you ever will sitting in an out dated classroom setting of listening to a teacher talk. In fact private schools have less qualified teachers but ask for more money just so they can keep the school running without government funding. I should know cause I go to one.
Was just looking at your profile. You have good taste. It's nice to find somebody who rates Gomorra as highly as I do and I also think City of God is the best film of the decade. The only film I disagreed with on either list was Easy Rider, which wasn't really my cup of tea.
Thanks man, means a lot. And I'm a huge fan of László Kovács and I always thought that was his best work. What a soundtrack that movie had, plus all the drugs they did in the film were real too haha. Gomorra was great, I mean I thought bringing in a character in a truly real life crime film mimicking "Scarface" was fucking genius. You should check out Irreversible dude. You'll like it. If you're into french cinema more especially.
i agree, i took a few film courses at my school and they do show you the techinical stuff but creativity is nowhere to be found. But then again the film courses I took did a poor job on showing the techincal stuff of making a movie.
Yh i got to film school in the UK, we don't have the same restricions on pages that we reveal antagonists at, that's crazy!
But there is definitely the same thing with these snobbish, bitter lecturers that almost try to force their tastes onto you and turn you into a filmaker that makes films they want to see. Instead of really delving into who you are, and what kind of films you want to make.
I think film schools try to tell you what is "good" and "not good", because they have to grade you in some way, but speaking as a film student, their "rules" piss me off. I had a similar "T2" experience. On the first day of film theory, we went around and said our favorite and most hated film. I said T2 for my favorite and everyone in class snickered. And now in Screenwriting, they say "have your antagonist revealed by page 20, and have Act 2 start on page 50.." It's absolute bullshit.
Film school is great for learning technical info and getting hands-on experience, but it really is where creativity goes to die. You're given brutally confining rules for each assignment. It's like you can't make a short that's "too good" or "show offy." It's why when it comes time to present the projects, they're mostly exercises in tedium. It's because the projects are assignments and not movies.
You can get a good grade in film class, but what will you really have to SHOW for it?
Well said. This is my first sem. The video I uploaded was my first assignment. The objective was to enter from left and exit from right. 90% of my classmates did just walked from the left and entered right literally. I tried something different and got 50% marks deducted. Because I did not have a LS, did slow motion (which they did not teach yet), and exported into HD resolution (they only showed to export SD). Now I just want to PASS the course.
though film school generally does a great job of teaching you and getting you comfortable with the equipment involved in the medium, from my experience, they're not huge on creativity. pta's movies have all come from inside (except there will be blood).
i don't think he try to say that T2 is bad... i think that what he tried to say is that T2 is cool and that kind of teachers are assholes because they can't see anything else but "serious films".. T2 rocks and PTA also rocks
The problem with film schools is that they put more emphasis on the technical side of filmmaking than the artistic side. You're graded more on continuity than the story you're telling, and they want their students to go off to LA and get into the film industry by working their way up the bankrupt Hollywood system. Fuck that.
I disagree. Like PTA illustrated with the T2 example, there´s a lot of snobbishness in film schools where loser film makers that couldn´t make a career out of actually making films, brainwash their students into believing that the only good cinema was made in some obscure studio in France 50 years ago. It would be better if they were to focus only on technical knowledge and let the student decide for itself what´s good cinema. PTA, Tarantino, Spielberg, Coen Brothers, C. Nolan=No film school.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of that kind of snobbery at all, but I don't think simply teaching the technicalities of filmmaking is enough. A really great professor will guide his/her students towards making the kinds of films they want to make whether they're action movies or arthouse movies. In my opinion, the ideal situation is one that nurtures students to express themselves as best they can so they can go out into the world and make art, and most film schools fall short there.
What I feel schools should be doing is educating the students on all kinds of films and all kinds of genres and styles. I enjoy everything from Kubrick, Scorsese, PTA, Fellini etc etc etc. and then I can also enjoy Dario Argento, Mario Bava, Wong Kar-wai, Ruggero Deodato, Takeshi Kitano, Jack Hill, Umberto Lenzi etc etc.
I hate snobby people especially film kids and teachers. Film is art there isn't boundaries. Same goes with screenwriting. Who the hell can tell me how I need to write a script
@Tarantino101 No one can tell you how to write a script, but there is a proper way to write a script. What you do with that is your choice, but if your script isn't correct in terms of structure, it will suck.
@Tarantino101 What a coincidence that you like the films of Mario Bava, Kitano, Umberto Lenzi etc. They are all films Tarantino happens to love too! It's only a coincidence I'm sure.
@Tarantino101 There are a handful of great, preternaturally talented filmmakers, but the vast majority of people who aspire to be filmmakers need to go to film school. I can tell you right now that most of the people I go to school with are not snobby. In fact, it became clear pretty early in my first year that if you wanted to succeed, you were going to have to humble yourself and be willing to learn.
@LMNY1 But the point is, there is no rules in filmmaking. So why do you want someone to tell you how to do things, and pay them a lot of money, when you can do them your own way, for free. Either you know how to do it, or you dont. You can shoot a scene from 1000 angels, but the point is you have to choose what YOU want, not some teacher who has spent all his life failing in the filmbusiness and ended up as a teacher. You have to go out and do things your way, and thats the only way.
@Tarantino101 I am in film school, and we have seen films from all of the filmmakers you listed. This is where i found out i really didn't like Wong Kar-wai
also screenwriting is like any other art...you need to learn the rules in order to break them...all great scrips, on a basic level have the basics of a screenplay...
I love Paul Thomas Anderson. One of the great young living filmmakers of today. I go to film school and I am doing it just so I can get meet people and get networking skills and have access to nice equipment. That is the only reason but PTA is right about a lot of things on how these schools run. Who in the hell has the right to tell you what kind of stuff is good and not good and if you make that don't bother just get out.
I wanna make films as well, but I'm gonna stay in school and finish my A-levels, cos I figure I'm halfway through, my grades are good. I'm constantly working on scripts and short films. Even if it doesn't work out at least I'll have been spending time practicing something I love right? Keep at it!
You are bying yourself time... You realize that if you drop out, you actually have to make movies or find another job. Your afraid... Just wait till you have to graduate... My advice.... Go for a masters then a phd.
u make those things sound bad. thats how i lived my life before film school and i was extremely happy. i had a normal job at a doctors office. and i actually made movies...and how am i afraid? im only afraid that all my money is going to go to waste. ive been the top of my class for 6 months now. i have 6 left... this schools given me virtally nothing. ive gone through this so many times, and i mean no offense by not wanting to go over it again for a stranger. thanks for the concern tho, honest.
That's exactly what I mean... I suppose I should thank you, I here stories like your's and it reminds me why I don't want to go to film school... I wish the best of luck.
PS my um, sarcastic nature doesn't come through so well on Youtube comments... Terrible character flaw, I know.
I gotta say that he may be onto something with the whole "fear" thing. I think PTA said it himself, if there is one thing that he could do differently, he would have had no fear. Fear is really the only thing holding any of us back. Really, there is no reason for you to not be hitting the festivals with your own flick right now. If that's what you want to do, then do it. Run head first into it. It feels good.
The only thing that film school can still give you is experience, the rest is just fluff. But you can gain experience a lot quicker by just going out and doing. Pasternack seems like a great teacher, you could probably learn a lot about working with actors from him, but aside from DIRECTING professional ACTORS there isn't much the school can teach you, you already know all that shit. But as I said before, you can get that experience a lot faster by simply doing.
Good luck getting an internship, then; a lot (most) studios won't take non-students in for insurance reasons. Not that it is the only way to get in, but at the same time it is a major door you are closing.
What do you have to lose, other than the money you are investing into your future, if you stay in? In the meantime you are networking, learning from professionals with experience in the industry, and being exposed to films you would never see on your own.
Well, you can do what PTA did and spend all your tuition money on making an actual film by yourself for dirt cheap. Your first film is to prove to these studios that you're competent, and that you can produce a movie for nothing. When you make it for nothing, you don't have to make anything back, so they don't care. You also learn a lot by going balls out into unchartered territory, and from doing it yourself.
It looks like some of the stuff he's saying about film school is poison to Elvis Mitchell's ears, as I'm sure he believes in being well educated first. This story, however, confirms my suspicion that a lot of these professors care more about the name attached to the movie than they do about the movie. If you told them Frank Capra had directed Terminator 2 they would see it in a completely different light. I think they're just bitter that they couldn't make it big in hollywood to be honest.
He's exactly right! My film teachers criticise the hell out of movies, my boxing coaches criticise fighters, it goes on and on, but what have they done? You can't teach talent, or artistic vision, whatever, you just can't. You can argue and say well look at this movie but that's a type of movie isn't it? styles make...movies?
Mine too! :P I was instantly pissed when I entered my Visual Design class and was asked what my fave film was, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind...ya know...putting me on the spot. And the minute I said anything...he tore it down. WTF? It was my opinion and it's style is what made it a great movie and Gondry a fantastic filmmaker in my opinion.
It's always like that! I said something about some movie that was out at the time and my teacher pretty muched bitched me out -THE WHOLE DAY! And then he went on and complained about transformers. Hadn't he just contradicted himself? He's also one of the people who worship the cohen brothers. I think the process of "film school" in general is hillarious. Students especially, not just the teachers. I like Tarsem probably like you like Gondry.
Ya know the egos are hilarious in film school. Especially from some of the know it all professors who tear anyone successful down! I just don't see how that is vital in teaching us anything. You're completely right about the constant criticism. I think it derives from a lot of professional jealousy. So...in observing some of them...I'm aspiring to not be like that. I don't want to let the industry change who I am or how I feel. I just want to make interesting movies. That's all.
I just like the teachers telling you what to do but if you sit back and think about it, look how far they made it? Joe Fraiser said to box the way it works for you. If you try to box like some strict way, you'll probably look off. That translates well with film, especially with artistic expression/ how elementary tears down beginning artists. Random? But "in all" I think(know) there is a little you can take from the whole overview of the bee-otch teacher-ism. No spelling errors, i meant it.
pta and tarantino shouldn't even be considered in the same category. PTA is a thousand times more talented than him. He hasn't made anything good since City on Fire.
I suppose PULP FICTION!! is nothing to take note of or the Two Kill Bill's (Jackie Brown or Death proof are not as good in my opinion especially D.P but i can appreciate what he was trying to achieve, plus the high standard of his earlier pictures will always be a difficult benchmark to maintain). And for the record I think P.T.A is a fantastic film maker also & both are best buds who would have a good laugh at pretentious know-it-alls like ye two drawing half assed comparisons.
This is for BatemanDaPsycho. I suppose you think you're real smart making reference to "City on Fire" when talking about "Dogs" & ReidWConnell to let us all know that "I see what you did there". is so fucking lame. To boldly state that QT hasnt made "anything good" since then is just plain ridiculous.
I had huge hopes for Tarantino, but he hasn't made any good movies in more than ten years. Paul Thomas Anderson on the other hand makes REAL movies, and they are all very very good and original american films.
but you never have and never will write terminator 2 and you do write serious movies so your argument sucks, but you just sort of happen to be great anyway so you didn't really need it in the first place. i'm talking like i know him, but that's what i would say if i did.
Boogie Nights and Punch Drunk Love are a little less serious than Magnolia and There Will be Blood (which I haven't seen yet). But even Magnolia is loaded with comedic, or at least less than serious elements.
he body language reminds me of QT. Anyway looking at that blonde girl made me realised she was probably trying to get in to the film biz! she can never be PTA
I swear to god man, PT is the next Kubrick. No question. I know thats a heavy statement, but this guy makes films so uniquely that you can easily compare his craft to Kubrick's.
i am waiting impatiently for the master
ahistoryofwater 6 days ago
you can learn everything for free at home that you pay for at college... but are you really going to put in the work alone without the responsibility of the work you do in college? a diploma doesn't mean your neccesarily smarter, it means you started something and you finished it... im tired of seeing people knock education, i've had amazing teachers for example... PTA even said he was rationalizing, i don't think you need college to be brilliant, but it isn't a bad thing
SpringSauce23 4 weeks ago
doesn't look like we'll see The Master for 2012...
JC387588 2 months ago
If you grow up in near Hollywood, have a father who's working in the industry and your family has connections and money then you do NOT need a film school. Unfortunately we're not all as lucky as Paul Thomas Anderson and he should know that, usually he's a smart guy.
EinerVonDenen 2 months ago
ironically they study p.t.a. now in film schools
K3vinReynolds 2 months ago
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oOleonard 2 months ago
does the full interview exist anywhere?
C4rlFletcher 3 months ago
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andrejvgo 3 months ago
pta is the man
mitchqqqqqq 5 months ago
2:32 Paul's parents?
mizkex 5 months ago
@mizkex Paul´s dad passed away a LOOONG time ago and he doesnt get along with his mom.
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andrejvgo 3 months ago
Pretty much any type of art-related educational program will have students and teachers with inflated egos, justified or not.
And Re: him "not ever going to make a T2-type film" - That's not the point he is trying to make. He appreciated T2 but didn't necessarily want to make the next T2. The issue was that a professor was basically shooting down dreams from the first day and proceeded to try to crap on his dream while collecting money for it. He was like, "no thanks." Bold guy!
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PTA...thinks outside the box...that is what I love about him. huge fan. Some people just dont get it; and never will.
thatisMRS2u 6 months ago
"terminator 2's a pretty awesome movie" lol I fukn love PTA. He's a real dude who doesn't have his head up his ass. On top of that one of the greatest filmmaker's ever. Can't wait for the master!
theomen84 8 months ago 8
I'm a film student and I think Terminator 2 is a fantastic film, but yeah there is a feeling of snobbery by film teachers and some students.
Pretty sad, but at least I know I will never be like them.
greenclock 8 months ago
what year was this shot
ned262626 10 months ago
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"Now i know i`m right"
FredrikLNielsen 10 months ago
Steven Spielberg was rejected from the University of Southern California's film school 3 times. He did exactly what PTA did and made a short film. Look at him now.
MrJustMartin 11 months ago
Probably most talented 90's director, behind Tarantino.
shnoepie1 1 year ago
im taking a film class
worst fucking decision ive made in a long time
insubordinatebastard 1 year ago
@insubordinatebastard really why?
martinezmarcio1 1 year ago
Film School should function as an educational experience that teaches you how to use the equipment, business issues, and allows for networking. Critical analysis and film theory is great but it should be left to another area of study. When you start telling creative young people the 'way to do things' your helping kill whatever originality they would have brought to the art form.
Healthypig1423 1 year ago 7
@Healthypig1423 This is exactly how it should be. I'm in film school right now and this is what my learning experience has been like. I guess I'm lucky. I never knew until today there were schools that teach like PTA describes.
luckynumbr13 1 year ago
God bless him. PTA is so full of spirit.
SpearedPage 1 year ago
Wow his body language is almost identical to Tarantino's.
OrginalKork 1 year ago 3
lol
2505994 1 year ago
I love his hand movements
ThisIsRaynor 1 year ago
who's that girl in the audience @ :30
bakanbi 1 year ago
Haha, Elvis Mitchell always has that same dumb-dumb look on his face lol.
fullclip16117 1 year ago
terminator 2 was an awesome movie. well noted paul.
stratocaster1986able 1 year ago 4
I think it's impossible to watch an interview with PTA without hearing the words "wonderful" or "great."
chimpiki 1 year ago
Can't believe he got bad grades at school. Seems like such a smart guy.
lollerz16 2 years ago
School grades provide no in sight on anyone's intelligence. It's mostly propaganda and bullshit anyway.
McNugget06 1 year ago 21
No it's not. In general, about 95% of the time, the people who get the best grades are more intelligent than the people who don't. Even if getting good grades is a result of a lot of hard work, the ability to do hard work is part of intelligence.
Obviously, there are loads of exceptions to that, like PTA.
lollerz16 1 year ago
Not true at all. I have no idea where you came up with a statistic like that either. I guess it depends on what you really consider intelligence than. If you're talking about the ability to think differently than you're completely wrong that those people get better grades in high school than conventional thinkers. If you're talking about comprehending trivial bullshit that is completely fucking mindless than yeah I'd say your statistic is about accurate.
McNugget06 1 year ago
I learnt a hell of a lot of useful information at school. I might not use it in later life but I'm glad I learnt it. There's a reason why people value education so highly. Parents pay their kids to go to private schools, loads of people work their ass off to get into a decent university. Good education leads to a better understanding of life and that is always relevant for anything creative. If you look up most successful writers, they have usually been to a fantastic university.
lollerz16 1 year ago
Again that depends what you call education. You can learn a lot more reading books, listening to music, conversing with people, and watching films than you ever will sitting in an out dated classroom setting of listening to a teacher talk. In fact private schools have less qualified teachers but ask for more money just so they can keep the school running without government funding. I should know cause I go to one.
McNugget06 1 year ago
Was just looking at your profile. You have good taste. It's nice to find somebody who rates Gomorra as highly as I do and I also think City of God is the best film of the decade. The only film I disagreed with on either list was Easy Rider, which wasn't really my cup of tea.
lollerz16 1 year ago
Thanks man, means a lot. And I'm a huge fan of László Kovács and I always thought that was his best work. What a soundtrack that movie had, plus all the drugs they did in the film were real too haha. Gomorra was great, I mean I thought bringing in a character in a truly real life crime film mimicking "Scarface" was fucking genius. You should check out Irreversible dude. You'll like it. If you're into french cinema more especially.
McNugget06 1 year ago
@lollerz16 Faulkner, wrote one of his most noted works in a mine.
godsaway0 1 year ago
@lollerz16 agreed
MostDiscusseding 1 year ago
i agree, i took a few film courses at my school and they do show you the techinical stuff but creativity is nowhere to be found. But then again the film courses I took did a poor job on showing the techincal stuff of making a movie.
QuietGiantProduction 2 years ago
Yh i got to film school in the UK, we don't have the same restricions on pages that we reveal antagonists at, that's crazy!
But there is definitely the same thing with these snobbish, bitter lecturers that almost try to force their tastes onto you and turn you into a filmaker that makes films they want to see. Instead of really delving into who you are, and what kind of films you want to make.
ronaldinho91 2 years ago
I think film schools try to tell you what is "good" and "not good", because they have to grade you in some way, but speaking as a film student, their "rules" piss me off. I had a similar "T2" experience. On the first day of film theory, we went around and said our favorite and most hated film. I said T2 for my favorite and everyone in class snickered. And now in Screenwriting, they say "have your antagonist revealed by page 20, and have Act 2 start on page 50.." It's absolute bullshit.
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SheridanODonnell 2 years ago
Well you do know what they say...
"Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach."
The4thGuy 2 years ago
Film school is great for learning technical info and getting hands-on experience, but it really is where creativity goes to die. You're given brutally confining rules for each assignment. It's like you can't make a short that's "too good" or "show offy." It's why when it comes time to present the projects, they're mostly exercises in tedium. It's because the projects are assignments and not movies.
You can get a good grade in film class, but what will you really have to SHOW for it?
Steveaux 2 years ago 2
Well said. This is my first sem. The video I uploaded was my first assignment. The objective was to enter from left and exit from right. 90% of my classmates did just walked from the left and entered right literally. I tried something different and got 50% marks deducted. Because I did not have a LS, did slow motion (which they did not teach yet), and exported into HD resolution (they only showed to export SD). Now I just want to PASS the course.
MikeAtHumber 2 years ago
pta's got a point.
though film school generally does a great job of teaching you and getting you comfortable with the equipment involved in the medium, from my experience, they're not huge on creativity. pta's movies have all come from inside (except there will be blood).
FrankBooth99 2 years ago
Well, even TWBB is almost all PTA. He is what made it amazing, not necessarily the source material.
droogdude 2 years ago
That Terminator 2 comment really pissed me off!!
T2 is one of the greatest movies of all tiem by one of the greatest filmmakers of all time...
mrkottinmouth 2 years ago
i don't think he try to say that T2 is bad... i think that what he tried to say is that T2 is cool and that kind of teachers are assholes because they can't see anything else but "serious films".. T2 rocks and PTA also rocks
gonzalonnevelezano 2 years ago 3
The problem with film schools is that they put more emphasis on the technical side of filmmaking than the artistic side. You're graded more on continuity than the story you're telling, and they want their students to go off to LA and get into the film industry by working their way up the bankrupt Hollywood system. Fuck that.
TulseLuper 2 years ago 5
Couldn't have said it better myself.
iamlove6767 2 years ago
I disagree. Like PTA illustrated with the T2 example, there´s a lot of snobbishness in film schools where loser film makers that couldn´t make a career out of actually making films, brainwash their students into believing that the only good cinema was made in some obscure studio in France 50 years ago. It would be better if they were to focus only on technical knowledge and let the student decide for itself what´s good cinema. PTA, Tarantino, Spielberg, Coen Brothers, C. Nolan=No film school.
badseed136 2 years ago 6
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of that kind of snobbery at all, but I don't think simply teaching the technicalities of filmmaking is enough. A really great professor will guide his/her students towards making the kinds of films they want to make whether they're action movies or arthouse movies. In my opinion, the ideal situation is one that nurtures students to express themselves as best they can so they can go out into the world and make art, and most film schools fall short there.
TulseLuper 2 years ago
Hell yeah; take the college money and use it to make a short film instead.
Neonman78 2 years ago 3
I hate film profs like that
sclements75 2 years ago 5
What I feel schools should be doing is educating the students on all kinds of films and all kinds of genres and styles. I enjoy everything from Kubrick, Scorsese, PTA, Fellini etc etc etc. and then I can also enjoy Dario Argento, Mario Bava, Wong Kar-wai, Ruggero Deodato, Takeshi Kitano, Jack Hill, Umberto Lenzi etc etc.
I hate snobby people especially film kids and teachers. Film is art there isn't boundaries. Same goes with screenwriting. Who the hell can tell me how I need to write a script
Tarantino101 2 years ago 39
I absolutely agree.
khanflesh 2 years ago 3
Agreed on that totally 100%... well said!
stevenb19871 2 years ago
@Tarantino101 No one can tell you how to write a script, but there is a proper way to write a script. What you do with that is your choice, but if your script isn't correct in terms of structure, it will suck.
smallcretzuli 1 year ago
@Tarantino101 What a coincidence that you like the films of Mario Bava, Kitano, Umberto Lenzi etc. They are all films Tarantino happens to love too! It's only a coincidence I'm sure.
insertintube 1 year ago 10
@Tarantino101 There are a handful of great, preternaturally talented filmmakers, but the vast majority of people who aspire to be filmmakers need to go to film school. I can tell you right now that most of the people I go to school with are not snobby. In fact, it became clear pretty early in my first year that if you wanted to succeed, you were going to have to humble yourself and be willing to learn.
LMNY1 1 year ago
@LMNY1 But the point is, there is no rules in filmmaking. So why do you want someone to tell you how to do things, and pay them a lot of money, when you can do them your own way, for free. Either you know how to do it, or you dont. You can shoot a scene from 1000 angels, but the point is you have to choose what YOU want, not some teacher who has spent all his life failing in the filmbusiness and ended up as a teacher. You have to go out and do things your way, and thats the only way.
FredrikLNielsen 8 months ago
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@Tarantino101 Nail has been hit on it's head.
McNugget06 10 months ago
@Tarantino101 some of the experts might be able to tell you whether your script will get immediately rejected or not and believe me, that helps.
WARBHOG 6 months ago
@Tarantino101 I am in film school, and we have seen films from all of the filmmakers you listed. This is where i found out i really didn't like Wong Kar-wai
also screenwriting is like any other art...you need to learn the rules in order to break them...all great scrips, on a basic level have the basics of a screenplay...
nickdrummer2004 5 months ago
I love Paul Thomas Anderson. One of the great young living filmmakers of today. I go to film school and I am doing it just so I can get meet people and get networking skills and have access to nice equipment. That is the only reason but PTA is right about a lot of things on how these schools run. Who in the hell has the right to tell you what kind of stuff is good and not good and if you make that don't bother just get out.
Tarantino101 2 years ago 2
I love this man
seanist 2 years ago 2
Ive just been rejected from film school..... lets see what happens
sexybehnam 3 years ago 45
@sexybehnam what happened?
dawgydoggy5 1 year ago
@sexybehnam If you work hard you won't fail
I wanna make films as well, but I'm gonna stay in school and finish my A-levels, cos I figure I'm halfway through, my grades are good. I'm constantly working on scripts and short films. Even if it doesn't work out at least I'll have been spending time practicing something I love right? Keep at it!
finbomartini 1 year ago
@sexybehnam What happened?
ArchiPepper 8 months ago
@sexybehnam good luck flipping hamburgers at mcdonalds
elitestar 4 months ago
@elitestar
Likewise, bro.
movieboyandco 4 months ago
I watch this over and over again, and each time I do, I get closer and closer to dropping out of film school myself.
DrewMKordik 3 years ago
DO it. Drop out and use the rest of your money and start making movies.
Broheiz 3 years ago
me and you both brother, im actually IN class right now... just wanna leave... what keeps me here...
XoSs 3 years ago
You are bying yourself time... You realize that if you drop out, you actually have to make movies or find another job. Your afraid... Just wait till you have to graduate... My advice.... Go for a masters then a phd.
SavageHenry78 3 years ago
u make those things sound bad. thats how i lived my life before film school and i was extremely happy. i had a normal job at a doctors office. and i actually made movies...and how am i afraid? im only afraid that all my money is going to go to waste. ive been the top of my class for 6 months now. i have 6 left... this schools given me virtally nothing. ive gone through this so many times, and i mean no offense by not wanting to go over it again for a stranger. thanks for the concern tho, honest.
XoSs 3 years ago
That's exactly what I mean... I suppose I should thank you, I here stories like your's and it reminds me why I don't want to go to film school... I wish the best of luck.
PS my um, sarcastic nature doesn't come through so well on Youtube comments... Terrible character flaw, I know.
SavageHenry78 3 years ago
yea, maybe one we'll do something to transfer tone to text, but for now.. little moments of confusion will play out.
thanks for understanding,
ill catch ya another time
XoSs 3 years ago
Stephan,
I gotta say that he may be onto something with the whole "fear" thing. I think PTA said it himself, if there is one thing that he could do differently, he would have had no fear. Fear is really the only thing holding any of us back. Really, there is no reason for you to not be hitting the festivals with your own flick right now. If that's what you want to do, then do it. Run head first into it. It feels good.
BrentonSteinhilber 3 years ago 3
The only thing that film school can still give you is experience, the rest is just fluff. But you can gain experience a lot quicker by just going out and doing. Pasternack seems like a great teacher, you could probably learn a lot about working with actors from him, but aside from DIRECTING professional ACTORS there isn't much the school can teach you, you already know all that shit. But as I said before, you can get that experience a lot faster by simply doing.
BrentonSteinhilber 3 years ago
yep, i think we've caught onto that for a while now. im seriously just doing it for my mom now, nothing more. just getting hat degree and leaving....
XoSs 3 years ago
That's a good reason too.
BrentonSteinhilber 3 years ago
Good luck getting an internship, then; a lot (most) studios won't take non-students in for insurance reasons. Not that it is the only way to get in, but at the same time it is a major door you are closing.
What do you have to lose, other than the money you are investing into your future, if you stay in? In the meantime you are networking, learning from professionals with experience in the industry, and being exposed to films you would never see on your own.
bluebettle 3 years ago
Well, you can do what PTA did and spend all your tuition money on making an actual film by yourself for dirt cheap. Your first film is to prove to these studios that you're competent, and that you can produce a movie for nothing. When you make it for nothing, you don't have to make anything back, so they don't care. You also learn a lot by going balls out into unchartered territory, and from doing it yourself.
chimpiki 3 years ago
lot more room to fail though =/
But then, nothing great comes without risk, right?
swordblade2003 2 years ago
It looks like some of the stuff he's saying about film school is poison to Elvis Mitchell's ears, as I'm sure he believes in being well educated first. This story, however, confirms my suspicion that a lot of these professors care more about the name attached to the movie than they do about the movie. If you told them Frank Capra had directed Terminator 2 they would see it in a completely different light. I think they're just bitter that they couldn't make it big in hollywood to be honest.
chimpiki 3 years ago
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AcidNeo 3 years ago
He's exactly right! My film teachers criticise the hell out of movies, my boxing coaches criticise fighters, it goes on and on, but what have they done? You can't teach talent, or artistic vision, whatever, you just can't. You can argue and say well look at this movie but that's a type of movie isn't it? styles make...movies?
kingpospisil 3 years ago 5
Mine too! :P I was instantly pissed when I entered my Visual Design class and was asked what my fave film was, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind...ya know...putting me on the spot. And the minute I said anything...he tore it down. WTF? It was my opinion and it's style is what made it a great movie and Gondry a fantastic filmmaker in my opinion.
thescienceofsleep88 3 years ago
It's always like that! I said something about some movie that was out at the time and my teacher pretty muched bitched me out -THE WHOLE DAY! And then he went on and complained about transformers. Hadn't he just contradicted himself? He's also one of the people who worship the cohen brothers. I think the process of "film school" in general is hillarious. Students especially, not just the teachers. I like Tarsem probably like you like Gondry.
kingpospisil 3 years ago
Ya know the egos are hilarious in film school. Especially from some of the know it all professors who tear anyone successful down! I just don't see how that is vital in teaching us anything. You're completely right about the constant criticism. I think it derives from a lot of professional jealousy. So...in observing some of them...I'm aspiring to not be like that. I don't want to let the industry change who I am or how I feel. I just want to make interesting movies. That's all.
thescienceofsleep88 3 years ago
I just like the teachers telling you what to do but if you sit back and think about it, look how far they made it? Joe Fraiser said to box the way it works for you. If you try to box like some strict way, you'll probably look off. That translates well with film, especially with artistic expression/ how elementary tears down beginning artists. Random? But "in all" I think(know) there is a little you can take from the whole overview of the bee-otch teacher-ism. No spelling errors, i meant it.
kingpospisil 3 years ago
who in the right mind would tear anything down about eternal sunshine?
jmackin622 2 years ago 3
ROFL
noskool319 2 years ago
Yes Paul! Legend
dimabbq 3 years ago
It's so recognizable!
Maarttttt 3 years ago
pta and tarantino shouldn't even be considered in the same category. PTA is a thousand times more talented than him. He hasn't made anything good since City on Fire.
ReidWConnell 3 years ago
"He hasn't made anything good since City on Fire."
I see what you did there.
BatemanDaPsycho 3 years ago
I suppose PULP FICTION!! is nothing to take note of or the Two Kill Bill's (Jackie Brown or Death proof are not as good in my opinion especially D.P but i can appreciate what he was trying to achieve, plus the high standard of his earlier pictures will always be a difficult benchmark to maintain). And for the record I think P.T.A is a fantastic film maker also & both are best buds who would have a good laugh at pretentious know-it-alls like ye two drawing half assed comparisons.
colkurtz8 3 years ago
This is for BatemanDaPsycho. I suppose you think you're real smart making reference to "City on Fire" when talking about "Dogs" & ReidWConnell to let us all know that "I see what you did there". is so fucking lame. To boldly state that QT hasnt made "anything good" since then is just plain ridiculous.
colkurtz8 3 years ago 3
Just one change to my rant below, i mixed up id's. ReidWConnell is the original poster & BatemanDaPsycho is the tool who cleverly backed him up.
colkurtz8 3 years ago
Great job Columbo... Dude what the fuck....
xyx755 3 years ago
..."Er, my walk loves you, but I dont agree with that in the workplace". Eric Hitchmo anymore?
colkurtz8 3 years ago
..."Er my wife loves you but I dont agree with that in the workplace. Eric Hitchmo anyone?
colkurtz8 3 years ago
I had huge hopes for Tarantino, but he hasn't made any good movies in more than ten years. Paul Thomas Anderson on the other hand makes REAL movies, and they are all very very good and original american films.
entelekhia 3 years ago 2
The fucking coolest director ever. Way more interesting than Tarantino, and better movies too!
explosivo101 3 years ago 3
i wouldn't say that, i've only seen anderson's There Will Be Blood so far, but i think tarantino's better. they're both great though.
Andr4s 3 years ago
I used to be the biggest fan of Tarantino, but I have to say PTA's movies are far more advanced and intelligent, and for me a lot more interesting.
explosivo101 3 years ago 3
I officiially now love pta. I go to film school and all they do there is feed you bullshit on what kind of films to make.
creampackage 4 years ago
T2 is a pretty awesome movie. Thank you for the vindication.
Mattfels 4 years ago 6
but you never have and never will write terminator 2 and you do write serious movies so your argument sucks, but you just sort of happen to be great anyway so you didn't really need it in the first place. i'm talking like i know him, but that's what i would say if i did.
Mizzohizzle 4 years ago 2
Not all of his movies are completely serious.
Boogie Nights and Punch Drunk Love are a little less serious than Magnolia and There Will be Blood (which I haven't seen yet). But even Magnolia is loaded with comedic, or at least less than serious elements.
And you be nice...
AwSiPr 4 years ago
i dont even think that was the point he was trying to make......good for PTA!
alessandrokaka1 4 years ago 2
I love this guy!!
bigpunholla 4 years ago
cool!
Kaalex123 4 years ago
love the background noise on this one.
anexperimat 4 years ago
he body language reminds me of QT. Anyway looking at that blonde girl made me realised she was probably trying to get in to the film biz! she can never be PTA
bashthebandello 4 years ago
what? what are you talking about
DasKapital 4 years ago 5
I swear to god man, PT is the next Kubrick. No question. I know thats a heavy statement, but this guy makes films so uniquely that you can easily compare his craft to Kubrick's.
videoguyy 4 years ago 2
Pt Anderson is one of the greatest filmmakers of all times. His films are beautiful poetic maesterpieces. PT IS A GENIOUS!
victorhv23 4 years ago 2
Man, I love this guy.
darkfaker 4 years ago 2
i love his body language in this one
BadlyDrawnGenitalia 5 years ago
T2 is a brilliant film
Hughezy 5 years ago 3
so awesome!
slewis 5 years ago