Yes, its beautiful still don't get me wrong, but it can't compare to the Solesmes one! :), I hope that help's. So long as this is not what they play on Sunday morning in Easter, I am okay with that :). Ohh well that is just my take on this.
It liturgial music, not always ment to be very artistic or inventive. It is in the style of the Notre Dame, adapted for a big church. In that case I like this version, although it would sound horrible when it was played in a local village church.
Gregorian themes like these are adapted througout the ages, and they have become 'songs for the people'
Gregorian themes are like open source software, everybody can make their own version of it, unless it stays a prayer, hymne or sequence.
Agree; it doesn't work. Sounds hobbled. There are ways to achieve almost the same effect but remaining true to meaning and tradition by putting more care and effort into the arrangement. How do you say "schlock" in French?
@VisitStPeters: This adaptation it´s normal in the Cathedral of Notre-Dame. This rhytm if absolutely french (XV century aprox). This music school (Notre Dame) was made this adaptation because this is the rhytm probabily used in the XV century on the liturgical music (Perotin is a model of this rhytm).
I agree, This adaptation brake "Gregorian Mode", because is more rhytmical and "Frenchly", but it's important because is a reference of the Sacred Music in Europe. This isn't a schlock.
@mecheverriadiaz Gregorian it isn't for sure any more, here. It sounds - sorry!- like something from northern france or the Flanders out of the early XV century. Entirely out of place and time. The rhytm is completely 'wrong'. I personally find bad taste translating a piece of music into something else, like playing baroque music with a romantic XIX cent. taste, Gluck like if it was Liszt. It has been done for sure, and somebody likes it. I disagree, that's all.
@Strophal - The syllabic stresses don't coincide with the natural cadence of the Latin, but it's a dead language, anyway, and the music is thrilling. Bravi, tutti!
@VisitStPeters I am not concerned with the pronounciation or the tongue. It's the musical rhythm that is very wrong, insofar it it typical of a taste very distant in space and time from those of the original composition. Had it been a modern rendition, I'd maybe dislike it but wouldn't comment. Producing a wannabe late medieval style on a early medieval tune is silly. Unless one can prove to me that this is a real XVcent. adaptation,in which case I'll dislike it but won't comment further.
@Strophal Oh, don't be so stiff. How many adaptations of "Greensleeves" do we have, for instance, many of them quite modern and away from the original? I personally like this version very much; it's pretty strong and spiritual. Maybe if I had heard before the original gregorian I would not have said the same, but it was not the case. Now I find the original a little boring :D
@Strophal: This Rhythmical adaptation was made by Pierre Cochereau (Organist of Notre-Dame) and this version is played by Philippe Lefevbre, Organist of Notre-Dame. I think its'n horrible. It's better than the guitar and schlock lyrics. Salut!
@Strophal: A me questo brano è piaciuto molto. Trovo questa interpretazione molto delicata. Il coro è impeccabile. L'accompagnamento organistico non ha bisogno di commenti. Il nome di Philippe Lefebvre è una garanzia. Thanks. Sergio - Milano
Yes, its beautiful still don't get me wrong, but it can't compare to the Solesmes one! :), I hope that help's. So long as this is not what they play on Sunday morning in Easter, I am okay with that :). Ohh well that is just my take on this.
tedeumjorge 3 months ago
@tedeumjorge Actually this IS what they sing during the Sunday Easter mass. This is unique to Notre Dame de Paris, never heard this anywhere else.
SimplyDavid42 3 months ago
It liturgial music, not always ment to be very artistic or inventive. It is in the style of the Notre Dame, adapted for a big church. In that case I like this version, although it would sound horrible when it was played in a local village church.
Gregorian themes like these are adapted througout the ages, and they have become 'songs for the people'
Gregorian themes are like open source software, everybody can make their own version of it, unless it stays a prayer, hymne or sequence.
SADRailsim 6 months ago
Some people here have nothing else to do. Get a life. If you like it don't like it, nobody cares.
jaalexis2002 7 months ago
I love that hymn. I'm happy to sing it when I can, even if it is quite complicated :)
Christ is risen.
captaincook71 10 months ago
Agree; it doesn't work. Sounds hobbled. There are ways to achieve almost the same effect but remaining true to meaning and tradition by putting more care and effort into the arrangement. How do you say "schlock" in French?
christopherjhoh 10 months ago
@christopherjhoh - ouch! :)
VisitStPeters 10 months ago
@VisitStPeters: This adaptation it´s normal in the Cathedral of Notre-Dame. This rhytm if absolutely french (XV century aprox). This music school (Notre Dame) was made this adaptation because this is the rhytm probabily used in the XV century on the liturgical music (Perotin is a model of this rhytm).
I agree, This adaptation brake "Gregorian Mode", because is more rhytmical and "Frenchly", but it's important because is a reference of the Sacred Music in Europe. This isn't a schlock.
mecheverriadiaz 10 months ago
I like it, feels powerful
finezephyr 10 months ago
Who's the ignorant that made such an adaptation? Horrible
Strophal 10 months ago
@Strophal: This adaptation is Gregorian Form and French Paraphrasis ("French Gregorian Mode" on the rithm).
The "Alleluia" is for Mass, and "Music Bridge" is and interlude improvisation of Phillipe Lefevbre. Look the record of Pierre Cochereau. Saludos.
mecheverriadiaz 10 months ago
@mecheverriadiaz Gregorian it isn't for sure any more, here. It sounds - sorry!- like something from northern france or the Flanders out of the early XV century. Entirely out of place and time. The rhytm is completely 'wrong'. I personally find bad taste translating a piece of music into something else, like playing baroque music with a romantic XIX cent. taste, Gluck like if it was Liszt. It has been done for sure, and somebody likes it. I disagree, that's all.
Strophal 10 months ago
@Strophal Por qué? A Ud. como le gustaría? Yo la hallo hermosa la versión.
ReBemol 10 months ago
@Strophal - The syllabic stresses don't coincide with the natural cadence of the Latin, but it's a dead language, anyway, and the music is thrilling. Bravi, tutti!
VisitStPeters 10 months ago
@VisitStPeters I am not concerned with the pronounciation or the tongue. It's the musical rhythm that is very wrong, insofar it it typical of a taste very distant in space and time from those of the original composition. Had it been a modern rendition, I'd maybe dislike it but wouldn't comment. Producing a wannabe late medieval style on a early medieval tune is silly. Unless one can prove to me that this is a real XVcent. adaptation,in which case I'll dislike it but won't comment further.
Strophal 10 months ago
@Strophal - your distaste is well founded. I shall only consider my enjoyment of this a guilty pleasure. :)
VisitStPeters 10 months ago
@Strophal Oh, don't be so stiff. How many adaptations of "Greensleeves" do we have, for instance, many of them quite modern and away from the original? I personally like this version very much; it's pretty strong and spiritual. Maybe if I had heard before the original gregorian I would not have said the same, but it was not the case. Now I find the original a little boring :D
actaviri 5 months ago
@Strophal: This Rhythmical adaptation was made by Pierre Cochereau (Organist of Notre-Dame) and this version is played by Philippe Lefevbre, Organist of Notre-Dame. I think its'n horrible. It's better than the guitar and schlock lyrics. Salut!
mecheverriadiaz 10 months ago 2
@Strophal: A me questo brano è piaciuto molto. Trovo questa interpretazione molto delicata. Il coro è impeccabile. L'accompagnamento organistico non ha bisogno di commenti. Il nome di Philippe Lefebvre è una garanzia. Thanks. Sergio - Milano
cusrer 2 weeks ago