X3 Terran Conflict - How to kill a Xenon Q in an M3

[crossgate123]

lulz this is the same thing I did.

[barak219]

could anyone help me, how do i equip and upgrade engines for capital ships if i cant dock? do i need to have a transport following me all the time?

[SilentShroud]

@barak219 you can dock at equipment docks with a capital ship, they sell engine tunings, rudder extensions and cargo bay expanders there

[joiceyuk]

ahhh i was going to make a video but it seams im not the only person who thought of the tactic. i can avoid incoming fire just fine but i nly have an eclipse with 6 High Energy Plasma Throwers and 2 ion disruptors. so it take me roughly 8 minutes to bring this thing down. :(

[DK988]

How did you do that? I mean you were heading to one direction and then just pointed you front back words fast to avoid the missile?

[SilentShroud]

@DK988

If you mean the banshee missile that the Q fired at the start, they turn really slowly and go at about 150m/s IIRC, so when I turned to get into the blind spot of the Q, it circled around me, at which point the flamers took it out, it was more luck tbh, since I had 100% shielding, I could have taken the hit and be left with 33% shield, if it had fired any more missiles, the flamer would take them out instantly.

[DK988]

@SilentShroud

Yeah but the mamba doesn't have any turrets so you have to shoot the missiles down your self and they are hard to spot, shooting them down is easy but finding them in an area with enemies shooting at you is the hard part.

I always have this problem with the mamba which is why I tend to use the Nova Raider. does the advanced mamba have a turret?

[SilentShroud]

@DK988 no

however the mamba is faster than all missiles that can seriously hurt it, so if your in a tight spot just boost away (except for flail missiles).

[HelmutVillam]

@DK988

Mamba Raider has a rear turret.

[eigokudemangaka]

You evil fucking c**t. I like your tactics :D

[K00113R]

ALALALALALALALALERT TOTOTOTOTOTOTOTORNADO missile self-destructed xD

[Saiien3]

YEAH PLASMA BURST! Cook that flying pc! :D Nice vid

[michlightstudio]

haha you`ve got a great ship there! i had a asp, armed with four particle accelerator guns! tok a eternity, and all the police said was great work... omg, at least i would expect some credits

[SilentShroud]

@michlightstudio haha lol yer i used the asp at the start of this game. the otus m4+ is better but the asp just looks so damn awsome!

that must have taken an eternity tho, I miss the times back in X3 and X2 where even the m5s and m4s of paranid vessels could fit PSGs, you could take out Khaak capitals in them!

[michlightstudio]

nice sounds innteresting,, m4+ well im just a newbie at this game but i actually managed to take out a nova vanguard with my asp, and hell yeah the pirate left his wonderful ship! its great 3x 25 mg shields and lots of energy,, khaak,, like a corvette cruiser?

[SilentShroud]

@michlightstudio hehe the good ol novas. wait till u get the adv mamba! same shields but a bloody lot faster. with the nova, you can still get hurt by missiles. the mamba outruns anything that seriously hurts it xD slimmer profile too so strafing is deliciously effective. yep the ASP is a good ship, I think I used 2PBE and 4HEPTS, its a hit and run ship ;) capable of killing M6s

[SilentShroud]

@michlightstudio in X2 the pirate m5 could mount alpha PSGs, if you used enough distraction you could get into blind spots of M2s and M1s and kill them :) same with X3 reunion with the Yaki and Paranid M4s

[OminiElemental]

It also has blind spots at the sides. In between the two outter platform like things that has the guns mounted to it. I was able to chill in there in an Argon M3 using Phased Repeater Guns. Took me like, 20-30 or so minutes but eventually killed it :p

[slayedtorest]

@OminiElemental I used that same strategy as well, except I used four Mass drivers mounted on a Nova. I was amazed it actually worked the first time I tried it. :)

[Fishercardinal]

Great shooting kid! Right in the exhaust valve!

[buokopter]

I do this in spitfyre.

but,spitfyre is so overbuffed ship so not big deal.

[buokopter]

PBG is the most anoying thing...

i hate this cannon...

eat shields like fire paper.

[Futzyy]

Ahh...I remember I killed several in my Barracuda (forget which variation...Raider I think) with HEPTS, takes a bit longer but so much fun...took on 2 in my Hydra, pretty sure, and then it was just easy when I got my Shrike.

[eltsoldier]

You've got one hell of a ship there, man. I still need to learn how to fight effectively. Using an Advanced Perseus M3 I found in Duke's Citadel for now, PBE's and HEPT's for weapons. I can barely take down an M6 right now let alone a Xenon capital ship... Interesting position you had though, nestling your ship in between those fins or walls or whatever sticks out from the body. If the ship had any buddies they might shoot you and hit the Q instead. Confirm please?

[SilentShroud]

@eltsoldier yes sorry for the slow reply, you are correct, although the fins are not always the best place to hide, because its a bit narrow, if something hits you from above or behind, it is a bit annoying to run away. I find Qs most useful as a shield when you notice a K, J, or another Q approaching but is not yet in FLAK range, and to position it between you and the incoming PPC/IBL fire. One day il make a video of that...

[dave19941000]

the hard part is getting into the blind spot.

[MrButtcrap]

al al al al al al alert.... missile closing

[commandotoy]

its simple.... scripts!

[cygod1]

I drive one of those qs there really good but there's no point of using weapons against m3 m4 m5 m6 because you can just ram them ram an m6 takes about 20 shielding of thinking of havin an army of them lol I'm driving a q because my xenon destroyer justs crash into anythink great video ")

[Livingforpace]

to..to..to..to..tornado missile self destructed xD

[SilentShroud]

yer lol, it must have been misses on a previous Q i killed :)

[LordKhensu]

Springblossom is the best ( hope I wrote the name right )

it is M6, has good Terran weapons, can use all AoE weapon layout, but the biggest fun is, that it has a max speed of 360!! :D

[SilentShroud]

um the springy is good but it doesnt have area of effect weapons. Its got MAMLS which are the best M6 mountable weapons tho :D

[YariQue87]

alalalalalalalert....)))) yeah i remember time when i was kicking asses to xenon ''J'' and ''K'' with ''Eclipse'' that was fun! totototototototornado missle...))))

[kingpaul1985]

any 1 got any money cheats and then can u tell me how to get it working?

[Kanesloyalservant]

My favourite way of terrorising the Xenon is with my trusty Vidar. 'Nuff said. 10 guns are really nice. The ship itself is free, too. YAY!... ahem...

[SilentShroud]

yes vidar is my fav M6 too. i love its manouverability, its perfect for boarding ops. shame about its slow speed though :( MAML FTW on M6

[Razputin53]

@SilentShroud where do you get an M7M and is it possible to make boarding easier without pods?

[SilentShroud]

@Razputin53  sorry i dont quite understand your question. boarding is done best using M6s, or M7Ms. M6s you dont need pods, but you can carry only a few marines. M7Ms you use pods, and you can carry a lot more marines, especially with a transport device, and a few TPs lying around near you.

[Razputin53]

@SilentShroud Sorry, my question was, where do i purchase an M7M? I've tryed to capture like a paranid station hauler thing without pods, but it kept outrunning my marines and they couldnt board it.

[OfficeThug]

@Razputin53 Super Shipyards have M7Ms for sale, and some regular shipyards might have them as well. Explore some sectors until you find some. Apparently the Split M7M is the best out of the bunch since it's the fastest. Also boarding pods aren't so good for capping either, since their hit box is gigantic.

Also capturing a Q is ridiculously hard, so hard in fact there's an achievement for capping one of the damn things. Unless you have 5-5-5-5 mercs you'll have a hell of a hard time capping one.

[X3freako]

@SilentShroud may i ask what lasers are you using or are those just missiles?

[SilentShroud]

@X3freako the flamethrower thingeys are called plasma burst generators. PBG for short. I find they are the highest damage output weapons for the M3 class ships per energy used. The only downside is that its got the shortest range of any weapon in the game. I guess its the X3TC "shotgun" equivalent :)

[X3freako]

@SilentShroud thx and from which station cna i get it?

[SilentShroud]

@X3freako this is one of the hardest weapons in game to get. unless you are friendly with pirates or yaki. you can try find a plasma burst generator forge in pirate space, and if its red, take a station hacking mission to turn in blue, and feed the new friendly station with ecells, spacefuel and other commodities it needs. Personally, I really cannot be arsed so I just kill shitloads of pirates, and very occasionally, you will cap a pirate ship with a few equipped.

[OminiElemental]

@X3freako Pirates are the only ones that sell the PBG.

Just like Yakis are the only ones to sell the IBL

[Dannymofo]

"PBG are very good at taking down capital ships in an M3 because it has an AoE."

Whats AoE?

P.s

I've used this trick many times over lol.

[SilentShroud]

AoE is area of effect. this means that compared to standard weaps like hepts, the rate of damage increases in proportion to the targets volume. thus capital class vessels wont take as long to kill using PBG than HEPTs in an M3

[Lordpianz]

Nice, I never knew

[magicorp1]

i do the same thign with xenon k blind spots rock

[SilentShroud]

try xenon px, they also have blindspot but imo xenon PX is more dangerous than K

[mcflurey667]

dude u must have a super computer

[SilentShroud]

i wish.

its a few years old now :(