Underground City Hall C-Train

[andrewepdolan]

too sucessful, no foresight to this transit system! (more than 50 years)

[TheDeadmous]

I HAVE COME FROM FUTURE TO TELL YOU THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON IT

[gsgeek540]

Barp.ca has an article that back everything I have said up

[gsgeek540]

but the thing that your misunderstanding is the fact there is a tunnel already built and has been built since 1981 If you ride the train through the cp tunnel, you can even see the turn off and the wall that blocks the tunnel. they blocked it off during the transit strike because of the bums that tried to sleep and live down there. The original plan was to put it underground but funding faded and they were forced to go above ground

[JaminSpanky]

I Just Can't Wait Cause There's 5 LRT Stations Underground let ya Know

City Hall, Centre Street, 3rd Street SW, 5 Street SW And 7th Street SW Stations Underground

[Historymaker2001]

@JaminSpanky I can't find any source material that states that there are underground stations even planned, much less completed, for Centre Street, 3rd, 5th, and 7th. To my knowledge the only stations underground at this time are the unfinished City Hall and Westbrook (under construction with west LRT line) stations. Where did you get this info?

[acupoflego]

Its all good till you hit 4th ave sw then 9" under the pavement you hit the bow river water table. Now I not a rocket scientist but if you need to pump millions of litres fof water every day just to build more tunnel i only see the price tag going up and up best estimation to put the tunnel under 7th ave where the city hall tunnel starts would probally cost the city 1 -2 Billion dollars who wants a tax hike last years did not go over well with the city residents of even 4,5% imagine 18% tax hike

[gsgeek540]

@acupoflego obviously you have misunderstood where this tunnel is. It is a east west tunnel under 8 ave sw, south of 7 ave as you suggest. This is not a north south tunnel going any where near the bow river like you suggest.

[acupoflego]

@gsgeek540 I did not suggest there was a tunnel goes north south please read the first line about a water table. At 4th ave the water table is 9" below the pavement as you draw this line at 7th avenue its about 3 feet down. which means when the bow is at its max height in spring run off just gotta dig down 3' at 7th avenue and you will find water. naturall occuring as this is the bow rives water table at spring run off. it starts this from late march early april till mid - late june.

[Junokaii]

Perhaps we could figure a way out to have that line adjacent to the CP Rail that the West is also adjacent to near the Greyhound Depot. It is a far cheeper solution in my opinion. Even if it was almost entirely elevated it could work.

Cause we all know that the purposed highspeed rail line to edm along that track will never happen. So, perhaps.. we could use that space for a more needed priority for the City as a whole instead of a highspeed fantasy dream.

[akibem1]

Nenshi will make this one of the top priority to use this tunnel for lrt. Can't wait to see.

[Scorponox]

Brienne is such a hottie!

[FotomanCalgary]

Edmonton's is designed better...it's underground - especially downtown.

Underground is more expensive, but it doesn't take up any roads, and doesn't disrupt traffic flow and create traffic jams!!

I have many friends that work for transit, and the underground tunnels that are there, are too small for the current cars. They will NOT spend the Millions of dollars to enlarge the tunnels, so no matter what they say in this "2008" broadcast, it will NOT be used.

[Historymaker2001]

@FotomanCalgary I'm not sure what "facts" the friends you refer to are quoting, but that tunnel was built when the new Municipal Building was built, in 1995. Thats 14 years AFTER the C-Train began operations with the U2s. The new 160s are not much different - half a meter longer, but the same width/height. I find it extremely difficult to believe that the city would be shortsighted enough to build a tunnel that wouldn't work with equipment that they'd had for 14 years PRIOR to that tunnel.

[gsgeek540]

@Historymaker2001 What you are doing is not only condracting the report in the video but your giving false dates and facts. The LRT going underground was apart of the original LRT plans. If you have ever read the LRT south alignment plan, you would clearly see this. The cost of continuing the line underground was apparently more expensive then building it above ground so they ended up boycotting the project and started constructing on 7 ave in 1980, less then a year before the line was to open.

[gsgeek540]

@Historymaker2001 On top of that, city hall was built in 1985. Not 1995 as you suggest. Any questions? Please get your facts straight before making your self look like such a fucking retard!

[Historymaker2001]

@gsgeek540 OK, if you are going to berate me on my facts, get your own right. City Hall was opened on June 26, 1911, and still stands. The municipal building was built in 1985 (Yes, I will admit my error there). The spur tunnel on the other hand, was NOT built with the Victoria Park-Downtown tunnel, but was built with the municipal building. My source is a June, 1982-dated copy of the City Hall area redevelopment PLAN, from the Calgary Planning Department.

[gsgeek540]

@Historymaker2001 i stick by my statements

[Dodgeram591]

should go south to okotoks

[Zorn27]

perfect place for some road hockey

[FishPhil]

Just a thought, but until this station is actually in use, why not turn this thing into a homeless shelter? It's not like they can go to the Cecil anymore!

[gsgeek540]

@FishPhil irronically, thats the reason they boarded up the tunnel. During the transit strike in 2001 i believe, homeless people had actually snuck into there and developed a little colony in there :P

[SPS148669]

And edmonton is building a simliar "LRT tunnel to nowhere" under the new epcore tower, with the reccesion edmonton not gonna afford to finnish the new north line. So edmonton can now use our new short incomplete tunnel under the new epcore tunnel store an "Ark of the Covenant"

[garycalgary]

@SPS148669

wow you like being sarcastic.

There are plans to use the Epcor tunnel

[SPS148669]

@garycalgary

The Calgary "Empty Tunnel" is very wide so I am guessing was was supposed to be a crossover cavern since Edmonton downtown subway has crossover sectoin that widen like that. I seen photos of Edmontons new "Empty Tunnel" under Epcore and it's just 2 twin tubes with no crossover cavern. I hope they get the funding to finnish it though.

[vancouver76]

does anyone know how to find the entrance to this tunnel? I'd be interested to see it, even if it's not accessible to the public.

[downtownincowtown]

Yeah. Get on the train at City Hall, and make sure your sitting on the right side looking toward the back of the train. You'll have to look carefully, but just after the train enters the Tunnel, you'll see it vere off to the right. That is the underground train line.

[garycalgary]

yes the entrance to the LRT underground tunnel is located on the south line right across from city hall you can see the entrance to the tunnel which is boarded up as the train goes by

[cosmosvision]

really, never knew that, I take the NE line, so I never take the south line unless i'm going to Chinook.

[WesternCanadian]

The entrance is located in the alderman's parkade. It is a big hinged steel plate trap door on the floor and is only marked 'confined entry'. It has a simple padlock on it. Once you get past that, it is a 40' man ladder down into the station. The station is HUGE and looks like 2 blocks long, and as wide as North and South deerfoot put together.

[garycalgary]

@vancouver76 you can't get to the underground tunnel on calgarys ctrain it's blocked from bankers hall and the tunnel is boarded up near city hall you can see it on the train as you go by

[rinnerz]

Bronchonnier looks like a total moron

[mrTrags]

I KNEW IT! my friends and i have been exploring all over to find this tunnel, we knew the city had one, we just never got to se

[BMR130]

I'd like to see the city put this underground tunnel into use. I always say, "why start something you can't finish". It's only going to have to go underground some day anyway. So use it Calgary!!!

[SPS148669]

Edmonton is building a tunnel under a new epcore tower under construction but theirs hints with without proper funding for north-west LRT it may become a "tunnel to nowhere" just like calgary in this video.