The Britpop Story PART 4 FINALE

[wwrjd1523]

funny that the best thing to come out of britain at this time was ok computer and radiohead

[JosephD3180]

wish i had been a 90s teenager

[cheekymonkey1979]

@JosephD3180 I was a 90's teenager; I lived Britpop from day one (Modern Life is Rubbish was one of the first albums I bought). It was great fun, but so much of the music was derivative and disposable. Aside from Suede, Pulp, Blur and some lesser bands not mentioned here (like the Auteurs / Black Box Recorder, who were masterful British contemporaries of Suede, or the Super Furry Animals, who never fit the britpop tag), I never listen to the music from the britpop era. Sleeper were shit!

[JosephD3180]

@cheekymonkey1979 oasis are my favorite from the period, like the masterplan and definitely maybe- epic albums. some of blurs stuff was good but they made twats out of themselves. pulps albums his n hers and different class were just amazing, the stone roses and happy mondays were about in the 90s, dont forget that. primal scream are class, like scremadelica- 1991 it was released in. and lets not forget nirvana and the grunge era.

[rusmanbond]

Second wave Britpop is a load of bollocks, fuck Coldplay, Blur for the win.

[stoptheclocks2]

God how i wish I was much older back in 94-97! I would kill to be in pubs hearing songs like Live forver, beetlebum, some might say, riverboat etc...

BTW Oasis thrashed Blur based on sales...not just in the UK worldwide Oasis have sold well over 50million album where as blur have barely done 10million

[Strohh4lm]

Blur is perfect

[shubhangster]

Centuries from now, people will listen to the music and wonder how shit like Oasis could outsell a class act like Blur. History will judge us harshly

[Rob1973Monkey]

Tony Blair, my arse......Warmongering prick

[TheNiko005]

who the fuck says that be here now was the end of indie rock?????oasis rocked til 2009. 2009, the year in which classic rock n roll died. i hope there will be a band at least half good as oasis, the who, pink floyd or u2

[powerlester]

0:51 The world would have been a better place if it stayed like that.

[blachubear]

It's funny Oasis broke up & Blur got back together(and now thinking recording new material).

[GallagherFanatic]

Be here now - Musical disaster? It's in my top 3 Oasis albums easily!

[Ipoh82]

they forget about Radiohead..They are british band..

[mewert]

@Ipoh82 yeah but Radiohead wisely distanced themselves from Britpop

[12JimmySmith]

@Ipoh82 Radiohead are british, but they are not "britpop"

Britpop is defined as a band who's singer sings with a regional english accent, and their lyrics are based around english life.

[hellohellogone]

John Harris is right about the lasting un-influence of Pulp, Suede etc...........Oasis lead to Coldplay and all them other bands........just horrible.

I think their first two albums were the best, after that it was just..........................­.....very dissapointing.

[SmithersJones87]

I think even Noel Gallahger himself regrets that Tony Blair speach, but when you consider the times, its almost understandable in a way. For starters, the Tories had been in power for the best part of two decades, and this was long before Blair bcame bezzie mates with 'Dubya'....

Seeing Obama getting elected across the pond in recent years seemed to have echoes of that time for me...

[IndianaJoel93]

I have never been in favour of "Britpop" niether are my parents, when the genre was at its hight even at a young age I didnt like the sound, the vocals just sounded cheap, the music around me at a young age of about 6 or 7 was Queen, Guns N Roses,REM, Foo Fighters, Soundgarden, Nirvana, things like that, and as I got older bands like Muse, Linkin Park, Green Day, System of a Down, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, ect were added to my musical pallett,

[pleaseopenyourshop]

Its funny how irrelevant and how many of these bands are totally gone now at the time this documentary was filmed in 2005............2005 did get me thinking about the 10 years before though, since 2005 was such a lame year for music, again.

The best years were 92 to 96......and then it slowly got worse.

[okee9]

I think Bret Anderson summed oasis up perfectly when he referred to them as "The singing electricians"

[fuckclearchannel]

@okee9 I've never heard that but that's kind of funny. I do know he's tried to distance himself from both Oasis and Blur (the latter probably because Frischmann dumped him and got together with Damon.) If Harris is annoying you hear you should avoid The Quietus; some of their writers dislike Oasis, some of them dismiss Oasis and Blur, but they all like Suede so hats off to them for that. Hats off to Harris for remembering Suede since people forget about their importance sometimes.

[fuckclearchannel]

John Harris hates Oasis? He has said that the "Is it worth the aggravation/to find yourself a job when there's nothing worth working for?" line in "Cigarettes & Alcohol" is "brilliant". I'll be back in Northamptonshire this summer, and I'll check out his book.

[yesyesohyay10]

@fuckclearchannel

have you seen the stuff he writes on the guardian?, he slags them off at any opportunity, props up Albarn

[fuckclearchannel]

@yesyesohyay10 I read one thing just before this doc aired. I hear his book his better; I'll check it out as soon as I can to see what he writes about them. I just remember him on Seven Ages of Rock talking about how brilliant "Cigarettes and Alcohol" is, so he might be one of the people who thinks they have one good album. I find the whole Blur vs. Oasis thing to be apples and oranges. One transcends styles, the other's a straight ahead rock and ballads band. Both are good and influential.

[overandoutgovt]

John Harris is always good for a laugh, always using the word "extent" and "token",

[FlyingFishify]

Its funny how everyone in the media are so desperetly trying to paint Oasis as a shit band that became irrelevent after Knebworth, but the people still buy there albums, anything to do with oasis is always big news. No matter how much the newspapers try to get rid of Oasis they will always be around.

[pimski]

thats was utter bollox the guy who made this should be slaped hes missed the point

[lohello567]

Oasis looking back should of definitley gone into hiding for 3 years and then come back when the pressure was off more.

[TheMrbollox]

John Harris-cuntish piece of shit

[lohello567]

Go easy on John Harris, it can't be easy doing a whole documentary on a band that you don't like very much.

[batleywhites]

as noel said

not most bands will sell 7 million in there own career never mind one album

[franzzzzeska]

where can i find the scene that jarvis presents blur on TOTP?

[rogan71]

15 years on it all looks a bit fruity now.

[lohello567]

Thats because all those bands just collapsed in a heap of drugs booze and dillusion, none of them quit, they all just kept juicing it till their was just the sking left.

And they tried to eat it as well, which made it even worse!!!

[scottyboy606]

country house is an awful song, Roll with it was certainly not one of Oasis's best either

[23everybreathyoutake]

Oasis's third album Be Here Now was not a dissapointment, it was just people has moved on by the time August 1997 rolled around. Had it come out in 1996 things would of been a bit different - and then their would of been a new album in 1998/1999 - 1999 perhaps.

[barrybas]

haha.. Alex James on TOTP wearing an Oasis shirt! completely forgot about that over the past 15 or so years

those were heady days...

[CharlieChaz82]

John Harris' book which this documentary is based in goes into far more detail and is brilliant. You should check it out..It's called 'The Last Party'.

[JMR83]

What an utter fucking twat Liam looks at the Brits.

[scottyboy606]

think you would act like a twat as well if you were on the same amont of smack liam was on that night too lol

[JMR83]

As if that is really something to be proud of. Sums up the whole Britpop shite up. Thinking it's cool to act like a cunt.

[mandolaman12]

ah.. I miss the 90s

[oasis11991]

live forever by oasis was the defining song of the 90's

[cndn85MB]

No, you shouldn't just look at record sales. But honestly...both Blur and Oasis set out to be popular and reach people. Convenient now to say..."Well...Blurs music is better...most people are just too stupid to understand it"

Take "Think Tank" the critical darling that it was. Only went gold.

SOTSOG, critical flop, double platinum.

If people don't like it how can it be better?

If anybody was a spent force it was Blur. People lost interest in them...not Oasis.

[figocooldude]

Hit me baby on more time prevented Tender being number one, seriously, record sells don't say anything.

[mewert]

couldnt have put it better myself.

[cndn85MB]

I think it's funny that people say that Blur are 'more exciting' or 'interesting'

And yet I think that people are much more excited and interested by Oasis. Because the media doesn't like them. If people weren't so interested in them the media would drop them like a hot potato. But they can't 'cause people love 'em

[theocean1973]

there are some great bands today, about as many as the nineties had. im glad about oasis still being together, though. their songs were best in the nineties, but their SOUND was best in the 2000s.

[mstipendiary28]

John Harris is a bit of a smug, condescending cunt with his sneering dismissals of Athlete and Coldplay, I'd rather hear their songs than read your shitty writings Harris you twat.

[sophielouisewatkins]

i wish britpop would come back. what's with all the rubbish we get now?

[xxdyogas1]

Yea, but Oasis still makes great albums, Blur and The Verve reunited (and there is an opportunity that Suede will do the same), so, maybe... It'll come back

[Film240292]

I'm a little miffed that they keep implying that Damon was some sort of public school boy! He and Graham went to a comprehensive in Essex. Just because they don't wear parkas and speak in a thuggish way with northern accents doesn't mean that they were silver spooned toffs. That preconception is insulting for both the north and the south. Come on now are we still coupling intelligence with wealth, that is so harsh for all of us from less "impressive" backgrounds.

[binstig]

I dont like how Oasis biased this documentary is.

[mewert]

true. but if you were there you wouldve realised just how big oasis were....whether people like them or not they were a massive presence in the 90s and their status in britain in 1996 even rivals the beatlemanina of 1964.

[davidbeast123]

d'ya know what i mean, its on be here now

[gemarcher83]

Green day = american cunts!

God Bless Noel Gallagher!

Pure genius!

[Blazershigh5]

early green day is good... later not so much

[IndianaJoel93]

@gemarcher83 Green Day are amazing, Noel Gallagher is the cunt

[12JimmySmith]

@gemarcher83 why are Green Day cunts?

[jcrawley1]

I was too young to remember Be Here Now coming out, so I can't say whether it was 'fantastically dissappointing'. But I can listen to it all the way through now and really enjoy it. I think it's an awesome record.

[ozzysab]

I was old enough to remember, saved up to buy the album the day it come out, blew my mind, my fav by them...hope people understand it one day)

[NatsLee83]

I like Blur and Oasis, Damon and Noel are true musical genius'.

[cndn85MB]

I know why people single Noel out of Oasis as he wrote most of their songs alone. He was bascially the ONLY creative force for the first 6 years, until Andy and Gem joined and Liam started writing.

But I was always led to believe that Blur was more of a collaborative effort amongst the band...so why does Damon get all the kudos?

[marniebrooke1982]

I like both Oasis and Blur I am australian dont get the whole north south divide lol

[opanashuffle]

blur = rubbish

[trtmaster83]

Oasis is boring designed to be mainstream and catchy. Blur has more dynamic and as for Noel Gallagher he couldn't touch the genius of some of Graham Coxon guitar work.

[brady3249ers]

Fookin donkey, "Be Here Now" was such quality. This guy is an idiot.

[caustic77755]

word

[Fhawerkk]

Blur is a good band, they don't make bad music. But Oasis has something special, i don't know what but Oasis touches you deep inside

[ccoleeds]

if you ask me

british indie music won

[mastercooly7]

Oasis won the proverbial battle, though it wasnt really one, but to be brutally honest you could say Blur self destrcuted the whole thing by making the battle, but Oasis were always going to outshine them.

Oasis are more than just a band, Blur are just a band.

[BahmanG]

@mastercooly7 personally, I like oasis better than blur. but you have to admit: damon albarn is a more innovative song writer than oasis. Consider his work: Gorillaz, Mali Music, experimenting with Blur...

[KingHotdog]

@mastercooly7 people look back now and think Oasis were well overated Blur had so many different gears while oasis were the same old shit and time has told the story

[freymaroto]

connoisseur...sorry... i couldn't rhink of another word...

[Bilisnikola]

In 1994 I would definetly bet on oasis but now their are done and they became boring while blur has 7 different albums every exciting in their own way. If you ask me blur has won

[trey4victory]

If you ask World, Oasis have won

[freymaroto]

but who said the world is right???

[trey4victory]

No ma man, you are. Ma bad all the way. Fuck majority, record sales, worldwide tours, chart positions and recognition. I apologize.

[freymaroto]

I don't think you understand what i meant.

Oasis indeed won in those departaments: tours, majority, record sales . maistream succes.

But Blur wins when it comes to album reviews, recognition from media & critics, recognition from musicians and "connoceurs".

For the maistream world Oasis won. But for "connosuers" Blur is far more respected.

[dragjord43]

boring wtf 200 standing shoulders of giants massive check out im outta time arount in the 19s it would of won britpop all trought

[cyanna4e]

the only true thing about that battle is that it was fake.british industry set it up

[giecuk]

Oasis fucking Great...!

[unlockthepower]

What's all this crap about "Oasis's disapointing 3rd album" so many people slag that album off...why? It's an incredible album!! Those first 3 albums are their best! "Be Here Now" is an absolute quality album!

[xllucyx]

I LOVE 'BE HERE NOW'!

[LylaRox]

Yup, brilliant album!!!

[skata11]

and so i say to all my brothers and sisters who slag oasis ..well there relevent now and for a very very long time ..there kinda of a special band why?? well judgeing from the reaction there still being talked about wether loved or hated they still mean something ..and you know what that how i will always like it!! to brit pop but clearly to th ebest band oasis cheers mad fer it!!

[pnw13]

Watched all four parts... the best line being "And Oasis? Well, they're still Oasis."

That's right, LIVE FOREVER.

[lomo82]

Not really! Oasis has changed their band members so many times.

[DoverOverClover]

Blur > Oasis

[Graffasus]

ahaha as much as i agree with you, that's just encouraging more Blur vs. Oasis arguments of lameness :(

[emmadferit1994]

OASIS - DM, WTSMG, BHN, SOTSOG GREAT ALBUMS!

HC - 3/5! DBTT - 3.5/5! DOYS - GREAT. Be here now is great, wtf if the songs were long, they were great songs, who wudn't sing along to stand by me, all around the world, dyou know what i mean?.. sotsog is really great too, songs like gas panic, roll it over and go let it out make it a classic album.heathen is really experimental but DBTT is a good album while i feel that DOYS would be great. Stop the criticism about be here now! pls

[mattyboy1000]

HAHA how can you say they have 8 good albums and oasis 2 albums, DM and WTSMG were so big every1 new it would be virtually impossible to make an album better than them and Be here now was a quality album songs like doya know what i mean, dont go away, all around the world etc then u got albums like masterplan (B side) with songs like rocking chair, listen up, fade away they all piss on blurs songs. Not sayin i dont like blur but oasis r way beyond them in everyway, dig out your soul baby!!

[emmadferit1994]

agree! sotsog is also great.. blur is good. Oasis is great..

BAG IT UP BABY!

[CSRKO1993]

blur has 8 out of 8 gd albums while oasis only have 2 out of 8 gd albums oasis are a good band wonderwall is a classic but blur are more orignal & come up with something new all the time oasis are still here but they died ages ago

[somedayiwill]

How can he forget to mention Travis at the end?

[tomsin123]

coz they are largely boring

[dhwngml]

I still don't get why people find it so hard to like both Oasis and Blur.

[ThinkTank85]

Tell me about it lol, they're my two favourite bands and anyway the war is over, Noel & Liam have both said that they don't mind Damon, Noel actually liked the stuff Damon did in Gorillaz and he likes his new band too.

[bennyboykikass]

i agree

[mattyw1874]

Sorry but if lyrics like.. Girl who like boys who like boys who like girls hoo like boy and hte girls actualy appeals to anyone that dosnt hav a fuckin private jet there is sommit rong with then.

Oasis have it right we're gonna see thing that others will never see and we're gonna live forever

[UB5GUY]

Lol m8 That Songs Quality + Song 2, Bettlebum,Tender, Parklife Are Genius Oasis R Gd But Blur R Much Better .

No Jet...2 Bedroom Flat

[LegateDamarUK]

why the hell does everyone hate Be Here Now? its a quality album, Magic Pie, I Hope I Think I Know and All Around the World are bloody brilliant songs!

[mattyw1874]

Also Songs like Be Here Now and Stand By Me are some of there best live stuff.. so raw and powerful

Oasis will Live Forever

[orbandsceptre27]

I thought "Ginger" was trying to stick his tongue in Blairs ear there!

[xanderh]

Why do they never mention Song 2!! the song that made them popular in the United States, and many other countries!

[imatthws]

Cos it's a fucking documentary on Britpop!

[xanderh]

sure mate, but they always mention oasis' succes after britpop...

[inkbotkowalski]

because Song 2 is overplayed and untypical for Blur.

I will not include my personal opinion of the song in this post because it might be considered rude.

[ThinkTank85]

Song 2 is very overplayed, it wouldn't make my top 10 Blur tracks and I'm a big Blur fan.

[xanderh]

true true! but i like damons voice in song 2. but you're totally right its overplayed. i hate the war in britpop.

[pajdash08]

i remember song 2 playing as background music in the menu of fifa 98 for n64/ps...as you can imagine, i got sick of it after 3 days.

[blackridingfood]

can't be arsed about which band is better or worse. Britpop, or British music for the matter, shall remain brilliant. long live the Union Jack!

[Smurchison]

once again another bias to oasis documentry

my favourite brit pop band is actually supergrass lolz

[Smurchison]

not classics? song 2 parklife country house theres no other way for tomorrow oasis r too samey bt i still like them just prefer blur blur r better overall oasis albums only have a couple of good songs blur albums most songs are good

[freewillyplz]

Blurs songs will never go down in history as classics, where as oasis songs are already classics. kids in the 90's bought guitars and wanted to learn wonderwall,dont look back in anger,champagne supernova and live forever. not girl and fuckin boys!!

[minastirith]

um, kids in the 90's don't define a classic, it's those that come after.

and tbh, I've never listened to much Oasis, so I can't judge on that, but it was a cover of Girls and Boys that got me interested in any of this. (:

[artofs0rr0w]

Just great.A gaywad is doing an anti Oasis documentary.Why would anyone care?I like both bands.What's wrong with that.Anyway this is crap."Live forever - The Rise and Fall of Britpop" is way better

[RevStaplehurst]

err.. I don't think you were paying much attention

[czeal]

blur shit on oasis. blur moved on to another direction. oasis are still writing fuckin nursery rhymes for knuckleheads.

[shinzu12]

of course this was anti oasis the person doing the documentry is from the NME who at the time wanted blur to win and when the boys from manchester won they cried foul. lets also remember that it was steven sutherland from the NME who started the whole blur V oasis thing with damon albarn

[jamescropley]

It was a fucking great time to be in your late teens, i remember 1995/1996 being fucking amazing. The music, fashion and having euro 96 in england topped it all. There was a buzz around at that time that didnt go away til 97. Compare that with the shite that is out at the moment and the brits that has just been on shows it.

[CobainInChains]

i think blur is a brilliant band, but man oasis first album sold like 9 million and their second 15 million, so i guess oasis was by far the most important britpop band, their sells where higher, their concerts where bigger and they played in more countries around the world than any otehr british band from the 90's: im a blur fan but no one can deny oasis were larger than life in the 90's

[trucuku1982]

selling lots does not mean good music

[Welford219]

but it clearly depicts the fact that it wasnt good music, it was fucking insanely brilliant music, or the sales wouldnt have beeen that great, would they :)?

[minastirith]

well then, what's up with panic at the disco and whatnot?

they seem to sell, but they're shit.

[talktal]

haha that was awesome to hear damon declined by saying he was a communist.

[norcaljer]

They didn't even mention the high point of britpop "knebworth"

[syberian18]

Interesting pro-Blur and anti-Oasis documentary...I actually like both bands but no one can deny the fact that Oasis were far more important than Britpop itself...The band defined the soundtrack of a whole generation...Sadly, this documentary fails to show the band's real dimension in the nineties...Check out "Live forever", documentary about the nineties in Britain, it is far better in my opinion...

[omilosavljevic]

got a link ?

[talktal]

the smiths were an influential band, which still influences bands today. how many bands are influenced by oasis today? nough said.

[wrathofmarcie]

I don't like Oasis either, but you're wrong. As he says at the end of this, it's the anthemic sound that has lasted - we now have all these coldplayalikes that draw on the oasis sound but with radiohead-like lyrics & vocals.

[talktal]

coldplay dont sound a damn thing like oasis.

[Myung13]

plenty

[talktal]

name a few

[Myung13]

artic monkeys coldplay kasabian the verve ian brown stereophonics the killers bloc party the strokes radiohead idlewild jet travis, I think that' ll do for now ..

[talktal]

none of those bands sound a damn thing like oasis, knob. saying you like a band doesnt mean your sound is influenced by them. bands like my bloody valentine, joy division, the smiths have countless imiatators who tried to sound just like them. that's what being influential means

[Myung13]

actually thats called plagiarism. influence doesn't mean to sound simular, it's to have INFLUENCED, either kasabian or artic monkeys or someone said they picked up a guitar because of oasis, they may not sound alike but that is DEFINATELY an infulence.

cunt.

[noogies]

radiohead's been around longer than oasis

[RhysAneurin]

I disagree with Oasis being far more important than Britpop itself. Artistically, Oasis couldn't move on from Britpop, which is why they hung on to same kind of bloated sound for ages after the britpop era ended. I do, however, agree that they defined the sound of a generation, along with Blur.

[baresolid]

I was too young to bloody know that there was a feud between Blur and Oasis, and I just loved both of the bands and their music man. I thought that they, along with Pulp, Suede, Space, etc were the bollocks!

[BLAGASPANTS]

Same old same old... I like blur they are a very good band but Noel Gallaghe has got a back catalogue of tunes now that are up there with the all time great song writers. If you dont like oasis then fair enough but you are only lying to yourself if you dont agree with what I am saying.

[nobodycares2000]

about time

someone in the media has got their cock out of oasis' arse and realised they are shite.

[targetscooter88]

the book was fantastic as well...very good social/musical critique

[bolderr]

The Universal by Blur, awesome song!

[chrisliammm]

this tribute was so antioasis..che the closing..haha

[addamxox]

when noel said power to the people, am i the only one who found that really embaressing, some how the word tony blair and power to the people dont match

[OasisDublin]

interesting documentary. Oasis are still going strong, no matter what your man says

[btc1988]

blur are shite

[abbielovesoasis]

to rite noel pises on damons fat litle hed

[Ohscrewit]

hahaha he called them chavs

[TeenageWildlife]

this whole documentary sours my view of britpop.

[89naja]

oasis are great and fab, but BLUR are the best!

[Skeletonarse]

Amen to that!

[patto678]

blur are shite and wannabe rok stars

[figocooldude]

fuck oasis, just another beatles tribute band

[MattJamesR]

Thanks :D

[badhead]

Thanks for uploading this

[Skeletonarse]

Yeah, thanks!