its really interesting to me that mccain admitted and believed that ron paul was the most honest man in congress but when he ran in 08 he did whatever he could to oppose ron paul.
when he was on the military oversight committie with Ike Skelton, Hunter was a different person than he is here. Something changed after he called those generals the fools they were. I'm sure no expert on protocol, but I suspect that wasn't okay. He was right though.
Not that I support everything Ron Paul says... but when the man makes a valid point that can be proven, and all Douche Hunter can do is come back with 'leave in victory', and 'nobody said "good job" to the troops', and more rederick on how we're gonna 'stand up' forces over there... My only question is, how did Ron Paul get more campaign contributions from Active Duty Military Personnel than any other candidate? hmm...
Besides, with over 14 of our permanent military bases over there, and an embassy that's bigger than the Vatican, what the hell does he call leaving? We obviously have no intensions of leaving. I just don't understand how people believe what some of these people say without looking at the facts... Our foreign policy has been a total disaster for many years. If nothing else, just look at our on-and-off again support for Osama Bin Laden in the 80's, and look at Iran in 1953, etc...
All you people talking wishing Hunterw as our President... lmao? He couldn't go one debate without talking about 'strategic missile systems, blah blah blah...' We'd be in North Korea right now with General Fat-ass... Lets ask Duncan about something other than the military... I bet he'd have to GO BACK to Iraq, and Afghanistan, and how much we need to keep killing brown people and occupying their countries. One person said give them more money and regualte it making sure it goes to yada-yada....
Are you serious? Our government can't be responsible with money, and to think our politicians somehow know how the money should be spent to help people over there... I think it's retarded... Think about this too, all you people supporting these perpetual wars...
1. Even with 9-11 and 7-7... We've killed more innocent civilians over there than our troop loss and the loss of those days combined.
2. Simply saying 'good job' and TALKING about 'standing up' forces isn't working either.
What did I make up about the Constitution? Who said I hated Christians? I hate people who try to impose their religion in politics in a free society. I am smarter than you. That is all.
You're wrong. You're a bigot, you're trying to shove your Christian views on me and our countries policies. You're wrong, I love Christians Jews Muslims as long as they keep their religion to themselves and don't try to impose it on me. You're wrong. I support most all of Ron Paul's policies, I don't support Obama's policies. Dinosaurs were reptiles who never built anything, never used tools, etc. They were dumb. You're right I wasn't there just like you weren't there for Jesus.
While dimwits like you are praising a fake a god that was devised in the stone ages the scientific world is trying to find out how to travel at warp speed so we can visit other stars and galaxies. Religion is a tool of oppression of the dumbed down masses, always has been, always will be. You guys don't like rational thought though, so make sure you go to church on Sunday, give those donations, God will favor you ;)
No, the vast majority of Ron Paul supporters actively support my right to believe in what I believe in in the privacy of my own home. But I guess Christianity is right while the other 7 major religions are all wrong. Why did God fuck up when making dinosaurs? They were dumb as shit. Anyways I have no problem what religion or voodoo you believe in, but it has no place in politics, says the Constitution.
Fighting for justice and peace? Isn't that an oxymoron when we led a preemptive war against a sovereign nation. You want to know why our armed forces are so great? Our government throws more than 665 billion dollars them a year while 50 million American Citizens don't have health care and our border is being left open for illegal immigrants to cross as they please. All the while your buying power is being decreased because of our out of control borrowing and spending is inflating the dollar
And you're saying the is the "Christian" thing to do is stay and fight in Iraq? Here is some information for you. An Opinion Research Business (ORB) survey conducted August 12-19, 2007 estimated 1,220,580 violent deaths due to the Iraq War (range of 733,158 to 1,446,063.) Out of a national sample of 1,499 Iraqi adults, 22% had one or more members of their household killed due to the Iraq War (poll accuracy +/-2.4%.)
Anti-Christian Libertarianism? Why are you going to bring religion into a political discussion where it has no bearing? Have you ever heard of separation of church and state? Not everyone supports your religion, and The Hubble Telescope has showed me that religion is 6,000 year old dribble, and that the God of the never-ending cosmos of infinite matter, life, and death is something much greater than we can even fathom. Anyways, Ron Paul destroys Duncan in every single policy.
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Ron Paul is a surrender monkey who will get us all killed if we were to take his advice. Ron Paul thinks the US just needs a couple of submarines. RP is completely insane.
Duncan Hunter is out of touch with reality along with most Americans. If you look back over the last 30 years Ron Paul has been cautioning us on almost every major problem we're facing today. Had we listened to him then we wouldnt be in such a mess.
Problem is, that war, like all the other bogus wars, has helped push us to the edge of the financial cliff that we are currently on. But it's too late now. The damage is done, and the US is circling the drain.
Ron Paul is pro life personally, but say the laws should be left to the states to decide, not the federal government. He feels most everything should be left to the individual states to decide, which is in line with the constitution. So his being pro life personally doesn't matter.
actually what pushed the budget over the cliff is not the war. All the military spending is less than 4% of th GDP. It is the entitlement programs that keep on growing faster than anything.
I say privatize social security and cut taxes. Too bad 52% of the population voted in the most liberal senator as president.
You say the war was bogus, but if you get a nuke or a chemical weapon in NY or LA, you would be the first one to ask the air force to nuke the perpetrators.
Alan, the US spends more on our military than all other nations of the world combined. Check your figures.
Our occupation of Iraq, which had nothing to do with 911, does absolutely nothing to protect us from anything. It is an incredible waste of resources. Intelligence is what foils plots like you speak of. Occupations and bombings of countries, killing millions of civilians only breeds hatred against us. A kindergartener can understand the golden rule, why can't American adults?
"you would be the first one to ask the air force to nuke the perpetrators."
That is simply false. You don't know me, and I'm not that stupid.
Nuking a country, when one or a few people did something wrong, where a few pistol shots to the heads of the specific individuals would do the job, is grossly insane, as our foreign policy has been for the last 50+ years. Should you and your family be tortured or killed because of what Charles Manson did because you are all white Americans like he is?
I agree with Paul on many things, but not on Iraq.
I also respect him that he votes down all laws that are in disagreement with the constitution.
This doesn't stop me from criticizing his position on Iraq.
That being said, I think Paul would have been much much better that the current socialist president Obama, who will make a depression out of a small recession.
why would anyone think the war in iraq is a good thing?? seriously, these retards are clapping for a reason, what is it. we have spent trillions of dollars on it and i havent seen one change anywhere? why would they clap? they cant all be war profiteers. what the fuck is going on
I'm so thankful this pompous hard-on did not make it all the way. McBush is bad enough. He spouts the same delusional bullshit that got us into this clusterfuck to start with.
It is typical for men to hide behind patriotism and the idea that we must "support our troops by winning" so anyone who disagrees with the war is labeled a traitor.
Where is Duncan Hunter now? What is his voting record.How come conservatives can't unite? Ron Paul is the only true conservative running now.How will we "win" the war in Iraq and what will we gain by it?
Agreed. Duncan Hunter, where is he now? Remember how back when there were 11 candidates the media kept saying Ron Paul should drop out? LOL. He's still there, and the rest are GONE, except for McLame.
How long has it been since Duncan Hunter dropped out of the race? And Ron Paul has not quit yet. He is still winning delegates, and raising millions of dollars from the grassroots.
Even though he isn't the frontrunner, he can still be elected if the delegates vote for him at the convention. Sounds unlikely, but Dr. Paul is still electable, whereas Duncan Hunter is not.
Actually, my logic is grounded in a respect for physical evidence and reproducible irrefutable correlations. Yours relies on pointing out the alleged ramifications of these company alliances and their possible goals. My logic would be to prove that the profiting firms and reps were directly manipulating the war machine. What you are doing is attempting to establish connections that lack the condemning proof. alone are equivalent.
I agree, always seek the truth and though you may believe in something always question it. Never accept anything just because you have been told it is true.
He's not the voice of this 'people'! Something worth doing is worth doing right. Including war! To just come home would mean that all our boys that have died over there would have died in vain.
so you'd rather have them institute the NWO just to save face? just to save the "honour" of the troops? the honourable thing to do is leave the world alone, bring the troops home and live in peace with eachother! any further deaths are the ones that are in vain! to continue to die after the lies are exposed is to have them die in vain! vote Ron Paul and bring them home! save the U.S. from the federal reserve and the espionage tyranny of the CIA! wake up.
Why did America invade Iraq? Why are over 3900 American soldiers dead? What did they die for? I'm a 10 year vet of the Air Force. I know why I was over there, but I'd like for you to tell me what the INVASION was for.
well personally I think we 'invaded' them to set up a democracy there so that we would have access to the oil in the future when we will need it. so that we will have a first hand in so to speak if you can understand that. why do U think we are there chelle315?
Over 4000 men and women are dead for oil?? My nephew is a Marine, he stepped off a jeep, road in a truck to the oil fields and was told to shoot anyone that approaches and doesn't ID themselves, I know EXACTLY why over 4000 Americans are dead. ( I was an airplane mechanic, thank God!!) If Iraq wants democracy, then let them fight for it. Who's helping Americans defend themsleves against our idiot Government??!?!?
Amen. Our troops need to be here defending our own borders. It reminds me of the quote "We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it here at home." Patriot acts, undeclared wars, loss of civil liberties, and bankrupting our country is a result of the wrong focus. I'm sure most of the people who support the war honestly believe that we can spread democracy. While that's a noble cause, our best route and most successful historical route has been leading by example. Trade, negotiate, love!
In 1971 or thereabouts, two scientists named THEODOSIUS DOBZHANSKY & OLGA PAVLOVSKY built sexual isolation between two strains of fruit flies which were not formerly sexually isolated--Basically, they used the quick reproduction of fruit flies to mutate and EVOLVE one strain into two species that could no longer reproduce with one another.
New species arise in the plant kingdom through interspecies hybridization constantly. The reproductive model is also irrelevant to asexual and extinct organisms, and falling out of favor against phylogenetic methods.
Your distinctions between evolution and adaptation are semantical. Adaptations are consequential of evolution.
According to your logic, we can't prove anybody guilty of murder or theft without a witness' testimony.
Oh, the theories are imperfect. But the facts which they attempt to explain are manifest in the natural world and require immense ignorance to deny. We can puzzle over the mechanisms of evolution and gravity forever, but bodies will still attract and species will undergo accumulating heritable genomic change.
I have to ask then what is the value of paper money systems and why do people oppose the gold standard? I seriously want to know more, because I've recently been hearing comments like, "The gold standard won't do zilch to fix this economy" and "I don't like the gold standard."
However, most of these comments are of liberal sources, so I ought to be skeptical.
Ah, but the arguement for the unconstitutionality of the 16th is that is was improperly ratified, no that it goes against the original language of the constitution.
Amendments overrule the preceding statements in the document, otherwise most after 10 would be invalid.
We can philosophisize all day about the righteousness of the amendments, but what's most relevant to this discussion is whether they were legitimately ratified.
The locksmith would be rather foolish to help you without some proof of ownership. Likewise, I want physical documentation or records of "these people's" wrongdoing or a connection of events that have no falsifiable alternative explanation.
We were the occupying force thoroughout our expansion during the achievement of the manifest destiny, and our war with Spain, but also briefly occupied Canada during the revolution and war of 1812.
And that is why it's up to you to provide that proof. You're making the claim, so it's your burden. Pointing to your inquiry will only make me wary of "these guys," but not find them guilty.
Just a little aside here: Evolution (and Gravity as well) has two components as it is accepted by the scientific community. 1)As a fact. Evolution, ie, the biological change of an organism and a species over time, is an accepted fact. 2)As a theory. The theory of evolution is a working scientific inquiry into the nature of evolution.
The income tax amendment underwent a duplicitous ratification. Then again, so did the 13th, 14th, and 15th. I still favor returning to this founding plan as it is both legally airtight and fiscally reliable.
That logic makes any rule of society where sacrifice is requisite of the individual out to be aggressive. If that's how aggression must be defined, then oh well. Such is nature and its demands for evolution.
We've been in one or another since 1787, really. Against foreign powers and domestic nations, just not of the rat-at-tat kaboom kind, and then that's really a function of technology, culture, and time.
Ben Franklin warned us about Jews destroying our republic, but that doesn't make him and his fear correct.
Suspicious, but not indicting.
I'm only sad that their deaths are scarcely worth more than vague skepticism.
Where are we "cautioned" against anything in the constitution? As far as I know, and have read thrice or more, it's the planning for the structure of the federal element of the a federation republic. I remember Jackson destroying the bank... and causing a crisis because of it, unless there was something I wasn't told in collegian U.S. history (not unlikely).
Owning stock in the companies is suspicious, but not a conviction. I wonder if there are any at all that own or did own stock in them and abstain from the war effort, or are somehow able to, as crazy as it sounds, defend their position from a position other than profit.
Anyone who does actual research can find a few counterarguements too, as long as the research is legitimate and not grounded in propaganda cites.
The alleged collussion of these groups would make a good movie plot, but I'm not taking the random website sources I get from google as irrefutable evidence of cabalistic domination.
I don't much like the Fed either, but this fantasy story of Tolkien proportions isn't the reason.
Good questions, but as I said before, conejecture is inequivalent to proof. Most M/I stuff I hear about asks plenty of interesting questions but doesn't show any concrete data in favor of M/I-grounded dastardly deeds.
So yes, that makes them come crashing down into conspiracy tripe in the end.
When I ask that question, I usually get sufficient evidence to put reason into my logic guidance in the form of wasteful inefficient expenditures that an government of excessive size destroys in often otherwise worthwhile endeavors.
Qualify "aggressive taxes." Simply being punished for not obeying the law does not equate to aggression in my opinion. It's a simple ultimatum. You choose to remain in a society where the tax is written into law, and surely those who flaunt it should not go without punishment.
I am in favor of abolishing the IRS and repealing the dubious amendment protecting income taxation. That sounds like it applies to all taxation, which is inaccurate. You pay taxes for public services. You are coerced as per your social contract. Don't like it? Leave society and forgoe its benefits, including the protection of your rights.
Meh, most of the M/I spook stories I hear tend to substitute fact for conjecture, so I'll be patient before confirming these famous figure's fears.
Anyone who doesn't believe me that Ron Paul is in favor of revoking the 1964 Civil Rights Act and legalizing segregation for businessowners, please call the Ron Paul Iowa headquarters and just ask 1-888-828-PAUL
Why is Ron Paul crazy?.....because he tells the truth?....because he has the strongest record of committing to what he supports?......because he's the only candidate who actually has a real plan for our country? Ron Paul is not crazy, he's a rarity among politicians.
UGH!! How can people be so dumb and brainwashed!! War is not good people! Do they even know who we're fighting? We are just killing people who are trying to defend their land, and country! We aren't even persuing terrorists anymore! That applause for Hunter just pissed me off. The American people know what's up, and Ron Paul does too. Some of those Republican groupies are apparently too far gone though.
Hunter and not one of the GOP candidates mentions how the ethnic cleansing has impacted the violence. Its all Bush's surge doing the work, which is a load of crap.
If you want endless war and occupation of a foreign nation for the next 20 years...VOTE BUSH STYLE REPUBLICANS...
If you want smaller government, out of Iraq and fiscal sanity..VOTE RON PAUL.
Wow Hunter is so full of shit...no wonder he's soooo far back. this just proves even more that Ron Paul is the only candidate who really understands the issues.
Great success in El Salvador...Daniel Ortega (the communist) is the President and a whole region is turned against us..another area ripe for Blowback. Open your mind, read the constitution and realize that it is more revel- ant today than ever because the stakes are so much higher. Vote Ron Paul to save us All.
So what was Duncan's point, what was his proposition, citing El Salvador? So he wants us to stay there and be broke? Wow, just like every other candidate, no resolution, no solutions.... GO RON PAUL!!! you got my vote.
This idiot cited El Salvador as an example of his success?
The most dangerous place to live in the world, even more so then Iraq and this twit cites El Salvador, the chaos there has spawned one of the worlds largest, most brutal street gangs.. ever!
MS13, and this son of a bitch cites that as a success story?!
davidosborne1 -"Congress has the POWER to DECIDE to fight (which they did) not decide HOW to fight.."
I'm sorry, but your incorrect. Congress never voted to go into war with Iraq. Bush and his crew dragged us there. And I voted for Bush. I made a mistake. This time, I'm voting for Freedom.
Indeed, time to curtail executive power and turn our nation into a Republic again, rather then a pseudo Republic with a supreme leader we elect every four years.
Whatever good we did over there, the loses the pains we go through does mean good but does not mean we have the right to invade another country. Can you imagine what it means for other countries to come kick down your door, put your family on the floor, zip tie them and assume your a insurgent?
Our military is to protect the Constitution, defend against enemies foreign and domestic.
If you believe in the war in iraq shouldn't we also believe in North Korea, Iran, Syria, and other countries?
We can't keep spending BILLIONS and BILLIONS and BILLIONS and BILLIONS for what? They are so corrupt any money we actually give them gets STOLEN! WHY CAN'T THEY LEARN TO FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES? WHY ARE WE THE ONES POLICING THE ENTIRE FRIGGIN PLANET??? THE PATRIOT ACT, H.R. 1955, AR 210-35. REAL ID = TYRANNY! WHERE DOES IT STOP?
There's a reason why Ron Paul is getting more contributions from military personel than any other Republican. Ron Paul is the only candidate telling us the truth. WAKE UP!!!
McCain, Giuliani, Romney, Clinton, etc. were hawking a nuclear strike on Iran taking "no options off the table." Ron Paul was saying that Iran is no threat and we should try talking to them.
No air force, navy, or nuclear weapons. No threat to America. NO WMD. Yet the "frontrunners?" are hawking war. That's playing fast and loose with the lives of the men and women in uniform.
Ron Paul is the leader the military deserves. Right about Iraq, Iran, the economy. Right for America.
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He supports Hunter because he is in the Military!
Ron Paul doesn't know anything about our soldiers, my sisters husband went there 6 months after he was there for 9 months for 7 months and the only thing he didn't want to go is because his wife was pregnant.
Ron Paul gets more contributions from soldiers than any other candidate. Ron Paul also served in the military. I don't know much about war but somehow I find it hard to believe that our soldiers really want to be in Iraq right now. I think if most of them had the chance, they'd come home tomorrow, I had a good friend who went to Iraq, and when he came back he said the whole thing was a sham, a lie, a waste of time and a waste of innocent life.
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Ron Paul is a fundamentalist/purist on Constitution, and is technically correct sometime. HOWEVER, the real world of today trumps some of his positions, like "bring everybody home", Remember Khymer Rouge?
Khymer Rouge is a false argument. There has been a civil war in Sri Lanka, for example, for 20 years, with the Tamil Tigers (a designated terrorist group) and yet we have no presence militarily in Sri Lanka. We cannot be responsible for the whole world.
So our foreign policy isnt flawed? We never gave weapons to Saddam in the 80's to defeat the Ayatollah in Iran, then we feel threatened by Saddam and start the Persian Gulf War? We never imposed tyrannical sanctions on Iraq killing 1.5 million Iraqi civilians(UN Humanitarian Affairs)?
The sanctions were a root cause of Bin Laden's attack on the US (9/11 Commission Report).
Stop being persuaded by war propagada, read the facts.
Since this exchange Ron Paul has surged in the polls, set a record for fundraising, and has positioned himself to win the Republican nomination. Duncan Hunter has dropped out of the race.
Duncan Hunter? Are you kidding me? He's simply glossing over the situation while American soldiers are dying to bring "freedom" to Iraqis. How can we ask our soldiers not only to risk their lives protecting America, but to risk their lives protecting Iraq, and any other country that we take up as a charity case? Freeing Iraq is a job for Iraqis. We have no right and we have no responsibility to do it.
Duncan Hunter dropped out of the race because he had zero support. He took the unprincipled cheerleader demagogue position and still couldn't rally the neocons behind him. Pathetic.
Ron Paul does not condemn people because of their ideas. He is not the thought police. He condemns ideas. Ron Paul supporters are not by and large nazis and anti-semitic, there is no reason for those people to align themselves with Ron Paul because he is not racist or anti-semitic. Why don't you ask Mitt Romney to start condemning his supporter s who he doesn't agree with?
I will continue in my advocacy of a Duncan Hunter presidency in order to encourage the ascension of thoughtful policies of a conservative philosophy into implementation on a national level.
*Prepares for onslaught of intellectually meaningless "poor comment" rankings based on opinion alone*
That's great, I would never criticize you for promoting your candidate, but it just seems to me that Hunter is simply doing some cheer-leading for the war here. How is his stance on the major issues really different from the other republicans? Isn't it time we had leaders like Ron Paul who don't just say things to get elected, but actually answer questions honestly and take difficult positions because they believe in this country and they want to make a difference?
but that's meaningless rhetoris, you sound like an irrational jingoist who supports Hunter because he articulates some vaguely patriotic nonsense, which has no basis in reality. He tried to allude to progress in Iraq, most of the world has now conceded what is roughly Ron Pauls position, that is was illegal, detrimental to US and world security, and needs to stop.
Any more meaningless than the pseudo-libertarian rubbish purported by Paulsies just because he adopts his own erroneously "indestructable" platform while playing to the tune of the patriot's heart?
Jeer as you like. Paul's triumph has less basis in reality than unicorns and leprechauns.
Most of the country, and that global population whose opinion you so highly value, either couldn't care less what Paul has to say or categorize him as a loving loony.
I think most of the world does care about who gets elected, and if they knew anything about Ron Paul the likelyhood is they would support him precisely because he's non-interventionist. I fail to understand your personal antithesis to ron paul though? in what way is he a psuedo-libertarian? maybe you ought to relax because I didn't even mention him i was talking about hunter!
Foreign interests on Ron Paul is likely nothing beyond what right-wing America saw in Sarkozy. Paul is a constituionalist, but hardly a real libertarian. It's one thing to say that states have the right to rule on abortion cases, but they should limit it, and another to say they have the power, but they should protect it.
I'm not going to relax when my character is insulted and rational capacity questioned, and I know you were talking about Hunter. That's what I took issue with.
fair enough, I don't understand your Sarkozy analogy though, and if you took issue with what I said about Hunter, why didn't you address it? You simply went on Ron Paul attack. There is on perfect candidate but Paul is the closest you'll find on war, the economy and civil liberties. Slightly more important than abortion?
Sarkozy was of mild interest to right-wingers because he promised a shift in French policy. Only a f
I went on the offense against your candidate because that was all you offered to mine and my personality for association. I owed you no better. The importance of abortion wasn't the point, and no, as a matter of right-to-life, it's not. The example illustrated Paul being a pseudo-libertarian. Don't try and shift its focus.
I get my facts from looking at reality as it is; not as I wish it were. 70% of the country may desire an end to the war, yet this is not equivalent to immediate withdrawal. I love statistics that are just general enough to make a myriad of statements, don't you?
And yes, if Paul believes he can accomplish a quarter of his agenda, he is a loony. BTW, failing to pole above the margin of error in most places isn't exactly indicative of support.
How is 10.5 million dollars and counting for the 4th quarter alone? Is that indicative of support or is that just 5 internet geeks with a shitload of cash?
If Paul accomplishes a quarter of his agenda, he will have done that much more to better this country than Bush has in his 8 years, and that's why he has my support.
Um, right. You definitely said that he doesn't "pole" above the margin of error in "most places" and implied he has little support. To the contrary, he clearly has plenty of support, and it's growing. What other candidate has had 40,000 people donate such an incredible amount of money in one day? The reason you won't see that happen to Mitt Romney is because he doesn't have that kind of real support. He has the media and a wad of cash.
Yeah, and so is support for his major competetition. It's getting closer to go time and more people are paying attention. Paul's incredible donations didn't even reach half their goal, nice to omit that, and don't compare to what others have raised given more time. It's because other's supporters simply don't set a date and mass petition via the web for a concentrated donation meant to imply greater solidarity than exists.
Huckabee's support is growing, Ron Paul's support is growing. Everyone else? Maybe, but only for the reason you said - it's getting closer to go time.
I have no clue what goal the group that organized the donations set for Nov. 5, but it's kind of irrelevant. Ron Paul's campaign goals are being easily surpassed. He set the Q4 goal at 12 mil by Dec. 31, he's already received 11.5 and it's Dec. 15. Most of this is from continual donations, not a "set date" and "mass petition."
Huckabee perhaps for his growing exposure, but I doubt that Ron Paul's support augmentation deviates much in causation from that same stimulus. It's completely relevant. One can't do backflips over millions raised in one day when over the same week their rivals raised much more. I also doubt that in the end that will compare significatnly with the others by Novemenber, but I could be wrong. I've miscalculated before.
Some flights cross state and national barriers, which means the federal government has the right and obligation to establish rules concerning their operation. I agree for California-only laws regarding joy rides over SF bay.
But if Ron Paul's idea of limited federal government means abolishing useful and pragmatic agencies simply because they aren't specifically called for by the constitution, he can keep his strangling insufficiencies.
Okay, maybe you're right about aircrafts; I haven't researched the specific topic of civilian flight enough to say you're right or wrong. Do you have a source for your assertion that Paul would allow this specific problem to occur?
Well, it's not just that they're not called for by the Constitution, but that they're damaging and yes, make for too big of a federal government.
That Ron Paul would work to steadily eliminate any federal agency not specifically provided for by the constitution or "strongly implied" is a common positive tauted by his support base in my county. That would include the FDA, etc.
Being of the fed doesn't make them immediately threatening, despite what perfect information insists, and "too big" isn't much of an arguement. I want to know why "x" agency makes the government too big and not just competent. The DHS should be disbanded, but its purpose ought not be abandoned.
In short: Having 89,000 departments and divisions of the federal government = not enough money/organization for government to work efficiently. What does DHS do that we couldn't do before without it? That's the problem. What is its purpose anyway? There's no purpose to abandon.
Duncan sounds like a typical politician who says NOTHING.
MrSafetymeeting 1 year ago
its really interesting to me that mccain admitted and believed that ron paul was the most honest man in congress but when he ran in 08 he did whatever he could to oppose ron paul.
cdc482 1 year ago
Webcam of a YouTube video? Really?
LaxM 1 year ago
Duncan Hunter is a crooked SOB.
Quinduno 1 year ago 5
when he was on the military oversight committie with Ike Skelton, Hunter was a different person than he is here. Something changed after he called those generals the fools they were. I'm sure no expert on protocol, but I suspect that wasn't okay. He was right though.
crapdedoodah 2 years ago
hunter is a neocon
zzzDiamondzzz 2 years ago 2
Not that I support everything Ron Paul says... but when the man makes a valid point that can be proven, and all Douche Hunter can do is come back with 'leave in victory', and 'nobody said "good job" to the troops', and more rederick on how we're gonna 'stand up' forces over there... My only question is, how did Ron Paul get more campaign contributions from Active Duty Military Personnel than any other candidate? hmm...
bubbadankness 2 years ago
Besides, with over 14 of our permanent military bases over there, and an embassy that's bigger than the Vatican, what the hell does he call leaving? We obviously have no intensions of leaving. I just don't understand how people believe what some of these people say without looking at the facts... Our foreign policy has been a total disaster for many years. If nothing else, just look at our on-and-off again support for Osama Bin Laden in the 80's, and look at Iran in 1953, etc...
bubbadankness 2 years ago
All you people talking wishing Hunterw as our President... lmao? He couldn't go one debate without talking about 'strategic missile systems, blah blah blah...' We'd be in North Korea right now with General Fat-ass... Lets ask Duncan about something other than the military... I bet he'd have to GO BACK to Iraq, and Afghanistan, and how much we need to keep killing brown people and occupying their countries. One person said give them more money and regualte it making sure it goes to yada-yada....
bubbadankness 2 years ago
Are you serious? Our government can't be responsible with money, and to think our politicians somehow know how the money should be spent to help people over there... I think it's retarded... Think about this too, all you people supporting these perpetual wars...
1. Even with 9-11 and 7-7... We've killed more innocent civilians over there than our troop loss and the loss of those days combined.
2. Simply saying 'good job' and TALKING about 'standing up' forces isn't working either.
bubbadankness 2 years ago
give Iraq 100 billion or more regulate where it goes and that will be to fund an military of Iraqis
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
LOL,
Looks like Ron Paul's Christian boot, just made contact with vt4ps3's Atheistic butt!!!! ;)
Duncan Hunter For US President 2012!
USAsoldier1955 2 years ago
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USAsoldier1955 2 years ago
What did I make up about the Constitution? Who said I hated Christians? I hate people who try to impose their religion in politics in a free society. I am smarter than you. That is all.
vt4ps3 2 years ago
vt4ps3 = Obama Troll
vt4ps3 says he opposes something, then promotes it, then makes-up facts about it, then denies it....
Yes, he worships his baboon god Obama!
LOL, "I am smarter than you. That is all."
What a sick phony little 12 year old hypocrite!
Deispite
USAsoldier1955 2 years ago
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vt4ps3 2 years ago
LOL!!!??!**&&SHDS LOL !!!!OFLOL !!! Your posts are incoherent and make no logical argument against what I said. I win.
vt4ps3 2 years ago
Baboon god. I like that
azzh00le 2 years ago 2
Amen, azzhy! ;)
USAsoldier1955 2 years ago
You're wrong. You're a bigot, you're trying to shove your Christian views on me and our countries policies. You're wrong, I love Christians Jews Muslims as long as they keep their religion to themselves and don't try to impose it on me. You're wrong. I support most all of Ron Paul's policies, I don't support Obama's policies. Dinosaurs were reptiles who never built anything, never used tools, etc. They were dumb. You're right I wasn't there just like you weren't there for Jesus.
vt4ps3 2 years ago
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vt4ps3 2 years ago
While dimwits like you are praising a fake a god that was devised in the stone ages the scientific world is trying to find out how to travel at warp speed so we can visit other stars and galaxies. Religion is a tool of oppression of the dumbed down masses, always has been, always will be. You guys don't like rational thought though, so make sure you go to church on Sunday, give those donations, God will favor you ;)
vt4ps3 2 years ago
No, the vast majority of Ron Paul supporters actively support my right to believe in what I believe in in the privacy of my own home. But I guess Christianity is right while the other 7 major religions are all wrong. Why did God fuck up when making dinosaurs? They were dumb as shit. Anyways I have no problem what religion or voodoo you believe in, but it has no place in politics, says the Constitution.
vt4ps3 2 years ago
Fighting for justice and peace? Isn't that an oxymoron when we led a preemptive war against a sovereign nation. You want to know why our armed forces are so great? Our government throws more than 665 billion dollars them a year while 50 million American Citizens don't have health care and our border is being left open for illegal immigrants to cross as they please. All the while your buying power is being decreased because of our out of control borrowing and spending is inflating the dollar
vt4ps3 2 years ago
vt4ps3 = Obama Troll
Nobama!
Duncan Hunter For US President 2012!
USAsoldier1955 2 years ago
I'm not even an Obama supporter you fuck. I support Ron Paul, go support your Neo-Con candidate.
vt4ps3 2 years ago
And you're saying the is the "Christian" thing to do is stay and fight in Iraq? Here is some information for you. An Opinion Research Business (ORB) survey conducted August 12-19, 2007 estimated 1,220,580 violent deaths due to the Iraq War (range of 733,158 to 1,446,063.) Out of a national sample of 1,499 Iraqi adults, 22% had one or more members of their household killed due to the Iraq War (poll accuracy +/-2.4%.)
vt4ps3 2 years ago
Anti-Christian Libertarianism? Why are you going to bring religion into a political discussion where it has no bearing? Have you ever heard of separation of church and state? Not everyone supports your religion, and The Hubble Telescope has showed me that religion is 6,000 year old dribble, and that the God of the never-ending cosmos of infinite matter, life, and death is something much greater than we can even fathom. Anyways, Ron Paul destroys Duncan in every single policy.
vt4ps3 2 years ago
Duncan said nothing as far as I'm concerned
kraven0000 2 years ago
dunkin donuts is an asshole
mnmn59 2 years ago
Duncan Hunter is a true American patriot and its a damn shame he wasn't given the time or day by the media!
jdkrup 2 years ago
poor ron paul he's trying to talk but people won't stop cheering because he's so awesomeXD
Nilaikx 2 years ago
Neo-Con Duncan Hunter needs a wake up call.
enhilz 2 years ago
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Ron Paul is a surrender monkey who will get us all killed if we were to take his advice. Ron Paul thinks the US just needs a couple of submarines. RP is completely insane.
cajunstrat 2 years ago
Not true. He just wants The U.S. to stop policing other nations, Mind our own business and worry about our own country!
metropolisimages 2 years ago
Were you Drunk when you recorded this? Jesus, way to screw up good content.
prince2873 3 years ago
Duncan Hunter is out of touch with reality along with most Americans. If you look back over the last 30 years Ron Paul has been cautioning us on almost every major problem we're facing today. Had we listened to him then we wouldnt be in such a mess.
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hunter 1 Paul 0
AlanCom1 3 years ago
Hunter couldn't hunt his own dick. Ron Paul 100,000 Huntress 0! LOL
danbowski40 3 years ago 3
"hunter 1 Paul 0"
You must be either joking, or daft. Ron Paul owned all of those clown in every debate. Ron Paul - TRUTH, Neocon clowns - BULLSHIT
freedomman121 3 years ago
I liked Giuliani the most.
I would normally, support Paul, because I am a libertarian too; just that we have a different interpretation on that.
What I dislike about Paul:
1) He wanted to withdraw troops from Iraq immediately.
2) He is pro life.
Other than that, I agree with him 100%.
AlanCom1 3 years ago
Problem is, that war, like all the other bogus wars, has helped push us to the edge of the financial cliff that we are currently on. But it's too late now. The damage is done, and the US is circling the drain.
Ron Paul is pro life personally, but say the laws should be left to the states to decide, not the federal government. He feels most everything should be left to the individual states to decide, which is in line with the constitution. So his being pro life personally doesn't matter.
freedomman121 3 years ago
Freedomman121,
actually what pushed the budget over the cliff is not the war. All the military spending is less than 4% of th GDP. It is the entitlement programs that keep on growing faster than anything.
I say privatize social security and cut taxes. Too bad 52% of the population voted in the most liberal senator as president.
You say the war was bogus, but if you get a nuke or a chemical weapon in NY or LA, you would be the first one to ask the air force to nuke the perpetrators.
AlanCom1 3 years ago
Alan, the US spends more on our military than all other nations of the world combined. Check your figures.
Our occupation of Iraq, which had nothing to do with 911, does absolutely nothing to protect us from anything. It is an incredible waste of resources. Intelligence is what foils plots like you speak of. Occupations and bombings of countries, killing millions of civilians only breeds hatred against us. A kindergartener can understand the golden rule, why can't American adults?
freedomman121 3 years ago
"you would be the first one to ask the air force to nuke the perpetrators."
That is simply false. You don't know me, and I'm not that stupid.
Nuking a country, when one or a few people did something wrong, where a few pistol shots to the heads of the specific individuals would do the job, is grossly insane, as our foreign policy has been for the last 50+ years. Should you and your family be tortured or killed because of what Charles Manson did because you are all white Americans like he is?
freedomman121 3 years ago
Ron Paul knows what he's talkin' about. Why not have a man of consistent principle integrity for president?
PVJared 2 years ago 2
@PV Jared
I agree with Paul on many things, but not on Iraq.
I also respect him that he votes down all laws that are in disagreement with the constitution.
This doesn't stop me from criticizing his position on Iraq.
That being said, I think Paul would have been much much better that the current socialist president Obama, who will make a depression out of a small recession.
AlanCom1 2 years ago
AMEN!
metropolisimages 2 years ago
Ron Paul has the U.S. Constitution on his side.
The rest have'nt even read it.
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blessedelf 3 years ago
what site did u get this from
branyizoltan 3 years ago
Most of them are... there called 18yrolds!
supersoulrider 3 years ago
"War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it" - these IDIOTS who clap for war should be sent right there into it.
eclipsxe2000 3 years ago 15
why would anyone think the war in iraq is a good thing?? seriously, these retards are clapping for a reason, what is it. we have spent trillions of dollars on it and i havent seen one change anywhere? why would they clap? they cant all be war profiteers. what the fuck is going on
fupasack2 3 years ago 5
I'm so thankful this pompous hard-on did not make it all the way. McBush is bad enough. He spouts the same delusional bullshit that got us into this clusterfuck to start with.
Disciple1000 3 years ago 5
DUNCAN WHO?
jbs4life1 3 years ago
It is typical for men to hide behind patriotism and the idea that we must "support our troops by winning" so anyone who disagrees with the war is labeled a traitor.
jesuslover037 3 years ago
Where is Duncan Hunter now? What is his voting record.How come conservatives can't unite? Ron Paul is the only true conservative running now.How will we "win" the war in Iraq and what will we gain by it?
AB12AC321 3 years ago
Agreed. Duncan Hunter, where is he now? Remember how back when there were 11 candidates the media kept saying Ron Paul should drop out? LOL. He's still there, and the rest are GONE, except for McLame.
freedomman121 3 years ago
Well, there are some improvements, but there is a very long way to go and I don't think the US would be able to last that long, nor the budget.
soccom8341576 3 years ago
Ron Paul just sh1t on Hunter!
luckylts 3 years ago
Dr. Paul is the bright light that makes the cockroaches flee. Restore and uphold the Constitution!!! Anything less is treason.
zeebopskibop 3 years ago 9
I just became a delegate last week....LOL, RON PAUL 2008, BELIEVE!!
chelle315 3 years ago 2
Hope you're voting for Paul...
MRoane41 3 years ago 2
Of course I am, I'll be writing him in.
chelle315 3 years ago 2
I'm writing in Dr. Ron Paul as well!
armygwarguy 3 years ago
Wait for me I'm writing him in too!
tcon12345 3 years ago 2
That is a mistake, vote Bob Barr, he's on the ballot and has very similar positions
DJFG85 3 years ago
none of them are gonna win so u might as well vote for which one u really want to.
Epimpin101 3 years ago
R U retarded? You should vote for someone on the damn ballot
DJFG85 3 years ago
How long has it been since Duncan Hunter dropped out of the race? And Ron Paul has not quit yet. He is still winning delegates, and raising millions of dollars from the grassroots.
Even though he isn't the frontrunner, he can still be elected if the delegates vote for him at the convention. Sounds unlikely, but Dr. Paul is still electable, whereas Duncan Hunter is not.
RpKingman 3 years ago 3
Brilliant!!!!!!!!!
"If we just marched in, we should just march home." - Ron Paul
pirskwayrd 4 years ago 5
Actually, my logic is grounded in a respect for physical evidence and reproducible irrefutable correlations. Yours relies on pointing out the alleged ramifications of these company alliances and their possible goals. My logic would be to prove that the profiting firms and reps were directly manipulating the war machine. What you are doing is attempting to establish connections that lack the condemning proof. alone are equivalent.
FurryAR 4 years ago
So I know that we don't need testimony, just untampered objective evidence. You seem to think that suspicious behavior and plausible motives
FurryAR 4 years ago
That's the perfect attitude for science.
FurryAR 4 years ago
I agree, always seek the truth and though you may believe in something always question it. Never accept anything just because you have been told it is true.
TasteOfGreen 4 years ago
Ron Paul is the voice of the people! I can't wait to see him in the White House. 8)
Ron Paul in 2008
informationoverlord 4 years ago 7
He's not the voice of this 'people'! Something worth doing is worth doing right. Including war! To just come home would mean that all our boys that have died over there would have died in vain.
norealname0 4 years ago
so you'd rather have them institute the NWO just to save face? just to save the "honour" of the troops? the honourable thing to do is leave the world alone, bring the troops home and live in peace with eachother! any further deaths are the ones that are in vain! to continue to die after the lies are exposed is to have them die in vain! vote Ron Paul and bring them home! save the U.S. from the federal reserve and the espionage tyranny of the CIA! wake up.
nirvikalpajnana 4 years ago 3
Why did America invade Iraq? Why are over 3900 American soldiers dead? What did they die for? I'm a 10 year vet of the Air Force. I know why I was over there, but I'd like for you to tell me what the INVASION was for.
chelle315 4 years ago 5
well personally I think we 'invaded' them to set up a democracy there so that we would have access to the oil in the future when we will need it. so that we will have a first hand in so to speak if you can understand that. why do U think we are there chelle315?
norealname0 3 years ago
Over 4000 men and women are dead for oil?? My nephew is a Marine, he stepped off a jeep, road in a truck to the oil fields and was told to shoot anyone that approaches and doesn't ID themselves, I know EXACTLY why over 4000 Americans are dead. ( I was an airplane mechanic, thank God!!) If Iraq wants democracy, then let them fight for it. Who's helping Americans defend themsleves against our idiot Government??!?!?
chelle315 3 years ago
Amen. Our troops need to be here defending our own borders. It reminds me of the quote "We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it here at home." Patriot acts, undeclared wars, loss of civil liberties, and bankrupting our country is a result of the wrong focus. I'm sure most of the people who support the war honestly believe that we can spread democracy. While that's a noble cause, our best route and most successful historical route has been leading by example. Trade, negotiate, love!
jesuslover037 3 years ago 3
What happened in Vietnam?
AB12AC321 3 years ago
In 1971 or thereabouts, two scientists named THEODOSIUS DOBZHANSKY & OLGA PAVLOVSKY built sexual isolation between two strains of fruit flies which were not formerly sexually isolated--Basically, they used the quick reproduction of fruit flies to mutate and EVOLVE one strain into two species that could no longer reproduce with one another.
Cryosaur 4 years ago
New species arise in the plant kingdom through interspecies hybridization constantly. The reproductive model is also irrelevant to asexual and extinct organisms, and falling out of favor against phylogenetic methods.
Your distinctions between evolution and adaptation are semantical. Adaptations are consequential of evolution.
According to your logic, we can't prove anybody guilty of murder or theft without a witness' testimony.
FurryAR 4 years ago
Oh, the theories are imperfect. But the facts which they attempt to explain are manifest in the natural world and require immense ignorance to deny. We can puzzle over the mechanisms of evolution and gravity forever, but bodies will still attract and species will undergo accumulating heritable genomic change.
FurryAR 4 years ago
I have to ask then what is the value of paper money systems and why do people oppose the gold standard? I seriously want to know more, because I've recently been hearing comments like, "The gold standard won't do zilch to fix this economy" and "I don't like the gold standard."
However, most of these comments are of liberal sources, so I ought to be skeptical.
FurryAR 4 years ago
"The founders" is misleading because some of them were outspoken proponents of federally supported banking. See Hamiltonians for example.
Can it be said, then, that there could be constituional responsibility tied to a federal bank?
That's a real question, because I personally believe the idea that the fed saved us from the Depression is a steaming load.
FurryAR 4 years ago
Ah, but the arguement for the unconstitutionality of the 16th is that is was improperly ratified, no that it goes against the original language of the constitution.
Amendments overrule the preceding statements in the document, otherwise most after 10 would be invalid.
We can philosophisize all day about the righteousness of the amendments, but what's most relevant to this discussion is whether they were legitimately ratified.
FurryAR 4 years ago
The locksmith would be rather foolish to help you without some proof of ownership. Likewise, I want physical documentation or records of "these people's" wrongdoing or a connection of events that have no falsifiable alternative explanation.
FurryAR 4 years ago
We were the occupying force thoroughout our expansion during the achievement of the manifest destiny, and our war with Spain, but also briefly occupied Canada during the revolution and war of 1812.
And that is why it's up to you to provide that proof. You're making the claim, so it's your burden. Pointing to your inquiry will only make me wary of "these guys," but not find them guilty.
FurryAR 4 years ago
Just a little aside here: Evolution (and Gravity as well) has two components as it is accepted by the scientific community. 1)As a fact. Evolution, ie, the biological change of an organism and a species over time, is an accepted fact. 2)As a theory. The theory of evolution is a working scientific inquiry into the nature of evolution.
Cryosaur 4 years ago
The income tax amendment underwent a duplicitous ratification. Then again, so did the 13th, 14th, and 15th. I still favor returning to this founding plan as it is both legally airtight and fiscally reliable.
That logic makes any rule of society where sacrifice is requisite of the individual out to be aggressive. If that's how aggression must be defined, then oh well. Such is nature and its demands for evolution.
FurryAR 4 years ago
We've been in one or another since 1787, really. Against foreign powers and domestic nations, just not of the rat-at-tat kaboom kind, and then that's really a function of technology, culture, and time.
Ben Franklin warned us about Jews destroying our republic, but that doesn't make him and his fear correct.
Suspicious, but not indicting.
I'm only sad that their deaths are scarcely worth more than vague skepticism.
FurryAR 4 years ago
Where are we "cautioned" against anything in the constitution? As far as I know, and have read thrice or more, it's the planning for the structure of the federal element of the a federation republic. I remember Jackson destroying the bank... and causing a crisis because of it, unless there was something I wasn't told in collegian U.S. history (not unlikely).
FurryAR 4 years ago
Owning stock in the companies is suspicious, but not a conviction. I wonder if there are any at all that own or did own stock in them and abstain from the war effort, or are somehow able to, as crazy as it sounds, defend their position from a position other than profit.
Anyone who does actual research can find a few counterarguements too, as long as the research is legitimate and not grounded in propaganda cites.
I'll hate when I see hard evidence.
FurryAR 4 years ago
The alleged collussion of these groups would make a good movie plot, but I'm not taking the random website sources I get from google as irrefutable evidence of cabalistic domination.
I don't much like the Fed either, but this fantasy story of Tolkien proportions isn't the reason.
FurryAR 4 years ago
Good questions, but as I said before, conejecture is inequivalent to proof. Most M/I stuff I hear about asks plenty of interesting questions but doesn't show any concrete data in favor of M/I-grounded dastardly deeds.
So yes, that makes them come crashing down into conspiracy tripe in the end.
FurryAR 4 years ago
When I ask that question, I usually get sufficient evidence to put reason into my logic guidance in the form of wasteful inefficient expenditures that an government of excessive size destroys in often otherwise worthwhile endeavors.
FurryAR 4 years ago
Qualify "aggressive taxes." Simply being punished for not obeying the law does not equate to aggression in my opinion. It's a simple ultimatum. You choose to remain in a society where the tax is written into law, and surely those who flaunt it should not go without punishment.
FurryAR 4 years ago
I am in favor of abolishing the IRS and repealing the dubious amendment protecting income taxation. That sounds like it applies to all taxation, which is inaccurate. You pay taxes for public services. You are coerced as per your social contract. Don't like it? Leave society and forgoe its benefits, including the protection of your rights.
Meh, most of the M/I spook stories I hear tend to substitute fact for conjecture, so I'll be patient before confirming these famous figure's fears.
FurryAR 4 years ago
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motavis 4 years ago
Mark my words. Ron Paul IS going to be President.
TremblingTenant 4 years ago
Ron Paul is the man!
ItzMeRon 4 years ago
All hes talking about is wars that didn't accomplish anything.
pointyourtoes27 4 years ago
Duncan is so full of it.
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philipmontag 4 years ago
I'd like to ask Duncan Hunter one question! How many of your kids or grandkids are fighting in Iraq if you support the war so much?
These neocons love to go to war as long as it's not their families going...
dj1067 4 years ago
So true!!!!
pointyourtoes27 4 years ago
dj1067, i support ron paul so i hate to discredit your assertion but duncan hunter has at least one of his kids in the war,
gatsu6969 4 years ago
Ron Paul is crazy and so are a lot of his supporters ... Ron and John McCain are the only 2 republicans i could never vote for
libsarestupid 4 years ago
You are a clear expert on the subject. I should most defiantly yield to your obvious insight. Wait... your an ignorant dumbass. My mistake.
TurboLoveTrain 4 years ago
Why is Ron Paul crazy?.....because he tells the truth?....because he has the strongest record of committing to what he supports?......because he's the only candidate who actually has a real plan for our country? Ron Paul is not crazy, he's a rarity among politicians.
nithlived 4 years ago
What do they have to say when they hear about Ron Paul getting the most support from the troops? Give it up already! Ron Paul is right!
mrhobs 4 years ago
UGH!! How can people be so dumb and brainwashed!! War is not good people! Do they even know who we're fighting? We are just killing people who are trying to defend their land, and country! We aren't even persuing terrorists anymore! That applause for Hunter just pissed me off. The American people know what's up, and Ron Paul does too. Some of those Republican groupies are apparently too far gone though.
mrhobs 4 years ago
Hunter and not one of the GOP candidates mentions how the ethnic cleansing has impacted the violence. Its all Bush's surge doing the work, which is a load of crap.
If you want endless war and occupation of a foreign nation for the next 20 years...VOTE BUSH STYLE REPUBLICANS...
If you want smaller government, out of Iraq and fiscal sanity..VOTE RON PAUL.
puttsaround2 4 years ago
Wow Hunter is so full of shit...no wonder he's soooo far back. this just proves even more that Ron Paul is the only candidate who really understands the issues.
RP 08
HG2013 4 years ago 2
yep! You got that right!
softearth 4 years ago
Great success in El Salvador...Daniel Ortega (the communist) is the President and a whole region is turned against us..another area ripe for Blowback. Open your mind, read the constitution and realize that it is more revel- ant today than ever because the stakes are so much higher. Vote Ron Paul to save us All.
HDavidg40503 4 years ago
So what was Duncan's point, what was his proposition, citing El Salvador? So he wants us to stay there and be broke? Wow, just like every other candidate, no resolution, no solutions.... GO RON PAUL!!! you got my vote.
mrepooh 4 years ago
This idiot cited El Salvador as an example of his success?
The most dangerous place to live in the world, even more so then Iraq and this twit cites El Salvador, the chaos there has spawned one of the worlds largest, most brutal street gangs.. ever!
MS13, and this son of a bitch cites that as a success story?!
governator86 4 years ago 2
davidosborne1 -"Congress has the POWER to DECIDE to fight (which they did) not decide HOW to fight.."
I'm sorry, but your incorrect. Congress never voted to go into war with Iraq. Bush and his crew dragged us there. And I voted for Bush. I made a mistake. This time, I'm voting for Freedom.
Ron Paul 2008
Sepero1 4 years ago 2
Indeed, time to curtail executive power and turn our nation into a Republic again, rather then a pseudo Republic with a supreme leader we elect every four years.
governator86 4 years ago
Whatever good we did over there, the loses the pains we go through does mean good but does not mean we have the right to invade another country. Can you imagine what it means for other countries to come kick down your door, put your family on the floor, zip tie them and assume your a insurgent?
Our military is to protect the Constitution, defend against enemies foreign and domestic.
If you believe in the war in iraq shouldn't we also believe in North Korea, Iran, Syria, and other countries?
kimpop805 4 years ago
Not mad at you. I do greatly appriciate your service.
Just really frustrated with the direction our country is headed. Its not your fault, and the democrats aren't the answer.
txnwinterbride 4 years ago
eh...Not impressed. Duncan Hunter... is ok.
We can't keep spending BILLIONS and BILLIONS and BILLIONS and BILLIONS for what? They are so corrupt any money we actually give them gets STOLEN! WHY CAN'T THEY LEARN TO FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES? WHY ARE WE THE ONES POLICING THE ENTIRE FRIGGIN PLANET??? THE PATRIOT ACT, H.R. 1955, AR 210-35. REAL ID = TYRANNY! WHERE DOES IT STOP?
Ron Paul.
txnwinterbride 4 years ago
Why is this a "Must See" ???
Felt pretty incompleted to me.
ADAMundo 4 years ago
Why is it so hard for us to say we screwed the pooch in Iraq?
SmileOnADog 4 years ago
There's a reason why Ron Paul is getting more contributions from military personel than any other Republican. Ron Paul is the only candidate telling us the truth. WAKE UP!!!
stef1975 4 years ago 5
McCain, Giuliani, Romney, Clinton, etc. were hawking a nuclear strike on Iran taking "no options off the table." Ron Paul was saying that Iran is no threat and we should try talking to them.
No air force, navy, or nuclear weapons. No threat to America. NO WMD. Yet the "frontrunners?" are hawking war. That's playing fast and loose with the lives of the men and women in uniform.
Ron Paul is the leader the military deserves. Right about Iraq, Iran, the economy. Right for America.
imbabci2 4 years ago 3
whoever made this video needs to go back to school and take poitical sciences.
brent562 4 years ago
who do you support?
sheerterror77 4 years ago
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He supports Hunter because he is in the Military!
Ron Paul doesn't know anything about our soldiers, my sisters husband went there 6 months after he was there for 9 months for 7 months and the only thing he didn't want to go is because his wife was pregnant.
GodGunsAndGlory 4 years ago
Ron Paul gets more contributions from soldiers than any other candidate. Ron Paul also served in the military. I don't know much about war but somehow I find it hard to believe that our soldiers really want to be in Iraq right now. I think if most of them had the chance, they'd come home tomorrow, I had a good friend who went to Iraq, and when he came back he said the whole thing was a sham, a lie, a waste of time and a waste of innocent life.
n8glenn 4 years ago 3
thank you for saying what i was going to say
24Charles01 4 years ago
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Ron Paul is a fundamentalist/purist on Constitution, and is technically correct sometime. HOWEVER, the real world of today trumps some of his positions, like "bring everybody home", Remember Khymer Rouge?
Throwing in impeach Cheney & pitch the CIA
is simply silly.
RicoPelado 4 years ago
Khymer Rouge is a false argument. There has been a civil war in Sri Lanka, for example, for 20 years, with the Tamil Tigers (a designated terrorist group) and yet we have no presence militarily in Sri Lanka. We cannot be responsible for the whole world.
ItsFazsha 4 years ago 3
So our foreign policy isnt flawed? We never gave weapons to Saddam in the 80's to defeat the Ayatollah in Iran, then we feel threatened by Saddam and start the Persian Gulf War? We never imposed tyrannical sanctions on Iraq killing 1.5 million Iraqi civilians(UN Humanitarian Affairs)?
The sanctions were a root cause of Bin Laden's attack on the US (9/11 Commission Report).
Stop being persuaded by war propagada, read the facts.
seane22 4 years ago 2
lol,
thers no democrat candidate talking about getting out of iraq,
this idiot must think ppl dont watch the debates
hthglllkhgjg 4 years ago 3
Duncan Hunter is another neo-con warmonger who daily spits on what little is left of our Constitution. Go Ron Paul!
RedShirtArmy 4 years ago 3
Since this exchange Ron Paul has surged in the polls, set a record for fundraising, and has positioned himself to win the Republican nomination. Duncan Hunter has dropped out of the race.
rpforliberty2008 4 years ago 3
Ron Paul kicked Duncan Hunters ass.
rpforliberty2008 4 years ago
FAUX news is blocking Ron Paul from the Dec debates. Act NOW!
MK1116 4 years ago
Duncan Hunter? Are you kidding me? He's simply glossing over the situation while American soldiers are dying to bring "freedom" to Iraqis. How can we ask our soldiers not only to risk their lives protecting America, but to risk their lives protecting Iraq, and any other country that we take up as a charity case? Freeing Iraq is a job for Iraqis. We have no right and we have no responsibility to do it.
n8glenn 4 years ago
word...
hempster 4 years ago
Duncan Hunter dropped out of the race because he had zero support. He took the unprincipled cheerleader demagogue position and still couldn't rally the neocons behind him. Pathetic.
rpforliberty2008 4 years ago
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Call your local news network and radio station and ask why Ron Paul does not distance himself from his anti-Semitic and new-Nazi supporters.
Write newspapers asking for clarification!
Do it.
BattleofTours732 4 years ago
Ron Paul does not condemn people because of their ideas. He is not the thought police. He condemns ideas. Ron Paul supporters are not by and large nazis and anti-semitic, there is no reason for those people to align themselves with Ron Paul because he is not racist or anti-semitic. Why don't you ask Mitt Romney to start condemning his supporter s who he doesn't agree with?
n8glenn 4 years ago
muhahahahaha the nazis are gonna get you,
the islamo-fascists and the nazis are planning to kill you
hahahahaha
dumbass
hthglllkhgjg 4 years ago
The New World Order is sharpening it's knives! The New World Order and their associates in the CRA are planning to make slaves of us all!
hahahahaha
dumbass.
FurryAR 4 years ago
I will continue in my advocacy of a Duncan Hunter presidency in order to encourage the ascension of thoughtful policies of a conservative philosophy into implementation on a national level.
*Prepares for onslaught of intellectually meaningless "poor comment" rankings based on opinion alone*
FurryAR 4 years ago
That's great, I would never criticize you for promoting your candidate, but it just seems to me that Hunter is simply doing some cheer-leading for the war here. How is his stance on the major issues really different from the other republicans? Isn't it time we had leaders like Ron Paul who don't just say things to get elected, but actually answer questions honestly and take difficult positions because they believe in this country and they want to make a difference?
n8glenn 4 years ago
but that's meaningless rhetoris, you sound like an irrational jingoist who supports Hunter because he articulates some vaguely patriotic nonsense, which has no basis in reality. He tried to allude to progress in Iraq, most of the world has now conceded what is roughly Ron Pauls position, that is was illegal, detrimental to US and world security, and needs to stop.
salim201 4 years ago
Any more meaningless than the pseudo-libertarian rubbish purported by Paulsies just because he adopts his own erroneously "indestructable" platform while playing to the tune of the patriot's heart?
Jeer as you like. Paul's triumph has less basis in reality than unicorns and leprechauns.
Most of the country, and that global population whose opinion you so highly value, either couldn't care less what Paul has to say or categorize him as a loving loony.
FurryAR 4 years ago
I think most of the world does care about who gets elected, and if they knew anything about Ron Paul the likelyhood is they would support him precisely because he's non-interventionist. I fail to understand your personal antithesis to ron paul though? in what way is he a psuedo-libertarian? maybe you ought to relax because I didn't even mention him i was talking about hunter!
salim201 4 years ago
Foreign interests on Ron Paul is likely nothing beyond what right-wing America saw in Sarkozy. Paul is a constituionalist, but hardly a real libertarian. It's one thing to say that states have the right to rule on abortion cases, but they should limit it, and another to say they have the power, but they should protect it.
I'm not going to relax when my character is insulted and rational capacity questioned, and I know you were talking about Hunter. That's what I took issue with.
FurryAR 4 years ago
fair enough, I don't understand your Sarkozy analogy though, and if you took issue with what I said about Hunter, why didn't you address it? You simply went on Ron Paul attack. There is on perfect candidate but Paul is the closest you'll find on war, the economy and civil liberties. Slightly more important than abortion?
salim201 4 years ago
Sarkozy was of mild interest to right-wingers because he promised a shift in French policy. Only a f
I went on the offense against your candidate because that was all you offered to mine and my personality for association. I owed you no better. The importance of abortion wasn't the point, and no, as a matter of right-to-life, it's not. The example illustrated Paul being a pseudo-libertarian. Don't try and shift its focus.
FurryAR 4 years ago
70% of the country wants the Iraq war to end! So Ron paul does echo their thoughts. Hence, Ron Paul is not a loony. Where do you get your facts?
LORDOFWARS8 4 years ago
I get my facts from looking at reality as it is; not as I wish it were. 70% of the country may desire an end to the war, yet this is not equivalent to immediate withdrawal. I love statistics that are just general enough to make a myriad of statements, don't you?
And yes, if Paul believes he can accomplish a quarter of his agenda, he is a loony. BTW, failing to pole above the margin of error in most places isn't exactly indicative of support.
FurryAR 4 years ago
How is 10.5 million dollars and counting for the 4th quarter alone? Is that indicative of support or is that just 5 internet geeks with a shitload of cash?
If Paul accomplishes a quarter of his agenda, he will have done that much more to better this country than Bush has in his 8 years, and that's why he has my support.
psycobetabuckdown 4 years ago
How is it? Not much when compared to what his noteworthy opponents in both parties have amassed cumulatively in funds and supporters.
So, proportionately, 5+/-, yeah.
Yes. I cannot wait until anybody can fly any aircraft they desire at anytime without regulation by that evil, imperious government.
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FurryAR 4 years ago
Um, right. You definitely said that he doesn't "pole" above the margin of error in "most places" and implied he has little support. To the contrary, he clearly has plenty of support, and it's growing. What other candidate has had 40,000 people donate such an incredible amount of money in one day? The reason you won't see that happen to Mitt Romney is because he doesn't have that kind of real support. He has the media and a wad of cash.
psycobetabuckdown 4 years ago
Yeah, and so is support for his major competetition. It's getting closer to go time and more people are paying attention. Paul's incredible donations didn't even reach half their goal, nice to omit that, and don't compare to what others have raised given more time. It's because other's supporters simply don't set a date and mass petition via the web for a concentrated donation meant to imply greater solidarity than exists.
FurryAR 4 years ago
Huckabee's support is growing, Ron Paul's support is growing. Everyone else? Maybe, but only for the reason you said - it's getting closer to go time.
I have no clue what goal the group that organized the donations set for Nov. 5, but it's kind of irrelevant. Ron Paul's campaign goals are being easily surpassed. He set the Q4 goal at 12 mil by Dec. 31, he's already received 11.5 and it's Dec. 15. Most of this is from continual donations, not a "set date" and "mass petition."
psycobetabuckdown 4 years ago
Huckabee perhaps for his growing exposure, but I doubt that Ron Paul's support augmentation deviates much in causation from that same stimulus. It's completely relevant. One can't do backflips over millions raised in one day when over the same week their rivals raised much more. I also doubt that in the end that will compare significatnly with the others by Novemenber, but I could be wrong. I've miscalculated before.
FurryAR 4 years ago
Ron Paul is for limited federal government, that's it. States would still be able to regulate civilians and their flying hobbies.
psycobetabuckdown 4 years ago
Some flights cross state and national barriers, which means the federal government has the right and obligation to establish rules concerning their operation. I agree for California-only laws regarding joy rides over SF bay.
But if Ron Paul's idea of limited federal government means abolishing useful and pragmatic agencies simply because they aren't specifically called for by the constitution, he can keep his strangling insufficiencies.
FurryAR 4 years ago
Okay, maybe you're right about aircrafts; I haven't researched the specific topic of civilian flight enough to say you're right or wrong. Do you have a source for your assertion that Paul would allow this specific problem to occur?
Well, it's not just that they're not called for by the Constitution, but that they're damaging and yes, make for too big of a federal government.
We need the department of homeland security?
psycobetabuckdown 4 years ago
That Ron Paul would work to steadily eliminate any federal agency not specifically provided for by the constitution or "strongly implied" is a common positive tauted by his support base in my county. That would include the FDA, etc.
FurryAR 4 years ago
Being of the fed doesn't make them immediately threatening, despite what perfect information insists, and "too big" isn't much of an arguement. I want to know why "x" agency makes the government too big and not just competent. The DHS should be disbanded, but its purpose ought not be abandoned.
FurryAR 4 years ago
In short: Having 89,000 departments and divisions of the federal government = not enough money/organization for government to work efficiently. What does DHS do that we couldn't do before without it? That's the problem. What is its purpose anyway? There's no purpose to abandon.
psycobetabuckdown 4 years ago