Steely Dan is so intriguing to me. When I was young I did't like them at all. My hears weren't mature enough, and I've never been a jazz head so some of their maj7 chord sequences would cheese me out a bit. Now that I'm older and understand what they're doing, I can't get enough. I've transcribe 13 of their best songs on piano, just to see how they work. I've become completely obsessed with their arrangements, the chord inversions they use, so this video is very helpful. Thanks
@Jitpring I'd agree. But you have to admit, it is very nice to see musicians that did take the time to put some real musical thought process into what most people considered "pop" music. It's fun to see him describing his thought process in the building of the chord structures and changes.
nah, this is genius... i truly do understand it as a trained musician, perhaps better than you two do...but until you or I or anyone else comes up with something at least as impactful or popular for that matter...we are all just the masses and people like Feagan etc. are the genius... and trust me, genius is not a gift its something that is worked for... despite what you may have heard about Mozarts genius...he worked his ass off for his results too... we are all human
how can you possibly say you as a 'trained musician' understand this better than anyone else does?the only thing you know about these people is that they have accounts on youtube and like the music of steely dan,so you can spare us your pontificating bullshit.they have proven in their comments that they are more musically adept than you are.they are commenting on what they see, and making reasonable argument, not making absurd,contrived statements about the question of genius.
Friends, this is not genius. It's competence, and competence is quite enough.
Today's overuse of the word "genius" is very annoying. Genius is in fact very, very , very rare. When speaking of actual geniuses, that is, one must speak only of the likes of Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven.
@Jitpring Hear, hear! Some would say it's songwriting craft. I wrote in one of these videos, that you can hear how Fagen knows his jazz-based harmony. You could argue "all jazz cats could do this" (which is rarely the case, but that's beside the point). People have a tendency to use the word "genius" to describe ANYTHING that 's "out of the ordinary", to THEM. Especially in these days, when music like this (and this is actually considered "rock") simply doesn't exist.
hoodooskidoo....any chance you can upload On the Dunes ? This disc is one of the only SD-related things I don't own that I'd actually like to own. Guess I need to order it up, eh ?
1:23 to 3:17 was impressive
TheNicholas0202 1 month ago
3:17... That look... He knows he's fucking badass...
euphoricelephants 8 months ago 6
Steely Dan is so intriguing to me. When I was young I did't like them at all. My hears weren't mature enough, and I've never been a jazz head so some of their maj7 chord sequences would cheese me out a bit. Now that I'm older and understand what they're doing, I can't get enough. I've transcribe 13 of their best songs on piano, just to see how they work. I've become completely obsessed with their arrangements, the chord inversions they use, so this video is very helpful. Thanks
tyleryesta1 8 months ago
Once I get a good camera I'd like to share what I've learned.
tyleryesta1 8 months ago
wtf why would you post this...... great shit!
cape228 11 months ago
WOW! Thanks for this and the 'Peg' videos. Never seen this footage before.
BoozehammerOfGalem 1 year ago
God, if only we had more skilled musicians taking this approach
TheJJAAZZZZ 1 year ago
@Jitpring I'd agree. But you have to admit, it is very nice to see musicians that did take the time to put some real musical thought process into what most people considered "pop" music. It's fun to see him describing his thought process in the building of the chord structures and changes.
neveauj 1 year ago
nah, this is genius... i truly do understand it as a trained musician, perhaps better than you two do...but until you or I or anyone else comes up with something at least as impactful or popular for that matter...we are all just the masses and people like Feagan etc. are the genius... and trust me, genius is not a gift its something that is worked for... despite what you may have heard about Mozarts genius...he worked his ass off for his results too... we are all human
cinderellaman7x 1 year ago
@cinderellaman7x
how can you possibly say you as a 'trained musician' understand this better than anyone else does?the only thing you know about these people is that they have accounts on youtube and like the music of steely dan,so you can spare us your pontificating bullshit.they have proven in their comments that they are more musically adept than you are.they are commenting on what they see, and making reasonable argument, not making absurd,contrived statements about the question of genius.
faustovillagomez 1 year ago
Friends, this is not genius. It's competence, and competence is quite enough.
Today's overuse of the word "genius" is very annoying. Genius is in fact very, very , very rare. When speaking of actual geniuses, that is, one must speak only of the likes of Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven.
Jitpring 1 year ago
@Jitpring Hear, hear! Some would say it's songwriting craft. I wrote in one of these videos, that you can hear how Fagen knows his jazz-based harmony. You could argue "all jazz cats could do this" (which is rarely the case, but that's beside the point). People have a tendency to use the word "genius" to describe ANYTHING that 's "out of the ordinary", to THEM. Especially in these days, when music like this (and this is actually considered "rock") simply doesn't exist.
samsamba08 1 year ago 3
@Jitpring i think someones jealous :/
Hotdang234 1 year ago
this is really cool!! Thank you for posting this, if you have more please post. THanks again!!
forher40 1 year ago
i bought the video tape of this a few years ago NTSC but our region in the UK is PAL.
paulallen34 1 year ago
Really awesome. Thank you for posting. Do we know what year this was?
jrichman21 2 years ago
Thank you hoodooskidoo do you have more videos of donald fagen explaining his songs thanks again
javijazztazz 2 years ago
Excellent!!!! very interesting
audioimportgmbh 2 years ago
Sounds like the C above Middle C is hitting dead. Might need to replace the gromits.
Keyboardman88 2 years ago
Explained so much. Thank you.
dmart000 2 years ago
3:15 , love the 3 second pause, something about it
SixFootLongPianist 2 years ago
hoodooskidoo....any chance you can upload On the Dunes ? This disc is one of the only SD-related things I don't own that I'd actually like to own. Guess I need to order it up, eh ?
hklinker 2 years ago
Have you got some more of this stuff?
wallofsound 2 years ago
thank you so much for this!
Sketchboxx 2 years ago
You're welcome. I've always admired the way Steely Dan puts sophisticated harmony into pop songs. Here we get a glimpse of how it's done.
hoodooskidoo 2 years ago
@hoodooskidoo Hey, where did you get this? Is it from a release of some kind?
euphoricelephants 8 months ago