It's 2012 - this film will turn 30 on 4 June of this year :) Let's hope it gets re-released in theatres for its 30th birthday (hopefully as a double-bill, backed with Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock). :)
Yes. James Horner understands the mystery and majesty of deep space, certainly better, IMO, than the others who have composed the earlier, at least, star trek movie scores
This Star Trek score gave me goose bumps way back when I first saw the movie and it still does. That's part of what made The Wrath of Khan my favorite Star Trek Movie.
This Star Trek score gave me goose bumps way back when I first saw the movie and it still does. That's part of what maid The Wrath of Khan my favorite Star Trek Movie.
This is how I want to go out. The military denied me service. All as well. America is not the country it used to be, but I'm sure somehow, someway, I will have my soldier's death in order to preserve life...
An absolutely brilliant Star Trek film and my favorite. I was only seven when my parents took me to see it. We saw them all, but this is by far the best! The series and the movie began my love for William
Shatner. (At the tender age of five! LOL) This movie and hauntingly beautiful still give me chills...even twenty nine years later...
Through scripting and editing, they should have made it so that Khan's dying image was the Enterprise warping out of the nebula. After all your hard work for vengence, James Kirk bests you....again
I saw this film in IMAX @ the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum in DC years ago when they had a 1 night only event. Sat dead freaking center. They showed the original version when the title said: Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan, not Star Trek II. THAT was the best way to watch the Reliant pass over top of the Enterprise. I got to see and feel the full effect of that scene so much more than ever. It was an incredible experience, not to mention we almost got killed on the street afterward.
Film score at its very best. I'm not really a huge trek fan but this is easily one of my all time favourite films regardless of its theme.
This score is so evocative of big ships and naval battles; it lends a somewhat 'hammy' film a great deal of credibility. The final sequence when Kirk realises that Spock is missing and he races to engineering is one of the most heart wrenching pieces of music ever put to celluloid.
55,1:10,2:55 Is about as good as any music score can get in my opinion.The music "feels" like nothing before or since.From hells heart I DO NOT stab at thee :) Thank you for posting this!
Beautiful totally amazing, the Project Genesis Planet Genesis "The creation of life. Not death." I love this scene, this was of all and still is te best Trek fim ever.
The best sequence,musically,in the entire star trek series. Stealing the enterprise is a close second but this has every sweeping aspect down to a tee. This will never be bettered.......
This is by far my all time favorite Trek movie. Historical references to great authors novels. Excellent effects and plot to get the viewer into the movie. All put together with Homers awesome composition.
Thanks for this upload! To hear it alone without dialog is beautiful.
James Horner sure knows how to make the scenes of giant lumbering starships trying to maneuver in space into something exciting and dangerous feeling. That's what I love about with Horner and Williams. They use "Themes" exceptionally, something more recent composers lack.
I saw Star Trek II at the Empire Leicester Square Star Trek marathon Sunday October 8th 1989 in 70mm and the power of the dynamic range via the original JBL 13KW THX sound system rumbled powerfully and the James Horner score punched hard in my body sat in the circle swat spot fantastic.
I was 11 when this came out, and remember the how the whole movie sparked my imagination. I'll never forget how my mom cried at Spock's death as well as some others in the theater, totally unexpected. This is the crown on top of all the Star Trek movies, period!
there's no going around it , This is star trek music at its best , So much emotion in it , Tension (the escape attempt) , angre from khan , the escape at the last second , the death of spock .
The part from 3:01 is movie tension at it's best. Nick Meyer said in the commentary he kept the camera moving on each of them because he wanted to really build tension in the final momments.
Or as Kevin Smith once said in one of his "Evening Harder" movies: "Star Trek II was a pimp fucking movie. I mean you sit a non-Trek fan in front of this thing and they'll even say that it's bad-ass."
That's how all Trek should be. I watched the old Star Treks again recently for the first time in years, and I'd forgotten how good the writing was. It stood on its own two feet, you didn't need any kind of background knowledge to appreciate the stories. They weren't just pieces of a puzzle, but distinct works of art.
I know ST2 refers a lot to Khan's old series episode, but you don't need to have seen it to appreciate the film (come to think of it, I have never seen that particular episode).
no i never saw it either but made nil difference to the film.
in fact sometimes that sort of unknown backstory really adds by its mystery.
like in the star wars films it was way better learning the legend of Vader's fall from the parts 4-6 as it leaves alot to the nightsky of the child's imagination- having it all spelled out in 1-3 was disappointing.
i'm the opposide, I'd seen the original episode and the film followed it brilliantly. i believe any sequel should stand on it's own without seeing the predecessor
I love the bit at 0:40 where the music becomes dramatic as Spock decides he must die to save the ship. We don't know that of course, but the music tells us he is doing something important (even though he's just walking to the lift).
If you notice as Kirk is telling Scotty that he "needs warp speed in three minutes or we're all dead", the camera slowly pans over to Spock and with only him in frame, we can see that he's already made his decision.
That's exactly the bit I mean. It's nice that the director and composer put that in there, it makes it rewarding to rewatch the film. As far as I recall there was nothing that interesting when a similar situation arose in the Nemesis film (I won't say any more so I don't spoil the plot).
And even the first time you see ST2, I think subconsciously you notice that Spock is deciding something important but you're not sure what, which adds to the tension.
Even with Star Trek (2009) and its wonderful, imaginative franchise-invigorating filmmaking, it will never top Star Trek II. If the two movies were in a horserace, ST: TWOK would win by a few lengths. A lot of it has to do with the great score by Horner. Although it is terribly cliché to say--and I fucking hate clichés--the score in this film was a very powerful and dramatic and charismatic character. (I would say as much as the maniacal Khan was.)
There are incredibly many synch points in it, i.e. time points in which the music perfectly matches the picture. The view permanently changes from within the ship to an outer total view, closeups of the characters and so on.... and Horner reacts in such a natural way!
My favorites are Wrath of Khan, First Contact and Generations. I always love the battle with Kirk and Picard against Soran in Generations. It was Shatners last battle.
fellow trekkies.... there are a lot of trek films, some terrific, some mediocre, some dreadful. but in order of preference they must be from 1-11. i just say disregard ever watching generations, insurrection or nemesis. trek 1 and 5 are optional
in total agreement with you timefilm, though i do find the "slow-motion picture" to have a certain charm - could have something to do with everyone trying to look like they hadn't aged in the previous decade...
To all readers, I posted my ranking to spark a lively respectful debate. If you disagree with me, make your point, and I'll respect that. No need to call me names. We all base our opinions on our basic human differences. There is no right or wrong answer when it comes to preference.
New ranking after having seen 11: 2,8,6,4,3,7,11,10,9,1,5. 11 was not Star Trek. It was full of action and nice special effects that appeal to the general public, but you can only explain away so many inaccuracies with the altered timeline. Leonard Nimoy and the bad guy were good. But Spock's love interest with Uhura? Chekov present from the beginning? Kirk going from academy grad to Captain in 1 movie, leapfrogging Spock, Sulu, Chekov, and Uhura who were already part of the crew? Please!
you put 10 above 9,1 & 5? the new trek film was fantastic. spocks love interest with Uhura was a deliberate seed. checkov being on the ship - who cares? and as for kirk getting command, circumstances permited he relieve Pike. i just think he should ahve been given a 5 year mission - my only gripe. but i have very few bad words for the new film
People are entitled to their different opinions. I disagree with you but don't have to call you names. No one gets a permanent promotion from cadet to Captain based on one battle, even if he saved Earth. I would have done a 3-movie prequel a la Star Wars (I hope this isn't sacrilege), show Kirk heroically proving himself, and moving up in rank. That said, ST 11 saved the Star Trek movie series; I just wish they could have stayed more true to the 40+ year Star Trek tradition.
But if you had to rank them, where would you put them? There are things I like about 1 & 5 (the soundtracks), but put up against the other movies, they don't live up to expectations. Just my opinion.
People always slag off Shatner's acting, but it is totally unfair. This movie proved that he can act. When he is given something that resembles a decent script, he pulls it off well. The old Star Trek series wasn't that badly acted, but the Wrath was a great movie, and he rose to the task I believe.
man i have to agree this is a great masterpiece of mucsic that horner had came up with in this movie and in some of the other trek films he did but i do have one question what is the name of the song being played on in the video?
Horner is amazing, and this score really set the standard.
Say what you will about Shatner, but his reaction shot at 5:17 when he sees Spock's empty chair is chilling. And his frantic desperation to get to Spock is utterly heartbreaking.
*Sniff* Ah, geez, I'm having a "Seinfeld" moment here....
was watching early 80s movie' Krull' at weekend and was struck by how similar some of the score was to this...dont know if it was also james horner but good all the same
Agreed, fitzwarine. As others have said, this music captured a nautical theme that is absent from most others like Star Wars, Galactica, et al.
Star Trek has always been Hornblower in space.
Close your eyes and listen. If you were to lay this music over a Horatio Hornblower film, or a re-enactment of the Battle of Trafalgar, it would not be out of place.
This music invoked that beautiful "ship on the high seas" image, which perfectly matched the ship battles.
As opposed to franchises like Star Wars or Battlestar Galactica where ship duels are the "zip-zip-zip" gnats, ST has that slow galleon grace that's captured in Horner's music.
I concur. Battle in the Mutara Nebula is much like Battle on the Ice. Listen some time. I give James Horner all the credit for being inspired by some excellent music!
Unfortunately, Star Wars never showed epic capital ship battles. I'd bet if there was a slugfest between a Star Destroyer and a Mon Calamari cruiser (X-Wing Novel 7(?): Iron Fist, anyone?), John Williams would write not the same, but he would evoke a similar grandeur!
...but I could hear the cries from the fans. BORING! BORING! Make 'em go FASTER. Why wasn't the capital ship battle at LEAST in an asteroid field so they could zip zip zip past the asteroids at absurd speeds??
It's for that reason Star Wars and Star Trek have (or at least had at that time) such different flavors.
I don't think there are any circumstances where Star Wars would evoke an Horatio Hornblower, late 18th century nautical adventure type of feeling that Star Trek (especially the original) evokes.
@EndCredulity Director Meyer told Horner, "Think earthbound; think open seas." And if you can picture grand naval vessels, with their sails billiowing with the gusts of wind, the music fits. That's another reason why this film was so good...you had a guy directing it that wasn't a Star Trek fan. The same reason Star Trek (2009) was great...J.J. Abrams wasn't a fan either.
Well, James Horner composed both 'Wrath of Khan' and 'The Undiscovered Country' and they are both almost always rated as the two best movies of the series. I don't think this is a coincidence.
The director from 2 directed 6, james horner did the score for 2 and 3. I love the Horner and Goldsmith scores hate the rest can't wait for the new one, the guy who scored Lost and Alias is doing it and may do great things.
The best placed I've heard and FELT the score was on the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo type A print at the Empire Leicester Square via the original JBL and THX sound system on Sunday October 8th 1989 it was in my face the bass was kicking hard on my body and the sub bass just went totally NUTS! I mean this was Star Trek at its best, Empire screen1!
Wow! I remember back in '92 watching all 6 at the cinema, the first was a 70mm print and the quality and sound was phenominal. The second film was pretty scratchy and in mono
Brilliant score. I think Wrath of Khan is one of the best scifi movies (regardless of whetehr its Trek) but the score does elevate it into operatic proportions. Fantastic.
I love hornes work and truely think this is his best score even vs Titanic, Willow, Batteries not Included, Cocoon, Braveheart etc. He out "Williamsed" J William Star Wars theme for pure space opera. And this was one of his first big scores!
omg every time i see this movie and here the score i cant help but smile it takes me back to the first time i seen this film which is also my first star trek film and the rest is history.
you can so hear so much og his other scores in his work ...inthis theme I hear the ending of "Aliens" and parts of "Wolfen" even a little of "TITANIC" when the ship is sinking at the end
"Genesis Countdown". One of Horner's best cues. If only they'd release a complete Star Trek 2 and Star Trek 3. Some great cues missing from the original released cds.
It's 2012 - this film will turn 30 on 4 June of this year :) Let's hope it gets re-released in theatres for its 30th birthday (hopefully as a double-bill, backed with Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock). :)
SPeacock 2 months ago
To the last I grapple with thee.For hates sake I spit my last breath at thee.Im sure khan survived and I'm now married to her.
suzukix5owner 2 months ago
1:57 Is that a automatic Revolving door? Because it looks cool! I WANNA GO IN IT!
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Yes. James Horner understands the mystery and majesty of deep space, certainly better, IMO, than the others who have composed the earlier, at least, star trek movie scores
Strefanasha 2 months ago
I loved this part of the movie!
Cpnowys1awsome 3 months ago
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This Star Trek score gave me goose bumps way back when I first saw the movie and it still does. That's part of what made The Wrath of Khan my favorite Star Trek Movie.
TRENZ2 5 months ago
This Star Trek score gave me goose bumps way back when I first saw the movie and it still does. That's part of what maid The Wrath of Khan my favorite Star Trek Movie.
TRENZ2 5 months ago
This is how I want to go out. The military denied me service. All as well. America is not the country it used to be, but I'm sure somehow, someway, I will have my soldier's death in order to preserve life...
72281livefreeordie 7 months ago
Beautiful
WoahSalmo 7 months ago
An absolutely brilliant Star Trek film and my favorite. I was only seven when my parents took me to see it. We saw them all, but this is by far the best! The series and the movie began my love for William
Shatner. (At the tender age of five! LOL) This movie and hauntingly beautiful still give me chills...even twenty nine years later...
Thank you for posting this!
CharityBarnum 9 months ago
Through scripting and editing, they should have made it so that Khan's dying image was the Enterprise warping out of the nebula. After all your hard work for vengence, James Kirk bests you....again
cincstarfleet 1 year ago
I saw this film in IMAX @ the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum in DC years ago when they had a 1 night only event. Sat dead freaking center. They showed the original version when the title said: Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan, not Star Trek II. THAT was the best way to watch the Reliant pass over top of the Enterprise. I got to see and feel the full effect of that scene so much more than ever. It was an incredible experience, not to mention we almost got killed on the street afterward.
TheReturningShadow 1 year ago
REMAKE!!
theimpossiblers 1 year ago
@theimpossible No way
Shazam961 3 months ago
This should have won an Oscar!
The (final) script was made in just 12 days. That's how awesome the movie is!
theimpossiblers 1 year ago
My favorite part is 4:09 when they go into warp
Yewon2001 1 year ago
My favourite movie of all time.....it has it all-the score is just a bonus. You literally don't see movies like this anymore!
1peachyboy 1 year ago
"Scotty we need warp power in three minutes or we are dead!
virtualpilot31 1 year ago
@virtualpilot31 at least quote it right dammit! hahaha
Johnrl21 1 year ago
Thanks for doing this....great stuff....and it just proves that quality material can stand the test of time.
Johnrl21 1 year ago
Film score at its very best. I'm not really a huge trek fan but this is easily one of my all time favourite films regardless of its theme.
This score is so evocative of big ships and naval battles; it lends a somewhat 'hammy' film a great deal of credibility. The final sequence when Kirk realises that Spock is missing and he races to engineering is one of the most heart wrenching pieces of music ever put to celluloid.
wallabees 1 year ago
Ladies and gentlemen, THAT is how Vulcans go out. In style.
StarshipMaxima 1 year ago 3
55,1:10,2:55 Is about as good as any music score can get in my opinion.The music "feels" like nothing before or since.From hells heart I DO NOT stab at thee :) Thank you for posting this!
richpartist 1 year ago
55,1:10,2:55 Is about as good as any music score can get in my opinion.The music "feels" like nothing before or since.
richpartist 1 year ago
Beautiful totally amazing, the Project Genesis Planet Genesis "The creation of life. Not death." I love this scene, this was of all and still is te best Trek fim ever.
mart270 1 year ago
The best sequence,musically,in the entire star trek series. Stealing the enterprise is a close second but this has every sweeping aspect down to a tee. This will never be bettered.......
1peachyboy 1 year ago
:03 COMMIT then :53 RADIATION thats a great direction movement they did .each one like a great cue and with james music cues its fuckin brilliant
talleyho12 1 year ago
Hmm...the musical themes are lovingly woven together into a beautifull tapestry of sound that complements and adds to the story on screen.
I love this film, I saw it at the cinema multiple times, I was given the VHS copy, then the DVD. Well, by then I'd worn the tape out. : ))
LoriCiani 1 year ago
this is so kewl i like this alot
MrShadowknight2000 1 year ago
not only Horners and Shatner's finest hours but the whole Star Trek franchise at it's absolute peak. Marvellous passion, adventure and emotion!
CaptainOatwright 1 year ago
This is by far my all time favorite Trek movie. Historical references to great authors novels. Excellent effects and plot to get the viewer into the movie. All put together with Homers awesome composition.
Thanks for this upload! To hear it alone without dialog is beautiful.
tomcatm16 1 year ago
I love you also for this uload! Thanks!
Donnergeier 1 year ago
James Horner sure knows how to make the scenes of giant lumbering starships trying to maneuver in space into something exciting and dangerous feeling. That's what I love about with Horner and Williams. They use "Themes" exceptionally, something more recent composers lack.
DJsStratoArt 1 year ago
I saw Star Trek II at the Empire Leicester Square Star Trek marathon Sunday October 8th 1989 in 70mm and the power of the dynamic range via the original JBL 13KW THX sound system rumbled powerfully and the James Horner score punched hard in my body sat in the circle swat spot fantastic.
EmpireLS56KW 2 years ago
I was 11 when this came out, and remember the how the whole movie sparked my imagination. I'll never forget how my mom cried at Spock's death as well as some others in the theater, totally unexpected. This is the crown on top of all the Star Trek movies, period!
phetops 2 years ago
there's no going around it , This is star trek music at its best , So much emotion in it , Tension (the escape attempt) , angre from khan , the escape at the last second , the death of spock .
A master piece
SkampeX 2 years ago
magnificent score magnificent movie JJ Abrams should have watched it to understand who to make real Star Trek
sondano 2 years ago 6
so so true!
CaptainOatwright 1 year ago
James Horner foe Star Trek 12! =D
DaddlerTheDalek 2 years ago 3
The music tell the story all by its self :-)
peterasimpson 2 years ago 7
Another good bit is at 05:50 - you can see the hope leaving Kirk and the music gets this across really well.
finnobrit1 2 years ago
agreed, it was all instinct but scotties words got thru to him... masterful direction
timefilm 2 years ago
what was he doing to kirk from 5:50 on? lol
juliet97 2 years ago
The part from 3:01 is movie tension at it's best. Nick Meyer said in the commentary he kept the camera moving on each of them because he wanted to really build tension in the final momments.
halifaxboyns 2 years ago
Or as Kevin Smith once said in one of his "Evening Harder" movies: "Star Trek II was a pimp fucking movie. I mean you sit a non-Trek fan in front of this thing and they'll even say that it's bad-ass."
clericjack 2 years ago
That's how all Trek should be. I watched the old Star Treks again recently for the first time in years, and I'd forgotten how good the writing was. It stood on its own two feet, you didn't need any kind of background knowledge to appreciate the stories. They weren't just pieces of a puzzle, but distinct works of art.
I know ST2 refers a lot to Khan's old series episode, but you don't need to have seen it to appreciate the film (come to think of it, I have never seen that particular episode).
finnobrit1 2 years ago
no i never saw it either but made nil difference to the film.
in fact sometimes that sort of unknown backstory really adds by its mystery.
like in the star wars films it was way better learning the legend of Vader's fall from the parts 4-6 as it leaves alot to the nightsky of the child's imagination- having it all spelled out in 1-3 was disappointing.
robinoi 2 years ago 4
Totally agree.
The most intense things in film are usually things you can only half-see. Revealing everything just spoils it.
finnobrit1 2 years ago
i'm the opposide, I'd seen the original episode and the film followed it brilliantly. i believe any sequel should stand on it's own without seeing the predecessor
timefilm 2 years ago
Agreed, I detest the newer SW films :(
themodette 2 years ago
you should see it... it's great. 'space seed' it's called. it's good to watch a few select episodes of the old series before watching the films
timefilm 2 years ago
I love the bit at 0:40 where the music becomes dramatic as Spock decides he must die to save the ship. We don't know that of course, but the music tells us he is doing something important (even though he's just walking to the lift).
finnobrit1 2 years ago
If you notice as Kirk is telling Scotty that he "needs warp speed in three minutes or we're all dead", the camera slowly pans over to Spock and with only him in frame, we can see that he's already made his decision.
clericjack 2 years ago 3
That's exactly the bit I mean. It's nice that the director and composer put that in there, it makes it rewarding to rewatch the film. As far as I recall there was nothing that interesting when a similar situation arose in the Nemesis film (I won't say any more so I don't spoil the plot).
And even the first time you see ST2, I think subconsciously you notice that Spock is deciding something important but you're not sure what, which adds to the tension.
finnobrit1 2 years ago
You don't actually need the dialogue with a score this good. Even if you can't tell what they're saying, the music alone explains what's going on.
finnobrit1 2 years ago
COMMIT ... bitches
talleyho12 2 years ago
Even with Star Trek (2009) and its wonderful, imaginative franchise-invigorating filmmaking, it will never top Star Trek II. If the two movies were in a horserace, ST: TWOK would win by a few lengths. A lot of it has to do with the great score by Horner. Although it is terribly cliché to say--and I fucking hate clichés--the score in this film was a very powerful and dramatic and charismatic character. (I would say as much as the maniacal Khan was.)
clericjack 2 years ago
thought I'd chime in and give my personal movie rankings in order from best to worst:
2,6,8,11,4,3,10,7,9,1,5
gfedtyhfs 2 years ago
There are incredibly many synch points in it, i.e. time points in which the music perfectly matches the picture. The view permanently changes from within the ship to an outer total view, closeups of the characters and so on.... and Horner reacts in such a natural way!
StevenWiesberg 2 years ago
that cue for the genesis device is probably one of the best music cues ive heard. james horner is a film score god. haha
SEMAT56 2 years ago
My favorites are Wrath of Khan, First Contact and Generations. I always love the battle with Kirk and Picard against Soran in Generations. It was Shatners last battle.
dlee7674 2 years ago
Wish i could agree.... shatners last stand or not... generations is a terrible film
timefilm 2 years ago
fellow trekkies.... there are a lot of trek films, some terrific, some mediocre, some dreadful. but in order of preference they must be from 1-11. i just say disregard ever watching generations, insurrection or nemesis. trek 1 and 5 are optional
timefilm 2 years ago
ST-TMP (first) is best. Epic qualities made it stand out. James Horner does good in replacing Goldsmith. I even liked the fifth movie and Nemisis!
I bought all the vinyl soundtrack from 1-5. After six the music went south along with any grandeur moments.
This from a Star Wars fan for what it's worth.
oneinsixcom 2 years ago
in total agreement with you timefilm, though i do find the "slow-motion picture" to have a certain charm - could have something to do with everyone trying to look like they hadn't aged in the previous decade...
jonisilk 2 years ago
To all readers, I posted my ranking to spark a lively respectful debate. If you disagree with me, make your point, and I'll respect that. No need to call me names. We all base our opinions on our basic human differences. There is no right or wrong answer when it comes to preference.
MusicalFan1701 2 years ago
New ranking after having seen 11: 2,8,6,4,3,7,11,10,9,1,5. 11 was not Star Trek. It was full of action and nice special effects that appeal to the general public, but you can only explain away so many inaccuracies with the altered timeline. Leonard Nimoy and the bad guy were good. But Spock's love interest with Uhura? Chekov present from the beginning? Kirk going from academy grad to Captain in 1 movie, leapfrogging Spock, Sulu, Chekov, and Uhura who were already part of the crew? Please!
MusicalFan1701 2 years ago
you put 10 above 9,1 & 5? the new trek film was fantastic. spocks love interest with Uhura was a deliberate seed. checkov being on the ship - who cares? and as for kirk getting command, circumstances permited he relieve Pike. i just think he should ahve been given a 5 year mission - my only gripe. but i have very few bad words for the new film
timefilm 2 years ago
youre an idiot.
its called a battle field promotion....
and the REAL order is this:
2,6,11,10,1,9,8,3,4,7,5
how dare you put that generations crap so high on the list.....LMAO.
69nintendo69 2 years ago
People are entitled to their different opinions. I disagree with you but don't have to call you names. No one gets a permanent promotion from cadet to Captain based on one battle, even if he saved Earth. I would have done a 3-movie prequel a la Star Wars (I hope this isn't sacrilege), show Kirk heroically proving himself, and moving up in rank. That said, ST 11 saved the Star Trek movie series; I just wish they could have stayed more true to the 40+ year Star Trek tradition.
MusicalFan1701 2 years ago
you put 10 above 8?? you put 10 anywhere except last????
timefilm 2 years ago
I'm sure when the filmmakers heard this solid score they were excited...... It should of been nominated for a Oscar....
whitmer73 2 years ago
My rank (haven't seen 11 yet): Awesome:2,8,6,4,3. O.K.: 7,10,9. No comment: 1,5.
MusicalFan1701 2 years ago
once you see 11 you'll have it 2,11,8... guaranteed. the new one had 95% rating on rotten tomatoes.
SEMAT56 2 years ago 2
1 and 5 are just as good in my opinion.
chopperpilot5 2 years ago
But if you had to rank them, where would you put them? There are things I like about 1 & 5 (the soundtracks), but put up against the other movies, they don't live up to expectations. Just my opinion.
MusicalFan1701 2 years ago
well my order goes 3,2,4,6,7,5,8,10,1
I have to give 5 four out of four, and 1 three and a half out of four. My least fovorite ones are 1, and 8
chopperpilot5 2 years ago
Ranking according to Rotten Tomatoes: 11,8,2,4,6,3,9,1,7,10,5.
MusicalFan1701 2 years ago
1 is a great movie. it's just dull is all. as for 5... it's really not THAT bad. it's just weak is all.
timefilm 2 years ago
ur a buffoon!
69nintendo69 2 years ago
My opinion sorry............... Bastard.
chopperpilot5 2 years ago
7 sucked balls, 1 is only for the hard core fans, and 5 should be banned in all countries.
69nintendo69 2 years ago
actually, 5 is ok... I've seen a fan re-edit and it was very enjoyable!
timefilm 2 years ago
"What do you think of my solution"... WAHH *starts crying*
ashleypoo1319 2 years ago
COMMIT in red good use of subliminal message to make an even better directed movie
talleyho12 2 years ago
Shatner can act. He can do Shakspeare too.
ifscott 2 years ago
People always slag off Shatner's acting, but it is totally unfair. This movie proved that he can act. When he is given something that resembles a decent script, he pulls it off well. The old Star Trek series wasn't that badly acted, but the Wrath was a great movie, and he rose to the task I believe.
bazzer0007 2 years ago 2
i just find it one of the most moving pieces of film scoring ever.
bennymutant 2 years ago
man i have to agree this is a great masterpiece of mucsic that horner had came up with in this movie and in some of the other trek films he did but i do have one question what is the name of the song being played on in the video?
indeebprod 2 years ago
I believe it's the genesis countdown
timefilm 2 years ago
Horner is amazing, and this score really set the standard.
Say what you will about Shatner, but his reaction shot at 5:17 when he sees Spock's empty chair is chilling. And his frantic desperation to get to Spock is utterly heartbreaking.
*Sniff* Ah, geez, I'm having a "Seinfeld" moment here....
Kirok 2 years ago
hahaha
timefilm 2 years ago
the piece at 5:20 is the best! Kirk's desperation to get to Spock is heartbreaking
Gallifrey1991 2 years ago
Kirk to Enterprise...
Kirk to Enterprise...
Nachuelas 3 years ago
was watching early 80s movie' Krull' at weekend and was struck by how similar some of the score was to this...dont know if it was also james horner but good all the same
wolf2323 3 years ago
yep... horner indeed
timefilm 3 years ago
Very true!
joel1975 3 years ago
Best movie score!! Powerful!
It's like two boats chasung each other
CalgarSkull 3 years ago 3
Whoever posted this - nice one. This is some of the finest movie music ever.
ste5f 3 years ago 3
Agreed, fitzwarine. As others have said, this music captured a nautical theme that is absent from most others like Star Wars, Galactica, et al.
Star Trek has always been Hornblower in space.
Close your eyes and listen. If you were to lay this music over a Horatio Hornblower film, or a re-enactment of the Battle of Trafalgar, it would not be out of place.
EndCredulity 3 years ago 2
Most passionate Star Trek music ever created. Adventurous, emotional, and brilliant.
fitzwarine09 3 years ago 19
agreed.
spoonmonkey14 3 years ago
this is the tits and always will be awesome.
jtkwilson 3 years ago
Star Wars never had anything this gripping or emotionally draining.
garthmarenghifan 3 years ago 3
Neither really did as far as score ~ Nothing against John. . . but James was way before his time when he put this together =)
Jacena 3 years ago 2
Amen!
Joey Lodes
joeylodes 3 years ago
This music invoked that beautiful "ship on the high seas" image, which perfectly matched the ship battles.
As opposed to franchises like Star Wars or Battlestar Galactica where ship duels are the "zip-zip-zip" gnats, ST has that slow galleon grace that's captured in Horner's music.
EndCredulity 3 years ago 13
damn, I like that analogy! well said!
coconutscentedlocks 3 years ago 2
It was in part inspired by Prokofiev's Alexander Nevsky
robinoi 3 years ago
I concur. Battle in the Mutara Nebula is much like Battle on the Ice. Listen some time. I give James Horner all the credit for being inspired by some excellent music!
ThaddeusWalters 3 years ago
Unfortunately, Star Wars never showed epic capital ship battles. I'd bet if there was a slugfest between a Star Destroyer and a Mon Calamari cruiser (X-Wing Novel 7(?): Iron Fist, anyone?), John Williams would write not the same, but he would evoke a similar grandeur!
ThaddeusWalters 3 years ago
...but I could hear the cries from the fans. BORING! BORING! Make 'em go FASTER. Why wasn't the capital ship battle at LEAST in an asteroid field so they could zip zip zip past the asteroids at absurd speeds??
It's for that reason Star Wars and Star Trek have (or at least had at that time) such different flavors.
EndCredulity 3 years ago
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I don't think there are any circumstances where Star Wars would evoke an Horatio Hornblower, late 18th century nautical adventure type of feeling that Star Trek (especially the original) evokes.
EndCredulity 3 years ago
@EndCredulity Director Meyer told Horner, "Think earthbound; think open seas." And if you can picture grand naval vessels, with their sails billiowing with the gusts of wind, the music fits. That's another reason why this film was so good...you had a guy directing it that wasn't a Star Trek fan. The same reason Star Trek (2009) was great...J.J. Abrams wasn't a fan either.
clericjack 1 year ago
Nobody touches Horner! Simply nobody! The Best!
joeylodes 3 years ago 4
Only 6,798 views?? Come on, this video and its fellow part 1 deserve a highly Astronomical number of views!
NeutralDice 3 years ago 2
here here. I agree!
timefilm 3 years ago
this movie had good music but i think 3 beat it
spacexploder 3 years ago
I can never find Spock's theme...
interstitialofficial 3 years ago
Go to my profile, open up the trek tribute and a rendition of spocks theme starts at 3.15
unless you wanted the wine glass sounding version. you'd have to track down the soundtrack. trek 3 had the best version when sarek melds with kirk.
timefilm 3 years ago
Well, James Horner composed both 'Wrath of Khan' and 'The Undiscovered Country' and they are both almost always rated as the two best movies of the series. I don't think this is a coincidence.
dwiley3 3 years ago
You call yourself a james horner and a star trek fan?? check those credits again!
timefilm 3 years ago
actually horner composed II and III
undiscovered country was some other guy...good score, though
spaceawesome22 3 years ago
The director from 2 directed 6, james horner did the score for 2 and 3. I love the Horner and Goldsmith scores hate the rest can't wait for the new one, the guy who scored Lost and Alias is doing it and may do great things.
dirtylarryuk 3 years ago
Cliff Eidelman scored Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, not Horner.
ApolloWolf 3 years ago
The best placed I've heard and FELT the score was on the 70mm six-track Dolby stereo type A print at the Empire Leicester Square via the original JBL and THX sound system on Sunday October 8th 1989 it was in my face the bass was kicking hard on my body and the sub bass just went totally NUTS! I mean this was Star Trek at its best, Empire screen1!
IntermittentSprocket 3 years ago
Wow! I remember back in '92 watching all 6 at the cinema, the first was a 70mm print and the quality and sound was phenominal. The second film was pretty scratchy and in mono
timefilm 3 years ago
Brilliant score. I think Wrath of Khan is one of the best scifi movies (regardless of whetehr its Trek) but the score does elevate it into operatic proportions. Fantastic.
brushgently 3 years ago 2
I love hornes work and truely think this is his best score even vs Titanic, Willow, Batteries not Included, Cocoon, Braveheart etc. He out "Williamsed" J William Star Wars theme for pure space opera. And this was one of his first big scores!
dirtylarryuk 3 years ago
James Horner has such a way with music. You could have shown beer cans and forks and they would seem ominous and large with this music playing!
scoochy 3 years ago
I swear I've seen that too. lol
timefilm 3 years ago
omg every time i see this movie and here the score i cant help but smile it takes me back to the first time i seen this film which is also my first star trek film and the rest is history.
budd2200 3 years ago
great video, nice work 10/10
Gwazz123 3 years ago
simply awesome. will you be releasing any tributes to his work on Star Trek III?
hawkeye77o4 3 years ago
I was thinking about 'stealing the enterprise'
timefilm 3 years ago
that was exactly the one I wanted lol
hawkeye77o4 3 years ago
wait no longer.... stealing the enterprise is now up
timefilm 3 years ago
you can so hear so much og his other scores in his work ...inthis theme I hear the ending of "Aliens" and parts of "Wolfen" even a little of "TITANIC" when the ship is sinking at the end
CalgarSkull 4 years ago
oh man, When I saw titanic it just sounded like 'Fieval goes west' mixed with 'Rocketeer'
timefilm 4 years ago
Haha so true its all so recognizable in all of his film scores lol!!
CalgarSkull 4 years ago
"Genesis Countdown". One of Horner's best cues. If only they'd release a complete Star Trek 2 and Star Trek 3. Some great cues missing from the original released cds.
USSSaville 4 years ago
My biggest complaint!
timefilm 4 years ago
Mine too!!!!
StarshipMaxima 4 years ago
Horner is one of the BEST!!!! Thank you so much for posting this!!
foxyembalmer7 4 years ago
good music makes good films!!
pupleon 4 years ago
One of my favourite all time Star Trek/Horner cues...
Digginjim 4 years ago
NO!! YOU'LL FLOOD THE WHOLE COMPARTMENT!
But he'll die!!!
He's dead already.
It's too late, Jim.
Bubbalou21 4 years ago
SSSSPOCK!!
timefilm 4 years ago
Spock, you can't go into that radiation chamber. It's ok, i have gloves.
timefilm 4 years ago
Cool editing...!
joel1975 4 years ago