@crazehpony ummm why excatly he captured the hearts of millions he would have one the TC with ease if he didnt break his leg and he almost recovered but lamthins took his hooves and he couldnt push no more and its spelled Barbaro not BARBO
Kidman and horselover, They WANT to run, they love it, it's in their blood, they know when they win and love to do it. Don't criticize the racing industry unless you know about it. And considering your input you obviously don't know anything about it. All equestrian sports are dangerous to horse and rider, whether it be show jumping, cross country, barrel racing etc. Are you saying everyone should stop riding all together? Please get your facts straight.
@flaka561 I work with thoroughbred horses and they clearly were made to run. Maybe you just don't know thoroughbreds. I hate when people watch one race where a horse breaks down and assumes it a cruel sport. it's not! Everyone around these horses cares so much about them. Watch NBC's Barbaro movie and you'll see that he was put down solely because he was in so much pain. If you're going to criticise the racing industry, maybe research some more about the people and horses.
@flaka561 again. do you work with thoroughbreds? please don't assume trainers are cruel when you don't work with them and understand them. have you seen thoroughbreds in pastures? they race eachother alll the time. of course there's risk them running since their legs are fragile- does this mean we should keep them in stalls all the time and never turnout? that's a waste of life.
well F.Y.I Im not saying you have to keep them in stalls, y dont they just stay in pastures, be treated like normal horses , go for a ride, and yes you breeders have been breeding their bones away , thats the danger in this, you know their bones are fragile, you guys know it, even you said it. PLus even the jockeys get hurt. And plus Barbara was put down bc he was in pain, first he would of never been iun pain if he never raced. or wichever horseuwas tlaking bout :/
@flaka561 i wanna b TBtrainer sumday but i love western&racein plus im12XD&ive seen a few broken down horses the strangest thing is wen i leave the race track@my place my pal tells me a horse broke&fell on the track i only heard that twice i wish i coulda been there just 2save his/her life but wen im a trainer i'll let my racer ba regular horse not b in a stall cooped up but if u watch larryzapeye vids cuz hes been around Zennyatta&many others u cant tell the love&care but sum want it 4greed
@flaka561 ok, then that's your opinion. but i would recommend watching more of the sport to see that it does not ALWAYS end badly; it rarely does. you know about eight belles and barbaro. that's great. can you name five more broken down racehorses from the top of your head? i don't think so. you'd probably be able to name more victorious horses rather than ones that have broken down.
@flaka561 Most of them dont die young. MOST of them live old. Research your facts before you make assumptions. You know Man O' War? Well did he die young? No he died when most horses ussualy die. Kay? So stop assuming this sport is cruel because its not. my god i hate people like YOU.
ok then no need for harsh words i alredy said i was sorry, and yes u are right , yes i did kno man o war, well herd of him , he was a great horse too,
and yes horse raceing isnt a harsh sport, i was wrong bout this sport, so oyu need to shut ur trap , dnt tell me to shut up cuz i alredy did and i said my sorry's , so dont friken push it , i hate rude people like oyu too
@flaka561 Most of them dont die young. MOST of them live old. Research your facts before you make assumptions. You know Man O' War? Well did he die young? No he died when most horses ussualy die. Kay? So stop assuming this sport is cruel because its not. my god i hate people like YOU. PLUS this is a sport! Would you say hockey is cruel if a famous hockey player died? I think not so shut up.
@flaka561 Well sorry but I race horses, and my horses have all been injured one way or another, and like me, im only young, 15, but when my horse gets hurt, my whole family comes in to help, spending money on vet bills, doing whatever they can to save it. All the people we knowwork with horses one way or another with sancturies, or training. If you own a horse well and truley know what you are doing and getting yourself into, you will spend EVERY LAST PENNY in them.
in ruffians race she (just her and another foolish plessure) but still she was beating him just by a head when she broke down
and wanda was up front and jus tinfront of the other horse when he breakdown happened, n she broker he leg 12 strides b4 she fell, that means she broke her leg just as she was racing past the flag pole ruffian was burried next to....
I'm sorry you feel the way you do but understand no matter what you post on the subject, there are ppl with money you don't have that well still breed and race horses. You can remove comments that don't suit you, but that's not going to stop them from racing there horses! The only thing you can do for yourself is to stop whatching all that is putting you in that state! I love horses and I can't stop them! So stop looking at the videos that is putting you that state!
@gobarrelracing as stated in Edgar Prado's book "My Guy Barbaro": (a caption under a photo taken on the turf course at the Preakness) "He was acting strange, but not enough to cause concern" he had also never been saddled and mounted on turf before, as I recall.
Barbaro is the best horse that ever lived even when i watch him race i start to cry because i miss him soo much horse racing is a awesome sport its not cruel Barbaro,Secretariat,Ruffian and lots more loved to run i love these guys and racing thats why when im older im going to be a jockey
i luved barbaro he was my fav race horse andi have read the story about ruffin its so sad. i hat it how people say horse racing is abuse when its not its a sport get over it u retards i mean these horses luv to race. p.s for thoughs of u who still think its abuse Joe talamoe the 19 year old jockey made it to the kentucky durby but his horse was scratched because her leg wasnt fully healed so ya how is that abuse in racing they do not use drugs or if they do the vets have the horse scratched.
i think it is animal cruelty its a sport, hah like dog fighting is a sport too , and oyu say thats not animal cruelty >:'(
your not even a horse lover , if oyu were one y wont you think aobut the horse, >:/ Wen a famous horse falls, its wont get bak up , if it breaks a leg, then they have to kill it bc its no use >:/ Yea oyu say horse raceing is a sport while horses get killed in raceing. itsl ike horse sloughter . >:/
he shattered his leg many times by taking a wrong step, and horses need to survive on all four legs, but he developed a hoof disease in his remaining legs and needed to be put down.
they put Barbaro down because after he was feeling better from the accident he had laminitis witch was in the three other legs of his body. Soo try having one leg just heeling and then the three other ones are sore . Soo it was tooo much , the doctors said they had to put him down. But Edgar ( Barbaro's jockey ) really didn't want that neither did anyone else but it was too much he would of suffered soo they just said bye....
coppolino, I agree with you. Most people in the racing industry give a damn about their horses and treat them very well. When you lose 1 it is like losing your beloved pet. I remember a gelding years ago that just won race after race but he was a claimer and had no stud value. Fortunately, a "retirement" stable had just opened that took such horses in and he retired there at the age of 8. Otherwise he would have been chopped up and served as dinner in Europe or Asia, like the fate of Exceller.
The good thing about racing is that they retire early! But I guess that is only good if they are lucky to get to a nice place after. My best friend bought a horse that had been racing for 8 years! she is now taking care of him and his leg was lame since spring 2009 and she can now start to ride him when we get to January. He got the love he deserved.
wow u people have no clue about horse racing my entire family is made up of owners an trainers of race horses ive been around them since i was born u people need to realize how well we take care of our horse an the great treatment they get why dont u live a day in our shoes an tell what u think then cause u have noo clue what the hell u are talkin about when u trash the racing industry ur idiots
I am a fan of barbaro's, i love the TB breed but by making them race we are killing these loveable animals. The frist time i felt what it was like to walk on my own without any help was on the back of a TB, that horse also taught me that being different from other people was ok bc Spook NEVER DID JUGE ME. Horses can change peoples lives if given the chance to ONE VERY SPECIAL TB DID FOR ME. Let them do for others like me and u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I very much agree with you. I ride a very sweet thoroughbred myself. However, I believe they were born to run, and not just that we make them, it's that they choose to. If you watch TB's in turnout, all they do is run and race eachother; i know, I see it all the time. Any equestrian sport poses danger to both riders and animals. Please do not suggest that we are "killing them" without knowing the animals you are talking about.
wow ur right dressage and arena juping is still just as dangerous but no one seems to care about those it amazes me how quick people jump all over racing but wont see tht there are other equestrian sports tht still risk injury im all for racing but i get ticked when people bash without all the facts
Yes, and most of the people criticizing racing are the people who just sit around on their couches and watch a breakdown like that. I'm around thoroughbreds a lot, and I know that racing isn't cruel at all. It really makes me mad when people don't have their facts straight.
im not around thorughbreds all the time but i want to become a trainer n breeder and i know tht i would never treat my horses badly i would always do what i could for them but sumtimes breakdowns happen its not the sports fault its just an accident think about human athelets tht get injured or paralized or killed or whatever no one ever says anything about those sports
OK. First of all, horse racing DOES kill horses. We CHOOSE to race them. SO therefore, we CHOOSE to risk their lives. Secondly, horses do not have a say in what they do. Racing is a sport that ppl force the horses to run, whether they enjoy it or not. And although some horses like it, the ppl often push the horses way to hard. Yes, the same happens with jumps and dressage, but not as often. Those horses are not at as high a risk as track horses.
And another thing, when TB horses come off the track, it is not likely that they are being given a retirement out of the goodness of their trainer. It's usually because they aren't winning races, aka making moeny. Racing IS dangerous, and shouldn't be so hard on the horses. When ppl jump a horse, they get a horse that wants to jump. Racing is different. Ppl don't care about the welfare of the horse. Maybe it's not alwayslike that, but most of the time it always is.
more than 5,000 horses that were reported killed at tracks between 2003 and 2007 An animal may be perfectly fine today, but then tomorrow it doesn't feel good and you're making it race," Marquez said. "When you do a pre-race evaluation, you have a better chance of detecting injury officials are still examining what may have caused the increase, among the theories is that its ban on rear "toe grabs"shoes that contain metal spikes to aid in tractionmight have backfired HERE IS UR PROOF. RACES KILL
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, the previous commetn I made was to prove that racing does kill horses and we just let it happen. Racing is horrible, IT DOES kill. SO maybe someday it will stop. But until then, above this is prove from a news article on racing
thank you! it pisses me off when people are so biased to think that if its not what they do with their horse, its cruel. its wrong and stupid. only people are cruel not the discipline they choose. every discipline is safe when the proper methods are used. just like any atlete in any sport there is always risk of injury. besides most race horse injuries are actually aquired while in the pasture running around in their natural state. i know being a caretaker of harness horses.
i couldn't agree more sheedalaadie, everything is cruel what we do to horses right? only if their in a pasture it isn't cruel. i hear jumping, barrel racing, but racing the most. there is nothing we can do that is safe for a horse because we are cruel. they need to go learn a few things before opening their mouth, i've been around horses all my life. abuse is cruel, not racing or having a sport with horses.
Well, if you agree with what Sheedalaadie said, you obviously did not understand. She said each equestrian sport poses a threat to both horse and rider, however horses aquire many injuries in pasture time. You claim you have been around horses all your life. Horses get hurt a lot doing things outside of sport. I thought you'd know that. Maybe you should reread her post.
ur so dumb do u want us to go and release all the horses into the wild?! u clearly know nothing about horses, and u must hate horses cause it sure sounds like it!
@ Sami13p...... did i say we should release the horses in the wild? no. do i hate horses? its the very opposite, since i own one myself and he is the best thing that happened to me! before you go thinking youre all badass, make sure you make sense. i love my horse to death, and he loves me back. im stating that ppl have the balls to say that things we do with horses is cruel. i never said we should let them go in the wild.
justslamm i totally agree i want to become a breeder/ trainer n i kno tht if i ever get started n dont burn out my horses will always be treated well n never overraced
I am a trainer myself. And I know that there are many people out there that say horse racing is cruel. I personally, love my horses. They are well taken care of . They are athletes and and athletes are injured just as in any other sport. It is NEVER our intention. I am so excited to be back at the track
i actualy have a Breyer horse modle of Ruffian in my model collection i absolutely love horses and am actualy begining training to become a real show jumper I hope someday that i can have a horse as great as these ones RIP Barbaro and Ruffian!
Its not just that there training them young. TB breeders are breeding there bones away, There breeeding for speed and size but there not keeping bone structure in mind. Were killing the TB breed and someone needs to stop it. Thats why TBs like these break there legs in races. They need to breed tough bones back into the breed again before its to late.
@RowdyJumper93 Training them too young is a major factor. Doesn't matter what the breed is if you ride a horse too young and put all that pressure on it it's bones are very vulnerable to breaking.
@RowdyJumper93 EVERY single one of these horses is from the Native Dancer line....Native Dancer is known to be the purveyor of soft bones, it's sad :( the line shouldn't carry on, other stronger lines (such as the Fair Play line that brought us Man O War, Seabiscuit and Secretariat should)...Prairie Bayou and Eight Belles also are of the Native Dancer line :(
Love ya, Dena. Agree completely, and I already said that a while ago, didn't I? I wasn't aware that Fair Play gave us Man O' War and Seabiscuit and Secretariat. Are there any horses left without Native Dancer in their blood?
@KrisandGM4Life I believe Secretariat was the last "great" racehorse without Native Dancer in his blood....Big Brown was supposed to be the next big one (Bold Ruler, Hastings (through Fair Play, Man O War and War Admiral), AND Native Dancer in his blood)...shoulda been amazing.....at least he never broke down, I keep hoping there will be another superstar
@RowdyJumper93 you are very right. unfortunatly some of them actually are prone to this stuff like Ruffian, she got a weak/soft bone gene from Native Dancer. Thank God Zenyatta didnt get it from that horse... or that would be another Queen down :(
ya i wish they would start training wen thr 4 thn strt racing wen thr 5 its rele sad to c horses like barbaro and it all heppend cuz thr to young to race but the horses enjoy it otherwise thy wudnt do it but race horses r amazing i have 1 and he is as sweet as candy and secrateriots grandson
It gives me tingles to see the Greats again the horror of the falls but knowing they died doing the thing they love..RIP Barbaro May today be the day somebody shows your sprit at the Kentucky Derby..
Also the way these horses have been bred sets them up to break down. They are bred for speed with little concern for conformation an offset cannon, bench knee, pigeon toe, etc something that looks like a superficial blemish, can cause a horse to break it's leg. Conformation 'faults' also cause a horse pain when in hard work such as a race horse is, so the trainers used pain killers and steroids, when it could be managed with joint and muscle support supplements. Quick fix kills the horse.
Its the way of the world things come things go, he was a great race horse that had a tradgic end but he will be remembered always as a great race horse.
Horse racing has been a loved sport from ancient days, doesnt mean one has to ban the sport because one doesnt like it some people dont like horses in the wild because they destroy native fauna and they want them out where does this all stop. I say leave them in the wild and if some want to race let them race.
I hope the jockey has enjoyed a very long and productive career in horse racing.
However, if breakdowns become any more commonplace, one needs to expect Congress to take some pretty bold action..... ending horse racing...
or at least forcing all horses inbred to Native Dancer to be removed from the Thoroughbred breed registry, barring them from racing. Vets who cleared Ruffian, Barbaro, Charismatic & Eight Belles for racing were clearly not qualified to make that call.
It's not the vet's fault. Those horses had steriods and pain killers injected into them and their joints, the trainers have admitted to it. What needs to be done, is a ban on the use of absolutely EVERY drug, when a horse is presented to race it should not have a trace of anything in it's system. The drugs make a horse appear sound when it can actually be carrying an injury that can only be determined by the soundness of the horse, so the horse races with this injury, and breaks a leg etc.
Eight Belles trainer admitted to it. It's common knowledge in the racing industry. Steroids and pain killers are banned in Aust. but I know they were not at the time those horses were racing in US. and everyone knew that trainers took advantage of that.
I correct myself, it was not Eight Belles, it was Stones River, a colt owned by Larry Jones and Jim Squires that tested positive for clenbuterol. I'm sorry I got it wrong. They believe it was sabotage, but it's near impossible for that to happen, only people close to the horse have the time to administer a drug like that, and the test samples that are sent off are tamper proof.
That again is wrong, there is plenty of opportunity for sabotage. It is a huge possibility that it was an employee or another track worker. Larry Jones is a very respectable man, and its because of people like you he is retiring. The racing world is losing a wonderful trainer.
i am a jockey and i was in the preakness that year when barbaro was pulled up and i have riden him before and it brought me to tears in the jocks room and i was so hurt i had to come off all my other mounts that day.
i am the proud owner of an OTTB. when i got her she was almost dead. i have never saw an animal so starved in my life and still walking. racing isn't cruel, the way they're treated when their career is over is.
Do you participate in any equestrian events? Do you know horses well enough to say that? Becuase ive been around them my whole life to know that racing is not cruel.
ive never been behind the scenes or anything and i'm sure that the horses are well taken care of, but in my book, whipping horses is unacceptable and is abuse.
well thats where you are not allowed to talk. The horses are extrememly cared for. And to lighten your term, whipping, is not a whip. its a crop and the horses's skin is thick enough as it wouldnt harm it. It's more of a tap. And jockey crops aren't as thick as riding crops, i believe
I have owned horses all my life and I know that all that the exposure to drugs, strict dieting, and stressful travels contribute to the poor conditions that race horses face. Yes, horses love to run and this sport shows that but the owners and greedy consumers make horse racing abusive. We are all open to our options and if you want to see horse racing as a joyous sport then by all means do, but for the rest of us we see it as a sport of greed and abuse.
In u.s more than 500 horses die a year because of unsafe dirt tracks because of there unsafe tracks
Nothing stops americans from racing even if the tracks are muddy and unsafe
In australia no more than 7 horses die a year because of the safe turf tracks here in australia we check tracks b4 evrey meeting to make sure they are safe for racing
it is easier if a horse falls as its like falling on grass.
First of all, muddy is not unsafe. NTRA and the track comittees of the larger tracks know what they are doing. I find it hard to believe your numbers, as you dont live in the U.S. If you didnt know, we have put synthetic surfaces on many tracks, showing we DO care about the horses.
Also, your ending statement completely contradicts what you stated above.
The true shame was Barbaro. He was really fast. At this year's kentucky derby, it broke my heart into pieces to see that pretty filly, eight belles to suffer through that. She had it worse than barbaro.
ohh he wasnt mentioned in the video, i dont really know about the horse...but apparently he had a bad breakdown at Grand National. Someone had asked if i knew what had happened.
most race horses spend 22 hrs a day in a stall. then beaten to run full speed in crowded and often poor weather conditions. then when of no further use most of them go to sales to be sold to slaughter. how can any horse lover love this terrible 'sport.'
@xXxKathxXX
His name is Barbaro. At the beginning of the Preakness a couple of years ago, Barbaro stumbled after the start of the race and broke his back ankle
bamagirl098 1 week ago
What Happened to the horse at 1:12? Its looks really bad! Oh no...
xXxKathTxXx 1 month ago
Secretariat was the greatest racehorse of all time.
Kaliegrl67 3 months ago
This may sound strange but i knew barbaro was going to hurt himself.It was sad when he did.
ruffianruleswolfrule 5 months ago
Who didnt luv Barbaro! he is amazing!
JustinBieberluver794 6 months ago
THE ONLY MISTAKE ON HERE IS BARBO ugh hated that horse
crazehpony 6 months ago
@crazehpony ummm why excatly he captured the hearts of millions he would have one the TC with ease if he didnt break his leg and he almost recovered but lamthins took his hooves and he couldnt push no more and its spelled Barbaro not BARBO
mbrhorse12 4 months ago
at 1:10 it looked like the jockey was crying
98horseluver 6 months ago
@98horseluver he was. I believe Edgar stated that in his book My Guy Barbaro.
futurejockey8 6 months ago
when i saw barbro, i started to cry cause he was my fav horse, and now he's gone forever...RIP Barbro
Thehorselover32 7 months ago
What about Eight Belles?
MichaelJs1luv96 9 months ago
@MichaelJs1luv96 Read my description. I would have put her in here if I made it after her death. This video was made a while ago.
KidmanForever 9 months ago
@SnowflakePatrol
yes i know now , :]
every sport is dangerous, sorry for makeing you guys obset saying horse raceing is cruel :]
flaka561 11 months ago
Oops, I was directing my message to the racing haters, obviously. Got confused about who was saying what.
kikiiimarieexx 11 months ago
Kidman and horselover, They WANT to run, they love it, it's in their blood, they know when they win and love to do it. Don't criticize the racing industry unless you know about it. And considering your input you obviously don't know anything about it. All equestrian sports are dangerous to horse and rider, whether it be show jumping, cross country, barrel racing etc. Are you saying everyone should stop riding all together? Please get your facts straight.
p.s. please learn how to spell.
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flaka561 1 year ago
@flaka561 I work with thoroughbred horses and they clearly were made to run. Maybe you just don't know thoroughbreds. I hate when people watch one race where a horse breaks down and assumes it a cruel sport. it's not! Everyone around these horses cares so much about them. Watch NBC's Barbaro movie and you'll see that he was put down solely because he was in so much pain. If you're going to criticise the racing industry, maybe research some more about the people and horses.
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flaka561 1 year ago
@flaka561 again. do you work with thoroughbreds? please don't assume trainers are cruel when you don't work with them and understand them. have you seen thoroughbreds in pastures? they race eachother alll the time. of course there's risk them running since their legs are fragile- does this mean we should keep them in stalls all the time and never turnout? that's a waste of life.
KidmanForever 1 year ago
@KidmanForever
well F.Y.I Im not saying you have to keep them in stalls, y dont they just stay in pastures, be treated like normal horses , go for a ride, and yes you breeders have been breeding their bones away , thats the danger in this, you know their bones are fragile, you guys know it, even you said it. PLus even the jockeys get hurt. And plus Barbara was put down bc he was in pain, first he would of never been iun pain if he never raced. or wichever horseuwas tlaking bout :/
flaka561 1 year ago
@flaka561 i wanna b TBtrainer sumday but i love western&racein plus im12XD&ive seen a few broken down horses the strangest thing is wen i leave the race track@my place my pal tells me a horse broke&fell on the track i only heard that twice i wish i coulda been there just 2save his/her life but wen im a trainer i'll let my racer ba regular horse not b in a stall cooped up but if u watch larryzapeye vids cuz hes been around Zennyatta&many others u cant tell the love&care but sum want it 4greed
Jaxton98 11 months ago
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flaka561 1 year ago
@flaka561 ok, then that's your opinion. but i would recommend watching more of the sport to see that it does not ALWAYS end badly; it rarely does. you know about eight belles and barbaro. that's great. can you name five more broken down racehorses from the top of your head? i don't think so. you'd probably be able to name more victorious horses rather than ones that have broken down.
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flaka561 11 months ago
@flaka561 Most of them dont die young. MOST of them live old. Research your facts before you make assumptions. You know Man O' War? Well did he die young? No he died when most horses ussualy die. Kay? So stop assuming this sport is cruel because its not. my god i hate people like YOU.
SecretariatFanForeva 11 months ago
@SecretariatFanForeva
ok then no need for harsh words i alredy said i was sorry, and yes u are right , yes i did kno man o war, well herd of him , he was a great horse too,
and yes horse raceing isnt a harsh sport, i was wrong bout this sport, so oyu need to shut ur trap , dnt tell me to shut up cuz i alredy did and i said my sorry's , so dont friken push it , i hate rude people like oyu too
flaka561 11 months ago
@flaka561 Most of them dont die young. MOST of them live old. Research your facts before you make assumptions. You know Man O' War? Well did he die young? No he died when most horses ussualy die. Kay? So stop assuming this sport is cruel because its not. my god i hate people like YOU. PLUS this is a sport! Would you say hockey is cruel if a famous hockey player died? I think not so shut up.
SecretariatFanForeva 11 months ago
@flaka561 Well sorry but I race horses, and my horses have all been injured one way or another, and like me, im only young, 15, but when my horse gets hurt, my whole family comes in to help, spending money on vet bills, doing whatever they can to save it. All the people we knowwork with horses one way or another with sancturies, or training. If you own a horse well and truley know what you are doing and getting yourself into, you will spend EVERY LAST PENNY in them.
ePICtWEETS 11 months ago
it was so sad when i watched it i cried
kitkat9528 1 year ago
sooooo sad
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not to be mean but at 1:09 Barbaro's jockey looked kinda like a monkey and he looked really sad like they had a close connection :( R.I.P beautiful
horsesaremylife31899 1 year ago
not to be mean but at 1:09 Barbaro's jockey looked kinda like a monkey and he looked really sad like they had a close connection :( R.I.P beautiful
horsesaremylife31899 1 year ago
wanda and ruffian r alot alike think about it
in ruffians race she (just her and another foolish plessure) but still she was beating him just by a head when she broke down
and wanda was up front and jus tinfront of the other horse when he breakdown happened, n she broker he leg 12 strides b4 she fell, that means she broke her leg just as she was racing past the flag pole ruffian was burried next to....
that kinda freaks me out just a little...
xxcrystlecityxx 1 year ago
I must say i will miss him alot his wreak was terrible! and he was so young too. you must hav put in alot of effort!
friends4ever30 1 year ago
I'm sorry you feel the way you do but understand no matter what you post on the subject, there are ppl with money you don't have that well still breed and race horses. You can remove comments that don't suit you, but that's not going to stop them from racing there horses! The only thing you can do for yourself is to stop whatching all that is putting you in that state! I love horses and I can't stop them! So stop looking at the videos that is putting you that state!
mark44134 1 year ago
Barbaro Jockey Loved Barbaro so much I wish he was still here!
ponypals100 1 year ago
they are stunning horses.... if it wasnt for the racing insdustry they wouldnt of died the way they did ... poor babies <3 rest in peace
kyro601 1 year ago
I gotta say, you chose a really good song for this video. Some people will pick songs and you're just like "wtf?" but this one works!
LehuleiLove 1 year ago 7
@LehuleiLove haha i know! thank you :)
KidmanForever 1 year ago
no horse could have ever thought about catching barbaro but they knew something was WRONG and they raced him anyway.
gobarrelracing 1 year ago
@gobarrelracing as stated in Edgar Prado's book "My Guy Barbaro": (a caption under a photo taken on the turf course at the Preakness) "He was acting strange, but not enough to cause concern" he had also never been saddled and mounted on turf before, as I recall.
-FJ8
futurejockey8 1 year ago
Barbaro is the best horse that ever lived even when i watch him race i start to cry because i miss him soo much horse racing is a awesome sport its not cruel Barbaro,Secretariat,Ruffian and lots more loved to run i love these guys and racing thats why when im older im going to be a jockey
breyergirl508 1 year ago
i reconised Ruffian as soon as she came up on screen
liljaylo96 1 year ago
FROMTHESTABLES COM great new website for information direct from the trainers.
heart106200 1 year ago
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sad fuckers moping over a horse
simonmurrayman 1 year ago
poor horse it was all broken
juicy23j 2 years ago
Go for Wind...who was he? I've heard of Go for Wand, that's a sad story, yet kinda happy since she met her goal, to get to the winner's circle.
charmed6057 2 years ago
I love eight bells !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and mine that bird he is an under dog but he is my favorte race horse
ishayabdancer 2 years ago
I LOVE BARBARO
popstar45661 2 years ago
i luved barbaro he was my fav race horse andi have read the story about ruffin its so sad. i hat it how people say horse racing is abuse when its not its a sport get over it u retards i mean these horses luv to race. p.s for thoughs of u who still think its abuse Joe talamoe the 19 year old jockey made it to the kentucky durby but his horse was scratched because her leg wasnt fully healed so ya how is that abuse in racing they do not use drugs or if they do the vets have the horse scratched.
horselover1804 2 years ago 11
@horselover1804 Those horses do take drugs btw. And by drugs I mean equine steroids.
GO302 1 year ago
@horselover1804
i think it is animal cruelty its a sport, hah like dog fighting is a sport too , and oyu say thats not animal cruelty >:'(
your not even a horse lover , if oyu were one y wont you think aobut the horse, >:/ Wen a famous horse falls, its wont get bak up , if it breaks a leg, then they have to kill it bc its no use >:/ Yea oyu say horse raceing is a sport while horses get killed in raceing. itsl ike horse sloughter . >:/
flaka561 1 year ago
wow beatiful video and great song. i dont race but i admire the people who have the guts to do it!
parkermarine21 2 years ago
Good vid i love the song!
carmzzz16 2 years ago
ohh the song is called Ocean of Memories!! its sooo beautiful
BelowZeroFarm101 2 years ago
its a song from the titanic but thats all i know XD
BelowZeroFarm101 2 years ago
loved the song<33
BelowZeroFarm101 2 years ago
so how did barbaro die?
HoNoRaTo1996 2 years ago
he shattered his leg many times by taking a wrong step, and horses need to survive on all four legs, but he developed a hoof disease in his remaining legs and needed to be put down.
KidmanForever 2 years ago
they put Barbaro down because after he was feeling better from the accident he had laminitis witch was in the three other legs of his body. Soo try having one leg just heeling and then the three other ones are sore . Soo it was tooo much , the doctors said they had to put him down. But Edgar ( Barbaro's jockey ) really didn't want that neither did anyone else but it was too much he would of suffered soo they just said bye....
nikkyspirit 2 years ago
Barbaro,Ruffian,and Go For Wand, 3 truly great racehorses
wolfstar23 2 years ago
coppolino, I agree with you. Most people in the racing industry give a damn about their horses and treat them very well. When you lose 1 it is like losing your beloved pet. I remember a gelding years ago that just won race after race but he was a claimer and had no stud value. Fortunately, a "retirement" stable had just opened that took such horses in and he retired there at the age of 8. Otherwise he would have been chopped up and served as dinner in Europe or Asia, like the fate of Exceller.
joefederico 2 years ago
Exactly! Thank you!
KidmanForever 2 years ago
The good thing about racing is that they retire early! But I guess that is only good if they are lucky to get to a nice place after. My best friend bought a horse that had been racing for 8 years! she is now taking care of him and his leg was lame since spring 2009 and she can now start to ride him when we get to January. He got the love he deserved.
pikkparis 2 years ago
wow u people have no clue about horse racing my entire family is made up of owners an trainers of race horses ive been around them since i was born u people need to realize how well we take care of our horse an the great treatment they get why dont u live a day in our shoes an tell what u think then cause u have noo clue what the hell u are talkin about when u trash the racing industry ur idiots
coppolino09 2 years ago
seriously...people who are saying these stupid things hardly spend time around horses at all, let alone TBs.
KidmanForever 2 years ago
there should be a movie about Barbaro, lije "SEabiscuit"
JaguarsShadow94 2 years ago
yeah, there should!
KidmanForever 2 years ago
I am a fan of barbaro's, i love the TB breed but by making them race we are killing these loveable animals. The frist time i felt what it was like to walk on my own without any help was on the back of a TB, that horse also taught me that being different from other people was ok bc Spook NEVER DID JUGE ME. Horses can change peoples lives if given the chance to ONE VERY SPECIAL TB DID FOR ME. Let them do for others like me and u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lovedustin71386 2 years ago
I very much agree with you. I ride a very sweet thoroughbred myself. However, I believe they were born to run, and not just that we make them, it's that they choose to. If you watch TB's in turnout, all they do is run and race eachother; i know, I see it all the time. Any equestrian sport poses danger to both riders and animals. Please do not suggest that we are "killing them" without knowing the animals you are talking about.
KidmanForever 2 years ago
wow ur right dressage and arena juping is still just as dangerous but no one seems to care about those it amazes me how quick people jump all over racing but wont see tht there are other equestrian sports tht still risk injury im all for racing but i get ticked when people bash without all the facts
runwildnfree 2 years ago
Yes, and most of the people criticizing racing are the people who just sit around on their couches and watch a breakdown like that. I'm around thoroughbreds a lot, and I know that racing isn't cruel at all. It really makes me mad when people don't have their facts straight.
KidmanForever 2 years ago
im not around thorughbreds all the time but i want to become a trainer n breeder and i know tht i would never treat my horses badly i would always do what i could for them but sumtimes breakdowns happen its not the sports fault its just an accident think about human athelets tht get injured or paralized or killed or whatever no one ever says anything about those sports
runwildnfree 2 years ago
Exactly! I'm also hoping to become a trainer(:
KidmanForever 2 years ago
awesome :D
runwildnfree 2 years ago
OK. First of all, horse racing DOES kill horses. We CHOOSE to race them. SO therefore, we CHOOSE to risk their lives. Secondly, horses do not have a say in what they do. Racing is a sport that ppl force the horses to run, whether they enjoy it or not. And although some horses like it, the ppl often push the horses way to hard. Yes, the same happens with jumps and dressage, but not as often. Those horses are not at as high a risk as track horses.
equineenthusiast93 2 years ago
And another thing, when TB horses come off the track, it is not likely that they are being given a retirement out of the goodness of their trainer. It's usually because they aren't winning races, aka making moeny. Racing IS dangerous, and shouldn't be so hard on the horses. When ppl jump a horse, they get a horse that wants to jump. Racing is different. Ppl don't care about the welfare of the horse. Maybe it's not alwayslike that, but most of the time it always is.
equineenthusiast93 2 years ago
more than 5,000 horses that were reported killed at tracks between 2003 and 2007 An animal may be perfectly fine today, but then tomorrow it doesn't feel good and you're making it race," Marquez said. "When you do a pre-race evaluation, you have a better chance of detecting injury officials are still examining what may have caused the increase, among the theories is that its ban on rear "toe grabs"shoes that contain metal spikes to aid in tractionmight have backfired HERE IS UR PROOF. RACES KILL
equineenthusiast93 2 years ago
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, the previous commetn I made was to prove that racing does kill horses and we just let it happen. Racing is horrible, IT DOES kill. SO maybe someday it will stop. But until then, above this is prove from a news article on racing
equineenthusiast93 2 years ago
thank you! it pisses me off when people are so biased to think that if its not what they do with their horse, its cruel. its wrong and stupid. only people are cruel not the discipline they choose. every discipline is safe when the proper methods are used. just like any atlete in any sport there is always risk of injury. besides most race horse injuries are actually aquired while in the pasture running around in their natural state. i know being a caretaker of harness horses.
sheedalaadie 2 years ago 4
i couldn't agree more sheedalaadie, everything is cruel what we do to horses right? only if their in a pasture it isn't cruel. i hear jumping, barrel racing, but racing the most. there is nothing we can do that is safe for a horse because we are cruel. they need to go learn a few things before opening their mouth, i've been around horses all my life. abuse is cruel, not racing or having a sport with horses.
JurseyGirl100 2 years ago
Well, if you agree with what Sheedalaadie said, you obviously did not understand. She said each equestrian sport poses a threat to both horse and rider, however horses aquire many injuries in pasture time. You claim you have been around horses all your life. Horses get hurt a lot doing things outside of sport. I thought you'd know that. Maybe you should reread her post.
KidmanForever 2 years ago
ur so dumb do u want us to go and release all the horses into the wild?! u clearly know nothing about horses, and u must hate horses cause it sure sounds like it!
Sami13p 1 year ago
@ Sami13p...... did i say we should release the horses in the wild? no. do i hate horses? its the very opposite, since i own one myself and he is the best thing that happened to me! before you go thinking youre all badass, make sure you make sense. i love my horse to death, and he loves me back. im stating that ppl have the balls to say that things we do with horses is cruel. i never said we should let them go in the wild.
JurseyGirl100 1 year ago
justslamm i totally agree i want to become a breeder/ trainer n i kno tht if i ever get started n dont burn out my horses will always be treated well n never overraced
runwildnfree 2 years ago
tragedies ? i couldn't see anyone.
katuu94 2 years ago
I am a trainer myself. And I know that there are many people out there that say horse racing is cruel. I personally, love my horses. They are well taken care of . They are athletes and and athletes are injured just as in any other sport. It is NEVER our intention. I am so excited to be back at the track
justslamm 2 years ago 3
i actualy have a Breyer horse modle of Ruffian in my model collection i absolutely love horses and am actualy begining training to become a real show jumper I hope someday that i can have a horse as great as these ones RIP Barbaro and Ruffian!
Dnangelrocksify 2 years ago
Awesome! I want to be a trainer myself!
KidmanForever 2 years ago
Its not just that there training them young. TB breeders are breeding there bones away, There breeeding for speed and size but there not keeping bone structure in mind. Were killing the TB breed and someone needs to stop it. Thats why TBs like these break there legs in races. They need to breed tough bones back into the breed again before its to late.
RowdyJumper93 2 years ago 17
def i agreee there not sturdy enough
showjumperbabe1001 2 years ago
@RowdyJumper93 Training them too young is a major factor. Doesn't matter what the breed is if you ride a horse too young and put all that pressure on it it's bones are very vulnerable to breaking.
horseracing2009 1 year ago
@RowdyJumper93 They should. They need to breed them with Quarter Horses
horsesaremylife31899 1 year ago
@RowdyJumper93 EVERY single one of these horses is from the Native Dancer line....Native Dancer is known to be the purveyor of soft bones, it's sad :( the line shouldn't carry on, other stronger lines (such as the Fair Play line that brought us Man O War, Seabiscuit and Secretariat should)...Prairie Bayou and Eight Belles also are of the Native Dancer line :(
denabluechicken 10 months ago
@denabluechicken
Love ya, Dena. Agree completely, and I already said that a while ago, didn't I? I wasn't aware that Fair Play gave us Man O' War and Seabiscuit and Secretariat. Are there any horses left without Native Dancer in their blood?
KrisandGM4Life 10 months ago
@KrisandGM4Life I believe Secretariat was the last "great" racehorse without Native Dancer in his blood....Big Brown was supposed to be the next big one (Bold Ruler, Hastings (through Fair Play, Man O War and War Admiral), AND Native Dancer in his blood)...shoulda been amazing.....at least he never broke down, I keep hoping there will be another superstar
denabluechicken 10 months ago
@RowdyJumper93 you are very right. unfortunatly some of them actually are prone to this stuff like Ruffian, she got a weak/soft bone gene from Native Dancer. Thank God Zenyatta didnt get it from that horse... or that would be another Queen down :(
ZenyattaLuvr 6 months ago
Thank you for doing Ruffin She was a great filly!
becca197234 2 years ago
No problem! Yeah, she was amazing!
KidmanForever 2 years ago
ya i wish they would start training wen thr 4 thn strt racing wen thr 5 its rele sad to c horses like barbaro and it all heppend cuz thr to young to race but the horses enjoy it otherwise thy wudnt do it but race horses r amazing i have 1 and he is as sweet as candy and secrateriots grandson
thedoitallcowgirl 2 years ago
Wow. You should really learn to spell a few words right so people can understand what you're saying.
4People1Dream 2 years ago
haha thanks
KidmanForever 2 years ago
It gives me tingles to see the Greats again the horror of the falls but knowing they died doing the thing they love..RIP Barbaro May today be the day somebody shows your sprit at the Kentucky Derby..
yamh23 2 years ago 2
Thank you so much! :)
KidmanForever 2 years ago
Ruffian was such a beautiful filly,I miss her. My great-grandma saw her run in the mother goose stakes.Sadly my great-grandma died 2 years ago. :(
RuffianRunsForever16 2 years ago
Yes, she was. Thats really cool! And im sorry :(
KidmanForever 2 years ago
the jockey was really upset if youlooke on his face
RIP BARBARO
Duncanlover04ever 2 years ago 2
Big Brown only won like he did because of steroids too.
Samwamfa 3 years ago
I agree with you on that
Ruffian4Ever 3 years ago
Big Brown was NOT on Steroids
crisco112795 2 years ago
I Mean BIg Brown was not of steroids for no reason i dont think that is what made him win like that but think like this he had messed up feet so ya
crisco112795 2 years ago
Big Brown wan't on steroids, even though i think his trainer had used them on previous horses.
KidmanForever 2 years ago
Big brown was on steroids his trainer admited it
crisco112795 2 years ago
Also the way these horses have been bred sets them up to break down. They are bred for speed with little concern for conformation an offset cannon, bench knee, pigeon toe, etc something that looks like a superficial blemish, can cause a horse to break it's leg. Conformation 'faults' also cause a horse pain when in hard work such as a race horse is, so the trainers used pain killers and steroids, when it could be managed with joint and muscle support supplements. Quick fix kills the horse.
Samwamfa 3 years ago
Its the way of the world things come things go, he was a great race horse that had a tradgic end but he will be remembered always as a great race horse.
Horse racing has been a loved sport from ancient days, doesnt mean one has to ban the sport because one doesnt like it some people dont like horses in the wild because they destroy native fauna and they want them out where does this all stop. I say leave them in the wild and if some want to race let them race.
Adonimos 3 years ago
I really agree with you here.
KidmanForever 3 years ago
All three were great racehorses that should of lived their lives to the fullest...
Horselover3994 3 years ago
i was reading the news when barbaro was in the race and the moment he broke down i was just sitting there it makes me fell so wrong
leesworld11 3 years ago
I hope the jockey has enjoyed a very long and productive career in horse racing.
However, if breakdowns become any more commonplace, one needs to expect Congress to take some pretty bold action..... ending horse racing...
or at least forcing all horses inbred to Native Dancer to be removed from the Thoroughbred breed registry, barring them from racing. Vets who cleared Ruffian, Barbaro, Charismatic & Eight Belles for racing were clearly not qualified to make that call.
Or no more racing.
englishhorndude 3 years ago
It's not the vet's fault. Those horses had steriods and pain killers injected into them and their joints, the trainers have admitted to it. What needs to be done, is a ban on the use of absolutely EVERY drug, when a horse is presented to race it should not have a trace of anything in it's system. The drugs make a horse appear sound when it can actually be carrying an injury that can only be determined by the soundness of the horse, so the horse races with this injury, and breaks a leg etc.
Samwamfa 3 years ago
Ruffian never took steriods and neither did Eight Belles. And I highly doubt Barbaro did. Get your facts straight.
Ruffian4Ever 3 years ago
No, none of them did.
KidmanForever 3 years ago
Eight Belles trainer admitted to it. It's common knowledge in the racing industry. Steroids and pain killers are banned in Aust. but I know they were not at the time those horses were racing in US. and everyone knew that trainers took advantage of that.
Samwamfa 3 years ago
You are absolutely WRONG. Larry Jones denied steroid use, and it was proven. Do some research before you make ignorant comments.
Ruffian4Ever 3 years ago
I correct myself, it was not Eight Belles, it was Stones River, a colt owned by Larry Jones and Jim Squires that tested positive for clenbuterol. I'm sorry I got it wrong. They believe it was sabotage, but it's near impossible for that to happen, only people close to the horse have the time to administer a drug like that, and the test samples that are sent off are tamper proof.
Samwamfa 3 years ago
That again is wrong, there is plenty of opportunity for sabotage. It is a huge possibility that it was an employee or another track worker. Larry Jones is a very respectable man, and its because of people like you he is retiring. The racing world is losing a wonderful trainer.
Ruffian4Ever 3 years ago
i am a jockey and i was in the preakness that year when barbaro was pulled up and i have riden him before and it brought me to tears in the jocks room and i was so hurt i had to come off all my other mounts that day.
crisco112795 3 years ago
ok..well i can believe you are a jockey.. but in the Preakness???
KidmanForever 3 years ago
i am the proud owner of an OTTB. when i got her she was almost dead. i have never saw an animal so starved in my life and still walking. racing isn't cruel, the way they're treated when their career is over is.
josbrighteststar 3 years ago
Yeah, I know many ottb's at my stable who were rescued.
KidmanForever 3 years ago
whats the song/music?
MayanDreams 3 years ago
"Ocean of Memories", from the Titanic soundtrack.
KidmanForever 3 years ago
well as i said.... take care always guyz...
elbabaeromucho 3 years ago
enjoy manood ng horse race... good luck sa lahat... ingat lang lagi mga jockey...
elbabaeromucho 3 years ago
i hate horse racing. its just animal abuse
yeahhh28 3 years ago
No it's not..
KidmanForever 3 years ago
sorry, but i cconsider whipping horses to make them do what you want abuse
yeahhh28 3 years ago
Do you participate in any equestrian events? Do you know horses well enough to say that? Becuase ive been around them my whole life to know that racing is not cruel.
KidmanForever 3 years ago
ive never been behind the scenes or anything and i'm sure that the horses are well taken care of, but in my book, whipping horses is unacceptable and is abuse.
yeahhh28 3 years ago
well thats where you are not allowed to talk. The horses are extrememly cared for. And to lighten your term, whipping, is not a whip. its a crop and the horses's skin is thick enough as it wouldnt harm it. It's more of a tap. And jockey crops aren't as thick as riding crops, i believe
KidmanForever 3 years ago
I have owned horses all my life and I know that all that the exposure to drugs, strict dieting, and stressful travels contribute to the poor conditions that race horses face. Yes, horses love to run and this sport shows that but the owners and greedy consumers make horse racing abusive. We are all open to our options and if you want to see horse racing as a joyous sport then by all means do, but for the rest of us we see it as a sport of greed and abuse.
seaturtle4 3 years ago
1 : 06 its legs broke ??
Poor Horse please stop
kodokpukimaq 3 years ago
no, he fractured three bones around his ankle
KidmanForever 3 years ago
poor horse, beautiful but sad song..
lovely made!
saarlindsey 3 years ago
thast one SAD song
poltygrl247 3 years ago
This song is from the Titanic movie
joelsterling 3 years ago
Yeah...i said that
KidmanForever 3 years ago
In u.s more than 500 horses die a year because of unsafe dirt tracks because of there unsafe tracks
Nothing stops americans from racing even if the tracks are muddy and unsafe
In australia no more than 7 horses die a year because of the safe turf tracks here in australia we check tracks b4 evrey meeting to make sure they are safe for racing
it is easier if a horse falls as its like falling on grass.
horse racing is not cruel
falls can happen in any equestion thing
all4pharlap 3 years ago
First of all, muddy is not unsafe. NTRA and the track comittees of the larger tracks know what they are doing. I find it hard to believe your numbers, as you dont live in the U.S. If you didnt know, we have put synthetic surfaces on many tracks, showing we DO care about the horses.
Also, your ending statement completely contradicts what you stated above.
KidmanForever 3 years ago
First of all
muddy is unsafe its slippery for the horses
which can lead to more of a fall
second it's good that u have put synthetic surfaces down fianlly
and third maybe not 7 but what i am getting at is turf is much safer then dirt
and especailly muddy tracks
it doesnt put as much stress on there legs and if a fall is too happen most horses dont die anyway because of the soft surface
all4pharlap 3 years ago
Grass is just as slippery, espicially when moist and 7 proves you a liar.
KidmanForever 3 years ago
According to IDA, more than 800 horses die on tracks in the United States per year - and another 3,600 are euthanized/retired due to injuries.
Since March 2007, 292 horses have died on racetracks in Ireland and France (info from Animal Aid's website).
Horse racing should be banned or at least be changed drastically.
peepchick101 3 years ago
those numbers seem really exaggerated...but whatever you want to believe..
KidmanForever 3 years ago
I wish they were exaggerated.
I used to go to horse races all the time with my grandparents when I was a kid. Who knew that it wasn't all just glamour and fame for the animals?
The information I posted earlier is from Equine Advocate, Animal Aid, and the Humane Society of the United States.
peepchick101 3 years ago
oh and put a video about AUSTRALIAN horses that have died on the track
or even tell me
all4pharlap 3 years ago
Well its too bad this is a video about American racing huh? I also do not pay attention to Australian horses so what's you point?
KidmanForever 3 years ago
The true shame was Barbaro. He was really fast. At this year's kentucky derby, it broke my heart into pieces to see that pretty filly, eight belles to suffer through that. She had it worse than barbaro.
annathefruitloop 3 years ago
f*ck ! That music! Now I have to see Titanic yet again! :) Great music!
shairaptor 3 years ago
yeah ikr! but i dont think they included this song in the movie. i found it on the cd
KidmanForever 3 years ago
1:12, WTF ar they doing?
patav2 3 years ago
They're getting him off of his feet so he can't get anymore injured
KidmanForever 3 years ago
that pic is when Barbaro had his surgery on his leg.
horses2ride 3 years ago
yup....
KidmanForever 3 years ago
what about eight belles
american9111 3 years ago
i made this a long time before she died.. if i had time i would make more..but....
KidmanForever 3 years ago
Nice video ;)
patriisss 3 years ago
Thanks!
KidmanForever 3 years ago
what is the little pen the horse is in at like :18? looks pretty unsafe.. but what do i know?!
and at 1:09-- that picture is heartbreaking!
good video
VegHead94 3 years ago
It's Barbaro in a fenced area.. Just room for him to move around and roll.
But thanks!
KidmanForever 3 years ago
like a corral i guess. LOL. And yeah, that picture is so sad :(
KidmanForever 3 years ago
about the video and coup landing
himozo 3 years ago
ohh he wasnt mentioned in the video, i dont really know about the horse...but apparently he had a bad breakdown at Grand National. Someone had asked if i knew what had happened.
KidmanForever 3 years ago
can somebody explain a bit
himozo 3 years ago
about what?
KidmanForever 3 years ago
coup landing died at the 2005 grand national fence 17 fractured ankle was ethuanised on the course
merkzdotmelon 3 years ago
most race horses spend 22 hrs a day in a stall. then beaten to run full speed in crowded and often poor weather conditions. then when of no further use most of them go to sales to be sold to slaughter. how can any horse lover love this terrible 'sport.'
baguagal 3 years ago
They were all great champs! RIP Go For Wand, Barbaro, and Ruffian!!!
Do you know about the tragedy of Coup Landing?
RidingWithRuffian 3 years ago