The Amazing Atheist's "Rick Santorum" Video is Bullshit [Part 1]

[SmileyPsycho1]

marriage is simply a mental "next step" of relationships. Its not completly religous becuz peace of the courts or whatever or even a judge can wed couples

[SmileyPsycho1]

nice hair LMAO

[iFlyCam2794]

Ladies: contain your orgasms...

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 Thank you so much for your emotional support.

[tstruss912]

Ok, this is it...can't take anymore after the 9 minute mark. "History has determined what marriage is." You said that. OK, so whatever tradition is established should be respected even if it infringes on civil liberties? These are the same arguments used for SLAVERY. "Defenders of slavery argued that slavery had existed throughout history and was the natural state of mankind."

That's from the FIRST FUCKING PAGE that comes up when you type in "old arguments for slavery". Do you ever think?

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 [part 4] Hmm, may I ask you something?

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 Oh hey, once you're done reading my latest wave of reply posts, do you we could continue this conversation via email? It's frustrating and confusing to have big discussions like this on Youtube. My email is,

the.great.davoo@gmail.com

[tstruss912]

ahhh...you're killing me. I can't watch a minute without being blasted by bullshit. Jesus was a liberal. Get it? So how would society becoming more liberal be unchristian? Yet another point where you make no fucking sense. Did you even read the bible? I don't mean to be harsh, but damn. You American Christians have really gone off the deep end. In Europe Christians balance empathy and preserving order....just like the new and old testament, respectively. See? I hope so...

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 [part 3] What was it about Jesus that made him a Liberal? There were some things he said about generosity (not as mandated by the government however; that is an important distinction), but then there's positive things he said about commerce and private property. Take a look at Matthew Chapter 20 to see a parable he told saying that employers can set whatever pay they want to give to their employees.

[tstruss912]

@TheDavoo "What was it about Jesus that made him a Liberal?" 

He also believed in:

--usury

--giving all your shit to the poor

--loving your enemy

--sacrifice your life for your Christianity

--that we shouldn't judge

--do unto others as you would have them do unto you

He was a human being and therefore you have to look at the big picture: he was a FLAMING LIBERAL, probably somebody who would live in San Francisco.

That's why the bible is good: the balance between right and left.

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 [damnit I forgot to keep numbering my posts here]

u·su·ry

1. The illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.

2. Interest at such rates.

That doesn't sound very liberal to me. It doesn't sound very conservative either, for that matter.

"giving all your shit to the poor"

You're acting as if I didn't already bring that up and explain why it's a misunderstanding.

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 "loving your enemy"

Elaborate.

"sacrifice your life for your Christianity"

What does that have to do with liberalism? If Rick Santorum went up and said 'I would die for my faith if I had to!', that be a liberal thing to say?

"that we shouldn't judge"

So are you proposing a government system with no courts, judges or police officers? Or... well, regulation, for that matter?

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"

What does conservatism do/say that violates that?

"probably somebody who would live in San Francisco."

He was born in an alley next to a crackhead, for there was no room in any of the apartments thanks to rent control laws.

"That's why the bible is good: the balance between right and left."

Are you a liberal, or a 'moderate'?

[tstruss912]

ah man, you don't understand anything about the human mind, do you. Go look up the studies and literature on conservative thinking/framing. These silly ideas you have: "free" markets work; gays will collapse society into chaos; etc, etc--they're all bullshit, as proven by reality, and they come from your subconscious fears and how your mind automatically frames issues. I'm not gonna waste time explaining it. If you want to come out of your mental retardation then you'll do it yourself.

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 [part 2] "These silly ideas you have: "free" markets work;"

Define a free market.

"gays will collapse society into chaos"

And you eat oatmeal with your bellybutton.

[tstruss912]

@TheDavoo "Define a free market." First of all, the term "free" is thrown in there because it DOES represent the conservative view of freedom, but sure as fuck not the liberal view of freedom. I use the term "unregulated market" or "cowboy market". You said we had too many regulations. False. We have some that need to be dismantled and some that need to be installed. You have no right to destroy the planet. You can use it, but you can't destroy it.

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 [part 1] Well actually; regulations and rule of law are required for free market capitalism to work, while they also happen to be the bread and butter of abusive and/or totalitarian regimes. It takes a lot of time, thought and education to know good regulation from bad regulation. It's never going to be perfect but we don't want our elected officials to be making bad ones deliberately for the sake of obtaining power.

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 [part 2] "You have no right to destroy the planet. You can use it, but you can't destroy it."

You know who agrees with you?

Do a Youtube search for "Rick Santorum face the nation" then watch the first video on the list, and you'll hear Rick pretty much saying what you just said.

At the end of the day, I guess we all have a little bit of frothy lube-shit in our hearts.

[tstruss912]

@TheDavoo ....So, we need environmental regulations since the next generation deserves to live from this earth too. We also need banking regulations. Do you understand how banks work? Go read up on them. They basically create the vast majority of money in a society...and they do so for profit. That's fine as long as they divert unused money to USEFUL THINGS. They've proven over and over that they can't do that without regulations, and then we HAVE TO bail them out.

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 I already briefly touched on this before, but you seem to be confusing conservatism with anarchy.

[tstruss912]

@TheDavoo ...I know many people talk about how we can just let businesses fail...that's not true when it comes to the institutions that create our money supply. It would be a fucking disaster. Banks know that; politicians know that; and everybody else should know that. So, we need banking regulations.  I could go on and on. There are many regulations we need, and there are some we can get rid of. You really have to think these things through thoroughly before implementing policy.

[tstruss912]

@TheDavoo This is a free country so you can ask me whatever you want. But please answer this: Where did the term "job creator" come from?

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 Okay, here's my question: do you believe that basic healthcare is a human right?

Yako, here's my answer: I don't know, to see time fly?

[tstruss912]

Uhhh...OK, so if gays make their own religion that says they can get married, then it is OK? What if a religion is founded in America that says that marriage is only between a man and a cow? Some religions say we can marry many women, so that must be OK, right? You make no sense. We have freedom FROM religion. I get to live without your stupid fucking religion in my life and so can gays. That's how a society with many religions works. Get it?

[TheDavoo]

@tstruss912 [part 1] I'm not super duper sure about the gay marriage issue myself, and it's certainly not an important issue right now compared to other things.

Also, I should let you know that Barack Obama is also against gay marriage. I don't know if you voted for him or not, but I just want you to know that.

[ogmaster1]

Care to rethink your argument here considering the latest bunch of psycho babble that's coming from Santorum?

[TheDavoo]

@ogmaster1 In fact, I shot another rebuttal over a week ago but dropped it. The thing is, TJ's newest Rick video doesn't even have hardly an ounce of substance in it; the original at least had quotes, as flawed and dishonest as they were. But the format of my new rebuttal followed the same 'point-by-point logic and fact' format as the old one, and it didn't make sense.

I thought about trying again with a more 'wtf is wrong with you??' approach, and now that there's some demand, I will. Thanks!

[TheDavoo]

@ogmaster1 Oh wait, dammit, I completely misread your message. I guess when I hear "bunch of psycho babble", I immediately think of The Amazing Atheist.

Well hey, could YOU care to tell me what it is that he said that's so psychotic?

[ogmaster1]

@TheDavoo How about the recent talk that 10% of elderly people in the Netherlands get euthanized and they have to wear wristbands that say "please don't kill me" for starters.

[TheDavoo]

@ogmaster1 Oh man, that's pretty insane if it's untrue. Can you give me a link to where he said that?

[ogmaster1]

@TheDavoo Here you go - washingtonpost dot c o m/blogs

/fact-checker/post/euthanasia-­in-the-netherlands-rick-santor­ums-bogus-statistics/2012/02/2­1/gIQAJaRbSR_blog.html

This also has the original video and the facts to disprove what Santorum said.

Sorry you'll have to peace it together because cant post a link

[TheDavoo]

@ogmaster1 [part 1] Well damn! After months and months of people trying to pin something on him; of liberals taking anything he says horrifically out of context; of some people just making shit up, there's finally something that actually looks LEGITIMATE. Well it's about time.

[TheDavoo]

@ogmaster1 [part 2] Well, if the Santorum campaign doesn't rescind that comment or clear something up, I might have to switch over to Newt.

But even as it is, I'm still much, much more afraid of a president who doesn't blink as he forces all insurance companies to provide services that their faith is against; who stomps on and crushes religious liberty into microscopic pieces, than I am of a president who believes stupid things about the Netherlands.

[ogmaster1]

@TheDavoo Well I'm all for putting forth some pressure on religions cause frankly, they've been giving us non-religious, or atheist in my case, a hard time. Too much in this country is decided on faith rather than laws.

As for that one Netherlands thing, Santorum is a religious nut which is scary. It's hard to gauge how puritanical he is with his actual beliefs, which is scary, or if this is an act and he doesn't believe any shit, which is just scummy.

[TheDavoo]

@ogmaster1 1: So you're against freedom of religion?

2: Like I said, this is literally the first thing I've ever heard Rick say that actually was anywhere near crazy. So I guess he's been holding back his true self until now, for some arbitrary reason.

[ogmaster1]

@TheDavoo I'm up for freedom of religion or lack of religion. In that sense, we should see gay marriage legal in every state, abortion not being an issue, and a variety other vices that the church have been fighting against to become legal, but we don't because too many politicians want to cater to the religious rather than follow the law. 

[TheDavoo]

@ogmaster1 What is your opinion on the 'abortion, contraception mandate' issue? I thought you were going to tell me.

[ogmaster1]

@TheDavoo The religious groups in this country have the benefit of not worrying about taxes because they have the kind of pull to prevent any politicians from revoking that bonus they have. If they can't realize that distributing contribution is done by the government in the same way. Unless Catholics follow allow the rules in their book that state people being killed for working on the sabbath and other craziness, then they can get over this moral dilema.

[TheDavoo]

@ogmaster1 I certainly agree that religious institutions should not be given a leg up on tax treatments. In fact, I'm against almost all exemptions entirely, because--like you said--it basically allows the government to manufacture and influence our life. Go to Rick Santorum dot com and you can find his tax plan. It doesn't even mention churches at all.

[ogmaster1]

@TheDavoo You'll be delusional to think for one second that Santorum could start taxing the religious groups. He's pandering to them the hardest and is their candidate.

[TheDavoo]

@ogmaster1 So, any president that doesn't remove the tax exemptions for religion is a big religious nut?

[ogmaster1]

@TheDavoo No, any President that believes that the country is in the grips of Satan like Santorum does, is a religious nut.

[anjikiske]

@TheDavoo Yes. There's no logical reason for religion to be exempt from tax. Ever.

[TheDavoo]

@anjikiske So then Obama is a religious nut, and so I guess we don't have anything to lose if Rick Santorum is our president.

[anjikiske]

@TheDavoo I'm not saying Obama's right on tax exemption for religion either. I think religion is an obsolete concept.

[TheDavoo]

@anjikiske And you also think that Obama is a religious nut.

[TheDavoo]

@anjikiske And you also think that Obama is a religious nut.

[TheDavoo]

@anjikiske And you also think Obama is a religious nut.

[TheDavoo]

@anjikiske And you also think that Obama is a religious nut

[TheDavoo]

@pumarunner88 Sorry; facts take time, dishonest nonsense is quick.

Thank you for openly confessing that TJ is wrong and that I am right.

[zoogal09]

TJ never said the Lord of the Rings reference didn't make sense. He said it was fucking stupid, because it is. Why are you even defending Rick Santorum? He is a stupid fuck.

[TheDavoo]

@zoogal09 So yep, that's it. Rick Santorum said something stupid. That means he is stupid and unqualified for president. Simple as that.

[qRaynep]

That is quite possibly the worst haircut in the history of forever.

[ThePunisherNWO]

fucking loser hippy troll

troll harder hippy

[TheDavoo]

@ThePunisherNWO I can't possibly be a hippy; I like corporations and think peace is often made through war.

[republikofnfld]

Get a fucking haircut.

[sidarthabuddha]

there's no reason to post link or anything. that'd be pointless. it'd be easier to fucking click on the search bar about the video and look it up yourself! did you even think about ANYTHING before you spent 3 days doing your hair and not worrying about what you were going to say in your videos?

[sidarthabuddha]

And no links/backup/etc? you don't either. why don't you post the links to prove him wrong you little dick sucking faggot.

[TheDavoo]

@sidarthabuddha That sentence is so purely, insanely wrong that I'm not even mad, on two major levels.

1: I DO have links. They're right there in the description, clearly titled. I'm forced to assume that you don't know what clicking on the 'show more' button does.

2: I prefer coddling the balls.

[sidarthabuddha]

i'd post the links i found if youtube would let me. you win this time because you suck youtube's dick. again, all the quotes which i found (and i hear i'm stupid a lot from cock sucking faggots such as yourself) in 5 fucking minutes, every single thing TJ quoted by rick, all by typing it in google for myself. ANYONE can fucking do it. there's no need to post links for proof when you're ALREADY on the fucking internet. people like you ruin our country.

[TheDavoo]

@sidarthabuddha My email is the.great.davoo@gmail.com

Send the links you found (that all apparently prove wrong all the links I provided) there

[sidarthabuddha]

Can you please quit saying "uh uh uh you know uh uh uh uh uh uh uh" and FUCKING KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR FUCKING WORTHLESS MOUTH. that is all.

[TheDavoo]

@sidarthabuddha I had a lengthy document of notes on my computer that I was occasionally reading from. Sorry, but I don't have the years of video logging experience TJ has.

[RedthePersona]

Who the hell would really watch this in it's entirety?

PS. Your hair looks like shit.

[TheDavoo]

@RedthePersona People who are okay with believing in TJ's absolute lies. People who are okay with being wrong.

[TheDavoo]

@RedthePersona I looked at your channel and saw that you 'liked' the Rick Santorum video. So that just about proves it; you aren't even trying to deny it; you willingly accept lame-brained misinformation as fact and will deliberately avoid any source of information that attacks the information and violates your precious, imaginary world.

Or you just think TJ is funny. Which he is...

[TorryDidntDoAnything]

I like your hair

[laxdjd]

Anyone who doesn't like theamazingatheist is a friend of mine, that guy is insane and so unintelligent that it is embarrassing to know he is a fellow man.

[TheDavoo]

@laxdjd I'll have to be honest that he's somewhat entertaining to me, especially his unpolitical stuff. He's fun to watch because of his sheer arrogance and confidence, but that same disregard for reality pisses me off when it causes him to shit on good stuff.

[adilmohamedhameed]

let me get this straight... your saying to be "unchristian" in action is to be unethical?! what about the rest of the 6.5 billion people that habitates the remainder of the planet? are they all bad people because they dont follow the same doctorine of the diety/god/entity/ect. as the majority of the united states? p.s listen to thatsmyrail and get yourself a better haircut.

[TheDavoo]

@adilmohamedhameed Being unchristian tends to be unethical, in this culture, in America, in the modern times. If someone chooses to not be Christian (or any other religion), they will be more likely to do bad things. Seriously dude, you keep strawmanning no-uncertain terms onto the basic argument.

Furthermore, I have to wonder why you and like three other guys are dwelling almost completely on this one issue. Guess you can't even make crap up that even remotely defends TJ in the other points.

[adilmohamedhameed]

@TheDavoo dude.. your an idiot.

[TheDavoo]

@adilmohamedhameed Let me make this clear: nobody is saying that atheists approve of child molestation. I'll just run this simple idea by you one last time:

The culture at large becomes less ethical > people are more likely to do unethical things > Catholic priests molest boys.

I don't entirely want to be condescending here, but this is an awfully simple concept that you seem to be drastically over-complicating.

[adilmohamedhameed]

I don't know where you got the idea that people who are immoral tend to be atheist because history has shown time and time again that faith (or lack of) is no indication of ones moral status. secondly I would like to point out that there is a difference between morals and ethical behavior. the term "moral" is subjective and can imply good or bad, while to be ethical only implies the former. thirdly, if a catholic priest is conservative and rapes children, isnt he just a fucked up conservative?

[TheDavoo]

@adilmohamedhameed This what Rick Santorum says: the culture becomes unethical (thank you for the vocabulary lesson), therefore, some people are going to do unethical things. How is this so hard to understand?

[thatsmyrail]

Why are you trying to make up lame excuses for Rick Santorum. He should become a cult leader of some obscure protestant sect, not the president of the most powerful country in the world. His puritan 16th century view on social matters is off the hook. And don't take this as an insult, but get a decent haircut please, just saying.

[TheDavoo]

@thatsmyrail So I guess you didn't watch the whole video. Good.

[thatsmyrail]

@TheDavoo The first part only (21 minutes). It was quite hard to remain focussed all the way, I have to admit.

[TheDavoo]

@thatsmyrail Such is the way of the ideology you subscribe to. Take the high road and cut yourself off of the terrible untruths and the people who actually believe in them.

[TheDavoo]

@thatsmyrail Also, I just noticed this, but you said he should become the cult leader of 'some obscure protestant sect', Rick Santorum is a Catholic. For someone so critical of Santorum's 'puritan views', you sure don't know much about them.

[thatsmyrail]

@TheDavoo Ok, got me there, bravo. You know, I'm a catholic too, on paper that is. Religious fundamentalism is present in al parts of christianity, and in the US it's off the hook. Why would I dig deeper into the policies of RS, when his statements and one-liners alone send shivers down my spine. He's a first class ultra-conservative nut with values that don't fit in this modern time. He's intolerant towards everything that doesn't fit within his narrow mind.

[TheDavoo]

@thatsmyrail I suspect you know almost nothing about him that's true. You really, really can't just shake off having not even known what his religion is and then still pretend you know who he is, what he's said or what he believes in. Do some research, then come back.

[thatsmyrail]

@TheDavoo So I lost all my crudentials because I was on the wrong branch of christianity. Maybe you should stick to the point. Please, tell me where I'm wrong if I say that this man would abuse his conservative views to impose laws on minorities he disagrees with on a moral level whether it are gays, muslims etc instead of acting all smug and self-righteous.

[TheDavoo]

@thatsmyrail "So I lost all my crudentials because I was on the wrong branch of christianity."

You'll get your crud-entials back when you start saying things that are true.

"tell me where I'm wrong if I say that this man would abuse his conservative views to impose laws on minorities he disagrees with on a moral level whether it are gays, muslims"

You're wrong because none of that is true! Other than gay marriage. What are these laws he wants to impose? What freedoms does he want to take away?

[thatsmyrail]

@TheDavoo Ok, correct the following statements. He is an arch-imperialist who wants the US to take control all over the world. He would invade Iran if he could. He also takes an extreme pro-life stance when it comes to abortion. He would also be the guy to restrain the internet. And last but not least he would be a threat to the secularity of the US govt.

[TheDavoo]

@thatsmyrail [part 1]

"correct the following statements"

I'll try.

"He would invade Iran if he could."

He would do whatever it takes to disarm America's violent enemies to protect our freedom, which may include some amount of invasion of Iran.

"He takes an extreme pro-life stance when it comes to abortion."

Thank god he does. Here's the real question: why are people only people when they're not connected to their mother?

[TheDavoo]

@thatsmyrail [part 2]

"He would also be the guy to restrain the internet."

Watch. My. Video.

"...he would be a threat to the secularity of the US govt"

This proves without doubt that you do not know enough about Rick Santorum to be talking about him. He believes in the first amendment; which provides the freedom of religion. As one who doesn't really believe in any kind of God, I couldn't ask for more.

[TheDavoo]

@thatsmyrail [part 3]

"He is an arch-imperialist who wants the US to take control all over the world."

:\

...dude, just dude.

Here, correct THESE following statements: You shove corn husks up your ears. Your cousins take pictures of you while you sleep. Your sister has the ability of ice breath.

See I can just make shit up and ask you to tell me it's wrong.

[grizzlyuppercut]

Marriage was originally a social institution, NOT a religious institution. The fact you oppose people "changing the meaning of the ritual" is ignorant of the fact that religion changed the meaning of the ritual.

[TheDavoo]

@grizzlyuppercut The fact that it changes so much is why I'm in favor of making it unofficial.

[adilmohamedhameed]

I would go on but like the guy underneath me (pun intended) implied, no one in their right minds would be willing to watch this crappy response video in its entirety.

[TheDavoo]

@adilmohamedhameed I have to admit you're right; facts and truths are boring, while a hate-fueled rant structured on misinformation as told by a bombastic rotten egg who doesn't give a shit is great entertainment!

[adilmohamedhameed]

there are so many things wrong with your reasoning and logic in this video that I dont even know where to begin.. first off marriage is more than a "christian establishment" it has grown to possess legal implications involving taxes and so on, secondly your logic that liberalism ultimately led to decision made by the priest to molest children is TOTAL BULLSHIT. so what your saying is that a liberal society,that is a society of HUMAN BEINGS of whom are liberal, ARE OK WITH MOLESTING CHILDREN?!

[TheDavoo]

@adilmohamedhameed 1: I'm also against most of marriage's legal implications.

2: Christianity bases itself as being 'moral'. People who are very 'IMmoral' tend to be atheists (kinda like me) as it frees them of the fear of hellfire (outside than it being logical). The political beliefs of atheists on an individual level tend to be that of liberals (beside exceptions, naturally). Thus, the connection. Don't claim I'm calling liberals pro-child abuse; it's 'unChristianness' in general.

[ChaosMaster7]

George Washington, are you off your meds again?

[TheDavoo]

@ChaosMaster7 Jon Stuart, are you still trying to act 'neutral'?

[lukeaaronpopiel]

you look really cool. i bet lot's of people are gonna watch this video in its entirety.

[TheDavoo]

@lukeaaronpopiel Thanks, but you forgot to acknowledge my sexy voice.