ЭТО НЕ ГИМН ЛИТВЫ! Этот гимн выдуман лживыми злыми западными сатанистами в Лондоне, Париже и Германии. Настояший гимн Литвы это гимн Советской Литвы так как именно Советским гимном Литвы литовцы гнали пенками фашистов сатанистов! За всю историю Литвы Гимн Советской Литвы и флаг Советской Литвы приносил победу и счастье литовцам за всю историю Литвы только в СССР Литва цвела как цветок, сегодня Литва стала супер маркетом и барделем для западных шакалов! Да Здравствует Советская Литва!
Thank you for this video. Beautiful anthem, and let's hope things will go better. Hate will never make things better, and the people fighting is not going to either. Long live Lithuania!
@fantasy7004 Again u, idiot. R u menatlly sick or what?? I really don't care, go and burn ur self for Poland, ur ritch country (even though polish ppl u can find in UK, Ireland, Norway and etc. on each and every corner), but do not share ur fucking opinion about the thing which u really don't know and understand.
I lived in Lithuania for two years - never again. Now live in Estonia which is MUCH better, despite having the same starting point (in fact harder for Estonia). Lithuania is a dreadful little place, a combination of the crapest aspects of Russia and Poland with none of the charm. Even a good proportion of Lithuanians know this and go to places like my homeland (UK) to do things like blow themselves up with illegal stills or cut people's heads off. Charming place.
i never heard this shit because you have no achievements in sports or anything.stop persecuting polish minority and give back our polish lands and city wilno soviet retards.
@norffolkk2 Check out some achievements in basketball :) Not to mention the strongest man in the world lives in Lithuania. What did the good ol' Poles achieve? :P
@norffolkk2 "no achievments in sports" Your Joking right? We won first place in the FIBA European Championship Three times, not to mention third place in the Fiba World Championships last year. Also in the FIBA Under-19's World Championship we won first place and third place three times at the olympic games. We are ranked fifth in the FIBA world rankings. If that is not enough Zydrunas Savickas won 2009's Worlds Strongest Man competition and competes every year. We are 37th in FIFA world ranks.
@norffolkk2 you polish nazis dont know what your talking do you? we won the eurobasket 3 times and WE CAN KICK YOUR MOTHERF*****G ASS IN EVERY SPORT. FUCK YOU BITCH!
"Dlatego ze dzisejsza Litwa nie ma nic wspolnego z ta Slowianska ,z ktora Polacy mieli Unie,Tamta Litwa to dzisiejsza Bialorus,dzisiejsza Litwa to antypolski nazistowski motloch baltycki ,ktory nie powienien byc spadkobierca historii tamtej Litwy"
HY i pytamy, dlaczego litewski "anty-polska sprawa"
1.then wouldn't it be wise for you to be one who stops that use of different languages in improper places.
"If someone hits us, then we HAVE to hit him back". Such thinking is foolish, don't you think so?
2. well, yes. But it's Lithuania's Anthem. I'm not saying that this means that all the comments must be in Lithuanian. Just that all this fighting began when someone wrote something insulting about Lithuania. I mean... Do you HAVE TO write "Wilno naszie" to everything that's...
2. "Wilno/Lithuania nasze" is related with Lithuania, but in that problem it's a problem between Poland and Lithuania, so we should speak language acceptable for both users.
And tell me: do you have to offend Poles and opress polish minorty?
nezinau ko jums reikia .viskas prasidejo no sausio sukilimo ,nematau prasmes kelti ginciu nes jie zlugdo,kartu Lietuva ir Lenkija sukure nenugalima imperja pries kuria lenkesi vokeciai ir rusai,gincai sukelia tai jog tos salys dabar mumi valdo
Nie wiem o co Wam chodzi w tej dyskusji zaczęło się od Powstania Styczniowego takie animozje, kłótnie to ruina, razem w Federacji Polska i Litwa zbudowałą Imperium niezwyciężone, niemcy i rosjanie kajali się przed nami, a te kłótnie powodują, że oba kraje nami rządzą ;/
No to powiedz to o Białorusinach. Bo WKL składało się w głównej mierze ze Słowian, przodków Białorusinów, a w XVIII w. jedynym co odróżniało Polaka od Białorusina była religia (Katolicyzm/Prawosławie)
Need to see what lies beneath?Need to go a little deeper?intuition, healing powers, it is all part of human nature.THE-HIDDEN-SPIRITdotCOM it is time to wake up.
Lietuva is the great country. This nation deserves a monument with his strength and liberty will during the Soviet occupation. Also I am proud of our mutual history of the Great Lithuanian County. Long live Great Lietuva!!!!
I can proudly say " I AM LITHUANIAN". I don't car about foreign people, but then they talk nonsence and shit about Lithuania I can't stay still. Many Lithuanians can speak Russian, because Lithuania was occupied by USSR and this occupation continue 50 years. Some forgot or didn't know, but in Lithuania since 1945 to 1953 was guerilla war against USSR.
In 1918 February 16 independence act mark that Vilnius is a capital city of Lithuania. So in 1920m. Poland made aggression act.
@Tulziukas I see that you can you discuss normally. Lets hold our points of view to history. You can hold your Lithuanian I will hold my Polish. It does not metter becouse is only history. In 1920 Poles had majority in Wilno and it was Polish city. After War due to Stalins decision Poles were forced to leave Wilno. Now Vilnius is your capital and I have nothing against it. We demand only rights for our minority (surnames education property). Lithuanian citizens with Polish nationality=OK.
@antyrezun hey, does Poland let Russians or Lithuanians have their names written using cyrillic or Lithuanian alphabet? no...? Thought so.
The mere fact that Vilnius had majority of Poles doesnt mean shit. There are parts of Poland that has Lithuanian majority, there are parts around Vilnius that has Polish majority. Does that mean that the respective parts should join Poland/Lithuania? We have grown tired of hearing Polish moans and complaints all while closing Lithuanian schools in Poland :)
@CheaterNLaw Did you read what i wrote. First read later answer. I sad that our borders are not changeable. Poland has no teritorial demands towards Lithuania. Our countries are in UE. Instead of Wilno Grodno and Lwów we have Wrocław, Szczecin and Gdańsk. This borders are result of Stalins decision. As I know Lithuanians can use their letters in surnames in Poland, have education and property. We expect only the same for Polish minority in Lithuania. Respect and be respected. Think about it.
@antyrezun "As I know Lithuanians can use their letters in surnames in Poland, have education and property. " On passports? No. They cant. The same way they cant have cyrillic on Polish passports. Are you going to do something about it? It is downright ridiculous to expect your alphabet to be adopted by a foreign country. Respect and be respect indeed.
@antyrezun did you know that polish around vilnius really aren't polich they are polonized lithuanians, they even can't speak polish properly, have ever hear them?,they call themselves (tuteishis) we call them "shudlenkis" - (shitpol),
@antyrezun only you slavs (russian and polish) have created that kolkhoz, lithuanians were fighting 1945-1965 against kolchoz, but you slaves of russians accespted kolchoz at once- in 1945
@Divirix1 You were fighting against soviets. Do not make me laugh. In 1940 you have at once surrended to red army like in 1945. Poland fought in 1939 against two agresors from 1 september with nazi germans and from 17 september with soviet bolshevics. You know nothing about our history. You have only your anti-polish propaganda. It is your choice to live with us in conflict. For what. Ask yourself why you use povocative language towards Poland. Have you some problem. Respect and be respected.
@antyrezun our government refused to fight against soviets. The people didn't. The president at the time wanted to resist, but the government didn't agree. So we fought a partisan war and those willing and able fought with germans hoping to reclaim their country.. And we didn't surrender to the red army in 1945, because Lithuania wasn't even an independent country. You know nothing of our history either.
@Muzzrack I know nothing about your history, You know nothing about our history. Just like our politics. Keep you point of view and I will keep my point of view, Just like our politics. Nothing will change. Satisfyed.
"1945-1965"-good job. Last soldier of II RP fighting with Communism was killed in 1963, but he was fighting from 1939.
"kolkhoz"-Bolscheviks created that and brought here.
"but you slaves of russians"-just pitful, when Lithuanian speaks like that to Pole. When we were fighting against red shit, you were their allies. And what is more, you should remember, that if not Soviets, you wouldn't have Wilno.
So, if Poland would that time declare independence with capital in Moscow or Chicago, that meant, that Russia or USA should give them to us?
"So in 1920m. Poland made aggression act."-you probably talks about Żeligowski (October 1920)? Well, I must informy you, that we kicked BOLSCHEVIKS out of Wilno in 1919. You did nothing. In 1920, 07.VII polish army were retreating because of Bolscheviks. Who helped Bolscheviks and attacked PL army from back? Lithuania? Who made first step then?
In 1919 Lithunian army was young. In that year Lithuania had another enemy from north West Russian Volunteer Army or Bermontians. Since Lithuania begining Vilnius was in Lithuania majority.
Watch maps where is Lithuania Duchy and Poland Kingdom in XV-XVI centuries and watch maps from XVII and XVIII century and you will see where was Vilnius
I know that in 1569 was Liublin Union, but LT and PL had different territories.
@khulik I am sorry that i didn' answer in you question. So i try to. LT in 1920 May started talk with Soviet RUS and in 1920 12th of July were wrote peace as known Moscow peace. With this pease Soviet RUS accepted that LT is independet country with capital city Vilnius. Yes Lithuania army attacked PL army, because PL army was in LT and LT army reclaimed engaged territories by PL. First step made PL because they engaged Vilnius side. Vilnius side was accsepted by The Entente since 1918m.
@khulik Backstabbing. no. I think you agree with me that At that time was war and in war there is no rules. But PL and LT wrote Suwałki Agreement in October 7, 1920. This is backstabbing, though LT and PL made peace, PL still capture Vilnius side.
I am soryy about that disorted fact about PL army.
OK PL took Vilnius side, but why PL opress Lithuanians? I don't want sabotage history, but not only LT historians tell about opression by Żeligowski. PL historian P. Losowsky wrote about that war.
...and on the next day Żeligowski made action (which was planned by Piłsudski). But do you think, that he was planning everything a day earlier? I don't think so. He planned it much earlier, and when he started action (the same day) he would know nothing about agreement.
Opressions you say? So, tell me, where did 300000 PL from Kowno (Kaunas) and Lauda (Liaudė) disappeared? Because it's for sure not only Soviet work. And tell me, why there are reppresions against our minorty today?
@khulik reppressions against your minority? You mean the one's that the polish people are making up? Most of polaks don't even know the lithuanian language while living in Lithuania and are requiring to make it a national language. Besides, take a look at the polonization at Suvalkai and other ethnic lithuanian regions in poland. Lithuanian schools are being shut down every few months. Not mentioning that you can barely call them lithuanian schools. So you can stop talking about repressions mate
1.Don't use "polaks". Do you know, it's an insult?
2.These ones, with which I was talking about could without special programe translate me everything from Delfi.
3."Suvalkai and other ethinc..."-according to map, ancient Aukstotians (Lithuanians) had land to Niemen. So, what are you f*** about "Lithuanian Suwałki" when you have to give back land of Jaćwingowie, and Skalowowie?
@khulik Ancient aukstotians were a baltic tribe that was unified with the rest of the baltic tribes (except for prussians and latgalians). And even now they live by their traditions, unique to the region and aren't really angry about the fact that most balts were unified, because separate they would have been massacred by the livonian and teutonic knights, which Poland have invited. Not even mentioning the following conflicts with other enemies.
You were trying to unificate with you Belarusians, but they unificaed you and later Lithuanians (Slavs) unificated with Poles (other Slavs). This your nation calls "colonisation".
"which Poland have invited."-if Poland would not invited Teutons, Prussians would massacrate Masovia.
@khulik Grand Duchy of Lithuania had both Belorussian and Ukrainian territories. That doesn't mean all nations were being unificated. Only the balts have been while king Mindaugas was in reign. Other nations have been untouched. Even tartars and crimean karaites which were muslims. And later union of Lublin you speak of wasn't signed willingly by lithuanians. And we don't call it colonization. We and historians call it polonization as it is the right term for what was happening in commonwealth
@khulik I'd say polonization is as bad as extermination.
Occupying a region and taking it back isn't the same. If you think it is, you're an idiot.
Why is Berlin an occupied polish or czech region? It belonged to Germany since the Holy Roman Empire. So how the hell it's polish or czech? Suvalkai always belonged to lithuanian's till partitions of the commonwealth and until polish chauvinists occupied it. And there are still many lithuanians living there
Oh yes? Then today polish army should take care of your country, because FORCED lithuanisation is not better than PEACEFULY polonisation (agressive one was from 1920).
"It belonged to Germany since the Holy Roman Empire. "-learn history. Western Slavs (Poles, Czechs, Slovaks) were to Łaba, for short period land on which you can find today Berlin was land of Slavs.
"And there are still many lithuanians living there"-they are majorty only in Puńsk. The diffrence is, that they...
@khulik balts were living in the place of nowadays Berlin before it existed and Moscow. The name Moscow comes from baltic language. But for some reason we don't claim those lands as ours.
peaceful polonisation? Forced lithuanisation? the fucking lithuanian government doesn't even care about the lithuanian nation and it's continuance and you speak about lithuanization. Yeah, they increased the number of lithuanian language in polish schools and the students are satisfied, because they will...
"balts were living in the place of nowadays Berlin before it existed and Moscow. The name Moscow comes from baltic language. But for some reason we don't claim those lands as ours."-was it irony?
@khulik no, it's not irony. And before you try to deny what I've said again, please talk to any non polish ethnologist whether he is russian, ukrainian, german, latvian, lithuanian or any other nationality, he will tell you the same I have in my previous comment.
@khulik somehow most nations have had problems with Poland. Why's that? I'm not recommending to speak to a polish ethnologist, because all they know about history is "nasze krol Jagielo".
As I've said, Look it up, before you make idiotic arguments. The Moscow name comes from a river from the same name, which comes from baltic "Mazgoti" (may have been slightly different, considering this was a thousand years ago) which means "to wash" or to "rinse". In this case it was about the shores of a city
"because all they know about history is "nasze krol Jagielo""-is it yours?
Hungarians, Latvians, Czechs, Slovaks, French, Romanians, post-Jugoslavian nations. They weren't dealing with Poland?
Calisia was near today's Kalisz, built by Germans. If Balts were in Berlin, in Calisia probably too (the same German tribe). When German tribe got out of there, Slavs entered. In XIII century Calisia had been destroyed by Poles (fighting with other, dynasty fights) and rebuilt some km near Ca.
@khulik He was the king of Poland. I repeat myself, that doesn't make him polish, and again, I didn't say he was polish. I've said he was your king. Henrik Valois was our king in the commonwealth. But that doesn't make him nor polish nor lithuanian.
"I'm not like most poles to talk about things I don't know."-then learn about these things, because you've already admitted, that they are smarter than you :)
You meant probably "THEY don't know"? Well, I think, that if you are trying to teach somebody about something, start from yourself.
And few days ago there was article on delfi about Wilno in Poland (today). Of course Lithuanian "patriots" in a minute started crying: "EXTERMINATE POLES FROM HOLY LITHUANIAN LAND".
Of course nobody saw, that article was for new part of Warsaw, which will be called "Wilno".
@khulik it's an insult. How about we create a city in Lithuania after the name Warszaw? Or Belgrade? Or Sankt Petersburg? Or any other name of other country's capital or major city? How do you think that nation would react? Same as we do.
If Germans would built new part of Berlin and call this part "Breslau" or "Stettin", I'm sure that nobody normal would be offended.
"Same as we do. "-I really don't like this fact, but: Poles in general aren't so nationalistic, how they should be. We had two too tolerant countries and both of them falled because of non-tolerant ones.
@khulik No, but it's just stupid to do so. And insulting.
German's wouldn't do that, cause their nationalism is almost dead and a big part of them or their government don't care about their nation or history.
I don't agree, that poles aren't nationalistic. I think that your nation is a good example to others when it comes to nationalism. Not talking about the poles in Vilnius or Šalčininkai, that are mostly idiots, but ones in Poland. These poles aren't even comparable.
Insulting? As I can see only for Lithuanians. What is more, if I'm correct, you don't call your city "Wilno", but "Vilnaus" and you're destroying there everything which was polish. Then why cannot be a city (or part of city) in Poland called "Wilno".
"German's wouldn't do that, cause their nationalism is almost dead and a big part of them or their government don't care about their nation or history."-12% support for neonazis in some of German Lands (Sachsen) proves that?
@khulik try this with other countries. They will react the same.
You're saying it wrong.. we're not destroying. We're recreating. Poles were polonizing lithuanians back in 1920-1939, killing lithuanians that didn't give up, closed lithuanian schools. This is how Vilnius got tangled with the poles to begin with.
Already existing part of Warsaw is called "Włochy" ("Italy"). Italians aren't against.
"We're recreating."-if we would today use army to take Wilno, I would tell you the same.
"killing lithuanians that didn't give up"-for what we needed to kill 2%? They could did nothing. Interesting is fact, where 300000 Poles from Lauda disappeared? They disappeared mostly BEFORE 1939.
P.S. Closing schools was from both sides.
P.S.2 If you want to see chauvinism, look what Lithuanians did in Ponar
@khulik recreation? it would seem like reoccupation to me.
2% percent is bullshit. Poles killed way more than that.
Another interesting fact is that Lyda wasn't even in Lithuanian territory. Why do you bring it up then?
The state was taking care of lithuanians in the days of prezident Antanas Smetona, but didn't forbid minorities to have their own schools. I can't say the same in Vilnius region, where even calling yourself a lithuanian was forbidden. Does this sound the same to you?
"2% percent is bullshit. Poles killed way more than that."-2% were population of Lithuanians in Wilno. When we killed them?
"Lyda"-oh sorry, I meant Lauda (Liaude), north of Kowno/Kaunas.
Do you think I'll believe you? Lithuania in interwar was anti-polish puppet of USSR and Germany.
"it would seem like reoccupation to me."-funny thing-in 1923-1939 Vilnaus was occupied, today Wilno is occupied :) I will tell this directly:if this city was under "PL occupation", then you...
@khulik What happened in Paneriai was during the nazi occupation. Germans forced to kill jews and poles. Only a small part of citizens volunteered, cause they had a grudge against jews as soviets put many of them in the government of LSSR. And neither they liked the poles for obvious reasons.
I wouldn't even call neonazis similar to nationalists.
@khulik Kto wygrywa znaczy pszekonuje czy was argumenty oponenta.Patszylem TW a tam nasz prezident Grybauskaijte i wasz prezident s Litwy Komorowskij-Komorowskis,dlugo muwili,czeple stosunki,koženie to spulne,dogadlalszie o czym muwie?
Taa... jak wasz kochany Ażubalisek czy jakiś inny Kubilusek zwykł mawiać: "Stosunki polsko-litewskie są dobre, mimo iż MSZ (ministerstwo spraw zagranicznych) RP i mniejszość polska mówi coś innego".
A wiesz co jest najśmieszniejsze? To, że według MSZ RL stosunki się w ogóle nie zmieniły od 2005 r.
Co do dyskusji: chyba twój rodak spasował. A szkoda, bo dyskusja była dosyć interesująca.
Tak zrobiliście w 1920 r. i 1939r. (nie wmawiaj mi, że Wilno od Sowietów dostaliście za darmo). Obecnie wasz rząd marnie próbuje ułożyć się z Białorusią, tylko nie za bardzo wiem co wam to da.
Nie wiem, czy ci się chce tyle czytać w obcym języku, ale pewien tekst ze strony kresy.pl dotyczy czegoś fajnego po waszej stronie: "W sowieckich koleinach (1)"
Kiedy my jesteśmy w pobliżu, to według Litwinów jesteśmy przyjaciele. A tylko się odwrócimy a już się układacie choćby z Rosjanami (tutaj akurat z Białorusinami) przeciw nam.
@khulik most? Vilnius was built in early XIV age. until 1795 it was a lithuanian city. From 1795 till 1918 it was in russian territory. And for only 19 years it was a part of Poland. I don't think the mess that poles created in Vilnius during that time is most of it's history.
Some of you tells that Lithuania from 1569 was occupied...
In 1795 it was indeed Lithuanian city. "Lithuanian" in that times meant "citizen of Rzeczpospolita, Pole or Ruthenian".
"I don't think the mess that poles created in Vilnius during that time is most of it's history."-they didn't created that. They were building objects in this city from XVII century, even during Russian rule (so, from 1569 to 1939).
According to your way of thinking, Wilno should be given to Russia.
Beieve me-if Poles would be nationalistic, today you would have big problems. Have you ever heard about Giedroyć and his idiotic doctrine? If not, learn about it, because you will understand polish diplomacy about eastern neighbours.
@khulik nationalism doesn't provoke problems between nations. If poles would be chauvinistic, which history has proved they can be, and some still are, then we would have problems.
Neonazis aren't nationalists. People we call neonazis have little to do with nationalism. If germans would be nationalistic, they wouldn't have elected cosmopolitist Merkel and watch at the turkish mass immigration peacefully
If you don't beleive me in "Slavic Berlin", then something from your Wikipedia:
"Sorbai (aukšt.serb. serbja; žemut.sorb. serby), kitaip dar - lužitėnai - vakarų slavų tauta, gyvenanti dabartinės Vokietijos teritorijoje, krašte, vadinamame Lužica."
@khulik did I say I didn't believe you? I've just told, that balts were there before slavs.
Lithuania doesn't shut down polish schools one after another. How is that the same?
How is lithuanian interest in Suvalkai is revelant to lithuanian interest in Lwow? Nohow. Because lithuanians aren't interested in Lwow and because it's a polish interest which we could care less about.
@khulik ... be able to speak and understand the state language, unlike most of their parents and grandparents. So how is that forced lithuanization?
Oh, and everything in lithuanian schools in Poland is in polish. And they're planning to shut down half of lithuanian schools in Poland to force lithuanian children to go to ordinary schools. And you're talking about peacefulness?
And about the baltic tribes fighting against each other i answered already. The dukes wanted lands. Not the people.
"Oh, and everything in lithuanian schools in Poland is in polish. And they're planning to shut down half of lithuanian schools in Poland to force lithuanian children to go to ordinary schools. And you're talking about peacefulness?"-same like in your country. But nobody protests here.
@khulik and while exterminating the prussians, teutons started attacking both Lithuania and Poland. That was the point where the poles understood how stupid it was to invite the teutonic order, because their prime target was not only prussians, but also other balts. And after that, guess who would they had attacked? The Kingdom of Poland.
@khulik before was before. Two different periods of history. Things change. Balts didn't want to fight against each other. It was the dukes that wanted wars mostly for wealth. So no, this argument is not a nonsense
@khulik you shouldn't. Because it's not an occupation. Vilnius is the lithuanian capital since late 13th century. Vilnius was returned to us by USSR when they attacked Poland in 1940. And when Lithuania declared independence in 1990, we regained what belonged to our baltic ancestors (except some of Gardin's region, old prussian territories, Suvalkai and some other regions) including Vilnius. So how is that an occupation?
If that is not occupation, then it's hypocrysy to call period 1923-1939 "polish occupation".
As I said before-Prussians were not Lithuanians. If Suwałki and Grodno are "occupied Lithuanian regions", then Berlin is occupied Polish or Czech region.
Best wishes from Poland, our countrys where one for some many years. I think we can't destroyed it just like that.. I will always think about Lithuania with love.
Странно всю историю в Литве (ВКЛ) официальным языком был Руський. 80% населения славяне. Жмудские оккупанты извратили государство до неузнаваемости.-(
@ProudToNotBeRacist Je ne suis pas Francais, je suis Polonais mais cela n`a aucune importance. Je m`inte`resse beaucoup a` la Lithuanie ne serais-ce que pour son histoire qui e`tait encore plus tragique que celle de la Pologne. J`espe`re qu`un jour les Lithuaniens et les Polonais sauront appre`cier les moments he`roiques de leur histoire et rejeter les cliche`s.
@areski51 Oh ok desolee... Oui, je suis d'accord, les peuples doivent arreter de s'insulter et de se detester, ca me rend triste de voir des commentaires negatifs envers les gens de certains pays. C'est bien de voir que pas TOUS les Polonais detestent les Lithuaniens! Dans les commentaires, je vois les gens de ces pays se dire des mauvais mots... Mais je suis sure que les deux pays vont s'entendre bien :)
@eiffelTowerMan buhahahah stop listeninh ussr propaganda tell me why 2 out of 3 million lithuanians speak russain buhahaha ? its becouse you like the taste of their dick. Poland is the biggest country and the most powerful country of the region get over it
@eiffelTowerMan all in all we speak our language and have nuke bombs and missiles and you are disarmed little bitch, who help you when ussar attack you? noone coz you collaborated to hitler lithuanians are those one whom nobody shae hand
@just3ta I expected Polish people to be smart intelligent, but it appears that The rest of Poland is full of whiny little bitches like you , and Poland does not have nukes. The following states have nukes : Russia, USA , China , France , UK , India , Pakistan , North Korea , Israel. Poland has poor military , thats why they join NATO because they are afraid of other countries.
Love Lithuania!
From Hungary!
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ЭТО НЕ ГИМН ЛИТВЫ! Этот гимн выдуман лживыми злыми западными сатанистами в Лондоне, Париже и Германии. Настояший гимн Литвы это гимн Советской Литвы так как именно Советским гимном Литвы литовцы гнали пенками фашистов сатанистов! За всю историю Литвы Гимн Советской Литвы и флаг Советской Литвы приносил победу и счастье литовцам за всю историю Литвы только в СССР Литва цвела как цветок, сегодня Литва стала супер маркетом и барделем для западных шакалов! Да Здравствует Советская Литва!
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blondehair20 3 weeks ago
shit anthem
fantasy7004 2 months ago
Thank you for this video. Beautiful anthem, and let's hope things will go better. Hate will never make things better, and the people fighting is not going to either. Long live Lithuania!
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kas lietuvoje liko? visi gi isvare i kitas salis. tokia ir ta meile lietuvos
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lithuania is part of russia
xxxRedAssBaboon 3 months ago
@xxxRedAssBaboon ???? you mean part of Poland? Not all lithuania, but Vilno yes
frompolandeu 2 months ago
@xxxRedAssBaboon no
toisver 2 months ago
POLONIA WILNO. This is football team of Polish minority in Lithuania and is now among 21 best lithuanian football teams.
antyrezun 3 months ago
bl puiki kokybe, issidergimas is himno
morkiuzz 3 months ago
LOVE you Lithuania :) !
Jup126 4 months ago 4
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Jup126 4 months ago
I wish the sportscasters would pronounce Savickas' name correctly.
He is only the strongest man in the world.
It is said: S A V I S K A S, and the C is sibilant. Or Savitskas. Taip?
Anyway, long live Lietuva and anyone who feels differently can make more idiot posts. Been there, lived there. Great people. Kinda cloudy.
btsg 4 months ago 3
@btsg And great beer!
Pbirv 4 months ago
This is shit anthem. Lithuania is little, poor, nazis country.
fantasy7004 4 months ago
@fantasy7004 We aren't German:]
MrSpongebobOffical 4 months ago
@MrSpongebobOffical
I know, you are nazis :]
fantasy7004 4 months ago
@fantasy7004 We aren't nazis either:]
MrSpongebobOffical 4 months ago
@fantasy7004
hey, polak or jew, pls gtfo :]
Justas736 4 months ago
@Justas736
Your goverment sucks...
fantasy7004 4 months ago
@fantasy7004 Lithuanians aren't German.
Pbirv 4 months ago
@Pbirv
I don't said that Lithuanians are German...
fantasy7004 4 months ago
@fantasy7004 You did call them Nazis.
Pbirv 4 months ago
@fantasy7004 Again u, idiot. R u menatlly sick or what?? I really don't care, go and burn ur self for Poland, ur ritch country (even though polish ppl u can find in UK, Ireland, Norway and etc. on each and every corner), but do not share ur fucking opinion about the thing which u really don't know and understand.
Dzosy 2 months ago 3
@Dzosy u fuck off its my country
MultiRoxxete 3 weeks ago
@MultiRoxxete u also go and burn ur self.
Dzosy 3 weeks ago
Geez people what's with all the hate >3>..damn..why do we all have to be shits to each other?! Grow the fuck up!
sapphirejynx 4 months ago
Pozdrowienia dla Polaków na Litwie. Best regards for Polish patriots in Lithuania.
antyrezun 5 months ago
lietuva <3
mike1980ification 5 months ago
LIthuania 4 ever
HerOinLTU 5 months ago
@HerOinLTU
4 shit...
fantasy7004 4 months ago
I lived in Lithuania for two years - never again. Now live in Estonia which is MUCH better, despite having the same starting point (in fact harder for Estonia). Lithuania is a dreadful little place, a combination of the crapest aspects of Russia and Poland with none of the charm. Even a good proportion of Lithuanians know this and go to places like my homeland (UK) to do things like blow themselves up with illegal stills or cut people's heads off. Charming place.
whyteay 6 months ago
@whyteay
ul die a communist u english and american fucker... learn to respect other countrys exept your you fucking cunt
MarkPlaysGames 5 months ago
@MarkPlaysGames
1) One is either English or American, the two are mutually exclusive.
2) 'Respect' is a very overused word, hainvg no real meaning. It's best avoided.
3) That said, I do 'respect' other countries, simply not Lithuania, which is a shithole as I said.
4) The correct spelling is 'countries' and 'except'. It's best to avoid posting in languages which you don't speak properly.
5) I am a libertarian - certainly not a communist as you suggest
6) Now who's the cunt (hint - it's you).
whyteay 5 months ago
@whyteay
see what u did there communist...
well u can go to america eat some mcdonald and stfu like u always do u fat cunt
and were ever u live wish is probably england is even a bigger shithole filled with pussys in the ineternet and irl like u
MarkPlaysGames 5 months ago
@MarkPlaysGames As persuasive a walking argument for the validity of abortion as I ever did see.
whyteay 5 months ago
i never heard this shit because you have no achievements in sports or anything.stop persecuting polish minority and give back our polish lands and city wilno soviet retards.
norffolkk2 6 months ago
@norffolkk2 You should stop acting like nazi.
MrNaltas 6 months ago
@norffolkk2 stfu polak parasite and get out from lithuania !!
jamexxxxxx 6 months ago
@norffolkk2 Check out some achievements in basketball :) Not to mention the strongest man in the world lives in Lithuania. What did the good ol' Poles achieve? :P
Willux 6 months ago
@norffolkk2 "no achievments in sports" Your Joking right? We won first place in the FIBA European Championship Three times, not to mention third place in the Fiba World Championships last year. Also in the FIBA Under-19's World Championship we won first place and third place three times at the olympic games. We are ranked fifth in the FIBA world rankings. If that is not enough Zydrunas Savickas won 2009's Worlds Strongest Man competition and competes every year. We are 37th in FIFA world ranks.
Luigi95LT 5 months ago
@norffolkk2 you polish nazis dont know what your talking do you? we won the eurobasket 3 times and WE CAN KICK YOUR MOTHERF*****G ASS IN EVERY SPORT. FUCK YOU BITCH!
ignas082 5 months ago
@norffolkk2 by the way, you polish bastards have your own country, stop invading ours.
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"Dlatego ze dzisejsza Litwa nie ma nic wspolnego z ta Slowianska ,z ktora Polacy mieli Unie,Tamta Litwa to dzisiejsza Bialorus,dzisiejsza Litwa to antypolski nazistowski motloch baltycki ,ktory nie powienien byc spadkobierca historii tamtej Litwy"
HY i pytamy, dlaczego litewski "anty-polska sprawa"
Rupertass 6 months ago
Pozdrowienia dla naszych polskich braci na Litwie. Pamiętamy o was. Greetings for our polish brothers in lithuania. We remember you.
antyrezun 6 months ago
@antyrezun
Should be "about you". You told this like to the dead people :)
khulik 6 months ago
Are you Poles retarded? Using your language in the comments to OUR National Anthem. Go chat on skype.
Why did you start this discussion in the first place?
JimSnakeson 6 months ago
@JimSnakeson
1.Lithuanians were talking using their language under polish films, so start from your countrymen.
2.YT is American site, so we all are retarded, because we are sometimes using languages diffrent than English.
khulik 6 months ago
@khulik
1.then wouldn't it be wise for you to be one who stops that use of different languages in improper places.
"If someone hits us, then we HAVE to hit him back". Such thinking is foolish, don't you think so?
2. well, yes. But it's Lithuania's Anthem. I'm not saying that this means that all the comments must be in Lithuanian. Just that all this fighting began when someone wrote something insulting about Lithuania. I mean... Do you HAVE TO write "Wilno naszie" to everything that's...
JimSnakeson 6 months ago
@JimSnakeson
1. I don't have to pretend professor.
2. "Wilno/Lithuania nasze" is related with Lithuania, but in that problem it's a problem between Poland and Lithuania, so we should speak language acceptable for both users.
And tell me: do you have to offend Poles and opress polish minorty?
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JimSnakeson 6 months ago
@khulik
...Lithuania-related?
JimSnakeson 6 months ago
@JimSnakeson
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khulik 6 months ago
nezinau ko jums reikia .viskas prasidejo no sausio sukilimo ,nematau prasmes kelti ginciu nes jie zlugdo,kartu Lietuva ir Lenkija sukure nenugalima imperja pries kuria lenkesi vokeciai ir rusai,gincai sukelia tai jog tos salys dabar mumi valdo
Robik86G 7 months ago
Nie wiem o co Wam chodzi w tej dyskusji zaczęło się od Powstania Styczniowego takie animozje, kłótnie to ruina, razem w Federacji Polska i Litwa zbudowałą Imperium niezwyciężone, niemcy i rosjanie kajali się przed nami, a te kłótnie powodują, że oba kraje nami rządzą ;/
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MsLikeaChola 7 months ago 5
@MsLikeaChola Lithuania is nazi? You got to be kidding me. Poles are nazi. Even your Foreign Affairs Minister sometimes acts like nazi to Lithuania.
MrNaltas 6 months ago
@MrNaltas
Yoy are fucking nazi!
fantasy7004 6 months ago
@Robik86G
No to powiedz to o Białorusinach. Bo WKL składało się w głównej mierze ze Słowian, przodków Białorusinów, a w XVIII w. jedynym co odróżniało Polaka od Białorusina była religia (Katolicyzm/Prawosławie)
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MichelleRundell 7 months ago
kurvos pedikai tie kurie negerbia lietuvos.... ju tik 17 ir tai bailiai yra jiems tik eiti nakti pieno lakti blet
mirtiskiler 8 months ago
Latvia and Lithuania are brothers forever
Divirix1 8 months ago
Lietuva is the great country. This nation deserves a monument with his strength and liberty will during the Soviet occupation. Also I am proud of our mutual history of the Great Lithuanian County. Long live Great Lietuva!!!!
bearshearts 9 months ago
As uz Lietuva !!
spetcnazasbki 10 months ago 2
I can proudly say " I AM LITHUANIAN". I don't car about foreign people, but then they talk nonsence and shit about Lithuania I can't stay still. Many Lithuanians can speak Russian, because Lithuania was occupied by USSR and this occupation continue 50 years. Some forgot or didn't know, but in Lithuania since 1945 to 1953 was guerilla war against USSR.
In 1918 February 16 independence act mark that Vilnius is a capital city of Lithuania. So in 1920m. Poland made aggression act.
Tulziukas 10 months ago
@Tulziukas I see that you can you discuss normally. Lets hold our points of view to history. You can hold your Lithuanian I will hold my Polish. It does not metter becouse is only history. In 1920 Poles had majority in Wilno and it was Polish city. After War due to Stalins decision Poles were forced to leave Wilno. Now Vilnius is your capital and I have nothing against it. We demand only rights for our minority (surnames education property). Lithuanian citizens with Polish nationality=OK.
antyrezun 10 months ago
@antyrezun hey, does Poland let Russians or Lithuanians have their names written using cyrillic or Lithuanian alphabet? no...? Thought so.
The mere fact that Vilnius had majority of Poles doesnt mean shit. There are parts of Poland that has Lithuanian majority, there are parts around Vilnius that has Polish majority. Does that mean that the respective parts should join Poland/Lithuania? We have grown tired of hearing Polish moans and complaints all while closing Lithuanian schools in Poland :)
CheaterNLaw 10 months ago
@CheaterNLaw Did you read what i wrote. First read later answer. I sad that our borders are not changeable. Poland has no teritorial demands towards Lithuania. Our countries are in UE. Instead of Wilno Grodno and Lwów we have Wrocław, Szczecin and Gdańsk. This borders are result of Stalins decision. As I know Lithuanians can use their letters in surnames in Poland, have education and property. We expect only the same for Polish minority in Lithuania. Respect and be respected. Think about it.
antyrezun 10 months ago
@antyrezun "As I know Lithuanians can use their letters in surnames in Poland, have education and property. " On passports? No. They cant. The same way they cant have cyrillic on Polish passports. Are you going to do something about it? It is downright ridiculous to expect your alphabet to be adopted by a foreign country. Respect and be respect indeed.
CheaterNLaw 10 months ago
Did you know that the alphabets of diffrent countries comes from the latin.
RETARD! AR****LE! S**TBAG!
lucasys4 10 months ago
@antyrezun did you know that polish around vilnius really aren't polich they are polonized lithuanians, they even can't speak polish properly, have ever hear them?,they call themselves (tuteishis) we call them "shudlenkis" - (shitpol),
Divirix1 8 months ago
@Divirix1
Put your "polonised Lithuanians" in ass, they hate this insult.
khulik 8 months ago
@Divirix1 You how we call lithuanians "green yellow red clowns from kaunas". Return to your kolkhoz.
antyrezun 8 months ago
@antyrezun only you slavs (russian and polish) have created that kolkhoz, lithuanians were fighting 1945-1965 against kolchoz, but you slaves of russians accespted kolchoz at once- in 1945
Divirix1 8 months ago
@Divirix1 You were fighting against soviets. Do not make me laugh. In 1940 you have at once surrended to red army like in 1945. Poland fought in 1939 against two agresors from 1 september with nazi germans and from 17 september with soviet bolshevics. You know nothing about our history. You have only your anti-polish propaganda. It is your choice to live with us in conflict. For what. Ask yourself why you use povocative language towards Poland. Have you some problem. Respect and be respected.
antyrezun 8 months ago
@antyrezun our government refused to fight against soviets. The people didn't. The president at the time wanted to resist, but the government didn't agree. So we fought a partisan war and those willing and able fought with germans hoping to reclaim their country.. And we didn't surrender to the red army in 1945, because Lithuania wasn't even an independent country. You know nothing of our history either.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack I know nothing about your history, You know nothing about our history. Just like our politics. Keep you point of view and I will keep my point of view, Just like our politics. Nothing will change. Satisfyed.
antyrezun 8 months ago
@Divirix1
"1945-1965"-good job. Last soldier of II RP fighting with Communism was killed in 1963, but he was fighting from 1939.
"kolkhoz"-Bolscheviks created that and brought here.
"but you slaves of russians"-just pitful, when Lithuanian speaks like that to Pole. When we were fighting against red shit, you were their allies. And what is more, you should remember, that if not Soviets, you wouldn't have Wilno.
khulik 8 months ago
@Tulziukas
So, if Poland would that time declare independence with capital in Moscow or Chicago, that meant, that Russia or USA should give them to us?
"So in 1920m. Poland made aggression act."-you probably talks about Żeligowski (October 1920)? Well, I must informy you, that we kicked BOLSCHEVIKS out of Wilno in 1919. You did nothing. In 1920, 07.VII polish army were retreating because of Bolscheviks. Who helped Bolscheviks and attacked PL army from back? Lithuania? Who made first step then?
khulik 10 months ago
In 1919 Lithunian army was young. In that year Lithuania had another enemy from north West Russian Volunteer Army or Bermontians. Since Lithuania begining Vilnius was in Lithuania majority.
Watch maps where is Lithuania Duchy and Poland Kingdom in XV-XVI centuries and watch maps from XVII and XVIII century and you will see where was Vilnius
I know that in 1569 was Liublin Union, but LT and PL had different territories.
Tulziukas 10 months ago
@Tulziukas
And polish army was of course very old? XD
Ok, but was it the same country, which is today Lithuania?
khulik 10 months ago
@khulik I am sorry that i didn' answer in you question. So i try to. LT in 1920 May started talk with Soviet RUS and in 1920 12th of July were wrote peace as known Moscow peace. With this pease Soviet RUS accepted that LT is independet country with capital city Vilnius. Yes Lithuania army attacked PL army, because PL army was in LT and LT army reclaimed engaged territories by PL. First step made PL because they engaged Vilnius side. Vilnius side was accsepted by The Entente since 1918m.
Tulziukas 10 months ago
@Tulziukas
Excuse me, but is backstabbing OK?
If Dmowski (not Piłsudski) would be "head of country", that time, there would be no Lithuania today.
khulik 10 months ago
@khulik Backstabbing. no. I think you agree with me that At that time was war and in war there is no rules. But PL and LT wrote Suwałki Agreement in October 7, 1920. This is backstabbing, though LT and PL made peace, PL still capture Vilnius side.
I am soryy about that disorted fact about PL army.
OK PL took Vilnius side, but why PL opress Lithuanians? I don't want sabotage history, but not only LT historians tell about opression by Żeligowski. PL historian P. Losowsky wrote about that war.
Tulziukas 10 months ago
@Tulziukas
...and on the next day Żeligowski made action (which was planned by Piłsudski). But do you think, that he was planning everything a day earlier? I don't think so. He planned it much earlier, and when he started action (the same day) he would know nothing about agreement.
Opressions you say? So, tell me, where did 300000 PL from Kowno (Kaunas) and Lauda (Liaudė) disappeared? Because it's for sure not only Soviet work. And tell me, why there are reppresions against our minorty today?
khulik 10 months ago
@khulik reppressions against your minority? You mean the one's that the polish people are making up? Most of polaks don't even know the lithuanian language while living in Lithuania and are requiring to make it a national language. Besides, take a look at the polonization at Suvalkai and other ethnic lithuanian regions in poland. Lithuanian schools are being shut down every few months. Not mentioning that you can barely call them lithuanian schools. So you can stop talking about repressions mate
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
1.Don't use "polaks". Do you know, it's an insult?
2.These ones, with which I was talking about could without special programe translate me everything from Delfi.
3."Suvalkai and other ethinc..."-according to map, ancient Aukstotians (Lithuanians) had land to Niemen. So, what are you f*** about "Lithuanian Suwałki" when you have to give back land of Jaćwingowie, and Skalowowie?
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik Ancient aukstotians were a baltic tribe that was unified with the rest of the baltic tribes (except for prussians and latgalians). And even now they live by their traditions, unique to the region and aren't really angry about the fact that most balts were unified, because separate they would have been massacred by the livonian and teutonic knights, which Poland have invited. Not even mentioning the following conflicts with other enemies.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
You were trying to unificate with you Belarusians, but they unificaed you and later Lithuanians (Slavs) unificated with Poles (other Slavs). This your nation calls "colonisation".
"which Poland have invited."-if Poland would not invited Teutons, Prussians would massacrate Masovia.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik Grand Duchy of Lithuania had both Belorussian and Ukrainian territories. That doesn't mean all nations were being unificated. Only the balts have been while king Mindaugas was in reign. Other nations have been untouched. Even tartars and crimean karaites which were muslims. And later union of Lublin you speak of wasn't signed willingly by lithuanians. And we don't call it colonization. We and historians call it polonization as it is the right term for what was happening in commonwealth
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Polonisation? Yeah, especially while there was no modern nations there.
It's good, that we didn't try to exterminate all region like you and Ukrainians.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik I'd say polonization is as bad as extermination.
Occupying a region and taking it back isn't the same. If you think it is, you're an idiot.
Why is Berlin an occupied polish or czech region? It belonged to Germany since the Holy Roman Empire. So how the hell it's polish or czech? Suvalkai always belonged to lithuanian's till partitions of the commonwealth and until polish chauvinists occupied it. And there are still many lithuanians living there
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Oh yes? Then today polish army should take care of your country, because FORCED lithuanisation is not better than PEACEFULY polonisation (agressive one was from 1920).
"It belonged to Germany since the Holy Roman Empire. "-learn history. Western Slavs (Poles, Czechs, Slovaks) were to Łaba, for short period land on which you can find today Berlin was land of Slavs.
"And there are still many lithuanians living there"-they are majorty only in Puńsk. The diffrence is, that they...
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik balts were living in the place of nowadays Berlin before it existed and Moscow. The name Moscow comes from baltic language. But for some reason we don't claim those lands as ours.
peaceful polonisation? Forced lithuanisation? the fucking lithuanian government doesn't even care about the lithuanian nation and it's continuance and you speak about lithuanization. Yeah, they increased the number of lithuanian language in polish schools and the students are satisfied, because they will...
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
"balts were living in the place of nowadays Berlin before it existed and Moscow. The name Moscow comes from baltic language. But for some reason we don't claim those lands as ours."-was it irony?
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik no, it's not irony. And before you try to deny what I've said again, please talk to any non polish ethnologist whether he is russian, ukrainian, german, latvian, lithuanian or any other nationality, he will tell you the same I have in my previous comment.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
"russian, ukrainian, german, latvian, lithuanian"-impressing! Exept Latvians all these nations have/had problems with Poland!
Moscow is Balitc name? Impressive. Chicago probably too?
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik somehow most nations have had problems with Poland. Why's that? I'm not recommending to speak to a polish ethnologist, because all they know about history is "nasze krol Jagielo".
As I've said, Look it up, before you make idiotic arguments. The Moscow name comes from a river from the same name, which comes from baltic "Mazgoti" (may have been slightly different, considering this was a thousand years ago) which means "to wash" or to "rinse". In this case it was about the shores of a city
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
I haven't heard about bad history with most of: African, Asian, American and half of European nations.
"nasze krol Jagielo"-silly. Nobody old me, that Jagiełło was Pole.
And "Calisia" is probably ancient Baltic name too?
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik I'm talking about the nations you had been dealing with.
Jogaila wasn't polish, but he was your king. Where did I say that he's polish?
I don't know about Calisia, so I won't say anything about it. I'm not like most poles to talk about things I don't know.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
"because all they know about history is "nasze krol Jagielo""-is it yours?
Hungarians, Latvians, Czechs, Slovaks, French, Romanians, post-Jugoslavian nations. They weren't dealing with Poland?
Calisia was near today's Kalisz, built by Germans. If Balts were in Berlin, in Calisia probably too (the same German tribe). When German tribe got out of there, Slavs entered. In XIII century Calisia had been destroyed by Poles (fighting with other, dynasty fights) and rebuilt some km near Ca.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik He was the king of Poland. I repeat myself, that doesn't make him polish, and again, I didn't say he was polish. I've said he was your king. Henrik Valois was our king in the commonwealth. But that doesn't make him nor polish nor lithuanian.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Yep, same as Batory (today he would be called Hungarian).
But then for what you started this: ""because all they know..."
khulik 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
"I'm not like most poles to talk about things I don't know."-then learn about these things, because you've already admitted, that they are smarter than you :)
You meant probably "THEY don't know"? Well, I think, that if you are trying to teach somebody about something, start from yourself.
khulik 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
And few days ago there was article on delfi about Wilno in Poland (today). Of course Lithuanian "patriots" in a minute started crying: "EXTERMINATE POLES FROM HOLY LITHUANIAN LAND".
Of course nobody saw, that article was for new part of Warsaw, which will be called "Wilno".
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik it's an insult. How about we create a city in Lithuania after the name Warszaw? Or Belgrade? Or Sankt Petersburg? Or any other name of other country's capital or major city? How do you think that nation would react? Same as we do.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Nobody bans you that :)
If Germans would built new part of Berlin and call this part "Breslau" or "Stettin", I'm sure that nobody normal would be offended.
"Same as we do. "-I really don't like this fact, but: Poles in general aren't so nationalistic, how they should be. We had two too tolerant countries and both of them falled because of non-tolerant ones.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik No, but it's just stupid to do so. And insulting.
German's wouldn't do that, cause their nationalism is almost dead and a big part of them or their government don't care about their nation or history.
I don't agree, that poles aren't nationalistic. I think that your nation is a good example to others when it comes to nationalism. Not talking about the poles in Vilnius or Šalčininkai, that are mostly idiots, but ones in Poland. These poles aren't even comparable.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Insulting? As I can see only for Lithuanians. What is more, if I'm correct, you don't call your city "Wilno", but "Vilnaus" and you're destroying there everything which was polish. Then why cannot be a city (or part of city) in Poland called "Wilno".
"German's wouldn't do that, cause their nationalism is almost dead and a big part of them or their government don't care about their nation or history."-12% support for neonazis in some of German Lands (Sachsen) proves that?
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik try this with other countries. They will react the same.
You're saying it wrong.. we're not destroying. We're recreating. Poles were polonizing lithuanians back in 1920-1939, killing lithuanians that didn't give up, closed lithuanian schools. This is how Vilnius got tangled with the poles to begin with.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Already existing part of Warsaw is called "Włochy" ("Italy"). Italians aren't against.
"We're recreating."-if we would today use army to take Wilno, I would tell you the same.
"killing lithuanians that didn't give up"-for what we needed to kill 2%? They could did nothing. Interesting is fact, where 300000 Poles from Lauda disappeared? They disappeared mostly BEFORE 1939.
P.S. Closing schools was from both sides.
P.S.2 If you want to see chauvinism, look what Lithuanians did in Ponar
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik recreation? it would seem like reoccupation to me.
2% percent is bullshit. Poles killed way more than that.
Another interesting fact is that Lyda wasn't even in Lithuanian territory. Why do you bring it up then?
The state was taking care of lithuanians in the days of prezident Antanas Smetona, but didn't forbid minorities to have their own schools. I can't say the same in Vilnius region, where even calling yourself a lithuanian was forbidden. Does this sound the same to you?
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
"2% percent is bullshit. Poles killed way more than that."-2% were population of Lithuanians in Wilno. When we killed them?
"Lyda"-oh sorry, I meant Lauda (Liaude), north of Kowno/Kaunas.
Do you think I'll believe you? Lithuania in interwar was anti-polish puppet of USSR and Germany.
"it would seem like reoccupation to me."-funny thing-in 1923-1939 Vilnaus was occupied, today Wilno is occupied :) I will tell this directly:if this city was under "PL occupation", then you...
khulik 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
...should destroy all buildings which were built in that times, and you'll have your "recreation"
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik What happened in Paneriai was during the nazi occupation. Germans forced to kill jews and poles. Only a small part of citizens volunteered, cause they had a grudge against jews as soviets put many of them in the government of LSSR. And neither they liked the poles for obvious reasons.
I wouldn't even call neonazis similar to nationalists.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
They didn't have to force anybody. Lithuanians did this willingly.
The only diffrence between neonazi and nationalist: nationalist can use logic and don't have to be racist and antisemite.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik dzen dobryj, oho jaka dluga diskusja idže.Kto wygrywa?kturego argumenty jest na szebliu?Widze nejestesz k nam obojentnyj.
Notanga0920 8 months ago
@Notanga0920
Śmiesznie ci wychodzi ta ironia w mieszanym polsko-białorusko-rosyjskim.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik nema jakej tutaj ironiji.Czitam i miszle.Tej mieszanki niema dužo.
Notanga0920 8 months ago
@Notanga0920
Nie zrozumiałem sensu tego postu.
Co to znaczy "Kto wygrywa" w dyskusji?
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik Kto wygrywa znaczy pszekonuje czy was argumenty oponenta.Patszylem TW a tam nasz prezident Grybauskaijte i wasz prezident s Litwy Komorowskij-Komorowskis,dlugo muwili,czeple stosunki,koženie to spulne,dogadlalszie o czym muwie?
Notanga0920 8 months ago
@Notanga0920
Taa... jak wasz kochany Ażubalisek czy jakiś inny Kubilusek zwykł mawiać: "Stosunki polsko-litewskie są dobre, mimo iż MSZ (ministerstwo spraw zagranicznych) RP i mniejszość polska mówi coś innego".
A wiesz co jest najśmieszniejsze? To, że według MSZ RL stosunki się w ogóle nie zmieniły od 2005 r.
Co do dyskusji: chyba twój rodak spasował. A szkoda, bo dyskusja była dosyć interesująca.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik teStosunki s rosjanamy to jaka glupota nieslyhalem ,teraz jade na wiesz oklogranizy,wieczorem miszle pojehacz do PL.
Notanga0920 8 months ago
@Notanga0920
Tak zrobiliście w 1920 r. i 1939r. (nie wmawiaj mi, że Wilno od Sowietów dostaliście za darmo). Obecnie wasz rząd marnie próbuje ułożyć się z Białorusią, tylko nie za bardzo wiem co wam to da.
khulik 8 months ago
@Notanga0920
Nie wiem, czy ci się chce tyle czytać w obcym języku, ale pewien tekst ze strony kresy.pl dotyczy czegoś fajnego po waszej stronie: "W sowieckich koleinach (1)"
Kiedy my jesteśmy w pobliżu, to według Litwinów jesteśmy przyjaciele. A tylko się odwrócimy a już się układacie choćby z Rosjanami (tutaj akurat z Białorusinami) przeciw nam.
khulik 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
And one more thing: by this "reacting", you are earsing most of history of this city.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik most? Vilnius was built in early XIV age. until 1795 it was a lithuanian city. From 1795 till 1918 it was in russian territory. And for only 19 years it was a part of Poland. I don't think the mess that poles created in Vilnius during that time is most of it's history.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Some of you tells that Lithuania from 1569 was occupied...
In 1795 it was indeed Lithuanian city. "Lithuanian" in that times meant "citizen of Rzeczpospolita, Pole or Ruthenian".
"I don't think the mess that poles created in Vilnius during that time is most of it's history."-they didn't created that. They were building objects in this city from XVII century, even during Russian rule (so, from 1569 to 1939).
According to your way of thinking, Wilno should be given to Russia.
khulik 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Beieve me-if Poles would be nationalistic, today you would have big problems. Have you ever heard about Giedroyć and his idiotic doctrine? If not, learn about it, because you will understand polish diplomacy about eastern neighbours.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik nationalism doesn't provoke problems between nations. If poles would be chauvinistic, which history has proved they can be, and some still are, then we would have problems.
Neonazis aren't nationalists. People we call neonazis have little to do with nationalism. If germans would be nationalistic, they wouldn't have elected cosmopolitist Merkel and watch at the turkish mass immigration peacefully
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Poles were strong cosmopolitican in interwar in compare to Lithuanians.
"Neonazis aren't nationalists"-true, they're more radical form of nationalism.
khulik 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
If you don't beleive me in "Slavic Berlin", then something from your Wikipedia:
"Sorbai (aukšt.serb. serbja; žemut.sorb. serby), kitaip dar - lužitėnai - vakarų slavų tauta, gyvenanti dabartinės Vokietijos teritorijoje, krašte, vadinamame Lužica."
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik did I say I didn't believe you? I've just told, that balts were there before slavs.
Lithuania doesn't shut down polish schools one after another. How is that the same?
How is lithuanian interest in Suvalkai is revelant to lithuanian interest in Lwow? Nohow. Because lithuanians aren't interested in Lwow and because it's a polish interest which we could care less about.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
That's right, they were before, but were they on territory of todays Ukraine or Russia and Berlin? I don't think so.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik ... be able to speak and understand the state language, unlike most of their parents and grandparents. So how is that forced lithuanization?
Oh, and everything in lithuanian schools in Poland is in polish. And they're planning to shut down half of lithuanian schools in Poland to force lithuanian children to go to ordinary schools. And you're talking about peacefulness?
And about the baltic tribes fighting against each other i answered already. The dukes wanted lands. Not the people.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
"Oh, and everything in lithuanian schools in Poland is in polish. And they're planning to shut down half of lithuanian schools in Poland to force lithuanian children to go to ordinary schools. And you're talking about peacefulness?"-same like in your country. But nobody protests here.
khulik 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
...have laws, which they should have as ethnic minorty and regional majorty.
khulik 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
P.S. If you like "ethinc lands" theory so much, then force Ukrainians to give back Lwów.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik you tell them that. I'm not ukrainian and therefore it's not my interest.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Then Suwałki aren't lithuanian interest.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik and while exterminating the prussians, teutons started attacking both Lithuania and Poland. That was the point where the poles understood how stupid it was to invite the teutonic order, because their prime target was not only prussians, but also other balts. And after that, guess who would they had attacked? The Kingdom of Poland.
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
Yes, that's true. As we can see, Hungarians had smarter authorities (and still have).
"but also other balts"-before that Lithuanians were rather enemies, so this argument is nonsense.
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik before was before. Two different periods of history. Things change. Balts didn't want to fight against each other. It was the dukes that wanted wars mostly for wealth. So no, this argument is not a nonsense
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
"Balts didn't want to fight against each other"-then why they attacked Masovia (it was not Poland, but very close to Poland)?
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik and don't even compare the unification of balts with polish occupation of lithuanian lands. It's quite insulting than "polak".
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
"Polak" is not an insult. "Polack" is.
Polish occupation? What should I say about Lithuanian occupation of Wilno today? :)
khulik 8 months ago
@khulik you shouldn't. Because it's not an occupation. Vilnius is the lithuanian capital since late 13th century. Vilnius was returned to us by USSR when they attacked Poland in 1940. And when Lithuania declared independence in 1990, we regained what belonged to our baltic ancestors (except some of Gardin's region, old prussian territories, Suvalkai and some other regions) including Vilnius. So how is that an occupation?
Muzzrack 8 months ago
@Muzzrack
If that is not occupation, then it's hypocrysy to call period 1923-1939 "polish occupation".
As I said before-Prussians were not Lithuanians. If Suwałki and Grodno are "occupied Lithuanian regions", then Berlin is occupied Polish or Czech region.
khulik 8 months ago
@Tulziukas Don't worry,we Latvia will always be with Lithuania :)
TheLatvianBeast 10 months ago
@TheLatvianBeast I know. We always will be Brothers. :)
Tulziukas 10 months ago
Nekokybiškai įrašyta kažkaijp... ;(]
desastroso666 11 months ago
What kind of motherfuckers pushed "dislike" ?
cunamitck 11 months ago
Best wishes from Poland, our countrys where one for some many years. I think we can't destroyed it just like that.. I will always think about Lithuania with love.
MrBennosuke 11 months ago
Странно всю историю в Литве (ВКЛ) официальным языком был Руський. 80% населения славяне. Жмудские оккупанты извратили государство до неузнаваемости.-(
0Russia0 11 months ago
Kubiliandijos ir Kubilistano himnas!
mantwyz 11 months ago
LITHUANIA 4 LIFE BITCHES!
TheMojov 1 year ago 2
Vive la Lithuanie libre ! Salut à tous les Lithuaniens et à leur présidente Mme Grybauskaite . Pologne .
areski51 1 year ago 2
@areski51 Vous m'avez surpris avec votre commentaire francais! C'est interessant do constater que je ne suis pas la seule ici qui est francaise :)
En effet, j'espere que la Lituanie va aller mieux et continuer de developer et d'ameliorer son economie!
ProudToNotBeRacist 3 months ago
@ProudToNotBeRacist Je ne suis pas Francais, je suis Polonais mais cela n`a aucune importance. Je m`inte`resse beaucoup a` la Lithuanie ne serais-ce que pour son histoire qui e`tait encore plus tragique que celle de la Pologne. J`espe`re qu`un jour les Lithuaniens et les Polonais sauront appre`cier les moments he`roiques de leur histoire et rejeter les cliche`s.
areski51 3 months ago
@areski51 Oh ok desolee... Oui, je suis d'accord, les peuples doivent arreter de s'insulter et de se detester, ca me rend triste de voir des commentaires negatifs envers les gens de certains pays. C'est bien de voir que pas TOUS les Polonais detestent les Lithuaniens! Dans les commentaires, je vois les gens de ces pays se dire des mauvais mots... Mais je suis sure que les deux pays vont s'entendre bien :)
ProudToNotBeRacist 3 months ago
Lithuania best
Ambrutis16 1 year ago 2
im a proud polak me & my mom share one bed , im 26 and still a virgin but who cares , my matka let me suck her clit all night long :D
POLSKA 4 LIFE
DERderMITseinerMUTTi 1 year ago
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TheMojov 1 year ago
Lithuania without Poland is a nothing ;)
WhitePolishPatriot 1 year ago
@WhitePolishPatriot Poland without UK , USA , Russia , Germany is nothing
eiffelTowerMan 1 year ago
@eiffelTowerMan buhahahah stop listeninh ussr propaganda tell me why 2 out of 3 million lithuanians speak russain buhahaha ? its becouse you like the taste of their dick. Poland is the biggest country and the most powerful country of the region get over it
just3ta 1 year ago
@just3ta Yes Yes, now go to sleep
eiffelTowerMan 1 year ago
@eiffelTowerMan all in all we speak our language and have nuke bombs and missiles and you are disarmed little bitch, who help you when ussar attack you? noone coz you collaborated to hitler lithuanians are those one whom nobody shae hand
just3ta 1 year ago
@just3ta I expected Polish people to be smart intelligent, but it appears that The rest of Poland is full of whiny little bitches like you , and Poland does not have nukes. The following states have nukes : Russia, USA , China , France , UK , India , Pakistan , North Korea , Israel. Poland has poor military , thats why they join NATO because they are afraid of other countries.
eiffelTowerMan 1 year ago