Tipping is only is the United States. I've been to Europe, the Middle East, and southeast Asia they will laugh at you if you bring up tipping. Mr Pink's opinion on tipping is exactly the way it should be. Superb excellent service give a little something but giving them something no matter what and to have a standard percentage is straight bullshit.
@AxeMurderer24 Tipping is done in Europe, well at least it is here in the UK. But like you said, its down to the service they've given you. If I get a good service, like in a restaurant then I'll throw down some of my change or a little of what I have on me, or if a taxi driver makes the effort to talk to me on a journey. But thats about it.
Flirt with me, smile at me, make me think (falsely or otherwise) that I could go fuck you in a broom closet, and show me a nice pair of sweater puppies and you can have your 20%. Other than that I'm with Mr. Pink.
I honestly see what he means. I got to say i kinda agree, i'll throw in a 20 dollar tip if the waiter or waitress deserved it, but if they didnt i dont think i can say that i would.
If all one is doing is pouring booze from a spigot, they don't need a tip. If they are rude in front of me while thinking I can't hear them, doubly so. I don't get any fucking tips for the jobs I have. If one had to put some amount of effort into mixing and pouring a drink, then we'd be in a different ball park, but it's not my fault that some people can only get jobs based on their ability to be on their feet all day and carry beer a whopping ten feet without spilling it.
I think it's fine to give a bartender something if your gonna be ordering drinks all night. Just throw in a buck or 2. If your just getting one beer or something then it doesn't matter.
I don't mind tipping good service...but, I WILL NOT tip in advance AND I don't believe that you should tip bad service...AND don't adhere to restaurant statements on menus that read to the effect "A gratituity of 15% will be added to all parties of six or more"...or something to that affect, because then it is no longer a tip; it is a surcharge because a tip is voluntary, not mandatory as these type of statements proclaim; anyway, they are making more money by having more guests...my take on it.
Also....tipping in advance of service only encourages poor service..it certainly can't encourage good service since the tip is already given in advance of service. Also, I will generally not tip at buffets that do not provide full service or if I do I will tip less because less service is provided. A tip is a gift. What has happened is that is has become required to some extend: in many European countries a tip is included in the bill so it is mandatory regardless.
I tried tipping in Japan a few months ago. They waiter ran after me as we left the restaurant to give me my money back. They don't do that there. Their employers pay them a proper wage and don't pass the buck to the customers. Same in New Zealand.
Don't even get me started on tipping at the bar. I'm suppose to give you a dollar extra because you opened my beer for me?
Servers and customers are getting screwed, not the owners.
@MelkorHimself and second, throwing around the word IGNORANT in reference to a job you clearly know nothing of, in itself is ignorance. isn't that the true definition of the word ignorant? lacking knowledge of something in particular. i don't have to know anything further about you to know that you've never stepped foot in a restaurant from the perspective other than being the customer. you can lie and say that you have but it's more than apparent you have not, or believe me, you'd change your
@llifton5 I served before, so you are by definition being ignorant since you neither know me or anyone commenting here. When you can base your argument on logic instead of emotions, come talk to me.
@MelkorHimself attitude 100%. do i think that as customers you should be required to pay my salary? no, probably not. it is a way for these companies to make extra money by not having to pay their employees regular salaries. but here's a novel idea. if you don't like it and don't support these companies for this fact - don't eat there. because what you're doing is giving your business to the people you claim to disagree with, yet take your anger out on the little guy by not tipping.
@MelkorHimself what you're doing is the equivilant to saying something along the lines of you don't believe in sweat shops where employers exploit their workers for little or no money, yet at any free opportunity, you go to the company that sells these items and purchase them knowing it's supporting the companies that run these types of businesses. continuing to punish the little guy. i didn't want to have to write a novel but your rude comment calling a stranger ignorant prompted me to.
@llifton5 It wasn't rude. His statement was ignorant by its very definition. Whether or not you consider it rude is opinionated and irrelevant, because it doesn't change the truth. Moreover, your statement is a straw man fallacy that has no logical foundation. Patronizing a restaurant and not tipping what you deem appropriate is not punishing the little guy. I go to an establishment to get its goods and/or services. It's foolish to assume I'm responsible for the actions of the owner.
Obviously if I was a server/barman or something, getting extra money would be nice.
I do not agree with the American Tipping culture though. From what i understand, you seem to tip more often and for higher amounts. If a server provides a smile and good service, i wouldn't think they should deserve money for this, it's their job to smile and be polite.
@Adraline I disagree. I served myself, and it didn't make me any more self entitled to tips, and that is really what this boils down to being: entitlement. Maybe I'm unlike most people, but I use logic in all aspects of my life, and I know that my job choice is my responsibility, and my signature on the work contract is my acceptance of the pay and duties. If I don't like the terms, I don't have to work there. Besides, serving requires no education and thus shouldn't be a high-paying job.
@MelkorHimself I agree with Mr. Pink on the fact that you shouldn't HAVE to tip. And you don't. No where does it say that you are required to tip a server. However, it is customary, due to the culture and social norms are psychologically enforced, whether you think they are or aren't. (IE. dress wear, appearance, etc). And he even said that a great service is rewarded with money. (continued...)
@Adraline What is customary is not always right or logical, and the American tipping culture is a clear example of that. For some reason people let themselves fear supposed repercussions of not following a social norm, and consequently they psychologically enslave themselves to it. Now, it is appropriate to tip a server who has made your dining experience excellent, but a server who is only performing their minimum contractual obligations has not earned a gratuity.
@MelkorHimself Education doesn't enhance people skills. Besides, 9/10 servers I work with are in school, myself included. A server's salary got me an associates degree, leading into a bachelor degree. I was always on the fence about whether it's shady to make people pay a server's wage, but let's face it- if tips were taken out of the equation, half the people who come in to eat wouldn't get good, even adequate service. (And even if they are stupid, there are schools to teach customer service).
@Adraline You are wrong in saying that paying at least minimum wage would lead to mediocre service. As people pay more, they expect more. If they have to pay a meal price that covers a higher wage, they will expect better service from the server, and if they don't get it, they will complain to the manager and most likely have food deducted from the bill. This, in turn, gets slashed from the server's paycheck. Plus, servers with a higher wage are more expendable.
American labor laws haven't changed. Federal law only requires wait staff to be paid a minimum of $2.13 an hour.
mybloatedpid 21 hours ago
I don't tip, not 20% anyway. Might leave the coins if I happen to pay in cash but that rarely happens.
Gupps0123456 1 week ago
Tipping is only is the United States. I've been to Europe, the Middle East, and southeast Asia they will laugh at you if you bring up tipping. Mr Pink's opinion on tipping is exactly the way it should be. Superb excellent service give a little something but giving them something no matter what and to have a standard percentage is straight bullshit.
AxeMurderer24 1 week ago
@AxeMurderer24 Tipping is done in Europe, well at least it is here in the UK. But like you said, its down to the service they've given you. If I get a good service, like in a restaurant then I'll throw down some of my change or a little of what I have on me, or if a taxi driver makes the effort to talk to me on a journey. But thats about it.
RichyJ1991 2 days ago
Flirt with me, smile at me, make me think (falsely or otherwise) that I could go fuck you in a broom closet, and show me a nice pair of sweater puppies and you can have your 20%. Other than that I'm with Mr. Pink.
SimuLord 1 week ago 2
why not tip, he dont believe in it shut up, cough up ya cheap bastard... too funny
4776yankee 1 month ago
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EXCELLENT SCENE!!!!
My god.. I have friends that think like this... sadly. :(
I had this situation 2 weeks ago... I can't believe a movie would show this 20 years ago....
WE DID NOT GROW UP
WE DO NOT LEARN
WE DO NOT RESPECT
WE DO NOT CARE
I mean I DO, WE... is .. you know... WOW unbelievable
McGabach 1 month ago
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McGabach 1 month ago
I honestly see what he means. I got to say i kinda agree, i'll throw in a 20 dollar tip if the waiter or waitress deserved it, but if they didnt i dont think i can say that i would.
SpencerRianBacon 1 month ago
@SpencerRianBacon Exactly. Actually I do tip but the amount depends on whether I liked the service and attitude or not. Also boobies.
alperloos 4 weeks ago
tipping is for suckers
edwardd6681 2 months ago
FUCK GRATUNITY
edwardd6681 3 months ago
@edwardd6681 . . .and people hoo carnt spell
kevintheshedend1976 1 month ago
If all one is doing is pouring booze from a spigot, they don't need a tip. If they are rude in front of me while thinking I can't hear them, doubly so. I don't get any fucking tips for the jobs I have. If one had to put some amount of effort into mixing and pouring a drink, then we'd be in a different ball park, but it's not my fault that some people can only get jobs based on their ability to be on their feet all day and carry beer a whopping ten feet without spilling it.
Triundi 4 months ago
I think it's fine to give a bartender something if your gonna be ordering drinks all night. Just throw in a buck or 2. If your just getting one beer or something then it doesn't matter.
Patricio87 5 months ago
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wwtdd1 5 months ago
I don't mind tipping good service...but, I WILL NOT tip in advance AND I don't believe that you should tip bad service...AND don't adhere to restaurant statements on menus that read to the effect "A gratituity of 15% will be added to all parties of six or more"...or something to that affect, because then it is no longer a tip; it is a surcharge because a tip is voluntary, not mandatory as these type of statements proclaim; anyway, they are making more money by having more guests...my take on it.
DontBuyChinese 6 months ago
@DontBuyChinese
Also....tipping in advance of service only encourages poor service..it certainly can't encourage good service since the tip is already given in advance of service. Also, I will generally not tip at buffets that do not provide full service or if I do I will tip less because less service is provided. A tip is a gift. What has happened is that is has become required to some extend: in many European countries a tip is included in the bill so it is mandatory regardless.
DontBuyChinese 6 months ago
I tried tipping in Japan a few months ago. They waiter ran after me as we left the restaurant to give me my money back. They don't do that there. Their employers pay them a proper wage and don't pass the buck to the customers. Same in New Zealand.
Don't even get me started on tipping at the bar. I'm suppose to give you a dollar extra because you opened my beer for me?
Servers and customers are getting screwed, not the owners.
MatttJack 8 months ago 18
it's so easy to tell on here who's never worked as a server and who has.
llifton5 9 months ago
@llifton5 If you're going to post an ignorant comment, do it with style next time.
MelkorHimself 9 months ago
@MelkorHimself and....YOU'D be one of them. haha
llifton5 9 months ago
@MelkorHimself and second, throwing around the word IGNORANT in reference to a job you clearly know nothing of, in itself is ignorance. isn't that the true definition of the word ignorant? lacking knowledge of something in particular. i don't have to know anything further about you to know that you've never stepped foot in a restaurant from the perspective other than being the customer. you can lie and say that you have but it's more than apparent you have not, or believe me, you'd change your
llifton5 9 months ago
@llifton5 I served before, so you are by definition being ignorant since you neither know me or anyone commenting here. When you can base your argument on logic instead of emotions, come talk to me.
MelkorHimself 9 months ago 5
@MelkorHimself youre an idiot.
mnypwrrspkt 8 months ago
@mnypwrrspkt You're blocked.
MelkorHimself 8 months ago
@MelkorHimself lol oooh blocked.... ouch.
2Emos1Razor 3 months ago
@MelkorHimself attitude 100%. do i think that as customers you should be required to pay my salary? no, probably not. it is a way for these companies to make extra money by not having to pay their employees regular salaries. but here's a novel idea. if you don't like it and don't support these companies for this fact - don't eat there. because what you're doing is giving your business to the people you claim to disagree with, yet take your anger out on the little guy by not tipping.
llifton5 9 months ago
@MelkorHimself what you're doing is the equivilant to saying something along the lines of you don't believe in sweat shops where employers exploit their workers for little or no money, yet at any free opportunity, you go to the company that sells these items and purchase them knowing it's supporting the companies that run these types of businesses. continuing to punish the little guy. i didn't want to have to write a novel but your rude comment calling a stranger ignorant prompted me to.
llifton5 9 months ago
@llifton5 It wasn't rude. His statement was ignorant by its very definition. Whether or not you consider it rude is opinionated and irrelevant, because it doesn't change the truth. Moreover, your statement is a straw man fallacy that has no logical foundation. Patronizing a restaurant and not tipping what you deem appropriate is not punishing the little guy. I go to an establishment to get its goods and/or services. It's foolish to assume I'm responsible for the actions of the owner.
MelkorHimself 6 months ago
In some countries, its not even allow to tip so be thankful these waiters in America have these social norms that favor them.
brianpwnsjustin 9 months ago
Pink would feel at home here in Europe. None of that mandatory tipping crap.
Jontish316 10 months ago
also if I had money spare to give to people for doing nothing more than they should, i'd probably give it to charity
davidlennon 11 months ago
Obviously if I was a server/barman or something, getting extra money would be nice.
I do not agree with the American Tipping culture though. From what i understand, you seem to tip more often and for higher amounts. If a server provides a smile and good service, i wouldn't think they should deserve money for this, it's their job to smile and be polite.
davidlennon 11 months ago
He'd change his mind after being a server for a month.
Adraline 1 year ago
@Adraline I disagree. I served myself, and it didn't make me any more self entitled to tips, and that is really what this boils down to being: entitlement. Maybe I'm unlike most people, but I use logic in all aspects of my life, and I know that my job choice is my responsibility, and my signature on the work contract is my acceptance of the pay and duties. If I don't like the terms, I don't have to work there. Besides, serving requires no education and thus shouldn't be a high-paying job.
MelkorHimself 1 year ago
@MelkorHimself I agree with Mr. Pink on the fact that you shouldn't HAVE to tip. And you don't. No where does it say that you are required to tip a server. However, it is customary, due to the culture and social norms are psychologically enforced, whether you think they are or aren't. (IE. dress wear, appearance, etc). And he even said that a great service is rewarded with money. (continued...)
Adraline 1 year ago
@Adraline What is customary is not always right or logical, and the American tipping culture is a clear example of that. For some reason people let themselves fear supposed repercussions of not following a social norm, and consequently they psychologically enslave themselves to it. Now, it is appropriate to tip a server who has made your dining experience excellent, but a server who is only performing their minimum contractual obligations has not earned a gratuity.
MelkorHimself 1 year ago
@MelkorHimself Education doesn't enhance people skills. Besides, 9/10 servers I work with are in school, myself included. A server's salary got me an associates degree, leading into a bachelor degree. I was always on the fence about whether it's shady to make people pay a server's wage, but let's face it- if tips were taken out of the equation, half the people who come in to eat wouldn't get good, even adequate service. (And even if they are stupid, there are schools to teach customer service).
Adraline 1 year ago
@Adraline You are wrong in saying that paying at least minimum wage would lead to mediocre service. As people pay more, they expect more. If they have to pay a meal price that covers a higher wage, they will expect better service from the server, and if they don't get it, they will complain to the manager and most likely have food deducted from the bill. This, in turn, gets slashed from the server's paycheck. Plus, servers with a higher wage are more expendable.
MelkorHimself 1 year ago
I agree with Mr Pink
Dhammond5 1 year ago 3
LOL awesome.. funny!!
BRm2008 1 year ago