@OldSkinsNeverDie you missed the point of sid vicious' use of the swaztika,pure shock,considering what was done to europe by the nazis it's not hard to understand early punk rocks use of the swaztika and nazi images...also remember that freedom is not something can be partial,it must be total and complete or it isnt freedom at all,you may not like everything freedom allows but thats the price of freedom and yes children on fire can be funny if presented properly but comedy this isnt
this is the very lowest underbelly of the underground and not ment for those who "dont get it" or dont like it,thats not an excuse just the facts
i suggest that you ignore and avoid such extreme modes of expression and art and stick to something safe
the use of the swaztika is ancient in finland,the finns fought and beat the hell out of both the nazis and soviets, that doesnt mean that this isnt NS or WP
@Leeccdoo2 He's just saying using Nazi/White Power stuff for shock value is a tired and lame gimmick in a nut shell. I personally think it's pretty stupid too but it is what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.
Thanks a ton for the upload! Sure as hell beats paying an absurd amount of money for one of the super special vinyl / 2xCass / ultra limited lathe bullahit reissues.
It may be offensive, it may be absurdly simple by today's standards, but sometimes that's really for the best. PE can get so complicated sometimes, it loses it's power, entertainment or even message, though I'm mroe concerned with the former two.
@celestialrailroad I think anyone listening to noise knows the point is usually to be as offensive, loud, and disturbing as possible and the title is most likely just that or giving a lesson in shocking things we may not want to remember about humanity but must. If you're listening to this shit or almost any extreme non-mainstream genre you should expect the most offensive content imaginable. Well it keeps anyone away who see's everything with such a simple viewpoint on subject matter in music.
@squezey1 I don't think that's the 'point' of noise at all - musicians have used noise in many different ways, not all of them by any means 'offensive' and 'disturbing' in terms of subject matter. Having said that, I'm not inclined to take XE's 'racism' at face value -- it seems more in keeping with F&V's relentlessly ugly, low-budget, grim 'aesthetic' -- which I like. All the same, I can understand if people are offended by it. It is offensive.
@celestialrailroad Well for some artists it may be. I'm just saying in a extreme genre so unrestricted expect it. Should have worded that differently. Many artists are just pure walls of meaningless sound or noisy darkness. Some artists actually do have personal meaning buried underneath it all.
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@OldSkinsNeverDie you missed the point of sid vicious' use of the swaztika,pure shock,considering what was done to europe by the nazis it's not hard to understand early punk rocks use of the swaztika and nazi images...also remember that freedom is not something can be partial,it must be total and complete or it isnt freedom at all,you may not like everything freedom allows but thats the price of freedom and yes children on fire can be funny if presented properly but comedy this isnt
RoilNoise 1 month ago
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RoilNoise 1 month ago
this is the very lowest underbelly of the underground and not ment for those who "dont get it" or dont like it,thats not an excuse just the facts
i suggest that you ignore and avoid such extreme modes of expression and art and stick to something safe
the use of the swaztika is ancient in finland,the finns fought and beat the hell out of both the nazis and soviets, that doesnt mean that this isnt NS or WP
RoilNoise 1 month ago
@OldSkinsNeverDie
I'm sorry but I really don't understand what it is that you're trying to say...
Leeccdoo2 1 month ago
@Leeccdoo2 He's just saying using Nazi/White Power stuff for shock value is a tired and lame gimmick in a nut shell. I personally think it's pretty stupid too but it is what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.
squezey1 1 month ago
Thanks a ton for the upload! Sure as hell beats paying an absurd amount of money for one of the super special vinyl / 2xCass / ultra limited lathe bullahit reissues.
It may be offensive, it may be absurdly simple by today's standards, but sometimes that's really for the best. PE can get so complicated sometimes, it loses it's power, entertainment or even message, though I'm mroe concerned with the former two.
PsionikMushroom 2 months ago
I must admit this is a jaw-dropping piece of raw power electronics, but a tricky one to *share with others* ...
celestialrailroad 8 months ago
@celestialrailroad I think anyone listening to noise knows the point is usually to be as offensive, loud, and disturbing as possible and the title is most likely just that or giving a lesson in shocking things we may not want to remember about humanity but must. If you're listening to this shit or almost any extreme non-mainstream genre you should expect the most offensive content imaginable. Well it keeps anyone away who see's everything with such a simple viewpoint on subject matter in music.
squezey1 6 months ago
@squezey1 I don't think that's the 'point' of noise at all - musicians have used noise in many different ways, not all of them by any means 'offensive' and 'disturbing' in terms of subject matter. Having said that, I'm not inclined to take XE's 'racism' at face value -- it seems more in keeping with F&V's relentlessly ugly, low-budget, grim 'aesthetic' -- which I like. All the same, I can understand if people are offended by it. It is offensive.
celestialrailroad 3 months ago
@celestialrailroad Well for some artists it may be. I'm just saying in a extreme genre so unrestricted expect it. Should have worded that differently. Many artists are just pure walls of meaningless sound or noisy darkness. Some artists actually do have personal meaning buried underneath it all.
squezey1 3 months ago
@celestialrailroad
Ditto. I'll admit, not half a year ago, the politics alone meant you couldn't pay me to pick up a copy.
Nowadays, stuff like this and Brethren makes me reconsider how I view music and what I look for in it.
ExcessiveSpareTime 3 months ago
Heilige!!
BAGMANNOISE 8 months ago