Waterboys - Old England

[gefan3]

I remember listening to this at the time of release and thinking something along the lines of; "Well, at least it can't get much worse".

With the benefit of a great deal of hindsight, that may have been a mistake.

[Msskeletonkey1]

I've gotta get this album!

[lyonslaforet]

@Msskeletonkey1 Try also to get A Pagan Place (1984) and Fisherman's Blues (1988)!

[hoops814]

and he sticks his flag where it dont belong,true

[sixchildren100]

Grrrrrrrrrrreat tune looooove it (((...

[hej513]

What is this song about?

[MrDevo5]

@hej513 that state england is in. this song is from 1985 god knows what they'd sing about now :-(

[AlRoyds]

@alistermatheson If you look at the facts, Scotland cuts it's cloth within a budget granted by our Westminister rulers - despite the billions of Scottish oil revenue Westminister has wasted, whether it be on Trident or illegal wars. And I'll tell you this Mathie boy, with your Scottish surname, whether you want us or not, we'll be on our way shortly!

[heliot58]

I am an American who has always admired the English people. I always felt strongly and believed that if America and England stayed together as allies and friends, that no one could ever take our freedom away. I still believe this. The idea that this English Nation, as i have known and trusted for all my life is dying just breaks my heart.

[slmorganwalker]

@heliot58 Perhaps the time has come for people to stop the flag waving and get behind some shared values. The average American, English, Scottish or Iranian has more in common than our rulers would have us believe. As long as we can be jerked by our collars because of some perceived threat to our national interests there will be war. Accept nothing. Question everything.

[heliot58]

@slmorganwalker Well said sir! Thank you for your comment. I just love this song from one of my fav bands

[leverellis]

And journalists are dignified - a beautiful, wierd juxtiposition. But lets face it...if we do not work towards that,(hysterical as it may seem care of Murdock/Fox/NoW rubbish) we will be at the mercy of a police state(Cameron is working hard at that) that would have given even Thatcher a wet dream.

[Bobby01983]

rest in peace

[gemslie]

My son was born in 95 and he is just getting to the age where he can appreciate some of my fave music. My love and I can listen to this over and over and love it every time!!

[Willburys]

i love the Band and the Song

[johnny521ful]

I wonder WHAT the Wave...symbollically mean's...but with this I Wave back!!! Old England,,,,I enjoy visiting London and Glastonbury!!

[nevets4ever]

The opening bars....you know, you just know this is going to be a great song.

[bundy643]

heroin eyes heroin eyes

[cosmicrider287]

another spectacular song from an all time classic album.

[janstefans]

i feeling with you England, for the last weekends episod from Norway

[louisejody]

Yes England is The Greatest Country, that's why we are being invaded by foriegners.I love my country and would never leave England but this tune I have loved since the 80's and it's still so true, heroin is ruining this country. I say that as a heroin addict for 25yrs, they need to deal with the underlying problems, the deprivation and poverty.

[MsAnnestube]

I can re-picture the black&white film of Oliver Twist with this poem.....in old grey London or some backward's alley where children stare...with druggy eyes....terrible to be stuck like that I bet. Only the political party can change the happiness...financially. maybe ignore tax collector's. I mean why give your hard earned cash to taxmen who actually are taking away your piggy bank savings!

[MrBaza23]

Gavid cameron, listen well to this song.

He steals from me and he lies to you, still he sings an empire song, He keeps his navy strong and sticks his flag where it arent belong, Where criminals are televised and politicians fraternised...journalists are dignified and everyone is civilised and children stare with heroin eyes...old England is dying.

[ZtDreamRider]

England is still the greatest countries in the world. Its up there with Australia.

[callicolady]

England is defo goin tits-up - Mike Scott was right.....and i'm English!

[1wildkelt]

Great song. And although I shouldn't get into the idiotic debate, Old England started dying on 19th October 1781 when us Yanks kicked the Brits out of the the Colonies. But rest assured, Old America is dying now too.

[BozInOz2010]

Goosebumps. Haven't heard this for nearly twenty years. Takes me back to a very pagan place :-)

[steveisacunt1]

THIS IS NOT AN ANTI-ENGLAND SONG

[ILAN2187]

old europe is dying long ago muslem take over no more europe so sad

[Nynorskmannen]

@ILAN2187 fucking retard

[ILAN2187]

@Nynorskmannen i know its not about muslim but england collapse you moran

[Nynorskmannen]

@ILAN2187

You're still a fucking idiot. Muslims aren't taking over, stupid people like you are. That's why this world is going downhill.

[ILAN2187]

@Nynorskmannen i wish muslim will burn europe thats what happens when you ungratefuls choose to support muslim [ palestinians ] over friend [ israel ]

[Nynorskmannen]

@ILAN2187

Ignorance is bliss. If you think the Israelis are saints, spare a couple of hours and do some research on the subject. If you're not one of those overly religious, Jew-supporting Christians the US are so famous for (or a Jew, for that matter), I think you'll change your mind.

[MRJokieJoker]

@Nynorskmannen you now what i'am not for usa or for moslisms either, i hate them both MOSLIMS because they are to religious, you may nothing, you are even not free to do what you want + the woman are discriminate they can't say nothing because if they do she wil beating up + moslims can't accept there lose, they always begins to fight in soccer, they have almost burn are soccer arena in belgium it was because galatasaray was almost losing against anderlecht, en so are almost all moslims

[MRJokieJoker]

@Nynorskmannen en the reason why i'am not for usa is because they are a bunch of fucking racist, + the always interfere with other country's it's like they want rule over whole the world, + about the racist, i read some documents en they say that in america every year 8000 innocent negro are lock't up in prison, my conclusion is you can only make it in america, if you have important connections so land of opportunities my ass !

[MRJokieJoker]

@ILAN2187 you now what i'am not for usa or for moslisms either, i hate them both MOSLIMS because they are to religious, you may nothing, you are even not free to do what you want + the woman are discriminate they can't say nothing because if they do she wil beating up + moslims can't accept there lose, they always begins to fight in soccer, they have almost burn are soccer arena in belgium it was because galatasaray was almost losing against anderlecht, en so are almost all moslims

[ILAN2187]

@MRJokieJoker i dont care anymore its up to god

[MRJokieJoker]

@ILAN2187 yeah your right

[ILAN2187]

@ILAN2187 i know its not about muslim you moran

[skyriderize]

Good Lad

[johntanerin]

just like life

[BobbyEnergy]

Nothing dies...if you put your life into it..plant flowers and trees...watch the sun beams..watch the waves pour water on your face.. create and dance sing and romance...read the book "green for life" :).

[thefunkygeezer]

@BobbyEnergy

Thank you my friend. I was just reaching for the rope then

[Shad0wplay]

Old Norway is dying.

[yosmokeyjoe]

sticks his flag where it dont belong....a cunT OF A COUNTRY

[kier1952]

this song just about sums it all up.

[mynthon11]

FIRST TIME LISTENING WATERBOYS and this stuff is mind blowing...Im so high and that singer is soul

[alistermatheson]

Always loved this song and its not just because im Scottish !

[vikes65]

@alistermatheson

I have always loved this song, and I am English. :)

[silenceatsunrise]

@alistermatheson

..and sung (and written by) a Scotsman of course! 'Old England' may be dying but a 'New England' will be born I'm sure. One thing that will never change though is the English will always pay for the Scots through the tax. ;-)

[troobluu]

@silenceatsunrise lol another deluded soul check the facts before you open your big guf gob

[POLKATURKEY]

@alistermatheson Old Scotland is dead

[alistermatheson]

@POLKATURKEY Correct  .

[sativa303]

Anarchy ;)

[netasteig]

great song in tradition of bob dylan.

[SuperJimduffy]

its so so true

[andinoble]

we played this cassette to death, at school and later, when we'd got our driving licence, driving around West Scotland. This sounds weird to me now because it is missing the over-played warped sound of an abused cassette :-) Beautiful. Thanks for posting.

[ginasusie]

hopefully the vuvuzelas are a swan's song for England this world cup

[1101964darren]

A sad beautiful song !

[stuross74]

to borrow a line from uncle monty,''shat on by tories and shovelled up by labour''...thats england

[trellzaboppin]

@stuross74 Some of us are born English, but, hey, dont knock it... The working class have always been shat upon... regardless of where in the UK.... Correct? My fave band of the 80's... withoubt a doubt.

[MrTheDoof]

the best music that ever came from edinburgh university.

[scorpiotimothy]

We are ALL a "Has-Been "-country..." Dont feel bad, at least we have beautiful music to listen to..

while we collapse...

[gsdotgs]

@scorpiotimothy tragically well said.

[kthomson7788]

epic, so true we're a hasbeen country who'll eventually be no more...........very sad

[GEOLAMAFLO]

its spiffing........

[timberplod66]

ace!!!!!!

[Backspace1957]

The posted lyric "Where the time stained of england flies"

Should read "Where the well loved flag of England flies"

[superal72]

the best sax solo ive ever heard ,the lyrics and the song are also fantastic ,a wonderful scottish wordsmith

[benunwell]

Certainly is Major.

[majorsnag]

it is a fuckin' top tune int it mate