guys please what we are all forgetting is .....yes that was defiantly a chick standing with the guy more specifically the one that nodded last. its the eyes
Hmm good point. Never noticed that. So both Gondor and Rohan.... Rohan's helmets and overall culture and lifestyle is more celtic/nordic though, but I see what you mean. They have Scythian scale mail, scythians were an Iranian people. Its just the Gondor helmets that really make an impression of something the troops of Darius the Great might have worn.
No, corinthian helmets have only little slits for the eyes, and they have a long nose piece, plus they are not pointed at the top like a Persian or Gondorian helmet.
@susumu07 Persian helmets are only similar to Gondor's in the aspect that they are pointed, nothing else, google corinthian helmet and see for yourself. Of course I am speaking of earlier corinthian helmets, not the later larger ones.
The most "Persian" armor in LOTR is actually the Gondor armor. Especially the tall pointed helmets, that's a Persian design which was later copied by scythians, goths and some early European cavalry. There's nothing Persian about Peter Jackson's easterlings, their armor looks like some bizarre samurai/korean mishmash with metal "rice-picker" hats for helmets. Rohan armor is a mix of celtic and viking designs. PJ's Haradrim look either Arab OR Maori - they're not even consistent!
@RASASman dont know what you are talking about, easterlings looked different than this in the books, the movie did a good job on their appearnce, but they looked nothign like this in the decription of the books, more viking barbarian like in the book
@KulakxFilms The book never said that they looked like barbarians or even vikings. It says that they have beards. How do you know the easterlings don't have beards in the films? I think that everyone(including mega book fans like myself) picture easterlings to look like the ones in the films.
@KulakxFilms honestly, i am beggining to believe that these are the Haradrim, because the Easterlings played a bigger role in the north of middle earth, actualy im pretty sure they are Haradrim, notice that ambush in the two towers, the mumakil, they had similar armor on with the haradrim symbol, i think they are now mistaken in it, even though they easterlings did play a roll in the war, i dont think they are at all shown in the movie, just harad
@KulakxFilms NOT Haradrim. The book even says so. The book mentions the easterlings marching at the gate not the haradrim. They do look the same especially at the mumakil scene but notice, that none of the haradrim are wearing any helmets just turbans or whatever theyre called. Sorry to dissapoint you but every website/game/pretty much any Lordoftherings material shows the easterlings as the ones that march through the black gate. the book backs up my point. Harad are not shown going throughgate
@mcownalot yes i know that, but they wear the exact same armor as the Harad, so it can be safe to say that is the Harad replacing the Easterlings of that scene, just like they replaced Glorfindel with Arwen in the fellowship of the ring during the horse chase with the nazgul, so im 100% that is the harad, and the easterlings were just probably going to be put up but with all the differnt types of humans they just decided it would be easiier to fill the spots up with harad
@KulakxFilms It is not the Haradrim, every source there is states that the ones that march into the black gate are easterlings. The movie commentary even states that the ones who march through are easterlings. i understand your confusion and i apologize for arguing back but, lol the easterlings are my favorite and i love how they look in this movie. Second: how do you know they just didn't trade with each other? in the 3rd film the haradrim are not wearing East. armor
@KulakxFilms sorry double post. The easterlings ARE shown in the thrid movie showing their gold armor while attack minas tirith. the haradrim however are not shown to be wearing any of that delicious golden armor. I think PJ just tried to save a little $ by Giving the haradrim some of the easterling armor. BTW: on another note the haradrim do not walk in formation in the films yet the ones that enter the black gates do? haradrim? i think not!
@mcownalot im not sure if you watched the TWO TOWERS, with the scene of haradrim with oliphants or mumakil, but they had the same armour, just with more cloth, and they had the harad symbol, so i am saying its safe to say that the easterlings in this movie are an advanced unit of harad, not easterlings its self.
@KulakxFilms i wouldn't be posting this if i hadnt seen it, but it is confirmed that they are the easterlings. there really is no point in arguing if you have no sources to back you up. Peter Jackson and Tolkein said that the ones entering the black gate were easterlings and not haradrim. and.. another point to notice, the haradrim in this movie are light skinned compared to the easterling. so im saying its pretty dangerous to say that they are haradrim. because they are really easterlings
@KulakxFilms now that i can remember, go watch the movie and put subtitles or captions on. it says when the easterlings are chanting:( Easterlings chanting). or something like that
@mcownalot i mean, they have the same armor as harad, but then are called easterlings, and like, its realy a cluster fuck, and i honeslty dont think they care
@KulakxFilms what? Easterlings are supposed to look oriental and well... they do. that gold armor and that gold hemlet looks pretty oriental to me. I think its the haradrim who wear the same armor as the easterlings. I agree with you in the point that they screwed up a little with the armor. But hey, maybe they didn't screw up maybe they just mixed the armor a bit to show that Rhun and harad were allies and that they had trade relations or something. Those are easterlings though.
The Easterlings are awesome. Hilarious though to look at the comments some people have been leaving about this scene. It's suppose to capture suspense and fear, not open a 6 month debate about world history hahaha
@RCMRobot don't worry it seems the debate is over after actual evidence was left behind to resolve the matter and to leave no room for argument about the easterlings and ending the debate
The Easterlings were so coooool! I just wish they had a little more screen time, even though you could see them in the background of the Minas Tirrith courtyard battle.
The easterlings weren't inspired by Persian soldiers, the only thing that semi compares to the Persian empire would be skin colour and eye color.
Keep in mind I'm speaking of what Tolkien created, not what Peter Jackson though would be "cool", no matter how many people think so the movie is not the lore, the books are.
If you were looking for an enemy faction that kind of resembles the Persians it would he the Haradrim, they were inspired by both Persian and also Aztec warriors.
@RASASman Mhm. As you can tell, I don't particularly care whether or not this gets resolved. I told you the prerequisites, and you refused them in lieu of jerking off all over the comment section.
At least it was funny to watch you gush with post after post whenever I'd toss out 30 second comment.
@AntagonisticEnemy Take it up with 'Rasaman.' He started spamming posts as soon as I made an offhanded remark about the inspiration for the Easterling armor. I tried to move it to PM to prevent a pile of junk posts, but...
Hell, you can take a look for yourself. It's kind of funny to read.
@RASASman See, here's the thing: I wrote up a PM, and was lucky enough to copy it on the off chance that you had internet training-wheels preventing people from messaging you. It's a single message. You, on the other hand, are writing piles of comments, not one larger one and then splitting it up. How "easy" posting is for you is completely irrelevant.
So by all means, continue as you are. Blackguard seems to have turned against you already. I've done my work: you simply refuse to accept it.
@RASASman Yike ease up man. I was just mentioning them because it just proves both your points. The Scythians were in persia and had scaled armor somewhat like what you see here which kind of proves EB's point, as did the Greco-Roman heavy cavalry known as cataphracts which proves your point. So essentially you're both right, it's just a matter of what time period you're refering too.
@RASASman Know what? I'll even add to the reply I have easily transmittable via PM. As I said before, the only thing in the way of this debate continuing (which you claim to want) is your refusal to accept my counterpoints.
@RASASman And you still prattle on, for some reason. I've given one condition for continuing this argument, and that's to continue via PM. It's a dramatically simpler format, there's no character limit, and it at least helps *me* keep all your comments straight when you make half a dozen responses to any single reply I make.
So in other words, you "insist" that you want to continue, yet refuse to actually do the one thing that would allow us to continue. What's that say, hm?
@RASASman Oh, you left proof on my channel? I see more proof that you're a raging dyslexic. I don't see any other 'proof,' though. I haven't even checked my channel in weeks, so your pathetic "waah u deletad dem" excuse is either a flat out lie, or hilarious user error on your part.
...scared to be beaten in public? This is a comparatively small youtube video. No one is watching. No one cares except you. I just want to use PMs because the format is easier, a fact you can't seem to grasp.
@RASASman Mhm. I already told you, plain and simple: I'll gladly continue the debate if you're willing to do so via PM. I wrote a PM and, ah, lo and behold: you've set up your account so it refuses PM's.
So, since you're entirely willing to make a move to an *easier to use* medium, and you're apparently too dense to distinguish the word 'electric,' I didn't bother to reply any further.
If you want to accept PMs now, by all means. I've still got my message saved. If not, no skin off my nose.
@RASASman Okay. If you want to leave, by all means. All I asked for was a change in medium (entirely reasonable) to make things easier for both of us, and to reduce page clutter. I'm more than willing to address your points: the only issue is that you actively refuse to allow the answers to get through.
Since you seem entirely unwilling to do so, my only guess is that you're terrified of actually hearing my replies in case I happen to be right.
@RASASman Why should I bother with that? There's an unnecessarily restrictive character limit, and it clutters the page with unrelated comments. I've no reason to be against continuing in private, since I don't care about making a spectacle of a debate.
Want to continue? Great. Change your settings and we'll proceed.
@RASASman What, because Turkey and Rome both had empires? That means practically nothing. It'd be like assuming that I go to work dressed the same way as a construction worker because both of us own cars.
@RASASman No shit, Sherlock. I never said you were. I said she was light skinned, but still clearly not Caucasian (read: white).
...I see. You're 'Aryan'. Quite possibly the most loaded ethnic description of contemporary history. You know that barely anyone remembers the actual ethnic qualities it describes, right? The only thing most people get from "I'm Aryan" is the implication that you're a racist.
If anybody is wandering what the easterlings are chanting; "Za dashu snaku Zigur, Durbgu nazgshu, Durbgu dashshu!" (Hail, Sauron, Lord of the Ring, Lord of the Earth!)
@lolhelios Hmm...fair enough. I can hear the shouts alright, but I can't hear the enunciation as you've written it. Then again, I'm guessing that the men of Rhun pronounce things differently than a native English speaker would :P
I also made note before that the Easterlings aren't purely Persia-inspired. Judging by their shields, accompanying weapons, and practically being built for phalanx formations, there's a heavy Roman Empire influence at hand.
@RASASman Ugh, good Christ...just because you specifically have light skin doesn't make it an ethnic norm. Hell, I dated a girl with Iranian (the closest thing to Persian you'll find nowadays) parents, and she had relatively light skin. That hardly meant she was Caucasian.
And yes, the Easterlings (and Haradim, too) were dark skinned. One of the Haradim is unmasked during an ambush, and he's played by a Middle Eastern/Arabic actor. And the Easterlings are described as tall and dark skinned.
@RASASman ...just to establish it right now, I'm talking about Persia when it was still called Persia. Like, thousands of years ago. Not right now. That's clear, right?
@turk1991turkboi First, I think their skin looks persian, but anyway. The Huns were a large group of people that are usually called a nomadic people from the Mongolia area, and therefore a turkic people, but they were actually just a big mix of people with loads of different origins, all the way from Mongolia to central Europe, and most of the huns that we know of were actually from the area around Ukraine, and many Germanic peoples joined the "Hunnic movement" too, it wasn't really a people.
Anyone here play 40k? If I had to assign a sound to the unearthly and unnerving Dirge Casters that the forces of Chaos use on their vehicles to demoralize their foes...
Yeah. The Rhun and Harad battlecries blasting from them would be pants-shittingly scary.
@turk1991turkboi Both Harad and Rhun are mix ups of the far east and middle east, and Harad also has a bit of african in it hence african warriors and oliphaunts.
@spycrabzftw They're both mostly middle-eastern inspired, from what I've seen. The Haradim wear cloth headwraps and have war elephants, as well as being played by generally Arab-region actors (you see one's face during the Gondor ranger ambush), while the men of Rhun are similarly dark-skinned, but with a combination of Persian Empire armor and Roman centurion-style shields. After all, they're spearmen: a phalanx formation would make sense for them.
Lol, since the first time I saw this, I've always been disturbed by the fact that they come from the south in this video, and I saw this for the first time when I was like eight or something...
something is wrong....the easterlings come from Rhun, and Rhun lies in the North-East. then why do the easterlings come to the Black Gate from the south?
@xXSARS48Xx if they couldnt get there from the north, then they should have walked to the east and then to the south, but from that side you can march into mordor, so its still not right
The horns and chanting of the soldiers are, in my opinion, among the best sounds in the entire Rings trilogy of films. The nasgul screams in ROTK are pretty decent as well, as is the sound of Denethor being burned alive. Just try listening to that with headphones on and see whether it gives you the chills.
@turk1991turkboi you must be one dumb retarded fuck who mentioned anything about russian an turks?? first of all you said rhun has the oliphant you fucking retard lol learn your shit before you talk pakistani fuck
easterlings look elite warriors. no wonder gondor lost many territories to the easterlings. As for the haradrim..... they have olyphants and they are effective but the haradrim foot soldier look gay
@97Wc Yeah they were excellent , however the easterlings are very weak against Gondor with a king , that is why Gondor won back all the territories they lost to Rhun as well as taking some of their lands . But man these guys were magnificent .
@MultiKillerBot how come in the movie and the book they needed a king to win. what will the gondorian king do??? what will it unite. it seemed there was nothing to unite and gondor would have just been the same without a king
@97Wc Gondor needed the old alliances back again , and to reform their kingdom entirely , Arnor is Gondors sister kingdom and Aragorn was made king of both , and Rohan was now able to help Gondor out more and vice versa .
@97Wc Well the dwarfs think of themselves most of the time so no and the elves are leaving middle earth so no , which means I am talking about men , meaning the dunaiden , rohans and the remaining people of Rhovanion .
which is funny cause i would always think sauron enslaving the entire world around their mountains and solidifying His power would only make the dwarves fight with men for themselves.
I really like what they were doing with the elves in the third age, gave a real impression that change was coming, and the elves knew that they had to go. though sometimes I just wish we got to see them fight more.
@fluffyzhangfei Um well the Dwarfs did ally themselves with the men of Dale and they became an ally of Gondor(This was after the war of the Ring though).
@RWVSALZBURG Well, they came from Ithilien, or maybe they came from south Rhûn, I thought it was strange too, but now I think they came from Khand or south Rhûn.
The Easterling military has that flare that most nations would KILL for. That call-and-response chant? Completely badass for the side that's using it, and causes mass brick-shitting in whatever enemy hears it.
Jesus Christ. Rhun and Harad's warchants put Gondor to shame. Why didn't they actually get deployed intelligently? The Haradim only got sent in once the orcs were routed, and...beats me what the men of Rhun were doing the whole time.
That's...astonishingly non-creepy considering how obscure it is. Then again, odd and frightening are two very different things. The former raises eyebrows, the latter turns stomachs.
are lyrics exist about the easterling war song ? :D
Gilgamesch1994 1 week ago
OH-RI-OH! YO---AH!
ksol1460tv 3 months ago
And they kept on marching... straight into mount doom, never to be seen again...
GarlandFraser 6 months ago
best part 0:15
CoolThumbMan 6 months ago
@RASASman Yeah but the Gondor helmet is mainly greek inspired (corinthian helms are very similar if you think about it).
TheDudeReborn 6 months ago
Anyone know if that chant is on the soundtrack?
NShomebase 8 months ago
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@NShomebase I'm curious about it too :S
TheProlup 7 months ago
guys please what we are all forgetting is .....yes that was defiantly a chick standing with the guy more specifically the one that nodded last. its the eyes
overlordbeelzemon 8 months ago
@RASASman
Hmm good point. Never noticed that. So both Gondor and Rohan.... Rohan's helmets and overall culture and lifestyle is more celtic/nordic though, but I see what you mean. They have Scythian scale mail, scythians were an Iranian people. Its just the Gondor helmets that really make an impression of something the troops of Darius the Great might have worn.
susumu07 8 months ago
@susumu07 The helm is mainly corinthian (greek).
TheDudeReborn 6 months ago
@TheDudeReborn
No, corinthian helmets have only little slits for the eyes, and they have a long nose piece, plus they are not pointed at the top like a Persian or Gondorian helmet.
susumu07 6 months ago
@susumu07 Persian helmets are only similar to Gondor's in the aspect that they are pointed, nothing else, google corinthian helmet and see for yourself. Of course I am speaking of earlier corinthian helmets, not the later larger ones.
TheDudeReborn 6 months ago
@RASASman
The most "Persian" armor in LOTR is actually the Gondor armor. Especially the tall pointed helmets, that's a Persian design which was later copied by scythians, goths and some early European cavalry. There's nothing Persian about Peter Jackson's easterlings, their armor looks like some bizarre samurai/korean mishmash with metal "rice-picker" hats for helmets. Rohan armor is a mix of celtic and viking designs. PJ's Haradrim look either Arab OR Maori - they're not even consistent!
susumu07 8 months ago
Why are eastern people always the bad guys?? -__-
VictumRoManius 9 months ago
@RASASman dont know what you are talking about, easterlings looked different than this in the books, the movie did a good job on their appearnce, but they looked nothign like this in the decription of the books, more viking barbarian like in the book
KulakxFilms 11 months ago
@KulakxFilms The book never said that they looked like barbarians or even vikings. It says that they have beards. How do you know the easterlings don't have beards in the films? I think that everyone(including mega book fans like myself) picture easterlings to look like the ones in the films.
mcownalot 11 months ago
@KulakxFilms honestly, i am beggining to believe that these are the Haradrim, because the Easterlings played a bigger role in the north of middle earth, actualy im pretty sure they are Haradrim, notice that ambush in the two towers, the mumakil, they had similar armor on with the haradrim symbol, i think they are now mistaken in it, even though they easterlings did play a roll in the war, i dont think they are at all shown in the movie, just harad
KulakxFilms 11 months ago
@KulakxFilms NOT Haradrim. The book even says so. The book mentions the easterlings marching at the gate not the haradrim. They do look the same especially at the mumakil scene but notice, that none of the haradrim are wearing any helmets just turbans or whatever theyre called. Sorry to dissapoint you but every website/game/pretty much any Lordoftherings material shows the easterlings as the ones that march through the black gate. the book backs up my point. Harad are not shown going throughgate
mcownalot 11 months ago
@mcownalot yes i know that, but they wear the exact same armor as the Harad, so it can be safe to say that is the Harad replacing the Easterlings of that scene, just like they replaced Glorfindel with Arwen in the fellowship of the ring during the horse chase with the nazgul, so im 100% that is the harad, and the easterlings were just probably going to be put up but with all the differnt types of humans they just decided it would be easiier to fill the spots up with harad
KulakxFilms 11 months ago
@KulakxFilms It is not the Haradrim, every source there is states that the ones that march into the black gate are easterlings. The movie commentary even states that the ones who march through are easterlings. i understand your confusion and i apologize for arguing back but, lol the easterlings are my favorite and i love how they look in this movie. Second: how do you know they just didn't trade with each other? in the 3rd film the haradrim are not wearing East. armor
mcownalot 11 months ago
@KulakxFilms sorry double post. The easterlings ARE shown in the thrid movie showing their gold armor while attack minas tirith. the haradrim however are not shown to be wearing any of that delicious golden armor. I think PJ just tried to save a little $ by Giving the haradrim some of the easterling armor. BTW: on another note the haradrim do not walk in formation in the films yet the ones that enter the black gates do? haradrim? i think not!
mcownalot 11 months ago
@mcownalot im not sure if you watched the TWO TOWERS, with the scene of haradrim with oliphants or mumakil, but they had the same armour, just with more cloth, and they had the harad symbol, so i am saying its safe to say that the easterlings in this movie are an advanced unit of harad, not easterlings its self.
KulakxFilms 11 months ago
@KulakxFilms i wouldn't be posting this if i hadnt seen it, but it is confirmed that they are the easterlings. there really is no point in arguing if you have no sources to back you up. Peter Jackson and Tolkein said that the ones entering the black gate were easterlings and not haradrim. and.. another point to notice, the haradrim in this movie are light skinned compared to the easterling. so im saying its pretty dangerous to say that they are haradrim. because they are really easterlings
mcownalot 11 months ago
@KulakxFilms now that i can remember, go watch the movie and put subtitles or captions on. it says when the easterlings are chanting:( Easterlings chanting). or something like that
mcownalot 11 months ago
@mcownalot yeah i know, its a huge mistake they did, in my opinions i still think its harad, and that they just orientated the evil men realy badly,
KulakxFilms 11 months ago
@mcownalot i mean, they have the same armor as harad, but then are called easterlings, and like, its realy a cluster fuck, and i honeslty dont think they care
KulakxFilms 11 months ago
@KulakxFilms what? Easterlings are supposed to look oriental and well... they do. that gold armor and that gold hemlet looks pretty oriental to me. I think its the haradrim who wear the same armor as the easterlings. I agree with you in the point that they screwed up a little with the armor. But hey, maybe they didn't screw up maybe they just mixed the armor a bit to show that Rhun and harad were allies and that they had trade relations or something. Those are easterlings though.
mcownalot 11 months ago
@KulakxFilms
That is correct. Both the Haradrim and the Easterlings are MEN FROM THE EAST. :)
JinKazama92 10 months ago
@JinKazama92 Haradrim are from the south!!
BearGryllsIsAwesome 9 months ago
The Easterlings are awesome. Hilarious though to look at the comments some people have been leaving about this scene. It's suppose to capture suspense and fear, not open a 6 month debate about world history hahaha
RCMRobot 1 year ago
@RCMRobot don't worry it seems the debate is over after actual evidence was left behind to resolve the matter and to leave no room for argument about the easterlings and ending the debate
meteorFIRE1 11 months ago
easterlings can beat the gondorians easily, Rhun forever
vcsa1329 1 year ago
Go Rhún!^^
93Archangel 1 year ago
The Easterlings were so coooool! I just wish they had a little more screen time, even though you could see them in the background of the Minas Tirrith courtyard battle.
DarthVaduh574 1 year ago
@RASASman
The easterlings weren't inspired by Persian soldiers, the only thing that semi compares to the Persian empire would be skin colour and eye color.
Keep in mind I'm speaking of what Tolkien created, not what Peter Jackson though would be "cool", no matter how many people think so the movie is not the lore, the books are.
If you were looking for an enemy faction that kind of resembles the Persians it would he the Haradrim, they were inspired by both Persian and also Aztec warriors.
gunzt3rkenfu92 1 year ago
Easterlings:MARCH MEN!
Orcs:HEY LOOK ITS THE EASTERLINGS!
Orcs:YAY THERE HERE FOR EASTER!:3
roccomedy 1 year ago
Easterlings where some of the most bravest and deadliest force in middle earth, "sadly" the chieftains only sent a small force of easterlings
1993truls 1 year ago
@1993truls on the middle earth map it s no signed where they leave
hamsikElavezzi 1 year ago
@RASASman Mhm. As you can tell, I don't particularly care whether or not this gets resolved. I told you the prerequisites, and you refused them in lieu of jerking off all over the comment section.
At least it was funny to watch you gush with post after post whenever I'd toss out 30 second comment.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
Wow look at all the rage in the comment section. Who cares the easterlings look cool but are fictional
AntagonisticEnemy 1 year ago
@AntagonisticEnemy Take it up with 'Rasaman.' He started spamming posts as soon as I made an offhanded remark about the inspiration for the Easterling armor. I tried to move it to PM to prevent a pile of junk posts, but...
Hell, you can take a look for yourself. It's kind of funny to read.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman See, here's the thing: I wrote up a PM, and was lucky enough to copy it on the off chance that you had internet training-wheels preventing people from messaging you. It's a single message. You, on the other hand, are writing piles of comments, not one larger one and then splitting it up. How "easy" posting is for you is completely irrelevant.
So by all means, continue as you are. Blackguard seems to have turned against you already. I've done my work: you simply refuse to accept it.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman Yike ease up man. I was just mentioning them because it just proves both your points. The Scythians were in persia and had scaled armor somewhat like what you see here which kind of proves EB's point, as did the Greco-Roman heavy cavalry known as cataphracts which proves your point. So essentially you're both right, it's just a matter of what time period you're refering too.
HextorianBlackguard 1 year ago
@RASASman Know what? I'll even add to the reply I have easily transmittable via PM. As I said before, the only thing in the way of this debate continuing (which you claim to want) is your refusal to accept my counterpoints.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman And you still prattle on, for some reason. I've given one condition for continuing this argument, and that's to continue via PM. It's a dramatically simpler format, there's no character limit, and it at least helps *me* keep all your comments straight when you make half a dozen responses to any single reply I make.
So in other words, you "insist" that you want to continue, yet refuse to actually do the one thing that would allow us to continue. What's that say, hm?
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman Don't forget Greco-Roman and Scythian Cataphracts
HextorianBlackguard 1 year ago
@RASASman Oh, you left proof on my channel? I see more proof that you're a raging dyslexic. I don't see any other 'proof,' though. I haven't even checked my channel in weeks, so your pathetic "waah u deletad dem" excuse is either a flat out lie, or hilarious user error on your part.
...scared to be beaten in public? This is a comparatively small youtube video. No one is watching. No one cares except you. I just want to use PMs because the format is easier, a fact you can't seem to grasp.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman Mhm. I already told you, plain and simple: I'll gladly continue the debate if you're willing to do so via PM. I wrote a PM and, ah, lo and behold: you've set up your account so it refuses PM's.
So, since you're entirely willing to make a move to an *easier to use* medium, and you're apparently too dense to distinguish the word 'electric,' I didn't bother to reply any further.
If you want to accept PMs now, by all means. I've still got my message saved. If not, no skin off my nose.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman Okay. If you want to leave, by all means. All I asked for was a change in medium (entirely reasonable) to make things easier for both of us, and to reduce page clutter. I'm more than willing to address your points: the only issue is that you actively refuse to allow the answers to get through.
Since you seem entirely unwilling to do so, my only guess is that you're terrified of actually hearing my replies in case I happen to be right.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman Why should I bother with that? There's an unnecessarily restrictive character limit, and it clutters the page with unrelated comments. I've no reason to be against continuing in private, since I don't care about making a spectacle of a debate.
Want to continue? Great. Change your settings and we'll proceed.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman Lemme guess: you can't bear the thought of people on the internet being able to contact you out of the public eye?
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman Hm. What do you know? PM client lost it. Oh well. Took me a couple minutes anyway. Nothing lost.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
leave it to sam to nearly fuck everyone over with his clumsiness and stupidity
ssjn4vegeta 1 year ago
@RASASman *sigh* I'm just going to switch to PM. That fine with you?
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman What, because Turkey and Rome both had empires? That means practically nothing. It'd be like assuming that I go to work dressed the same way as a construction worker because both of us own cars.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman No shit, Sherlock. I never said you were. I said she was light skinned, but still clearly not Caucasian (read: white).
...I see. You're 'Aryan'. Quite possibly the most loaded ethnic description of contemporary history. You know that barely anyone remembers the actual ethnic qualities it describes, right? The only thing most people get from "I'm Aryan" is the implication that you're a racist.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
If anybody is wandering what the easterlings are chanting; "Za dashu snaku Zigur, Durbgu nazgshu, Durbgu dashshu!" (Hail, Sauron, Lord of the Ring, Lord of the Earth!)
lolhelios 1 year ago
@lolhelios Not to sound unappreciative, but that doesn't really sound like what they're saying. Maybe it's just too distant to hear clearly.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@electricbayonet2
It's true, it's quite hard to hear.
the loud voice shouts za dashu snaku Zigur, and the soldiers respond in the background with durbgu nazgshu and durbgu dashshu.
lolhelios 1 year ago
@lolhelios Hmm...fair enough. I can hear the shouts alright, but I can't hear the enunciation as you've written it. Then again, I'm guessing that the men of Rhun pronounce things differently than a native English speaker would :P
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@electricbayonet2
haha, yeah that's completely true (:
lolhelios 1 year ago
@RASASman Continued
I also made note before that the Easterlings aren't purely Persia-inspired. Judging by their shields, accompanying weapons, and practically being built for phalanx formations, there's a heavy Roman Empire influence at hand.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman Ugh, good Christ...just because you specifically have light skin doesn't make it an ethnic norm. Hell, I dated a girl with Iranian (the closest thing to Persian you'll find nowadays) parents, and she had relatively light skin. That hardly meant she was Caucasian.
And yes, the Easterlings (and Haradim, too) were dark skinned. One of the Haradim is unmasked during an ambush, and he's played by a Middle Eastern/Arabic actor. And the Easterlings are described as tall and dark skinned.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@RASASman ...just to establish it right now, I'm talking about Persia when it was still called Persia. Like, thousands of years ago. Not right now. That's clear, right?
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
Pretty scary !
Lundahlium 1 year ago
Their armory is awesome.
3tastudent 1 year ago
I want the march sound 4my alert clock : D
SkynetVita 1 year ago 21
@turk1991turkboi Lul, glad to see I made sense. :)
Oscararon 1 year ago
@turk1991turkboi First, I think their skin looks persian, but anyway. The Huns were a large group of people that are usually called a nomadic people from the Mongolia area, and therefore a turkic people, but they were actually just a big mix of people with loads of different origins, all the way from Mongolia to central Europe, and most of the huns that we know of were actually from the area around Ukraine, and many Germanic peoples joined the "Hunnic movement" too, it wasn't really a people.
Oscararon 1 year ago
Goosebumps every single time!! Such powerful chanting!
UkiWoDao 1 year ago
ready to strike anywhere
easterling the best legion of mordor army
455cui 1 year ago
damnit, does anyone know what the Easterlings are shouting at the orcs??
lolhelios 1 year ago
Anyone here play 40k? If I had to assign a sound to the unearthly and unnerving Dirge Casters that the forces of Chaos use on their vehicles to demoralize their foes...
Yeah. The Rhun and Harad battlecries blasting from them would be pants-shittingly scary.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
Hey what are they saying as their chant.
falloutgodTeutonicL 1 year ago
@turk1991turkboi Both Harad and Rhun are mix ups of the far east and middle east, and Harad also has a bit of african in it hence african warriors and oliphaunts.
spycrabzftw 1 year ago
@spycrabzftw They're both mostly middle-eastern inspired, from what I've seen. The Haradim wear cloth headwraps and have war elephants, as well as being played by generally Arab-region actors (you see one's face during the Gondor ranger ambush), while the men of Rhun are similarly dark-skinned, but with a combination of Persian Empire armor and Roman centurion-style shields. After all, they're spearmen: a phalanx formation would make sense for them.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago
@turk1991turkboi Persian indeed, look very persian, don't look so turkic to me though.
Oscararon 1 year ago
@turk1991turkboi Hun =/= Turks
Oscararon 1 year ago
Lol, since the first time I saw this, I've always been disturbed by the fact that they come from the south in this video, and I saw this for the first time when I was like eight or something...
Oscararon 1 year ago
Fucking love that Easterling Chant. inflicts fear.
YoungAz1 1 year ago
something is wrong....the easterlings come from Rhun, and Rhun lies in the North-East. then why do the easterlings come to the Black Gate from the south?
flaarisse 1 year ago
@flaarisse possibly they couldn\t get there from the north? xD or they were stationed to the south...
xXSARS48Xx 1 year ago
@xXSARS48Xx if they couldnt get there from the north, then they should have walked to the east and then to the south, but from that side you can march into mordor, so its still not right
flaarisse 1 year ago
@flaarisse They got lost
Acesahn 1 year ago
The horns and chanting of the soldiers are, in my opinion, among the best sounds in the entire Rings trilogy of films. The nasgul screams in ROTK are pretty decent as well, as is the sound of Denethor being burned alive. Just try listening to that with headphones on and see whether it gives you the chills.
BlindAspie 1 year ago
2:06 Those look a lot like Arab eyes <3
Xiahoud 1 year ago
i love that song they shout
floodlock123 1 year ago
I like the orc that blows the horn..
Ashesofour 1 year ago
@turk1991turkboi you must be one dumb retarded fuck who mentioned anything about russian an turks?? first of all you said rhun has the oliphant you fucking retard lol learn your shit before you talk pakistani fuck
YoungAz1 1 year ago
Regha Tee Orda Tee( Woooo) Iyah(Wooo Hah)Ighaaaa I tried lmaoooo Rhun is epic
YoungAz1 1 year ago 3
@YoungAz1 At the end the singing "We fighting for Mordor" ;)
Jannik94able 1 year ago
@turk1991turkboi are you retarded these are easterlings dumshit the army with the oliphants are the haradrim dumb fuck
YoungAz1 1 year ago
id shit myself if i heard that captain and the horns
YoungAz1 1 year ago
2:28 We fighting for Mordor ÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁÁáááááááááá
CZPredator 1 year ago
behold! the golden kingdom of the men of Rhun..... so powerful...so great and.....so LITTLE screan time o___o
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97Wc 1 year ago
easterlings look elite warriors. no wonder gondor lost many territories to the easterlings. As for the haradrim..... they have olyphants and they are effective but the haradrim foot soldier look gay
97Wc 1 year ago
@97Wc Yeah they were excellent , however the easterlings are very weak against Gondor with a king , that is why Gondor won back all the territories they lost to Rhun as well as taking some of their lands . But man these guys were magnificent .
MultiKillerBot 1 year ago
@MultiKillerBot how come in the movie and the book they needed a king to win. what will the gondorian king do??? what will it unite. it seemed there was nothing to unite and gondor would have just been the same without a king
97Wc 1 year ago
@97Wc Gondor needed the old alliances back again , and to reform their kingdom entirely , Arnor is Gondors sister kingdom and Aragorn was made king of both , and Rohan was now able to help Gondor out more and vice versa .
MultiKillerBot 1 year ago
@MultiKillerBot what old alliances exactly.... elves. dwarfs. men???
97Wc 1 year ago
@97Wc Well the dwarfs think of themselves most of the time so no and the elves are leaving middle earth so no , which means I am talking about men , meaning the dunaiden , rohans and the remaining people of Rhovanion .
MultiKillerBot 1 year ago
@MultiKillerBot
which is funny cause i would always think sauron enslaving the entire world around their mountains and solidifying His power would only make the dwarves fight with men for themselves.
I really like what they were doing with the elves in the third age, gave a real impression that change was coming, and the elves knew that they had to go. though sometimes I just wish we got to see them fight more.
fluffyzhangfei 1 year ago
@fluffyzhangfei Um well the Dwarfs did ally themselves with the men of Dale and they became an ally of Gondor(This was after the war of the Ring though).
BlowShitUp12 1 year ago
That marching sound and pure uniformed organisation and skill...amazing. Everything an army needs. You really get an impression of their power.
Benad361 1 year ago 2
Rhun is in the east of the black gate, they come from the wrong direction.
RWVSALZBURG 1 year ago
@RWVSALZBURG Maybe they came from Khand
FCTFFets 1 year ago
@FCTFFets I always thought the easterlings from Khand were riders, and I think from Khand the shortest way is not around Mordor thorugh Ithilien.
RWVSALZBURG 1 year ago
@RWVSALZBURG Well, they came from Ithilien, or maybe they came from south Rhûn, I thought it was strange too, but now I think they came from Khand or south Rhûn.
FCTFFets 1 year ago
@turk1991turkboi
Easterlings are the combination of Men of Rhun Khand and the Wainriders
Haradrim or Southrons are the warriors with the oliphants
tuskin4 1 year ago
urukhai>easterlings
MultiKillerBot 1 year ago
the easterlings came from rhûn......the haradrim came from harad.......
Jannik94able 1 year ago 5
@Jannik94able yeah the," Haradrim were bold men and grim and fierce in despair and the easterlings were warhardened and asked for no quarter "
MultiKillerBot 1 year ago
I hat the easterliings they are so dumb gondor is the best
MultiKillerBot 1 year ago
@turk1991turkboi the men of rhun are the easterlings
MultiKillerBot 1 year ago
@Devilsolution I'd love to shout like that, be cool
jerryplane 1 year ago
The Easterling military has that flare that most nations would KILL for. That call-and-response chant? Completely badass for the side that's using it, and causes mass brick-shitting in whatever enemy hears it.
electricbayonet2 1 year ago 5
I love it when the Easterling Captain shouts out to the orcs on the gate, amazing
jerryplane 1 year ago 37
@jerryplane Yeah , that's a hell good shouting!!
Devilsolution 1 year ago
they have without a doubt the coolest armour and armaments of any of mordors soldiers, except maybe the witch king.
govy08 1 year ago
Jesus Christ. Rhun and Harad's warchants put Gondor to shame. Why didn't they actually get deployed intelligently? The Haradim only got sent in once the orcs were routed, and...beats me what the men of Rhun were doing the whole time.
electricbayonet2 2 years ago
@electricbayonet2 I love the easterlings but hate haradrim and i do like gondor to
MultiKillerBot 1 year ago
was that the only troop Rhun send to mordor?
nabplayer 2 years ago
@nabplayer
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Even if it was, that's all they NEED to send. They were deployed as shock troopers right behind the Olag-Hai at the great gates of Minas Tirith.
Freelancer591 2 years ago
heck! even if it was it's not like mordor really needed the help lol
joeliscob 2 years ago
@nabplayer
No, a man from Faramirs guards says, every day tousends Haradrims and Easterlings go to Mordor...this was one of the many troops.
On Minas-tirith you can see a lot of the Easterling between Orks and Trolls.
but the full Army of the Easterlings is not to show in the Movie.
DJAyanami 1 year ago
@DJAyanami The guy you are talking about is madril he is faramirs second in command i think
MultiKillerBot 1 year ago
I want my gf to fuck me with a strap on wearing that outfit...
kittenic44 2 years ago
That's...astonishingly non-creepy considering how obscure it is. Then again, odd and frightening are two very different things. The former raises eyebrows, the latter turns stomachs.
electricbayonet2 2 years ago
Fuck! I love that marching sound! So awsome
Faralakaboom 2 years ago 51
@Faralakaboom yeah its like crunchy and shit it makes my nerves tingle
funyellowpills 1 year ago
@Faralakaboom fuck so true (Y)
chooseit2 1 year ago
i cant tell but are they marching in 4's or 3's whAT TYPE of formation
hollowTony69 2 years ago
@hollowTony69 4's
Herpkid56 2 years ago
Haradrim are similiar to Timurids, Perso Turcos.
network54waff 2 years ago
really nice, but Gollum freaks me out everytime ^^
playermom61 2 years ago
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their armor is awsome
tuskin4 2 years ago 2
yeah!
YesOrNoRate 2 years ago
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tuskin4 2 years ago
awesome march
RealisraelisFTW 2 years ago 2
no fukin lye and not to mention how bad ass they look!
Herpkid56 2 years ago