Has she updated this whole speech now for Obama and his gang of thugs? Is Obama forcing "neoliberalism" on his subjects too for the benefit of his corporate fascist sponsors? Just curious. I'll have to check.
Ok. Naomi argues against free markets, right? So therefore she is in favor of controlled markets, right? Tell me how one can control free people and markets without coercion.
"she believes in respresentative-democracy. "
Which is mob rule. So how is that not coercion?
Please don't play games with words. You know very well that groups of people issue orders and control the lives of others with threats. Don't lie and say it's voluntary!
She says she wants to take over the energy companies and force "green" something or other in one of the YT clips of her. Does that surprise you?
"she believes in representatiive-democracy, not autonomy"
Right. So why is she complaining about forcing Iraqis into "democracy"? She wants to force everyone else into it. We can't be autonomous. We can't vote to be free either.
Her words are meaningless. She doesn't believe in self-rule at all.
Well, she has the same ideology as all other statists. She has her own particular blend of communism/fascism/socialism which she wants to impose on everyone.
How do you think gov't operates except by coercion?
She has stated in another video that she wants to take over all of the energy companies. Then she laughed that there would be "legal issues" to overcome. Obama has already overcome them. Gov't does what it pleases. You know that!
In the beginning here she speaks as if people should have "autonomy" from "this gov't", meaning the gov't she doesn't like. But she does not extend this right to anyone else, does she?
She's more than happy to FORCE her utopianism down everyone else's throat at the barrel of a gun too. That's the dirty little secret, isn't it?
private properties of foreign moviestars and its elite.croatians enjoy so much their "independence"that every time they are reminded of their national debts,the second most expensive food prices in whole of europe with the maximum average salary of about 500 euros a month,and the increasing number of the obese kids(informer yugoslavia there was NO obesity.if you were obese,it was due to your health conditions,they really do not know whether to cry or to laugh.P.S.thanks for the bombs-says serbia
sounds like a good start. I was thinking moltov coctails, but boycotting could work too. In that second thought, I realize, we seem to be a grey scale between "us" and "them", and so should at least give them a chance to change. Apply as appropriate
people have to take responsibility for their actions. Perhaps sectarian violience is actually national violience like in the Yugoslavia break-up. Which the violience was founded on the basis of suppressing freedom.
to TheShield04:our actual national violence was prompted by "the economic opportunities","freedoms",and ideas of "independence and democracy" which were promised to us (by our corrupted leaders,and world leading politicians) if we accept the deals offered by the IMF,and the experts who were going to remake our countires and nations.after we killed ourselves by killing each other,destroyed our own homes,and everything we worked for the last 50 years,the abstract goals we were fighting for turned
how come she does not talk about the serctarian violence...isn't that ignoring a huge problem within iraq. Perhaps it is inconvenient for her arguments if she discusses sectarian struggles that have nothing to do with USA. When she ignores that fact, it makes her argument seam very simple and logical, hence everyone starts clapping hands and "gasping" when she talks....
The Shield04: There are a million different problems Naomi could discuss. Her topic in this speech, however, is primarily centered around neoliberalism and economic hegemony. (And, if you are familiar with her more recent writings, she is focused on "disaster capitalism.") How do you feel sectarian violence plays a key role in these economic topics? As I see it, a lack of economic justice always brings about and/or exacerbates sectarianism.
Excellent! This lecture should be translated and texted, so that people who don´t speak english also can understand it. If I had a transcripion I would love to give it a try (norwegian or spanish)...
Isn't it astounding to hear and recognize truth, when we are so constantly bombarded with lies. Naomi Klein is one of those amazing visionaries who sees and understands the big picture and can assist the rest of us see it too.
TirasKos- you show your idiacy! Logic not a concept you understand? Go promote WAR elsewere you foolish like puppet! Peace social and econimic justice will win,. in the end. Saddly you are against humanity.
Your response addresses absolutely nothing in the video. Yours is a predictable hollow insult devoid of substance. You are an easily manipulated know-nothing and the reason why we have such corrupt leaders today.
Has she updated this whole speech now for Obama and his gang of thugs? Is Obama forcing "neoliberalism" on his subjects too for the benefit of his corporate fascist sponsors? Just curious. I'll have to check.
MillionthUsername 1 year ago
Ok. Naomi argues against free markets, right? So therefore she is in favor of controlled markets, right? Tell me how one can control free people and markets without coercion.
"she believes in respresentative-democracy. "
Which is mob rule. So how is that not coercion?
Please don't play games with words. You know very well that groups of people issue orders and control the lives of others with threats. Don't lie and say it's voluntary!
MillionthUsername 2 years ago
No, I don't believe in coercion at all! She does.
She says she wants to take over the energy companies and force "green" something or other in one of the YT clips of her. Does that surprise you?
"she believes in representatiive-democracy, not autonomy"
Right. So why is she complaining about forcing Iraqis into "democracy"? She wants to force everyone else into it. We can't be autonomous. We can't vote to be free either.
Her words are meaningless. She doesn't believe in self-rule at all.
MillionthUsername 2 years ago
@MillionthUsername Right now Iraquis are being "forced out" or democracy by the USA, not into it.
archangelsweetie 1 year ago
Well, she has the same ideology as all other statists. She has her own particular blend of communism/fascism/socialism which she wants to impose on everyone.
How do you think gov't operates except by coercion?
She has stated in another video that she wants to take over all of the energy companies. Then she laughed that there would be "legal issues" to overcome. Obama has already overcome them. Gov't does what it pleases. You know that!
The idea that she is for "autonomy" is absurd.
MillionthUsername 2 years ago
@MillionthUsername Try to have an open mind. Think about what is right for the people of Iraq.
What the USA has done there is the opposite of democracy. That point at least should be clear to any rational thinking person.
archangelsweetie 1 year ago
@archangelsweetie I am totally and completely against the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
My comments refer to Naomi Klein and her ideology. Apparently you have misread the context.
MillionthUsername 1 year ago
In the beginning here she speaks as if people should have "autonomy" from "this gov't", meaning the gov't she doesn't like. But she does not extend this right to anyone else, does she?
She's more than happy to FORCE her utopianism down everyone else's throat at the barrel of a gun too. That's the dirty little secret, isn't it?
MillionthUsername 2 years ago
private properties of foreign moviestars and its elite.croatians enjoy so much their "independence"that every time they are reminded of their national debts,the second most expensive food prices in whole of europe with the maximum average salary of about 500 euros a month,and the increasing number of the obese kids(informer yugoslavia there was NO obesity.if you were obese,it was due to your health conditions,they really do not know whether to cry or to laugh.P.S.thanks for the bombs-says serbia
punkyca 3 years ago
Naomi Klein President of the United states of America !!!
pepysincunabula 3 years ago
sounds like a good start. I was thinking moltov coctails, but boycotting could work too. In that second thought, I realize, we seem to be a grey scale between "us" and "them", and so should at least give them a chance to change. Apply as appropriate
hippycyborg 3 years ago
people have to take responsibility for their actions. Perhaps sectarian violience is actually national violience like in the Yugoslavia break-up. Which the violience was founded on the basis of suppressing freedom.
TheShield04 4 years ago
to TheShield04:our actual national violence was prompted by "the economic opportunities","freedoms",and ideas of "independence and democracy" which were promised to us (by our corrupted leaders,and world leading politicians) if we accept the deals offered by the IMF,and the experts who were going to remake our countires and nations.after we killed ourselves by killing each other,destroyed our own homes,and everything we worked for the last 50 years,the abstract goals we were fighting for turned
punkyca 3 years ago
how come she does not talk about the serctarian violence...isn't that ignoring a huge problem within iraq. Perhaps it is inconvenient for her arguments if she discusses sectarian struggles that have nothing to do with USA. When she ignores that fact, it makes her argument seam very simple and logical, hence everyone starts clapping hands and "gasping" when she talks....
TheShield04 4 years ago
The Shield04: There are a million different problems Naomi could discuss. Her topic in this speech, however, is primarily centered around neoliberalism and economic hegemony. (And, if you are familiar with her more recent writings, she is focused on "disaster capitalism.") How do you feel sectarian violence plays a key role in these economic topics? As I see it, a lack of economic justice always brings about and/or exacerbates sectarianism.
wethepeoplefor4 3 years ago
i hate what the administration is doing!
fallencypress 4 years ago
Excellent! This lecture should be translated and texted, so that people who don´t speak english also can understand it. If I had a transcripion I would love to give it a try (norwegian or spanish)...
cornerstone77 4 years ago 2
If you don't call bozobono, call me!
DelinquentFaith 4 years ago
Naomi -- I'm in love. Call me.
bozobonobo 4 years ago
Don't be too hard on TirasKos. He obviously doesn't have the English skills to understand what Klein is saying.
bachmantsk 4 years ago
Isn't it astounding to hear and recognize truth, when we are so constantly bombarded with lies. Naomi Klein is one of those amazing visionaries who sees and understands the big picture and can assist the rest of us see it too.
bachmantsk 4 years ago
TirasKos- you show your idiacy! Logic not a concept you understand? Go promote WAR elsewere you foolish like puppet! Peace social and econimic justice will win,. in the end. Saddly you are against humanity.
jphwacheski 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Your twisted mind is stunning. I'm in awe of you. But
what will you do when there's no more war to protest?
Where will you find meaning? When the Vietnam war ended there was weeping; what would they protest now?
TirasKos 4 years ago
What a thoroughly idiotic comment.
hinkospade 4 years ago
Your response addresses absolutely nothing in the video. Yours is a predictable hollow insult devoid of substance. You are an easily manipulated know-nothing and the reason why we have such corrupt leaders today.
jackrabbitrio 4 years ago 2