@orangegoblin - can you actually see reality where you have your head stuck or just your colon? You get hurt it's your problem unless the company was at fault for some safety reg they violated. It's the same as living here in the States. You get hurt through someone else's fault, you sue them, not the American people. Your bigotry for people trying to make a living is rather appalling.
reeqho - it's not worth working for them. The company pays you a pittance compared to what other companies will pay for the same job. The government pays them big bucks, but coporate keeps teh bulk of it and passes a small percentage down to the people who actually do the work. I spent 2 1/2 yrs in Bahrain. The US paid Hazardous Duty pay for every westerner there. The company kept that money and never passed it on to those risking their necks..
The US also paid the full ration rate to the company which at that time was $96 day. They paid me $15 a day for rations and kept the rest. Bahrain is an expensive place to live. That amount will get you three small meals at McDonalds if you ate there every day. Greed is rampant in its management.
bobb1234567890 - That was the Security Division that had trafficing issues. That was years ago and they paid dearly for it. It wasn't company sanctioned, it was a bunch of idiots who thought they could get away with it. Those idiots were prosecuted. The WRM (supply) division didn't have those problems.
Dyncorp and kind also allowed the W team to but, belatedly, and adequate number of boots on the ground for the obligations they created, WITHOUT HAVING TO RE-INSTATE THE DRAFT. this policy is extremely inefficient cost-wise, give the salaries these Mercs pull down. even worse, the talent pool for Dyncorp is the US military whose best and brightest are forced to serve alongside them for govt pay rather than market rates. so, they jump fence and leave the Pentago short.
I wish all Congress members and Senators would have the guts to ask the questions that Cynthia McKinney asks in this video. This shows why she would have been a million times better than Obama as President.
At the end, we see General Myers lying thru his teeth about how long it takes for the Air Force to respond to an airline hijacking.
phvck dyncrooks; I worked for them in Doha and they stiffed me on my bonuses as well as they took $24,000 from my 401k; after they matched everyone of my payments!
And after I didnt renew my contract I was forced to pay my own way back to the US!
They where billing the US GOV for Gaurds & Equipment that wasnt even in country!
Don't know if it was or not exactly. It was a totally different division of the company. The WRM division just took care of Uncle Sam's equipment stored in three locations in the Middle East.
I do not know what everyone else was doing but I was in Al Anbar Province training Iraqi Police,living in police stations with them and trying to help the Iraqi Police defend themselves while everyone else stayed home,it was hot,hard dangerous work but it was worth it to see people who never had any rights start to get them for themselves make decisions on their own out from under the strong arm of Saddam Hussein,the US Military is not just there to fight they are trying to help Iraq!
Seriously man...come on. I was forced to go over there when I was in the Marine Corps. The only reason I decided to work for one of these contractors and go back was for the money. The MONEY THE MONEY. I don't really give a rats ass about Freedom or any of that nonsense. Hey at least I admit it.
We live in AMERICA, we're capitalist, and that's what makes us amazing. You can buy anything and sell anything, and it just so happens you can buy me for $600 a day and I'll go anyway with a kevlar vest and a G36
Let the fellas at DynCorp know they did excellent work with the rotorcraft we had there. I wanted to get a job with 'em, but I got sick of the Middle East.
DynCorp has a couple of divisions. The one that provides security in countries like Afghanistan. The one I worked for was War Readiness Material. We stored, maintained and shipped equipment for the Air Force necessary to set up a base from nothing. They have several sites in the Middle East.
@rustyknight98 Do you know any firefighters in Afghanistan or how to contact them? I got a job offer from dyncorp and must reply soon.Thanks redsoxuy3800@yahoo.com
Not very well for the logisitics jobs. The company also likes to keep the extra money the government pays them for each westerner working in the Middle East, unless those people work in Iraq or Afghanistan. The three sites they maintain in Bahrain, Oman and Qatar qualify for hazardous duty pay, but the company doesn't pass it on, even though that money is meant for the individual since they are the ones risking their lives.
It all depends on what contractors you're talking about. I was just a supply guy doing a warehousing job on a pile of rock and sand someone called Bahrain. It was one of three sites that the US Air Force stored equipment for contigencies in the Middle East. No guns, no armor, nothing but sweat. Those guys that protect the Afghan president, now those are mercs.
Nope, Dyncorp paid les than $39K for the job. They did their best to keep as much of the money the AF paid them for each westerner and paid out as little as possible. The AF paid $96 per day for meals and incidentals per person plus hazardous duty pay. Dyncorp gave us $15 a day for food. In Bahrain that wouold allow you to eat three meals a day at McDonalds. They kept the hazardous duty pay. DynCorp = CHEAP.
Bush tried to cut hazardous duty pay to his military in early 2004 but even HIS majority Congress stopped him from that. Maybe this bullsh|t red herring war should be fought entirely by overpay PMCs and the soldiers should all come home and defend this nation.
Merc's, here we go again! Easy to throw that word around huh? Makes you feel better, somehow makes it dirty. Look it up first. I would have to ask all you purists though, if you offered a 150% raise would you turn it down? If you have the skills and want to do this job, then do it. If not, quit crying for those who get paid damn good money to put their lives on the line.
who's crying. the 1:1 soldier:merc ratio prevents us from having a draft. AND if thats what they're good at and they are being offered a buttload of money for it (about 30k/mo) then by all means. More power to them. As for making me feel better, i could care less. Actions based on emotion is how you mess shit up.
Now i know what you're getting at, they arent mercs they're private contractors because they (the americans) are working for America and not a foreign power. but they are still soldiers for pay; and even they are being outsourced. Check the columbians, chileans and other latin countries for that matter...
its sad though because a lot of them dont have the "licence" to opperate in Iraq, so they do their time and then they dont get paid and then arrested...thats jacked up.
But again, my actual point (young emotional one), any country that depends on a military for pay/mercenery/contracted military that would otherwise be considered civilian, will find itself severely handicapped in the long run. It was true several hundred years ago and its still true today.
Yup, we heard about it while I was living over in Bedrock. I was the security division of the company. They're nothing but mercs with a legitimate job. Those of us in the War Readiness Materials division always had ethics hammered into us.
Yes I will have to agree on them being cheap I worked on the INL program in Colombia and our nick name for them was nicke and dimecorp. They would give the Colombians and SIL employees better gear then they would give us. And if something ever went wrong with a Colombian Mission it was always our fault for the record. If anyone reads this remember dealing with certian members of the NAS, Those people when they had it out for you they made life a living hell on you!!
Jesus is the Son of God and He has eternal life in His hands.
CorneliusOnTheCob 3 months ago
Malditos Hijos de Perra.
TheNWOresistence 11 months ago
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you are a piece of shit!
sweenigami 1 year ago
@orangegoblin - can you actually see reality where you have your head stuck or just your colon? You get hurt it's your problem unless the company was at fault for some safety reg they violated. It's the same as living here in the States. You get hurt through someone else's fault, you sue them, not the American people. Your bigotry for people trying to make a living is rather appalling.
rustyknight98 1 year ago
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@rustyknight98 omg they LOVE they GAYS there
TheBitchesHate 1 year ago
reeqho - it's not worth working for them. The company pays you a pittance compared to what other companies will pay for the same job. The government pays them big bucks, but coporate keeps teh bulk of it and passes a small percentage down to the people who actually do the work. I spent 2 1/2 yrs in Bahrain. The US paid Hazardous Duty pay for every westerner there. The company kept that money and never passed it on to those risking their necks..
rustyknight98 1 year ago
The US also paid the full ration rate to the company which at that time was $96 day. They paid me $15 a day for rations and kept the rest. Bahrain is an expensive place to live. That amount will get you three small meals at McDonalds if you ate there every day. Greed is rampant in its management.
rustyknight98 1 year ago
bobb1234567890 - That was the Security Division that had trafficing issues. That was years ago and they paid dearly for it. It wasn't company sanctioned, it was a bunch of idiots who thought they could get away with it. Those idiots were prosecuted. The WRM (supply) division didn't have those problems.
rustyknight98 1 year ago
Dyncorp and kind also allowed the W team to but, belatedly, and adequate number of boots on the ground for the obligations they created, WITHOUT HAVING TO RE-INSTATE THE DRAFT. this policy is extremely inefficient cost-wise, give the salaries these Mercs pull down. even worse, the talent pool for Dyncorp is the US military whose best and brightest are forced to serve alongside them for govt pay rather than market rates. so, they jump fence and leave the Pentago short.
stybarrow 1 year ago
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@stybarrow omg they LOVE they GAYS there
TheBitchesHate 1 year ago
hey im thinking of working for dyncorp, is it worth it or not .... i was reading a lot of mixed comments
reeqho 2 years ago
I wish all Congress members and Senators would have the guts to ask the questions that Cynthia McKinney asks in this video. This shows why she would have been a million times better than Obama as President.
At the end, we see General Myers lying thru his teeth about how long it takes for the Air Force to respond to an airline hijacking.
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Qrayon 2 years ago
phvck dyncrooks; I worked for them in Doha and they stiffed me on my bonuses as well as they took $24,000 from my 401k; after they matched everyone of my payments!
And after I didnt renew my contract I was forced to pay my own way back to the US!
They where billing the US GOV for Gaurds & Equipment that wasnt even in country!
DetroitsWineMaker 2 years ago
what happend?...i wana work 4 them in afganastan and this is the first bad thing i heard about them...
wilatemodel 2 years ago
could u b more specific?...i'm going 2 afgan 2 work 4 them...
wilatemodel 2 years ago
Look on my favorites there is a video there, where a judge is questioning. Don Rumsfeild about Dynocorp's involvement in the sex trade. Check it out.
dramedybabe 2 years ago
William L. Ballhaus /s/
President and Chief Executive Officer
Date: February 10, 2009
Competitors:
KBR, L-3 & Lockheed, of course
ali0tis 2 years ago
Yes is is the company involved in human trafficking
dramedybabe 3 years ago 4
i can't find any FACTS about that claim, intriguing....
ali0tis 2 years ago
Don't know if it was or not exactly. It was a totally different division of the company. The WRM division just took care of Uncle Sam's equipment stored in three locations in the Middle East.
rustyknight98 3 years ago
@rustyknight98 @PrincessGarnet85
Yes, it WAS Dyncorp that was implicated in trafficking both women and children in the Balkans.
ascolti 1 year ago
I do not know what everyone else was doing but I was in Al Anbar Province training Iraqi Police,living in police stations with them and trying to help the Iraqi Police defend themselves while everyone else stayed home,it was hot,hard dangerous work but it was worth it to see people who never had any rights start to get them for themselves make decisions on their own out from under the strong arm of Saddam Hussein,the US Military is not just there to fight they are trying to help Iraq!
desert1cop 3 years ago
Seriously man...come on. I was forced to go over there when I was in the Marine Corps. The only reason I decided to work for one of these contractors and go back was for the money. The MONEY THE MONEY. I don't really give a rats ass about Freedom or any of that nonsense. Hey at least I admit it.
metall2462 2 years ago 7
You were "forced" to go to Iraq. I thought the draft ended years ago.
22reTOYOTA 2 years ago
We live in AMERICA, we're capitalist, and that's what makes us amazing. You can buy anything and sell anything, and it just so happens you can buy me for $600 a day and I'll go anyway with a kevlar vest and a G36
cualcoatl 2 years ago
@metall2462 YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH! ME TOO!
getmoneystaytrue100 1 year ago
@getmoneystaytrue100 omg they LOVE they GAYS there
TheBitchesHate 1 year ago
Let the fellas at DynCorp know they did excellent work with the rotorcraft we had there. I wanted to get a job with 'em, but I got sick of the Middle East.
nicorelief2 3 years ago
Love the song mate,i don't pay no union dues either,i'm a no good rotten scoundrel of a scab man,but hey rest in peace jimmy hoffa just the same ;)
KhmerSerey1 3 years ago
DynCorp has a couple of divisions. The one that provides security in countries like Afghanistan. The one I worked for was War Readiness Material. We stored, maintained and shipped equipment for the Air Force necessary to set up a base from nothing. They have several sites in the Middle East.
rustyknight98 3 years ago
@rustyknight98 Do you know any firefighters in Afghanistan or how to contact them? I got a job offer from dyncorp and must reply soon.Thanks redsoxuy3800@yahoo.com
cubsfan1622000 1 year ago
what does Dyncorp do exactly? do they provide the same service as Black Water?
JSOTF 3 years ago
they are technically a private millitary company (aka mercenaries)
Fishdogpigsquirrel 3 years ago
How well does Dyncorp pays?
gijoerecon 3 years ago
Not very well for the logisitics jobs. The company also likes to keep the extra money the government pays them for each westerner working in the Middle East, unless those people work in Iraq or Afghanistan. The three sites they maintain in Bahrain, Oman and Qatar qualify for hazardous duty pay, but the company doesn't pass it on, even though that money is meant for the individual since they are the ones risking their lives.
rustyknight98 3 years ago
Let the sinner cast the first stone. Might want read the book of Matthew. Sadam gased his own people..there for read Matthew 10:34.
r1steelersfan 3 years ago
Speaking of Dyncorp, what ever happened to Deon ?
drh1045 3 years ago
No idea
rustyknight98 3 years ago
Thats great and Ilove this can of job,some one can help me or can give a information how get a job on the private armys
bbootteerroo 3 years ago
yes, first you sell your soul and suck satans cock, then come in monday at 930am
werethename 3 years ago
Make the bad guys look harmless LMAO.
divinejudge1 4 years ago
yeah, dyncorp sucks ass, fuck them. i quit and went to soc-smg..
cgarcia1125 4 years ago
so this stuff isnt illegal? i have never heard about these "contractors" till now. well, they are basically mercs right?
mgssugarcultfan 4 years ago
It all depends on what contractors you're talking about. I was just a supply guy doing a warehousing job on a pile of rock and sand someone called Bahrain. It was one of three sites that the US Air Force stored equipment for contigencies in the Middle East. No guns, no armor, nothing but sweat. Those guys that protect the Afghan president, now those are mercs.
rustyknight98 4 years ago
LOL, looks like fun! Sign me up, im sure the 6 figure salary helps...
epicdeuce 4 years ago
Nope, Dyncorp paid les than $39K for the job. They did their best to keep as much of the money the AF paid them for each westerner and paid out as little as possible. The AF paid $96 per day for meals and incidentals per person plus hazardous duty pay. Dyncorp gave us $15 a day for food. In Bahrain that wouold allow you to eat three meals a day at McDonalds. They kept the hazardous duty pay. DynCorp = CHEAP.
rustyknight98 4 years ago
Bush tried to cut hazardous duty pay to his military in early 2004 but even HIS majority Congress stopped him from that. Maybe this bullsh|t red herring war should be fought entirely by overpay PMCs and the soldiers should all come home and defend this nation.
lonelygirlI5 4 years ago
Easy there young emotional one. ANY military that is dependent on mercs is one that will fail...which is a total shame.
grtwhtbnr 4 years ago
Merc's, here we go again! Easy to throw that word around huh? Makes you feel better, somehow makes it dirty. Look it up first. I would have to ask all you purists though, if you offered a 150% raise would you turn it down? If you have the skills and want to do this job, then do it. If not, quit crying for those who get paid damn good money to put their lives on the line.
bunzii43 4 years ago 3
who's crying. the 1:1 soldier:merc ratio prevents us from having a draft. AND if thats what they're good at and they are being offered a buttload of money for it (about 30k/mo) then by all means. More power to them. As for making me feel better, i could care less. Actions based on emotion is how you mess shit up.
grtwhtbnr 4 years ago 2
Now i know what you're getting at, they arent mercs they're private contractors because they (the americans) are working for America and not a foreign power. but they are still soldiers for pay; and even they are being outsourced. Check the columbians, chileans and other latin countries for that matter...
grtwhtbnr 4 years ago
its sad though because a lot of them dont have the "licence" to opperate in Iraq, so they do their time and then they dont get paid and then arrested...thats jacked up.
grtwhtbnr 4 years ago
But again, my actual point (young emotional one), any country that depends on a military for pay/mercenery/contracted military that would otherwise be considered civilian, will find itself severely handicapped in the long run. It was true several hundred years ago and its still true today.
grtwhtbnr 4 years ago
you heard anything about the dyncorp sex-trade rings?
youtube dot com/watch?v=9RvLL--vSsA&mode=related&search=
jmguitard 4 years ago 3
Yup, we heard about it while I was living over in Bedrock. I was the security division of the company. They're nothing but mercs with a legitimate job. Those of us in the War Readiness Materials division always had ethics hammered into us.
rustyknight98 4 years ago
Yes I will have to agree on them being cheap I worked on the INL program in Colombia and our nick name for them was nicke and dimecorp. They would give the Colombians and SIL employees better gear then they would give us. And if something ever went wrong with a Colombian Mission it was always our fault for the record. If anyone reads this remember dealing with certian members of the NAS, Those people when they had it out for you they made life a living hell on you!!
Tumaco12 2 years ago
good boys
bradock74 5 years ago