The reason most everyone in the college community switched from myspace to facebook is that its much simpler, it loads a lot faster, and it gets the job done. I probably haven't logged onto myspace in about a year.
if people are on facebook for their children like you say then people will move from one to another as there children do. i think facebook will be around long too but not because people wanna connect with there children. Many people dont even talk with there mom dad grandma or grandpa.
@ptbernard YouTube, no. Twitter? I'm inclined to say no, but less convinced. FB and YT scale and reach is so much more embedded into non-techy lives than Twitter.
I'm inclined to agree with you that Facebook has cornered consolidated its marketshare of this new marketplace, whatever its called, but I think data portability is going to become a major issue as competitors emerge. I know Google is alarmed and its a pity they're not developing YouTube profiles further but their profile system might get interesting.
About the only other thing I'd have to add here is that I'm not necessarily proud that I was such a fervent hold out where FB is concerned, but I AM glad that I finally caved in and took a look around to see the benefits of participating over there.
Ps. Suddenly I'm remembering a time when LiveVideo was being referred to as "the next big thing" [teehee!]
@OhCurt I think lots of people hold out when something gets touted as "next big thing." But, imo, FB is different...huge and broad...LV...not so much! Thanks.
Two years ago, MySpace could have been deemed "Too Big To Fail" and look at it now. It was considered equally as important and just as much of a "resource", and yet it was replaced by a more formal, less-imaginative social networking site with elitist roots and a myriad of privacy issues.
I use Facebook, but I have absolutely no loyalty to it and when something better and more efficient comes along (nevermind the fact that I still believe MySpace is superior in many ways) I will move there to stay connected to my friends and family. I may be wrong, but I believe most people feel the same way.
I think online social networking is still in it's infancy and Facebook is the dominant site at the moment because of it's novelty, as well as it's simplicity, which makes it appealing and non-threatening for the older population.
Better sites are coming and I can't see Facebook lasting more than another couple of years tops. And even if it doesn't die, it will at least be bought out and merged with another internet juggernaut and revamped to be almost unrecognizable. Is it much of a stretch to picture "Googlebook" coming along in the near future?
@DentonUSA google is trying and failing. Orkut and iGoogle. google is only good at stealing other people's ideas sometimes. one day maybe they will actually come up with something original rather than either buy or steal others ideas.
@DentonUSA I understand MySpace's history but I think the differences are both quantitative (500 million is a lot more users than MS ever had) and qualitative (the broader user base) makes FB different. We'll see, won't we? Thanks.
@tlg847 agreed tom and an added comment...facebook started with a completely different demographic. it was founded on tight college social networks and expanded...my space was a glorified AOL homepage
@battim hey, tim, good to hear from you. FB growth pattern based on totally different social strategy from MS's. that's been a key to their difference in performance. MS = AOL is dead on.
i watched this the other day, and it sent me off an a whole other tangent. Its true. I feel like im an outsider sometimes, being a holdout. For not, being on FB or TW. I just deactivated years ago and have been stubborn. Buts everywhere, in everything now. Sort of how we felt about using debit cards instead of checks. So many other big sites, now RELY on FB. Great vlog, and im still not going to reactivate my acct! Ill still write checks and send postcards, till they outlaw it! :D
I think I'd be more upset if my blog(s) were to vanish than facebook... but I get what you're saying. All the same, I'm not giving up on another "next big thing." But facebook is not going anywhere... Hell, there's still people using Friendster!
The first time I listened to the video I missed a very important point you made, and it's that many users only adopt Facebook to follow a loved one. This can have an anchoring effect on the loved ones they're following since it might have been tough to even get mom/dad/grand(ma/dad) to follow in the first place. And even if Facebook is not good, as long as it's good enough and doesn't change too often people would rather focus on other things in their lives to spend time changing.
I view Facebook as I do YouTube and as I experienced YouTube in the late 2006 to late 2008 time period. YouTube regarded the concerns of the community in the manner of a very big, quiet dog ignoring a very small, noisy dog. The noise is not preferred but ignorable. And during that time there were many people like myself suggesting that if a group of people organized a mass exodus to another platform they would follow, or lead, or whatever...continued
@P00P0STER0US continued...From my perspective, no significant change came from this due to inertia of two sorts. The first is that YouTube was already massive, and backed by Google, and nobody else had a platform that was close to being as popular or significantly more feature-rich. The second sort of inertia was within the community, because as you're well aware people who have invested a lot of time into developing relationships and producing content don't want to lose that...continued
@P00P0STER0US continued2...And that's how I see Facebook, so big and connecting so many people that in order for people to want to take the time to go to another platform and begin interacting they need to trust that all of those they consider most significant to them would do the same. I don't see folks showing that level of cohesive decision-making initiative. And you make a great point, that as Facebook becomes more deeply integrated, it will becomes less personally expendable.
@P00P0STER0US yes, this is what happens when any service becomes that massive. Of course, there are no other services that have ever been that massive. Five. Hundred. Million. Active. Users.
@tlg847 It's a staggering number of users. Over 7% of the earth's population actively using Facebook. I wonder what the service would have become if run by someone with a primarily altruistic intent.
@tlg847 Good point about electricity. All this discussion really changes my casual thinking about Facebook. I wouldn't have even imagined it was that big. I just read estimates that approximately 1.6-2 billion people don't have access to electricity, so figuring around 1.9 billion without electricity, that'd put Facebook's penetration at 10%.
Great topic. I don't think anyone nor any co. etc is too big to fail. One person once said to me we are all a pinkslip away from the unemployment line. Take youtube which seems too big to fail. All it takes is some new viral video site to catch fire and Youtube will slink to the bottom. That said, I also believe YT as well as FB will be prominent in the online community for several years to come. Great video.
I'm thinking there is a need for something in between Twitter and FB. Similar to Twitter in that you can follow people, but with a higher character cap and embedded pics. Similar to the Wall in FB but with the option of threaded comments...
I think tech runs on about a 3 year cycle, so what's big now will be replaced by the next big thing in three years. Many of the current big things will still be around, but will look different. Out of chars!
Damn those stalker grandparents dragging their feet in the online world! Great observation though. I was only wondering the same thing about YouTube earlier today as another set of site modifications were annoying me.
However if the key sites in online social interaction move towards greater integration does the inevitable crossover this creates decrease their individual importance?
Maybe we're seeing a paradigm shift from the next big thing replacing the last big thing as more sites connect with each other. Facebook connects with Twitter connects with YouTube, etc. The social network is finally really becoming a network and myriad smaller things connect with each other and the big thing is the network itself. Facebook will probably always be a part of that and a major part. But the network is the thing.
@FantasticBabblings Couldn't agree more, Phil. The network is the thing, yet the entire runs through FB today. It's pretty hard to do anything digital today and not have a strategy for addressing FB.
I agree with you about Facebook Tom. I don't see FB being replaced any time soon either. Something else may well come along. But, as you suggest, we'll still stay on FB, because that's where all our friends are. We're too afraid to cut our ties completely.
That's why i remain on YouTube. All my friends are here.
We all just end up with more & more sites that we log on to.
@andymooseman I think Phil's comment about the network being the thing is the key here. But, FB has staked out and branded a huge portion of the network.
@tlg847 Phil makes a very good point & i agree with him. It's all becoming one big network these days. It's just getting harder to keep up with it all though! ;)
myyearbook probblly gonnareplac fb
kyleaverhart 2 months ago
The reason most everyone in the college community switched from myspace to facebook is that its much simpler, it loads a lot faster, and it gets the job done. I probably haven't logged onto myspace in about a year.
xMaxTankx 6 months ago
LOLOLOLL if you want to give out a history channel discussion take it to facebook itself :D
Blinkytehtroll 11 months ago
My dad has a facebook and he found loads of cousins we didn't know we had... But he uses facebook to connect with his friends from the past...
Naturerocks411 1 year ago
FB = 'Too Big Fail' Millions of working hours are lost in that site. Unproductive 100%
Neueregel 1 year ago
if people are on facebook for their children like you say then people will move from one to another as there children do. i think facebook will be around long too but not because people wanna connect with there children. Many people dont even talk with there mom dad grandma or grandpa.
Diegomuchach 1 year ago
Testing testing - Sent from MyU2B
GrifterSixOne 1 year ago
Twitter? You Tube?........they might fail?
ptbernard 1 year ago
@ptbernard YouTube, no. Twitter? I'm inclined to say no, but less convinced. FB and YT scale and reach is so much more embedded into non-techy lives than Twitter.
tlg847 1 year ago
I'm inclined to agree with you that Facebook has cornered consolidated its marketshare of this new marketplace, whatever its called, but I think data portability is going to become a major issue as competitors emerge. I know Google is alarmed and its a pity they're not developing YouTube profiles further but their profile system might get interesting.
quittingtomorrow 1 year ago
Well put!
About the only other thing I'd have to add here is that I'm not necessarily proud that I was such a fervent hold out where FB is concerned, but I AM glad that I finally caved in and took a look around to see the benefits of participating over there.
Ps. Suddenly I'm remembering a time when LiveVideo was being referred to as "the next big thing" [teehee!]
OhCurt 1 year ago
@OhCurt I think lots of people hold out when something gets touted as "next big thing." But, imo, FB is different...huge and broad...LV...not so much! Thanks.
tlg847 1 year ago
Two years ago, MySpace could have been deemed "Too Big To Fail" and look at it now. It was considered equally as important and just as much of a "resource", and yet it was replaced by a more formal, less-imaginative social networking site with elitist roots and a myriad of privacy issues.
DentonUSA 1 year ago
I use Facebook, but I have absolutely no loyalty to it and when something better and more efficient comes along (nevermind the fact that I still believe MySpace is superior in many ways) I will move there to stay connected to my friends and family. I may be wrong, but I believe most people feel the same way.
DentonUSA 1 year ago
I think online social networking is still in it's infancy and Facebook is the dominant site at the moment because of it's novelty, as well as it's simplicity, which makes it appealing and non-threatening for the older population.
DentonUSA 1 year ago
Better sites are coming and I can't see Facebook lasting more than another couple of years tops. And even if it doesn't die, it will at least be bought out and merged with another internet juggernaut and revamped to be almost unrecognizable. Is it much of a stretch to picture "Googlebook" coming along in the near future?
DentonUSA 1 year ago
@DentonUSA google is trying and failing. Orkut and iGoogle. google is only good at stealing other people's ideas sometimes. one day maybe they will actually come up with something original rather than either buy or steal others ideas.
battim 1 year ago
@DentonUSA I understand MySpace's history but I think the differences are both quantitative (500 million is a lot more users than MS ever had) and qualitative (the broader user base) makes FB different. We'll see, won't we? Thanks.
tlg847 1 year ago
@tlg847 agreed tom and an added comment...facebook started with a completely different demographic. it was founded on tight college social networks and expanded...my space was a glorified AOL homepage
battim 1 year ago
@battim hey, tim, good to hear from you. FB growth pattern based on totally different social strategy from MS's. that's been a key to their difference in performance. MS = AOL is dead on.
tlg847 1 year ago
Interesting thoughts but what if the young people migrate to a new platform. Do the older users follow their kids and grandkids over?
NaturalTwentyFilms 1 year ago
i watched this the other day, and it sent me off an a whole other tangent. Its true. I feel like im an outsider sometimes, being a holdout. For not, being on FB or TW. I just deactivated years ago and have been stubborn. Buts everywhere, in everything now. Sort of how we felt about using debit cards instead of checks. So many other big sites, now RELY on FB. Great vlog, and im still not going to reactivate my acct! Ill still write checks and send postcards, till they outlaw it! :D
cooksterz 1 year ago
I think I'd be more upset if my blog(s) were to vanish than facebook... but I get what you're saying. All the same, I'm not giving up on another "next big thing." But facebook is not going anywhere... Hell, there's still people using Friendster!
kenrg 1 year ago
The first time I listened to the video I missed a very important point you made, and it's that many users only adopt Facebook to follow a loved one. This can have an anchoring effect on the loved ones they're following since it might have been tough to even get mom/dad/grand(ma/dad) to follow in the first place. And even if Facebook is not good, as long as it's good enough and doesn't change too often people would rather focus on other things in their lives to spend time changing.
P00P0STER0US 1 year ago
I view Facebook as I do YouTube and as I experienced YouTube in the late 2006 to late 2008 time period. YouTube regarded the concerns of the community in the manner of a very big, quiet dog ignoring a very small, noisy dog. The noise is not preferred but ignorable. And during that time there were many people like myself suggesting that if a group of people organized a mass exodus to another platform they would follow, or lead, or whatever...continued
P00P0STER0US 1 year ago
@P00P0STER0US continued...From my perspective, no significant change came from this due to inertia of two sorts. The first is that YouTube was already massive, and backed by Google, and nobody else had a platform that was close to being as popular or significantly more feature-rich. The second sort of inertia was within the community, because as you're well aware people who have invested a lot of time into developing relationships and producing content don't want to lose that...continued
P00P0STER0US 1 year ago
@P00P0STER0US continued2...And that's how I see Facebook, so big and connecting so many people that in order for people to want to take the time to go to another platform and begin interacting they need to trust that all of those they consider most significant to them would do the same. I don't see folks showing that level of cohesive decision-making initiative. And you make a great point, that as Facebook becomes more deeply integrated, it will becomes less personally expendable.
P00P0STER0US 1 year ago
@P00P0STER0US yes, this is what happens when any service becomes that massive. Of course, there are no other services that have ever been that massive. Five. Hundred. Million. Active. Users.
tlg847 1 year ago
@tlg847 It's a staggering number of users. Over 7% of the earth's population actively using Facebook. I wonder what the service would have become if run by someone with a primarily altruistic intent.
P00P0STER0US 1 year ago
@P00P0STER0US and what % of people with electricity?
tlg847 1 year ago
@tlg847 Good point about electricity. All this discussion really changes my casual thinking about Facebook. I wouldn't have even imagined it was that big. I just read estimates that approximately 1.6-2 billion people don't have access to electricity, so figuring around 1.9 billion without electricity, that'd put Facebook's penetration at 10%.
P00P0STER0US 1 year ago
Shared on facebook.
HeyRadialMoon 1 year ago
Great topic. I don't think anyone nor any co. etc is too big to fail. One person once said to me we are all a pinkslip away from the unemployment line. Take youtube which seems too big to fail. All it takes is some new viral video site to catch fire and Youtube will slink to the bottom. That said, I also believe YT as well as FB will be prominent in the online community for several years to come. Great video.
Talljim01 1 year ago
Hi Tom; always great to see a video from you!
I'm thinking there is a need for something in between Twitter and FB. Similar to Twitter in that you can follow people, but with a higher character cap and embedded pics. Similar to the Wall in FB but with the option of threaded comments...
I think tech runs on about a 3 year cycle, so what's big now will be replaced by the next big thing in three years. Many of the current big things will still be around, but will look different. Out of chars!
KennyWrites 1 year ago
@KennyWrites great comment. - Sent from MyU2B
renetto 1 year ago
Damn those stalker grandparents dragging their feet in the online world! Great observation though. I was only wondering the same thing about YouTube earlier today as another set of site modifications were annoying me.
However if the key sites in online social interaction move towards greater integration does the inevitable crossover this creates decrease their individual importance?
talk74 1 year ago
Hi Tom!
I love that I can now connect with everyone all over the place. Network is alive!
LeSaMilano 1 year ago
I remember using Compuserve and then, of course, AOL. One thing I've learned from life is that NOTHING is ever too big to fail. Hugs,~Moonchime
Moonchimes 1 year ago
Maybe we're seeing a paradigm shift from the next big thing replacing the last big thing as more sites connect with each other. Facebook connects with Twitter connects with YouTube, etc. The social network is finally really becoming a network and myriad smaller things connect with each other and the big thing is the network itself. Facebook will probably always be a part of that and a major part. But the network is the thing.
FantasticBabblings 1 year ago
@FantasticBabblings Couldn't agree more, Phil. The network is the thing, yet the entire runs through FB today. It's pretty hard to do anything digital today and not have a strategy for addressing FB.
tlg847 1 year ago
@FantasticBabblings spot on Phil!
LeSaMilano 1 year ago
I agree with you about Facebook Tom. I don't see FB being replaced any time soon either. Something else may well come along. But, as you suggest, we'll still stay on FB, because that's where all our friends are. We're too afraid to cut our ties completely.
That's why i remain on YouTube. All my friends are here.
We all just end up with more & more sites that we log on to.
andymooseman 1 year ago
@andymooseman I think Phil's comment about the network being the thing is the key here. But, FB has staked out and branded a huge portion of the network.
tlg847 1 year ago
@tlg847 Phil makes a very good point & i agree with him. It's all becoming one big network these days. It's just getting harder to keep up with it all though! ;)
andymooseman 1 year ago