What a "CREEP"! The reason I do not go to church is because of people like Marjoe Gortner and "Jim and Tammy Baker" (the bonnie and clyde of the religious world).
I'm in the wrong business. I'm sitting in front of a computer all day, slaving away for a few hundred bucks a month. I have back and neck aches from sitting too much. While these people just lie and cheat and make millions.
@Shekanahh You mean like marjoes parents for example.... both preachers... both accepted as bearers of the 'truth' even after he admitted how they fleece their sheep!
Truth cannot be garnered from those who do not posses it. And closing your eyes to things you consider valid or 'truthful' because you might not like the consequences is exactly how they made their money.
The Lord Jesus Christ is " The Way ,The Truth and The Life ". He alone saves.During his time walking on Earth Jesus had harsh words for the religious leaders at the time because they burdened the people with their strict ,difficult requirements to righteousness.For all who believe and trust Christ as our saviour,he is our righteousness because of his sacrifice upon the cross to pay for our sins.No person can buy or work their way into God's favour .Only in Christ our we accepted by God .
@brownbigb ... also I don't know if you grew up in the church as I did, but I was always taught that the church is not the brick and the morter we enter on Sunday. The individuals ARE the church. Mother Teresa and Dr. King both drew inspiration from the person Jesus of Nazareth. Back to my politics comment, even if the institution has issues, it is possible to acknowledge those issues exist and STILL think the teachings of Jesus Christ are worthwhile. You may not think so but I disagree.
You know what you guys are doing is taking God to be part of Earth. He ISN'T. He made the Earth. Even if you think He doesn't exist. God lives on a different plane of existence to us and its called Heaven so all our theories of existence and laws of physics don't apply to Him. Science was never against God. The origin of science was to show the greatness of God in His creations. Which is like everything around.
Let's switch this to Politics... Conservative or Liberal. Just because there are some corrupt individuals in your party, do you stop believing in the basic principals that made you a Democrat or a Republican in the first place? Probably not, because there are better leaders out there................ I will not lose my faith in Jesus Christ (and all His goodness) because some HORRIBLE "Christians" exists be they abusive Catholic priests,or Bishop Eddie Long, or Marjoe or whoever...
@b2223967 ok than lets switch to politics. The fastest growing religious group in America is youngsters who check no on religion. You don't have to loose your faith in Jesus Christ but religion and what you believe is finally on its way out of America. Now as you are a Christian all you have to do is say "I choose not to believe that". Pray and tell me if the polls change in your favor in the next ten or so years. I wont hold my breath.
@landesdesign "There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics".-Mark Twain However, I have heard similar reports. Those polls will change (one way or the other) as the people change. America in general is in for some BIG changes; the minorities becoming the majority.I wouldn't count the Church out just yet, not with a growing Latino population made up of Roman Catholics and the Assemblies of God. Not to mention Blacks who were surveyed recently as "the most religious ethnic group".
@b2223967 being religious has nothing to do with ethnicity. it has to do with lack of education, lack of finances and lack of intelligence. and even if you think that god and religion is not evil, the church certainly is. the church has as much to do with god as politics has to do with honesty and caring about the people.
@brownbigb NOTHING to do? Cultures and faiths are strongly connected. Ask the Irish or the Italians who aren't practicing Roman Catholics. Not that my blood or my skin means that I HAVE to worship a certain god. Of course my MIND makes that choice. But to say they have NO relationship, I disagree. The church has done BAD, HORRIBLE things (i.e. the Inquistion), it has also done GOOD things. Do the names Mother Teresa or Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ring a bell? Refer to my politics comment.
@b2223967 cultures yes. but not ethnicity. people don't believe in god because they are black or mexican. they do believe in god because of lack of education or intelligence. the church didn't do mother theresa or MLK. that was the individuals.
@brownbigb I am insulted when Atheists insist that a belief in God requires a lack of intelligence or education. I have my BA, I'm in grad school. Took the same GRE as everyone else. AND I am a Christian. I have had the chance to read "the God Delusion" by Dawkins, (He made some points, but I've also read "The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism" by Keller. He made some points.) I have questioned, doubted and wrestled with my faith but I have made my own conclusion.
@b2223967 be insulted all you want, the fact is, the more uneducated, the more impoverished a group is, the more religious it is. also there is a direct correlation to intelligence. the higher the iq, the lower the % of religious believers. there are exceptions, but on the whole that holds true. i am not an atheist, i am an anti theist. read hitchens and harris. much more convincing and to the point than dawkins. the individuals are not the church. the church is an institution.
@brownbigb Well you know who you are, and I know who I am. "Be insulted all you want" Insults start fights. The world is full of people who disagree and yet have to share the same planet. Since we won't agree, and this won't ever resolve, we may as well end our comments amicably... What is Harris's first name? (Given it is a common last name). I like to read, one more book never hurts.
@b2223967 I like the tone of the posts you've made here. A credible faith I think is one that embraces both assurance and questions, and allows for the growth of an adherent as s/he continues to compare what is believed with evidence & experience. The ability to accept that traditional dogma may from time to time need to be re-evaluated, while still believing or intuiting that there is still a reality to something that transcends the physical world, can propel us forward in our quest for God.
@brownbigb "lower the % of religious believers". True, but I just want to state that Jesus Christ (God) is different from religion. In the book of Corinthians, it specifies how people like these "spiritual leaders" and followers r not true Christians. I believe that we as humans blame God for all these ppl's wrong doings, but God did not send us to act this way. And I also believe that any person that SOUNDS smart, can brainwash any weak mind. It doesn't have to be religion related.
Lord have mercy... this is so sad. To take things as wonderful as Faith, Hope and Love... and the simple human desire for such things and prostitute it. It's simply sad. I am actually glad the film Marjoe was made however. What he did was horrible but hopefully people will see this and learn from it. I was raised in the Pentecostal church and am still a Christian. If you can't take criticism, perhaps you should check your faith.
@b2223967 you really think he is the only one that has done this? any way a man or woman can make money out of the preaching "gods" word they do. whether it be predicting the end of the world or saying that they are the next messiah. either way its all fake. people learn from what they are taught growing up and they will believe that, because they dont know any different. maybe you should look in a science book and learn some serious facts.
@kelbsify You come off hostile. "Maybe you should look in a science book and learn some serious facts!" I'm a college graduate, I read, I travel and I love science. It is fascinating. I also love Jesus. He's awesome. My spirituality is a personal choice. You can be a Christian without spending a dime on teleEvangelists. Read. Pray. and Give to the poor/homeless. You think my faith is a waste of time, well *shrugs* it's my life. 'Fact': The entire WORLD is a mess, not just the "Christian" part.
Are you guys really gonna judge a religion because of a bunch of corrupt leaders in it? Power corrupts, we all know that. When some selfish asshole finds that he can trick people into giving money by just standing on stage and saying, "Give to the Lord and He shall bless you back", hell he'll take it! Religion is not evil. It is just used for selfish purposes by some of its leaders. Strip away all the God talk and all religion does is talk about morals. How to treat others and live honest lives.
@brownbigb Wow really? Think about it for a second would you? Even if God doesn't exist, think about that. He has the power to vaporize you by blinking yet he doesn't. He has could make you a thoughtless servant but he gave you freedom of choice. He cared enough for you to put aside his immortality and power, come down as a human, be tortured and die hung on a cross. So even if He doesn't exist, He is an example of complete uncorruptability.
@jaryl13 which god? right now you are talking about the story of horus from what i can tell. of course if god doesn't exists, it can hardly do any of those things? there are over 10000 gods people believe in. how do you choose which one? if there was a god, it could not give you free will and remain omniscient, so that is not an issue. is god dead? you said it died. wherever did you read that a god was hung on a cross? crucifixions did not use a cross. god created evil. ultimate corruption.
@brownbigb Wow nice. I'm talking about Jehovah alright. You know, Jesus. I don't think you even get the concept of a god. God refers to a being that can do ANYTHING. And by ANYTHING I mean He can do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you could possibly think up, weather its impossible for us to do or not. Thats the whole definition of the word "god". And which history textbook did you read? Crucifixtions did use a cross. And good cannot exist without evil, corruption cannot exist without purity.
@jaryl13 actually that story is in the book of horus originally. jehova? you mean yhwh? nice contradicting yourself. god can do anything, yet good can not exist without evil. how did you end up with that god out of all the different ones? they used a "T" in crucifixions. never a cross. it was not practical. they had the upright portion in the ground, and lifted the crossbeam onto it with the person tied (not nailed) to the crossbeam. it was a "T". the person looked like a cross, hence the name.
@brownbigb The whole "T" shaped cross is a theory. In some records its a cross, in others its a "T". And in some records, crucifixtion tied the man, in others they were nailed, in others its both. So no one knows for sure which mothod exactly was used by the Romans. It could very well be all of them. And yes, Jehovah(The Father), Yahweh(The Son) and the Holy Ghost. If I'm not wrong, Horus is a Roman god. The Romans made up gods to satisfy human curiosity. So did the Chinese, Greeks and Indians.
@jaryl13 you are wrong. horus is not a roman god. it is the god that jesus' story was borrowed from. you are very correct in saying that the romans, the greeks, the jews, the christians, the chinese and so on made up gods to satisfy human curiosity. that is the definition of religion. it is good to see that you understand that god is a human construct. good for you.
@brownbigb You know if you don't mind. I'm not gonna argue about God's existence with you. Cause I'm going down to my church to help with a charity event. Yeah, we're raising money to help people in Karan. They're in constant civil war and all they have to keep themselves going is faith in God. So instead of calling religion evil and calling ppl stupid for having faith in God, you might wanna care a little. We're going to give them food, clothes, books and stationery. So good day to you.
If I had a time machine, I'd go back and kill Billy Sunday; or at least convince him to stick to baseball. That way, we'd never have to worry about all these four-flushing greedy liars.
1 John 4:1 - "1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world." Also Kundalini spirit is very often present in today's churches!!!
@Panosl Oddly on the cause and effect thing both Hawking and indeed Penrose (who although friends rarely agree on jack shit) both agree there is no requirement for cause and effect in any initiation of a universe.
Cause and effect don't even need to happen in that order...since retro-causality is not only mathematically demonstrated but also recently demonstrated in the US by a nuclear physicist.
Ergo things don't need to have a cause...and if they do it does not need to precede the effect!
@Panosl Well in the absence of anything else... is what he meant...
Science was an easy target to be honest... until recently it never bothered to address 'GOD' as a scientific field.
But given the jumping up an down of creationists and whatnot over the last century... well they just stupidly drew attention to themselves...so psychologists now research their idiotic brainwashing techniques as if they were lab rats. Its where ideas like NLP etc. came from...
@atadam43 I think thats only proof that those scripture exist... it not proof their content is accurate... or even relative to the discussion. Its certainly nothing to do with the video above thats for sure.
I mean I could quote any verse from lord of the rings... does that mean there really is one ring to bind them all?
'Truth' means 'verification', it means the thing you are saying is not only accurate...but that you can demonstrate its accuracy. Can you demonstrate this truth? validate it?
@MumblingMickey Truth means Jesus which is "the Way, the Truth, & the Life." Once you have a relationship with your Lord and Savior then you'll understand. The Holy Bible is the world's most popular and selling book ever!
I watched "Marjoe" in 1972 at the movies-recently got the DVD from Amazon. Thank you Marjoe Gortner for exposing these con men and women for what they are-hustlers! Love the movie!
I watched "Marjoe" in 1972 at the movies-recently got the DVD from Amazon. Thank you Marjoe Gortner for exposing these con men and women for what they are-hustlers! LOve the movie!
I watched "Marjoe" in 1872 at the movies-recently got the DVD from Amazon. Thank you Marjoe Gortner for exposing these con men and women for what they are-hustlers! LOve the movie!
@Panosl Yes, that's what I meant. Although scientists can get dogmatic about their views. Check out Thomas Kuhn on philosophy of science some time if you're interested in how scientific progress happens. =)
@Panosl Actually I think people should be allowed to believe what they want to and share those beliefs. There are many instances in which science later verifies commonly held unscientific beliefs. I just would prefer that, unless and until they can be shown to be based on fact, people's beliefs not influence the curriculum at my kids' schools or the laws of my country.
@PurrfectPeach "There are many instances in which science later verifies commonly held unscientific beliefs"
Yep that does happen but its a pretty rare event. An example might be science confirming that wearing copper bracelets does indeed have beneficial effects on those with rheumatism.
People can believe what they like... however I'm not in favor of them taking actions on those beliefs with no reason to support such actions. That would lead to a crazy society where idiocy ruled decisions.
@Panosl have you not followed the quantum math that has evidenced that there was a "beginning" to the big bang? Einstein was so upset with his finding that showed mathematically that if there was a beginning that there has to be a beginner that he wanted to rework his math of relativity but couldn't. (Even Hawkings has realized this.) There is no effect (creation) without a cause - God is the cause. He is the Beginner.
@Kingsdaughter2 The words 'beginning' and 'big bang' just don't go together. A beginning in relation to time requires 'time' for one thing, so it certainly cannot apply to something that generated 'time'.
And yes you can indeed have an effect with, without and even before a cause. Thats not only possible but does not breach any laws of physics and has been demonstrated. Its called retrocausality! However you can't have anything without a universe. Not a god...nor a big bang or anything.
@Kingsdaughter2 The word 'beginning' when applied to the universe is the wrong word... now fair enough we don't have a word to put in its place... but thats the limitations of the human mind and indeed human math for you...
However a beginning...would require time to exist... and since the universe was the birth of time itself...then it cannot have had a beginning... not in the traditional sense of the word anyway.
@zoomerx well, we are arguably a very gullible people. this applies most of all to middle class americans, though; working class people, regardless of where they are from, know when they are being screwed over and can smell a rat easily
@neosoc Its the poor that are targeted mostly by religions...it promises them things that they can't have... they can't have eternal life either... but when you are poor such considerations... reality, nature, education to tell the difference...etc. they are all as unreal as god anyway!
So they buy in...and remain poor... cos their motivation is removed as the purchase price.
this is really sad.....he took advantage of a lot of people that had good hearts and good intentions.....look at those poor old ladies giving money out of their heart and this fool shoots it up his arm.....hes gonna rot. The deception he worked he learned from deceptive parents.
this is really sad.....he took advantage of a lot of people that had good hearts and good intentions.....look at those poor old ladies giving money out of their heart and this fool shoots it up his arm.....hes gonna rot
@Aleksi4321 And what is different from what he is doing from what a a Tv Evangelist does?Nothing that's what.They prey on vulnerable people and he just shows how they do it.
@Aleksi4321 Marjoe Gortner had a conflict of conscience... unlike the Ted Haggards of this world he decided that since he did not think there was a god he could not continue to steal as all the others were doing, they too are not religious...but they do know how to use brainwashing techniques, and thats all they need.
Of course there's a God you wouldn't have a conscience if you there were no God.There's no reason for a conscience to evolve,in fact it's detrimental to success & reproduction.Trouble is all the ancient writtings that claim to be from God have been filtered thru the hands of men who have agendas,ulterior motives & a vested interest in controlling other men.There's a God he just chooses to remain hidden.
thats just ridiculous. "There's no reason for a conscience to evolve"
"consciousness" has made humans, a physically inferior animal, into the most powerful predator this planet has ever seen.
What is a T-rex compared to an atomic bomb?
Your argument is a giant argument from ignorance, you cant understand how consciousness evolved therefore "goddidit". Hey i cant understand how computers work so goddidit, how do planes fly? god holds them up with love.
@waitew Conscience? evolve? what are you talking about? Conscience is certainly NOT detrimental to reproduction... or to success (whatever you mean by that)
Conscience is just another feature or property of you mind that allows you to work in a group... and thats VERY beneficial.
God just 'chooses' to remain hidden? How the fuck do you know? Leprechauns choose to remain hidden. I offer the lack of evidence of them as proof they choose to do so!
@MumblingMickey Not There?Take anything man thinks he know (the laws of science/physics) & simply ask ,"why"?If you get answer ask,"why"? again.You wont have to ask too many times before the answer will be,"we don't know".Man is good at figuring out HOW the world works,making observations & applying labels.But he/science doesn't know a thing about WHY!The existence of God can't be disproved nor can his existence be proved to someone who wont see.Define your standard of evidence.Is it reasonable?
@waitew You are mixing up two types of why. There is 'why does a ball roll down a hill?' and' why am I here' . Both of those are different, a ball rolls due to gravity it explains both HOW and WHY the ball; rolls.
But if you try to use the second why...'Why does the ball roll' as if the ball 'decides' to roll then you have your answer. Which is 'Don't ask a stupid question balls don't decide anything!'
So you have your answer... don't ask stupid questions that presuppose there is a why!
@MumblingMickey So,the ultimate answer as far as science is concerned is,"it is because it is,don't ask why"? It's beginning to sound a lot like religion,"Don't ask too many questions!". Perhaps that shouldn't be surprising though since if you go back to the beginning both their answers sound curiously alike.Religion: first there nothing (not even time) then God created (Bang) everything. Then Science: first there's nothing (not even time) then Big Bang and we have the Cosmos.Sounds the same.
@waitew What ultimate answer?... you lost me? You mean to the question you made up? where you presupposed there was an answer to begin with? to a question that makes no sense...that one?
Sorry science doesn't do answers to stupid questions...neither do I!
Here while your trying to figure that out...tell me... what have penguins got to be thankful for?
Here look, in the immortal words of Douglas Adams the answer to life, the universe and everything is 42, now go find the question!
@waitew Also science does not state the universe started from a null point or non existence.... and the fact you think it does says more about your understanding of science (whilst typing that shit out on the fruits of science) than it does anything else...
Y'know ignorance will not make the world simpler to understand. If you shut your eyes and pretend there is no advance of knowledge it won't affect anything but your own personal knowledge!
Jesus, Paul, John, Peter clearly warned us of these false prophets - as Jesus said:
Do not be deceived. Paul warned us in Acts 20:29,30
"I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; 30and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them. 31 Therefore be on the alert "
@jerrylambert DUDE, I KNOW!!! lol i just saw no country for old men and he looked JUST like this in the movie....just a little creepy because bardem would have been what, like 10 when this was filmed? lol,,,glad someone else saw it too
@kennysandiso99 And therein lies the answer: People go to hear what they want to hear-this is why 'pastors' like Rick Warren and Joel Osteen, et al, are so big-they tickle the ears of the isteners. This was actually a warning to Christians, of those who will seek out teachers to scratch their ears, because they can no longer bear sound doctrine. People could keep from being taken in if they just paid attention to the Bible.
if scientific evidence of gods existence/non-existance doesnt exist, then obviously it doesnt point to gods existence/non-existence.
it should be ideally be based on what the naked eye sees. ideally science need not be involved. but until we find something better, science will have to do.
i ordered from peter popoff... he sent me a free squirt of holy water... even my christian mother got a kick out of how ridiculous evagelism is... religion is the biggest hoax of all time...
@crankycactus Religion was used originally to demand obedience from people who had no real education and little reason to understand anything but orders.
It is obviously still needed in some societies... but modern educated societies don't need it...nor could they hope to retain religion and good education at the same time in a single society...the two are not compatible.
So you can either be well educated...or very religious... its not possible to be both without also being psychotic!
@MumblingMickey Religion is man's attempt to grow closer to God, however Christianity is not religion. It's a personal relationship with our creator. You make some good points, but some of what you say is nonsense.
Respond to this video... This guy is not the ambassador of any religion whatsoever. It seems he has a little bit of knowledge, and he feels he is an authority figure. There are crooks everywhere, and that is the truth. I will not argue that fact but Marjoe is not exactly a Bible expert. He was a con-artist, and that's his character flaw
@gkamericoast REally... I was under the impression having read the history and watched Majoe the movie that he was in fact not only an evangelist preacher....but had been from the time he was a kid...and so was his father? no?
Didn't he memories the entire bible as a child?
Also ...erm.... in the movie didn't he point out all the other con artists doing the rounds at the time...some still going now?
Look religion is a money gig...pretty easy too... just rules of obedience to authority.
@gkamericoast Next Majoe in fact was the preecher who realised the immorality of what he was doing.... remember he was the one who decided to make a movie about the preeching circuit and how easily the sheep are duped into handing over cash.
Now if he was a 'real' con artist he'd never have done that and would still be ripping off the naive right now!
@CalinDemian By the standards of education as they stood in the bronze age I'm sure you are right, but by modern standards...no...the best educated person in 1000 bc would have their ass kicked stupid by any random 10 year old you care to mention.
Even Aristotle would be pummeled into a heap by my own teenage daughter.
@MumblingMickey Your understanding of "religion" is worse than a gradeschool child's. You are so ignorant I actually laughed (something I hardly do, being intensely serious and educated) at your ridiculously stupid post. Atheism was used originally to demand obedience from people that already had their allegiance in "religion" and stubbornly refused to give it to the Atheist State. A brilliant freethinker such as yourself should know what the genetic fallacy is, right?
@crankycactus Really? you mean we could start an atheist facebook campaign to allow him to totally waste postage and packaging? Hmmm... [naughty thoughts starting to germinate]
Sure doesn't help the case though. You'd think a god would protect his believers and smite the people taking advantage of them. Guess he thinks the 'free will' of those charlatans to trick them out of tons of money is more important than the financial well being of his followers.
This is a great example of why christians ruin this planet. If after you watch this documentary on christian murder rituals you still think there is a god, then there is no hope for you as a homosapein. Agora is murdered by ridiculous christian zealots and it is important to seek a way to cleanse this planet of all religion before we humans get murdered by christians or muslims.
@699backstab But now you should realise that christians are not neccessarily the people doing all of this. Its people who get into christianity to steal not christians. Christians are taken for a ride by these people.
@699backstab Nah...lets leave them and use them to do stupid shit for us. You can tell them any shit you like!
Thankfully these dumb fucks are just that. They really will fork out money for anyone that claims authority of a deity.... you should learn to keep your mouth shut and spend some time building a religious website with a donate button... we aren't all an conscience riddled as Majoe Gortner y'know!
Now shhhhh! Theres gold in them there Christians! Roll on 2012! money money money!
not the best video but thanks. surprised nobody has mentioned Heavy Dollars (google) - top site fantastically simple, iPaidSurveys is AMAZING, they pay you to answer questions, its v good!
What a "CREEP"! The reason I do not go to church is because of people like Marjoe Gortner and "Jim and Tammy Baker" (the bonnie and clyde of the religious world).
Drafter52 3 days ago
I'm in the wrong business. I'm sitting in front of a computer all day, slaving away for a few hundred bucks a month. I have back and neck aches from sitting too much. While these people just lie and cheat and make millions.
zeldaofarel 3 days ago
What people need is TRUTH, not counterfeits preaching a false gospel.
Shekanahh 1 month ago
@Shekanahh You mean like marjoes parents for example.... both preachers... both accepted as bearers of the 'truth' even after he admitted how they fleece their sheep!
Truth cannot be garnered from those who do not posses it. And closing your eyes to things you consider valid or 'truthful' because you might not like the consequences is exactly how they made their money.
MumblingMickey 1 week ago
The Tea party ought to love this guy. Why he is twice as sincere as any of them!
TheGranule 3 months ago
@TheGranule Leave it to the douche to bring this up.
calends 1 day ago
lol Sean Penn (I hope he is not reading this)!
VonManavis 4 months ago
The Lord Jesus Christ is " The Way ,The Truth and The Life ". He alone saves.During his time walking on Earth Jesus had harsh words for the religious leaders at the time because they burdened the people with their strict ,difficult requirements to righteousness.For all who believe and trust Christ as our saviour,he is our righteousness because of his sacrifice upon the cross to pay for our sins.No person can buy or work their way into God's favour .Only in Christ our we accepted by God .
TheHumbuckerboy 5 months ago
pimpin ain't easy lol or in the Jesus camp shoooot it's hell a easy tho!! lol
kahluaqueen 5 months ago
@brownbigb ... also I don't know if you grew up in the church as I did, but I was always taught that the church is not the brick and the morter we enter on Sunday. The individuals ARE the church. Mother Teresa and Dr. King both drew inspiration from the person Jesus of Nazareth. Back to my politics comment, even if the institution has issues, it is possible to acknowledge those issues exist and STILL think the teachings of Jesus Christ are worthwhile. You may not think so but I disagree.
b2223967 6 months ago 3
You know what you guys are doing is taking God to be part of Earth. He ISN'T. He made the Earth. Even if you think He doesn't exist. God lives on a different plane of existence to us and its called Heaven so all our theories of existence and laws of physics don't apply to Him. Science was never against God. The origin of science was to show the greatness of God in His creations. Which is like everything around.
jaryl13 6 months ago
Marjoe, "they can tell the shisters." ha! He is burning those guys right to the ground! lol
Godsmasher22 6 months ago
Joyofsatan(dot)org
OVER18MANWOMAN 7 months ago
Let's switch this to Politics... Conservative or Liberal. Just because there are some corrupt individuals in your party, do you stop believing in the basic principals that made you a Democrat or a Republican in the first place? Probably not, because there are better leaders out there................ I will not lose my faith in Jesus Christ (and all His goodness) because some HORRIBLE "Christians" exists be they abusive Catholic priests,or Bishop Eddie Long, or Marjoe or whoever...
b2223967 7 months ago
@b2223967 ok than lets switch to politics. The fastest growing religious group in America is youngsters who check no on religion. You don't have to loose your faith in Jesus Christ but religion and what you believe is finally on its way out of America. Now as you are a Christian all you have to do is say "I choose not to believe that". Pray and tell me if the polls change in your favor in the next ten or so years. I wont hold my breath.
landesdesign 7 months ago
@landesdesign "There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics".-Mark Twain However, I have heard similar reports. Those polls will change (one way or the other) as the people change. America in general is in for some BIG changes; the minorities becoming the majority.I wouldn't count the Church out just yet, not with a growing Latino population made up of Roman Catholics and the Assemblies of God. Not to mention Blacks who were surveyed recently as "the most religious ethnic group".
b2223967 7 months ago
@b2223967 being religious has nothing to do with ethnicity. it has to do with lack of education, lack of finances and lack of intelligence. and even if you think that god and religion is not evil, the church certainly is. the church has as much to do with god as politics has to do with honesty and caring about the people.
brownbigb 6 months ago
@brownbigb NOTHING to do? Cultures and faiths are strongly connected. Ask the Irish or the Italians who aren't practicing Roman Catholics. Not that my blood or my skin means that I HAVE to worship a certain god. Of course my MIND makes that choice. But to say they have NO relationship, I disagree. The church has done BAD, HORRIBLE things (i.e. the Inquistion), it has also done GOOD things. Do the names Mother Teresa or Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ring a bell? Refer to my politics comment.
b2223967 6 months ago
@b2223967 cultures yes. but not ethnicity. people don't believe in god because they are black or mexican. they do believe in god because of lack of education or intelligence. the church didn't do mother theresa or MLK. that was the individuals.
brownbigb 6 months ago
@brownbigb I am insulted when Atheists insist that a belief in God requires a lack of intelligence or education. I have my BA, I'm in grad school. Took the same GRE as everyone else. AND I am a Christian. I have had the chance to read "the God Delusion" by Dawkins, (He made some points, but I've also read "The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism" by Keller. He made some points.) I have questioned, doubted and wrestled with my faith but I have made my own conclusion.
b2223967 6 months ago
@b2223967 be insulted all you want, the fact is, the more uneducated, the more impoverished a group is, the more religious it is. also there is a direct correlation to intelligence. the higher the iq, the lower the % of religious believers. there are exceptions, but on the whole that holds true. i am not an atheist, i am an anti theist. read hitchens and harris. much more convincing and to the point than dawkins. the individuals are not the church. the church is an institution.
brownbigb 6 months ago
@brownbigb Well you know who you are, and I know who I am. "Be insulted all you want" Insults start fights. The world is full of people who disagree and yet have to share the same planet. Since we won't agree, and this won't ever resolve, we may as well end our comments amicably... What is Harris's first name? (Given it is a common last name). I like to read, one more book never hurts.
b2223967 6 months ago
@b2223967 I like the tone of the posts you've made here. A credible faith I think is one that embraces both assurance and questions, and allows for the growth of an adherent as s/he continues to compare what is believed with evidence & experience. The ability to accept that traditional dogma may from time to time need to be re-evaluated, while still believing or intuiting that there is still a reality to something that transcends the physical world, can propel us forward in our quest for God.
Tigerpaws9097826 5 months ago
@brownbigb "lower the % of religious believers". True, but I just want to state that Jesus Christ (God) is different from religion. In the book of Corinthians, it specifies how people like these "spiritual leaders" and followers r not true Christians. I believe that we as humans blame God for all these ppl's wrong doings, but God did not send us to act this way. And I also believe that any person that SOUNDS smart, can brainwash any weak mind. It doesn't have to be religion related.
swhfch 5 months ago
@swhfch did god know we were gonna act this way?
brownbigb 5 months ago
@swhfch excellent points!
gkamericoast 3 months ago
@b2223967 wrestle no more, I see you're smart and you will emerge from the religion cocoon like the lovely smart butterfly that you are.....
kahluaqueen 5 months ago
Lord have mercy... this is so sad. To take things as wonderful as Faith, Hope and Love... and the simple human desire for such things and prostitute it. It's simply sad. I am actually glad the film Marjoe was made however. What he did was horrible but hopefully people will see this and learn from it. I was raised in the Pentecostal church and am still a Christian. If you can't take criticism, perhaps you should check your faith.
b2223967 7 months ago
@b2223967 you really think he is the only one that has done this? any way a man or woman can make money out of the preaching "gods" word they do. whether it be predicting the end of the world or saying that they are the next messiah. either way its all fake. people learn from what they are taught growing up and they will believe that, because they dont know any different. maybe you should look in a science book and learn some serious facts.
kelbsify 7 months ago
@kelbsify You come off hostile. "Maybe you should look in a science book and learn some serious facts!" I'm a college graduate, I read, I travel and I love science. It is fascinating. I also love Jesus. He's awesome. My spirituality is a personal choice. You can be a Christian without spending a dime on teleEvangelists. Read. Pray. and Give to the poor/homeless. You think my faith is a waste of time, well *shrugs* it's my life. 'Fact': The entire WORLD is a mess, not just the "Christian" part.
b2223967 7 months ago
@b2223967 faith is not wonderful. it is stupid. belief without evidence.
brownbigb 6 months ago
Are you guys really gonna judge a religion because of a bunch of corrupt leaders in it? Power corrupts, we all know that. When some selfish asshole finds that he can trick people into giving money by just standing on stage and saying, "Give to the Lord and He shall bless you back", hell he'll take it! Religion is not evil. It is just used for selfish purposes by some of its leaders. Strip away all the God talk and all religion does is talk about morals. How to treat others and live honest lives.
jaryl13 8 months ago
@jaryl13 religion is evil. and since power corrupts, the biggest selfish asshole is god.
brownbigb 6 months ago
@brownbigb Wow really? Think about it for a second would you? Even if God doesn't exist, think about that. He has the power to vaporize you by blinking yet he doesn't. He has could make you a thoughtless servant but he gave you freedom of choice. He cared enough for you to put aside his immortality and power, come down as a human, be tortured and die hung on a cross. So even if He doesn't exist, He is an example of complete uncorruptability.
jaryl13 6 months ago
@jaryl13 which god? right now you are talking about the story of horus from what i can tell. of course if god doesn't exists, it can hardly do any of those things? there are over 10000 gods people believe in. how do you choose which one? if there was a god, it could not give you free will and remain omniscient, so that is not an issue. is god dead? you said it died. wherever did you read that a god was hung on a cross? crucifixions did not use a cross. god created evil. ultimate corruption.
brownbigb 6 months ago
@brownbigb Wow nice. I'm talking about Jehovah alright. You know, Jesus. I don't think you even get the concept of a god. God refers to a being that can do ANYTHING. And by ANYTHING I mean He can do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you could possibly think up, weather its impossible for us to do or not. Thats the whole definition of the word "god". And which history textbook did you read? Crucifixtions did use a cross. And good cannot exist without evil, corruption cannot exist without purity.
jaryl13 6 months ago
@jaryl13 actually that story is in the book of horus originally. jehova? you mean yhwh? nice contradicting yourself. god can do anything, yet good can not exist without evil. how did you end up with that god out of all the different ones? they used a "T" in crucifixions. never a cross. it was not practical. they had the upright portion in the ground, and lifted the crossbeam onto it with the person tied (not nailed) to the crossbeam. it was a "T". the person looked like a cross, hence the name.
brownbigb 6 months ago
@brownbigb The whole "T" shaped cross is a theory. In some records its a cross, in others its a "T". And in some records, crucifixtion tied the man, in others they were nailed, in others its both. So no one knows for sure which mothod exactly was used by the Romans. It could very well be all of them. And yes, Jehovah(The Father), Yahweh(The Son) and the Holy Ghost. If I'm not wrong, Horus is a Roman god. The Romans made up gods to satisfy human curiosity. So did the Chinese, Greeks and Indians.
jaryl13 6 months ago
@jaryl13 you are wrong. horus is not a roman god. it is the god that jesus' story was borrowed from. you are very correct in saying that the romans, the greeks, the jews, the christians, the chinese and so on made up gods to satisfy human curiosity. that is the definition of religion. it is good to see that you understand that god is a human construct. good for you.
brownbigb 6 months ago
@brownbigb You know if you don't mind. I'm not gonna argue about God's existence with you. Cause I'm going down to my church to help with a charity event. Yeah, we're raising money to help people in Karan. They're in constant civil war and all they have to keep themselves going is faith in God. So instead of calling religion evil and calling ppl stupid for having faith in God, you might wanna care a little. We're going to give them food, clothes, books and stationery. So good day to you.
jaryl13 6 months ago
I am glad that these videos are out for the public to see and be educated about how evil religions really are.
sciencevsreligion01 8 months ago
I enjoy watching "Marjoe" the movie today even more than I did in '72! Man-he could work a room! 'Ya gotta love it!!!!!
pranksterguy1 8 months ago
If I had a time machine, I'd go back and kill Billy Sunday; or at least convince him to stick to baseball. That way, we'd never have to worry about all these four-flushing greedy liars.
neosoc 8 months ago
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1 John 4:1 - "1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world." Also Kundalini spirit is very often present in today's churches!!!
fanaber70 8 months ago
Whoa. This is depressing when you think about all those pastors taking money from people.
BatliciousBatgirl 9 months ago
5:14 mark.....LMAO
BJ10pt 10 months ago
@Panosl Oddly on the cause and effect thing both Hawking and indeed Penrose (who although friends rarely agree on jack shit) both agree there is no requirement for cause and effect in any initiation of a universe.
Cause and effect don't even need to happen in that order...since retro-causality is not only mathematically demonstrated but also recently demonstrated in the US by a nuclear physicist.
Ergo things don't need to have a cause...and if they do it does not need to precede the effect!
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
@Panosl Well in the absence of anything else... is what he meant...
Science was an easy target to be honest... until recently it never bothered to address 'GOD' as a scientific field.
But given the jumping up an down of creationists and whatnot over the last century... well they just stupidly drew attention to themselves...so psychologists now research their idiotic brainwashing techniques as if they were lab rats. Its where ideas like NLP etc. came from...
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
5$-10$ IN 1972 IS LIKE 20$-30$ TODAY
lamarimpala 11 months ago
i can't believe this crap, just taking money off the people like the filthy grub these evangelists are.
halflifeproductionz 11 months ago
This is PROOF of scriptures Matthew 24: 24-25, Romans 16:18, & Matthew 7:15-16!! GOD'S WORD is the TRUTH!! Praise the Lord!!
atadam43 1 year ago
@atadam43 I think thats only proof that those scripture exist... it not proof their content is accurate... or even relative to the discussion. Its certainly nothing to do with the video above thats for sure.
I mean I could quote any verse from lord of the rings... does that mean there really is one ring to bind them all?
'Truth' means 'verification', it means the thing you are saying is not only accurate...but that you can demonstrate its accuracy. Can you demonstrate this truth? validate it?
MumblingMickey 11 months ago
@MumblingMickey Truth means Jesus which is "the Way, the Truth, & the Life." Once you have a relationship with your Lord and Savior then you'll understand. The Holy Bible is the world's most popular and selling book ever!
atadam43 11 months ago
@atadam43 'Truth' is one of two things.
Its either a fact that was previously not know as factual but has since been validated.
OR
Conformity to observation.
one or the other.
I'd just love for yo to tell me where there is any 'truth' in anything the bible tells you Jesus said, Jesus existing in the first place.
BTW Jesus claiming 'you feet are at the end of your legs' is certainly truth, But not useful information.
MumblingMickey 11 months ago
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@atadam43 add 2 Timothy 3:13 :: But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived
Kingsdaughter2 11 months ago
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This is PROOF of scriptures Matthew 24: 24-25, Romans 16:18, & Matthew 7:15-15. God's Word is the TRUTH!! Praise the Lord!! :-)
atadam43 1 year ago
This is PROOF of scriptures Matthew 24: 24-25, Romans 16:18, & Matthew 7:15-15. God's Word is the TRUTH!! Praise the Lord!! :-)
atadam43 1 year ago
Pardon me-let's make that 1972! LOL!
pranksterguy1 1 year ago
@pranksterguy1 yeah I was about to ask you what side you served on during the civil war! lol
MumblingMickey 11 months ago
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I watched "Marjoe" in 1972 at the movies-recently got the DVD from Amazon. Thank you Marjoe Gortner for exposing these con men and women for what they are-hustlers! Love the movie!
pranksterguy1 1 year ago
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I watched "Marjoe" in 1972 at the movies-recently got the DVD from Amazon. Thank you Marjoe Gortner for exposing these con men and women for what they are-hustlers! LOve the movie!
pranksterguy1 1 year ago
I watched "Marjoe" in 1872 at the movies-recently got the DVD from Amazon. Thank you Marjoe Gortner for exposing these con men and women for what they are-hustlers! LOve the movie!
pranksterguy1 1 year ago
thumb up if you watched this video after seeing South Park episode "Probably"
clemopcl 1 year ago
eeeeeeasyyyy money!!
qwertyfire 1 year ago
@Panosl Yes, that's what I meant. Although scientists can get dogmatic about their views. Check out Thomas Kuhn on philosophy of science some time if you're interested in how scientific progress happens. =)
PurrfectPeach 1 year ago
@Panosl Actually I think people should be allowed to believe what they want to and share those beliefs. There are many instances in which science later verifies commonly held unscientific beliefs. I just would prefer that, unless and until they can be shown to be based on fact, people's beliefs not influence the curriculum at my kids' schools or the laws of my country.
PurrfectPeach 1 year ago
@PurrfectPeach "There are many instances in which science later verifies commonly held unscientific beliefs"
Yep that does happen but its a pretty rare event. An example might be science confirming that wearing copper bracelets does indeed have beneficial effects on those with rheumatism.
People can believe what they like... however I'm not in favor of them taking actions on those beliefs with no reason to support such actions. That would lead to a crazy society where idiocy ruled decisions.
MumblingMickey 11 months ago
This is awesome, Praise The Lord!!!
shandcunt 1 year ago
@Panosl have you not followed the quantum math that has evidenced that there was a "beginning" to the big bang? Einstein was so upset with his finding that showed mathematically that if there was a beginning that there has to be a beginner that he wanted to rework his math of relativity but couldn't. (Even Hawkings has realized this.) There is no effect (creation) without a cause - God is the cause. He is the Beginner.
Kingsdaughter2 1 year ago
@Kingsdaughter2 The words 'beginning' and 'big bang' just don't go together. A beginning in relation to time requires 'time' for one thing, so it certainly cannot apply to something that generated 'time'.
And yes you can indeed have an effect with, without and even before a cause. Thats not only possible but does not breach any laws of physics and has been demonstrated. Its called retrocausality! However you can't have anything without a universe. Not a god...nor a big bang or anything.
MumblingMickey 11 months ago
@Kingsdaughter2 The word 'beginning' when applied to the universe is the wrong word... now fair enough we don't have a word to put in its place... but thats the limitations of the human mind and indeed human math for you...
However a beginning...would require time to exist... and since the universe was the birth of time itself...then it cannot have had a beginning... not in the traditional sense of the word anyway.
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
The level of idiocy of Americans vis-a-vis Religion never ceases to amaze me.
zoomerx 1 year ago
@zoomerx well, we are arguably a very gullible people. this applies most of all to middle class americans, though; working class people, regardless of where they are from, know when they are being screwed over and can smell a rat easily
neosoc 1 year ago
@neosoc Its the poor that are targeted mostly by religions...it promises them things that they can't have... they can't have eternal life either... but when you are poor such considerations... reality, nature, education to tell the difference...etc. they are all as unreal as god anyway!
So they buy in...and remain poor... cos their motivation is removed as the purchase price.
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
I think that lady at the table wanted him...
devilstyle1 1 year ago 4
this is really sad.....he took advantage of a lot of people that had good hearts and good intentions.....look at those poor old ladies giving money out of their heart and this fool shoots it up his arm.....hes gonna rot. The deception he worked he learned from deceptive parents.
Aleksi4321 1 year ago
this is really sad.....he took advantage of a lot of people that had good hearts and good intentions.....look at those poor old ladies giving money out of their heart and this fool shoots it up his arm.....hes gonna rot
Aleksi4321 1 year ago
@Aleksi4321 And what is different from what he is doing from what a a Tv Evangelist does?Nothing that's what.They prey on vulnerable people and he just shows how they do it.
Bystronicman08 1 year ago
@Aleksi4321 Marjoe Gortner had a conflict of conscience... unlike the Ted Haggards of this world he decided that since he did not think there was a god he could not continue to steal as all the others were doing, they too are not religious...but they do know how to use brainwashing techniques, and thats all they need.
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
He's (was) cute and intelligent.
SinfulJew 1 year ago
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I'm not going to lie about it. I'll be glad when I finally drop dead.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
Notice the people at the table didn't even pray before they ate. Hahaaaaaaaaa..
jalapenoboy93 1 year ago
Of course there's a God you wouldn't have a conscience if you there were no God.There's no reason for a conscience to evolve,in fact it's detrimental to success & reproduction.Trouble is all the ancient writtings that claim to be from God have been filtered thru the hands of men who have agendas,ulterior motives & a vested interest in controlling other men.There's a God he just chooses to remain hidden.
waitew 1 year ago
@waitew, your reasoning is flawed. A consciousness has nothing to do with the existence of a god or not.
BogusJesus 1 year ago
@waitew
thats just ridiculous. "There's no reason for a conscience to evolve"
"consciousness" has made humans, a physically inferior animal, into the most powerful predator this planet has ever seen.
What is a T-rex compared to an atomic bomb?
Your argument is a giant argument from ignorance, you cant understand how consciousness evolved therefore "goddidit". Hey i cant understand how computers work so goddidit, how do planes fly? god holds them up with love.
Ignorance is not reason.
qarohc 1 year ago
@waitew Conscience? evolve? what are you talking about? Conscience is certainly NOT detrimental to reproduction... or to success (whatever you mean by that)
Conscience is just another feature or property of you mind that allows you to work in a group... and thats VERY beneficial.
God just 'chooses' to remain hidden? How the fuck do you know? Leprechauns choose to remain hidden. I offer the lack of evidence of them as proof they choose to do so!
Are you familiar with the idea of 'NOT THERE'?
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
@MumblingMickey Not There?Take anything man thinks he know (the laws of science/physics) & simply ask ,"why"?If you get answer ask,"why"? again.You wont have to ask too many times before the answer will be,"we don't know".Man is good at figuring out HOW the world works,making observations & applying labels.But he/science doesn't know a thing about WHY!The existence of God can't be disproved nor can his existence be proved to someone who wont see.Define your standard of evidence.Is it reasonable?
waitew 10 months ago
@waitew You are mixing up two types of why. There is 'why does a ball roll down a hill?' and' why am I here' . Both of those are different, a ball rolls due to gravity it explains both HOW and WHY the ball; rolls.
But if you try to use the second why...'Why does the ball roll' as if the ball 'decides' to roll then you have your answer. Which is 'Don't ask a stupid question balls don't decide anything!'
So you have your answer... don't ask stupid questions that presuppose there is a why!
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
@MumblingMickey So,the ultimate answer as far as science is concerned is,"it is because it is,don't ask why"? It's beginning to sound a lot like religion,"Don't ask too many questions!". Perhaps that shouldn't be surprising though since if you go back to the beginning both their answers sound curiously alike.Religion: first there nothing (not even time) then God created (Bang) everything. Then Science: first there's nothing (not even time) then Big Bang and we have the Cosmos.Sounds the same.
waitew 10 months ago
@waitew What ultimate answer?... you lost me? You mean to the question you made up? where you presupposed there was an answer to begin with? to a question that makes no sense...that one?
Sorry science doesn't do answers to stupid questions...neither do I!
Here while your trying to figure that out...tell me... what have penguins got to be thankful for?
Here look, in the immortal words of Douglas Adams the answer to life, the universe and everything is 42, now go find the question!
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
@waitew Also science does not state the universe started from a null point or non existence.... and the fact you think it does says more about your understanding of science (whilst typing that shit out on the fruits of science) than it does anything else...
Y'know ignorance will not make the world simpler to understand. If you shut your eyes and pretend there is no advance of knowledge it won't affect anything but your own personal knowledge!
In the meantime the rest of us will carry on!
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
Jesus, Paul, John, Peter clearly warned us of these false prophets - as Jesus said:
Do not be deceived. Paul warned us in Acts 20:29,30
"I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; 30and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them. 31 Therefore be on the alert "
Kingsdaughter2 1 year ago
@Kingsdaughter2
Jesus must have been warning us about himself.
qarohc 1 year ago
One born every minute...one christian.
FluffyFeralMarmot 1 year ago
9:26 Javier Bardem
jerrylambert 1 year ago
@jerrylambert DUDE, I KNOW!!! lol i just saw no country for old men and he looked JUST like this in the movie....just a little creepy because bardem would have been what, like 10 when this was filmed? lol,,,glad someone else saw it too
goodtimecharlie3 1 year ago
OMG
despindola 1 year ago
8:25: "Stay at my church while I go to Brazil"??!!!! lol!!
davidchapincastillo 1 year ago
This so saddd and funny at the same time cos I know a lot of preachers like him. "Saying what people want to hear"
kennysandiso99 1 year ago
@kennysandiso99 And therein lies the answer: People go to hear what they want to hear-this is why 'pastors' like Rick Warren and Joel Osteen, et al, are so big-they tickle the ears of the isteners. This was actually a warning to Christians, of those who will seek out teachers to scratch their ears, because they can no longer bear sound doctrine. People could keep from being taken in if they just paid attention to the Bible.
ukulelemike 1 year ago
if scientific evidence of gods existence/non-existance doesnt exist, then obviously it doesnt point to gods existence/non-existence.
it should be ideally be based on what the naked eye sees. ideally science need not be involved. but until we find something better, science will have to do.
yamaha893 2 years ago
i ordered from peter popoff... he sent me a free squirt of holy water... even my christian mother got a kick out of how ridiculous evagelism is... religion is the biggest hoax of all time...
crankycactus 2 years ago 25
@crankycactus Religion was used originally to demand obedience from people who had no real education and little reason to understand anything but orders.
It is obviously still needed in some societies... but modern educated societies don't need it...nor could they hope to retain religion and good education at the same time in a single society...the two are not compatible.
So you can either be well educated...or very religious... its not possible to be both without also being psychotic!
MumblingMickey 11 months ago 13
@MumblingMickey Religion is man's attempt to grow closer to God, however Christianity is not religion. It's a personal relationship with our creator. You make some good points, but some of what you say is nonsense.
gkamericoast 3 months ago
Respond to this video... This guy is not the ambassador of any religion whatsoever. It seems he has a little bit of knowledge, and he feels he is an authority figure. There are crooks everywhere, and that is the truth. I will not argue that fact but Marjoe is not exactly a Bible expert. He was a con-artist, and that's his character flaw
gkamericoast 3 months ago
@gkamericoast REally... I was under the impression having read the history and watched Majoe the movie that he was in fact not only an evangelist preacher....but had been from the time he was a kid...and so was his father? no?
Didn't he memories the entire bible as a child?
Also ...erm.... in the movie didn't he point out all the other con artists doing the rounds at the time...some still going now?
Look religion is a money gig...pretty easy too... just rules of obedience to authority.
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@gkamericoast Next Majoe in fact was the preecher who realised the immorality of what he was doing.... remember he was the one who decided to make a movie about the preeching circuit and how easily the sheep are duped into handing over cash.
Now if he was a 'real' con artist he'd never have done that and would still be ripping off the naive right now!
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@MumblingMickey I just did it to advance his "acting" and "singing" both of which sucked. Still the same ol' con artist.
calends 1 day ago
@MumblingMickey you made me laugh, haha... there are great God's men in the Bible who were pretty well educated :)
CalinDemian 1 week ago
@CalinDemian By the standards of education as they stood in the bronze age I'm sure you are right, but by modern standards...no...the best educated person in 1000 bc would have their ass kicked stupid by any random 10 year old you care to mention.
Even Aristotle would be pummeled into a heap by my own teenage daughter.
That's progress...
MumblingMickey 1 week ago
@MumblingMickey Your understanding of "religion" is worse than a gradeschool child's. You are so ignorant I actually laughed (something I hardly do, being intensely serious and educated) at your ridiculously stupid post. Atheism was used originally to demand obedience from people that already had their allegiance in "religion" and stubbornly refused to give it to the Atheist State. A brilliant freethinker such as yourself should know what the genetic fallacy is, right?
calends 1 day ago
@crankycactus "i ordered from peter popoff"
You must like wasting money... you don't play poker by any chance do you?
MumblingMickey 11 months ago
@MumblingMickey i only ordered the first free squirt of water... i obviously wouldnt give money to that perverted fuck...
crankycactus 11 months ago
@crankycactus Really? you mean we could start an atheist facebook campaign to allow him to totally waste postage and packaging? Hmmm... [naughty thoughts starting to germinate]
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
Jesus would be proud
JamaicanMon 2 years ago
gods existence/non-existence is not contingent on whether religion is true or not.
yamaha893 2 years ago
Sure doesn't help the case though. You'd think a god would protect his believers and smite the people taking advantage of them. Guess he thinks the 'free will' of those charlatans to trick them out of tons of money is more important than the financial well being of his followers.
mathmexican4234 2 years ago
you would think that only if you thought that god was the one that everyone projects their wishful thinking upon.
yamaha893 2 years ago
This is a great example of why christians ruin this planet. If after you watch this documentary on christian murder rituals you still think there is a god, then there is no hope for you as a homosapein. Agora is murdered by ridiculous christian zealots and it is important to seek a way to cleanse this planet of all religion before we humans get murdered by christians or muslims.
699backstab 2 years ago 3
@699backstab But now you should realise that christians are not neccessarily the people doing all of this. Its people who get into christianity to steal not christians. Christians are taken for a ride by these people.
kennysandiso99 1 year ago
@699backstab Nah...lets leave them and use them to do stupid shit for us. You can tell them any shit you like!
Thankfully these dumb fucks are just that. They really will fork out money for anyone that claims authority of a deity.... you should learn to keep your mouth shut and spend some time building a religious website with a donate button... we aren't all an conscience riddled as Majoe Gortner y'know!
Now shhhhh! Theres gold in them there Christians! Roll on 2012! money money money!
MumblingMickey 10 months ago
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Bonnieorren 2 years ago