air disaster - valujet flight 592

[michaelpilot1000]

Low paid, non-union ground crew.

Refuelers and cargo people make an avg. of 12.00 per hour.

What is wrong with this ?

[shaindaman13]

@michaelpilot1000 Yeah everyone knows that union workers never screw up.

[dwcwv5]

@shaindaman13 they weren't unionized...they were outsourced contractors.

[floatpool]

@michaelpilot1000 yeah, union workers don't f'ck off at all. I'll tell my wife that who is an air traffic controller, she came home with a story about a black female reading her book, propping her feet up on the console and saying "I'm tired of doing all the work around here". So they wrote up her supervisor, because he was a weak white guy. Thank god for unions.

[Htown20XX]

At least they probably didnt suffer. High speed impact is instant death no time for pain

[robertoflam55]

EN LOS ULTIMOS 20 AÑOS LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS DERRIBARON 73 AVIONES DE PASAJEROS, PARA QUEBRAR AEROLINEAS, Y APODERARSE DE LAS EMPRESAS Y LAS RUTAS AEROCOMERCIALES. ENTRE LOS MAS RESONADOS CASOS SE ENCUENTRA EL Air Bus 320 QUE DERRIBARON EN BRASIL, EL CONCORD, Y EN SU MAYORÍA NAVES DE LOS PAÍSES LATINOAMERICANOS. DESPUES DE ÉSOS ATENTADOS, EMPRESAS NORTEAMERICANAS, TOMARON LAS RUTAS, Y EN ALGUNOS CASOS SE APROPIARON DE LAS EMPRESAS QUE FUERON OBLIGADAS A "QUEBRAR"

DESPUES DEL DESASTRE.

[RoundenBrown]

As the old adage goes: You get what you pay for.

[pmuaddib12]

@RoundenBrown

Fuck off and die.

[RoundenBrown]

@pmuaddib12 U MAD

[jamesbond504]

@zidane583 i never understand why they dont have parachutes on planes ,safety comes first right ,a plane crashed in new orleans when i was 11 ,in 1982 ,and i been scared to fly ever since ,they need to start putting parachutes on planes

[PeaceLoveTofu88]

@jamesbond504 That would require for the government to require all passengers on flights to take courses on how to use parachutes before flying. This would cost millions of dollars that we don't have, slow down the flying industry, and... Okay, sorry. Just cutting to the chase now. It's a horrible idea :P

[MrHUSKYPUPPY]

3:01 Funny how you hear the start of the explosion before the plane hits the Everglades.

[chuckproductionscm]

How do 49 people like this?

[PeaceLoveTofu88]

@chuckproductionscm Are you insinuating that we should only regard educational/informational videos that DON'T have to do with disasters? That would cut out over 3/4 of human history Haha... I don't think anyone likes this because of the disaster itself, but rather the educational aspect.

[chuckproductionscm]

@PeaceLoveTofu88 Well now that I look at it I could see where people like it because of the educational/informational part of the video; and why people don't like it because it was a disaster. I wasn't insinuating anything, I probably should of thought for a second more before I posted this.

[thenoobcando]

hmmmm i live in florida by everglades i wonder when this happened?

[EZR09]

I would have coughed and died on that plane too and I feel horrible for all those people who died on that plane.

[BrokenAeroVT]

As far as the USPS is concerned, there r very strict guidelines 4 what can & can't b shipped air & how it should be packed. All my aerosol, lithium bat & fuel items 4 my Appalachian Trail hike were restricted 2 ground, had 2b carefully packed in certain ways & labeled 4 hazamat & flash pt. Despite my careful research & cooperation, a few clerks didn't understand USPS hazmat rules & asserted their ignorance pretending they did. I just rolled over & played stupid just 2 get my packages delivered.

[dolabla1]

I remember watching this in class at Alabama Aviation College

[MegaMaster456]

Whoever put that oxygen generator in the plane is one big dumbass.

[Erionnacirema]

NEVER place Oxygen or Oxygen-containing materials around other cargo, or structures which could cause FIRE or Explosive reaction.

Someone didn't KNOW these HAZMAT Rules.

A better way to ship Oxygen generators in by Rail, Truck or Ship.

Putting them in "tight" space, like the SEALED cargo compartment of a Jet was a TRAGIC decision by the Cargo company.

The Shipper should have DISABLED those OGs as well.

[daneo1000]

@Erionnacirema or just dont loosly pack them or even worse out of date 1s they wernt placed there by valujet FACT

[Erionnacirema]

There R several parties were DIRECTLY responsible for the Crash and tragic  loss of human lives. The cargo-loading crew is only partial to blame. They were only doing their job.

Those Oxygen generators should NEVER have been loaded onto a commercial jetliner ! How INSANE a decision by the Shipper.

Being an ex commercial operator (truck-driver) myself, I know the Regulations for HAZMAT materials quite well.

[wowfcukthatsbig]

thats really bad

[quazimutato]

Some pilots have theorized that when the flight attendant opened the cockpit door to speak to the flight crew, they were able to see passengers literally on fire and they put the plane into a nose dive to end the horrible scene. Hence the literal nosedive into the everglades.

[EZR09]

@quazimutato I don't blame Jennifer for complaining to the pilots, but I would have complained too.

[Computergeew]

Nobody survived.....

[misterwipedown]

Well that is comforting.

[kurtw71]

the McDonnell Douglas DC-9-32 is a excellent plane, very airworthy.

[mr1940s]

the sad thing is if that they had knowledge of the fire they could have stpped the teakoff and evacuated saving all onboard

[whb1965]

airtran now has all new aircraft.. no more junk...

[sideslide23]

What could have they done to prevent a Bus fire, and have the motorcoach crash into a swamp?

[ZuluWun]

the co-pilot signed off on the cargo too, it wasn't just the rampie's fault. It's also illegal to load hazmat on a passenger flight. the mechanics shipping them also didn't secure the firing pins of the canisters and didn't realize some were still full.

[JohnDoenumber3]

For a Co2 compressor contributing to the fire source they were doomed. The guys who just tossed them boxes on are the final straw, and everybody dies.

[ZR3FR1K]

Dont fly valujet. Hahaha

[sbranson01]

ValuJet is now AirTran.

[MrIssues2]

i hpe the ground workers were either fired or suspended

[eepruls]

It's amazing how many accidents are the result of shoddy maintenance or careless mistakes by workers. I wish people in the industry really understood how important it is to do things correctly. It's not like working at Burger King where leaving off a pickle isn't that big of a deal!

[sonicfan7]

dude... THEY SHOULD BE GONE IN JAIL!

[Arthur60]

At 1:32, countdown shows 03:30 then 02:29 !

[kurtw71]

Pilots should allways be aware what they are carrying.

[MrIssues2]

tru dat

[BloodyBay]

@kurtw71 What if the ground crew doesn't bother to tell them? What if the oxygen generators were slipped aboard at the last minute before the airplane sealed up and left the loading area?

Clearly the ground crew was 100% at fault for this disaster, both through not properly loading and securing hazardous cargo and for not advising the pilot and co-pilot of said cargo. The cockpit crew was entirely guiltless here.

[BusterBunker]

Rip to all people on board. Ground crew should of been less careless with the cargo. As a funny note, I guess you don't fly with an airline named ValuJet. You get what you pay for. No Not really. Human error on the ground is what caused it. Carelessness

[Havoc737903]

@BusterBunker Even the most careful ground crew couldn't have known that the oxygen generators were loosely packed. Regardless of where they placed this cargo, the fact that it was loosely packed by the sender, whoever that may have been, meant that there was no way of knowing this type of incident would happen. Kind of hard to label this as out right carelessness. In my opinion this accident was one of the relatively rare times that negligence is not 100% to blame for an accident.

[Jackrabbitslim47]

@Havoc737903 Negligence is 100% to blame, only this time the yoke is placed on the sender's back, not the handlers or airline.

[hartistry1957]

@BusterBunker How is that funny? Is there something funny about a screw up ending lives of people expecting live that day. Look up some comedy clips or sumpin. Your '11 thumbs should be downs:(

[jbird0168]

I believe they were repackaged as AirTran

[CB563]

Yes they were. And still based in Florida...

[sideslide23]

Airtran goes every whare in the U.S. including Phoenix Arizona, I see Airtran at PHX.

[queenregina1967]

the little girl on 2:20 is the sames girl on 2:47

[queenregina1967]

you could hear a piano at the end

[blingwatch]

seems all air crews air only human

lets learn from this

[bananasfoster2]

Yea airtran is good... value jet sucks.....

[FALL3NSK8R1245]

oh my god thats crazy

[joejayd]

i was born may11th 1995

the plane crashed may 11th 1996

this is a shocker to me

[Dionysius63]

Bert Kaempfert!!

[rufusandburne]

I bet they did not cover this on flight sim...lol

[coreylahey1985]

mother fucker, idiot

[snoop8492]

ITSNO LONGER VALUJET IT IS AIR TRAN NOW

[COOH28]

She should used the masks...that's was her only chance the get the jet out of it..with such a fire on board she didn't have many chances anyway.

[bananasfoster2]

No she shouldnt you dumbass.  The oxygen would have caused the plane to pretty much blow up in mid air.

[COOH28]

You call me dumbass, funny indeed. Belive me that I know aviation world better than you. She was anyway in a lost situation, puting the masks on wouldn't change anything and the chanches that the oxygen from the would enhance the fire are low anyway.

[drrb20]

its regulation...they were trained not to drop the masks in smoke...-_-...u shud watch air canada flight 797

[minglianz]

@drrb20 yea. they're only used if the aircraft is depressurizing such as britishairways flt9. 797 blew up coz of the oxygen that came in when the doors were opened during evacuation

[sideslide23]

when Swiss air had smoke and fire, the pilot used their oxygen mask and the plane didn't blow up very fast.

[alexsuchapimp]

No wonder, women can't fly airplanes.

[julebuggy]

Couldn't the pilot bust out the window? They were low enough to not get such a pressure change.

[InflatedSnake]

window is bassically bullet proof

[OmegaGraham]

Scarey, scarey and scarey!

[PillowTalkP]

:( my cousin was on this flight

[YliNegatiivinen]

Sad.. :/

[guitarbabe21]

I'm really sorry to hear that. really sorry.

[maggieblue110]

as did my aunt, uncle, and three cousins

[flyeroftheyear4444]

sorry to hear that, man ;(

[MrRobbrocker]

@PillowTalkP omg really im sorry this was a tragic thing must have been vary scary for the passengers

[HashJanjua]

fuck me sideways :|

[OmegaGraham]

Okay!

[kissklassics]

The moronic FAA resisted smoke detectors in the cargo holds because of costs...until this happened

[TheAllan501]

i fill so sorry for them

[beergut111]

well valujet (AKA AirTran) wasnt exactly a "stellar" operation to begin with....

[larrya444]

At least the fire was put out.

[GeetarAdam]

I bet you're single.

[medopeace]

HAHA!

[candgran]

after that shit im never gone on a plane again i am scared of hieghts go on call me a puff id rather u call me that than die on a plane

[sweeteedon]

I envision that that is my way out.

I am afraid of  water and planes.

[popsticky09]

It's like paying $700 or whatever the fare is to go and die in a plane crash with your family............

[wowgank22]

=(....

[greektoon]

Those poor people. A horrible way to go.

[sideslide23]

After Value jet became airtran, they replace all the DC9 32 with munch of MD80 and MD90 while bunch of DC9 being taken to junk yard in Kingman arizona

[ResidentGerm]

I'm flying on them next month!,cheapest airline I could find.

[AnthraxBird]

Your flying next week, yet your looking up aircraft accidents on youtube. You are one smart human being!

[ResidentGerm]

Ain't that some shit?,lol!

[morgandrim]

Are you still part of the minority, ResidentGerm ( ie the living ) ? I guess your flight went OK.

[ResidentGerm]

yep Im ok!,lol!

[morgandrim]

Good man !

I myself am terrified of flying. And each time I fly, it gets worse. Last time I flew was just a short flight to Alicante, Spain. The morning of my flight I sat at home and cried my eyes out.

Call me chicken - I just hate it !

[fightingtemeraire]

You should remember the statistics. You are considerably safer in a commercial aircraft than you are on a road.

[zeroplague]

I got home from a flight yesterday and I could of swore we were about to do a flip coming through a storm in Orlando....I feel your pain.

[morgandrim]

Hi zeroplague.You must have been scared whitless. Flying scares the hell out of me - even when nothing remarkable happens.

[joachim2464]

remember that airplanes is one of the safest ways of travel. It is alot safer than driving in a car:)

[ResidentGerm]

They are still around,they're known now as AirTran

[fourwindsoh]

Was Cornjulio from Lake TItitcaca lighting his farts?

[Harry0288]

$500,000 cant pay for lifes. The top management in SabreTech should place Death Penalty!!!

[fourwindsoh]

Life is priceless but what will fix the problem for future flights. Procedures have to be implemented with redundancy and oversight.

[JMG717]

Some of the comments on here make me sick. Valujet never intended on this to happen. Some of you act like people woke up and said "I think I will cause a plane crash." What happened here was a FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE. One party did not know what the other was doing, and with that happening, a tragedy occurred. This has since been fixed. Let the past be put to rest in peace

[MNSLSims]

Saw this on the other day. Stupid cargo packers.

[HauntKettle]

Haha legend

[gonnabecrna]

Mauro Valenzuela a mechanic for SabreTech certified that all cabin oxygen generators were properly removed/replaced. Valenzuela caused these generators to be delivered and loaded on VALUJET flight 592 without proper markings, capping, packaging and other safety measures.He fled the country soon after his arraignment. Whereabouts unknown.

If sighted, contact the Criminal Investigation Division office in Miami, Florida 1-305-536-6700

[Twinhit]

"And the two company employees who did go on trial here with SabreTech, Daniel Gonzalez, chief of hangar operations, and Eugene Florence, a mechanic, were acquitted on charges that they lied on repair records."

By RICK BRAGG

Published: December 7, 1999

NYT

Valenzuela may well have been aquitted like his coworkers had he not fled.

[drumr4life]

All because some loser can't pack sensative cargo . . . what a loser!!!!

[robert21256]

The gators feasted for weeks.

[Title27GT]

lmao

[drumr4life]

My Brother and his 2 month year old baby girl were on this plane you peice of human garbage!!!

[robert21256]

Are you a Gators fan?

[drumr4life]

Ill bet you are an over-weight pimple poppen peice of human waste who has yet to be blessed by someone (by the opposite sex mind you) to love and appreciare you. And no I am not a gators fan actually by trade I am an ophthalmologist. Get a life my friend.

[thetreeregimovies]

well, If i wa son that flight i probably would've survived. i have fireproof clothing and know how to protct myself from crashing into water, considering i've done that b4.

[TheOne1215]

lets try that at 300 mph in a nose dive

[dopey203]

haha....oh so true.

[coolmccool25]

the girl makign this video says that shes going to be a pilot since shes a student pilot...

uhm..i got a question..

doesnt it bother u to watch htis?

[SkyFox98]

Jetblue is way better than valujet!

[8270361507]

Next time people should tell the pilots, what's put in the cargo besides luggage, like those oxygen generators, so the pilots would be aware of it and would do something about it to avoid a disaster.

[maxangleofdangle]

HAZMAT transport is a chain of custody thing. The entity shipping has to identify what they are shipping to the airline carrying it so they can treat it accordingly. This didn't happen. ValuJet/Airtran is a fine company. No company intends to operate carelessly and risk lives and reputation. All the airlines tightened their procedures after this one.

[2624144]

is there still a valujet?

[tradingpilot]

ValuJet is now Airtran Airlines

[casperblackcat1975]

Well I certainly won't be flying Airtran Airlines.

[CallMeSarge504]

bet the fishes in the everglades didnt see that coming. :) a monument is about 8 miles south of the crash.

[projet941]

It's good such a negligent airline does not exist anymore (its successor MaxJet is now bankrupt)

[Pressbutan]

MaxJet and ValuJet weren't the same company, ValuJet and AirTran are the same company.

Good work.

[projet941]

oups yes indeed...

[Bjornry]

Valujet , nice dc9 crash,but it is sad

[choidj]

If you are going to travel low budget on an airline, you are better off just driving.

[choidj]

If you are going to travel low budget on an airline, you are better off just driving.

[DisasterDude453]

What a terrible disaster. This is horrific.

By the way, what National Geographic show is this?

[jacraf]

Seconds From Disaster. I think they've stopped making new episodes for it now. The show's sorta been split up. Air Crash Investigation (or Mayday) handles the air crashes now.

[Anonymity0]

holy shit. it was like a bomb when that thing crashed

[appleonatree]

this is realy sad =(

i am gettin sooo scared of traveling on planes its unbelivable!! ahhhh!!

[MALattin]

I vaguely remember this occurence or maybe just an occurence like it. When did this take place?

[witzbold20078]

May 11 1996