Tony Parsons The Open Secret Pt1

[MrDrDurp]

BTW..

Fortunate is anyone who gives this guy half a chance in..umm..person(goddammit)

[MrDrDurp]

"There's nothing You can do"

"There is no You!"

"There's nothing You can do"

"There is no You!

"There's nothing You can do"

"There is no You!"

Clarity doesn't contradict itself. Half of what Parsons says is absolute bullshit. The other half is exactly what you need to hear. Whereas other teachers will zen-trick the mind to focus on the sense of I with various methods, Parsons is an absolute relentless sledge hammer on your sense of "I".

"THIS has nothing to do with You"

umm..

"There is no You"

[stokey72]

no body has watched this video

[rtg786]

So ya i wake up in this monopoly game and then i realize that the game was fun at first but I was bored of it... it had infinite outcomes in its own division but non the less still boring...ok ok im really just babbling about my real life and the program i was born into. really you know what im saying.

[axlalmighty333]

There is nothing to seek, uncover what is already there.

[VonHuger1]

So you are now "aware" and no longer "seeking"...now what?

[shaydemoon]

@VonHuger1 Thats a good question, Perhaps just wake up in the morning, brush your teeth, eat take a crap, and so on

[VonHuger1]

@shaydemoon That gets old like the movie "Groundhog Day"...instead, I believe awareness is not static but ever expanding like a Russian matryoshka doll but in reverse....with no end...essentially "we" are growing awareness...

Can you understand this Subhuti?

[shaydemoon]

@VonHuger1 Actually I really agree with you. It just seems that there is a freshness, a newness in all moments, even in mundane things. That is a good point, the point of expanding awareness. I will focus on that one.

[VonHuger1]

@shaydemoon Once awareness "happens", it ceases to be "awareness" & a new "awareness" arises & happens & so on & so forth...because once you got it, its no longer it...:) Even the realization of this is not it...

[evelynwerner12]

gracias.

rupa

[lrmswift]

Is the answer to (what is spiritual truth?) to be found in what someone says - in a book or in an experience? Tony found the answer in an experience or non-experience. We do know he did'nt find it in extenal words or thoughts. A book or teacher can point the way but if we believe in a concept there will always be doubt. We must experience something that is beyond the mind.

[lrmswift]

This mind does'nt understand exactly what Tony means but there is a 'sense' that the seperate person is an illusion. There is a deep (knowing) that I am not seperate, you are not seperate, there is only this 'that' is all - that all is.

[AnandaShishhya]

#6 So, the funny thing is I am not enlightened or living in a non dual place but my experience of reality is so completely close to the non dual people appearing on conscious tv. And yet, I slip into the sense of self and it tells me "it's not working", or "you can't get there", and even gets more subtle and comments on its own commentary, pointing out that even when mind activity is noticed, it is being noticed by mind. Down the rabbit hole! What an amazing process. Peace all.

[AnandaShishhya]

#5 I am becoming increasingly aware that this pressure is tied to an underlying and very persistent, very strong desire of the manifested sense of self to somehow reconnect to something that it has determined has been lost. I am in the process of intensive seeking, day in and day out. I work at it continually. I know that this seeking is not necessary, as Tony and others point out. And yet the seeking persists in response to this buried desire to find what was lost.

[AnandaShishhya]

#4 Though I know all this to be true and I understand with total clarity everything that all of the non dual guests on conscious tv speak of, I am still identified with the sense of self which arose out of the complexity of the mind/body perceptual interface. I do sense a constant sense of pressure exerted into my body from this sense of self. I know this sense of pressure to manifest, to lesser and lesser degrees, as self judgment, depression, anxiety, etc...

[AnandaShishhya]

#3 But in fact, "It" can not be described with words as words exist in the material world, a projection of mind. Being is not a thing, a form, an anything. But it is something we all know as our true nature. As we awake to this, we know ourselves as everything, or rather the ground which underlies everything. So the question is, how do we break our identification with the sense of self which arises out fo the complexity of the human mind/body? This is the funny thing... now getting personal...

[AnandaShishhya]

#2 So the being that I am simply is. And this Being is the canvas which the entire material universe is painted on. So Being underlies, rests in peace, behind and in support of all manifested form. That is why if I awake, I awake as Being. As Being I know my Being not only "in my body" but also "in everything and everyone else". It's not really in anything but it is the Truth underlying "reality". It is timeless and spaceless. It never has been and always has been. It is eternal.

[AnandaShishhya]

#1 The dynamics of what takes place is actually quite simple. Our modern story telling is full of references to machines becoming so smart that they become self aware. This is precisely what happens to Being as it manifests as a human being. The human brain/body is so complex that the machine itself develops self awareness. In otherwords, the machinery used by Being to manifest in the material realm as a human develops a sense of self. Being, all the while, remains present always.

[reycafe]

Hi Tony! Do you celebrate Christmas? How? Thanks...

[andthereisntone]

wonderful stuff. tx.

[swingtrade2]

@Essanach yes. good chatting about this stuff. thanks.

[swingtrade2]

check out karl renz.. 'human is an idea.'

if what exists cannot be conceptualized and conceptualization has no author, what's left?

[Essanach]

@swingtrade2 I'd like to hear your answer. :)

[swingtrade2]

@Essanach because what exists is prior to conceptualization, it cannot be an object. if not object, no coming and going and not subject to time. witnessing but no witness. all nouns are verbs because no causation. what i am is powerless.

'forgive them for they know not what they do.' jesus.

[Essanach]

@swingtrade2 Interesting. My answer to "what's left" would have been "I don't know" and in the end we would likely have been expressing the same thing.

[TadRapidly]

Too bad Tony didn't find A Course In Miracles before other Christian teachings. No requirements there at all!

[Essanach]

@TadRapidly Yes there is. You have to forgive endlessly, do 365 lessons over the course of a year and try constantly to change your perception. However, I will say this, if you understand what the Course is saying - it's bottom line - it totally destroys everything else it says. The problem is, very few people understand the bottom line of the Course, so it ends up for them being a huge task of trying and a lot of intellectual effort.

[TadRapidly]

@Essanach I meant that there are no requirements heaped upon you by unenlightened people involved in dogmatic religious practices when you discover the Course. Other than that, yes, I agree! The requirements are personal and potentially demanding. Love to you!

[Essanach]

@TadRapidly Oh yeah, that's definitely true. At least with the Course it's all up to you with inherently no sense of 'judgement'. I think the Course is an excellent way for people raised as Christians to transition to Nondualism.

[TadRapidly]

@Essanach I was awakened by a Zen Buddhist and THEN found the Course so my path was Non-Dualism to Christian! lol

[Essanach]

@TadRapidly Interesting. I went from Christian to Course to intensely investigating pretty much all Non-dual philosophies to now, nothing. Some of the last things I read or listened to were Jed McKenna's and Tony Parsons books/videos.

[TadRapidly]

@Essanach I hadn't heard of Jed McKenna; I will check him out.

[Essanach]

@TadRapidly His books are very readable, but challenging in a similar way to Tony Parson's stuff - but not in exactly the same way. I can't help seeing teachings progressing from 'impure' to 'pure' non-dualism, and this progression sometimes seems unavoidable because as the Course says, 'Simplicity is very difficult for twisted minds'. So at first we need more complex philosophies and lots of words until we 'unravel' enough to hear something so simple it can't even be said or conceived of...

[Essanach]

@TadRapidly Contd. Jed's books - IMO - follow on from things like the Course as they challenge & destroy a lot of the conceptual 'stuff' that the Course etc contain, which were necessary for slightly more 'twisted minds', at the time, but later are discarded. Tony - IMO - follows on from Jed, offering even less, eroding more. Until it's understood there's nothing to say, nothing to hear, or as Frodo says, we're "naked in the dark. There's nothing. No veil between us & the wheel of fire"

[Essanach]

@TadRapidly PS. There is a six part video series with Jed McKenna quotes on youtube with the very apt title of "Truth at any price", that might be a good start to give you a flavour if your interested.

[quantummom]

Great stuff, I love his style.

[mickeyfinn80]

is that a cannabis plant in the background???

[TheMartras]

@mickeyfinn80 I dont think so:-)

[TadRapidly]

@TheMartras are you a fly-fisherman?

[TheMartras]

@TadRapidly What does it mean?

[1Earth0Karma8]

ONe can argue and say but everything IS Oneness... In essence YES everything is Oneness&Equality but as we are HERE and we are the system, it would be dishonesty to say that. In this world AS IT IS in this current state we are far from Oneness&Equality.

[1Earth0Karma8]

There is no Self to be understood as the Self is only a concept. However, there is this Life Being 'who we are' & from that point one can take Self-Responsibility & STAND up for Equality in this world of delusion. We can make up thousands of excuses as to not take responsibility for what we have created as the system. But to stand up for Oneness & Equality takes Self-Honesty

[1Earth0Karma8]

Tony says alot, he is a good speaker, if, you are lucky what is heard can bring you into a place of "emptiness" or "oneness" that is all FINE. However, there is no Self-Responsibility here, no the Self-Honesty. It is simple to say; there is no 'me' and thus take no responsibility for what we ARE as the System. There is NO Easy way out of this Process Here on Earth.

[nuttymanyelismate]

Hi

Not being condescending here, but you havn't grasped what he is comunicating.

What he is comunicating is there is no self! So who can have responsibilty.

It can be very difficult for the message to sink in, believe me, i have been searching for years! But there is no answer. The search for liberation is useless. its like looking for a pencil when its been in you're hand all the time.

Hey, any questions just reply.

[1Earth0Karma8]

@nuttymanyelismate I will never be able to grasp what he is saying with my mind. But, I do know what it is he is talking about. I am HERE. What Iam IS always HERE. I do not SEEK anything outside of WHAT IS. The Self as the physical as breath can be known but never understood as the nondual Self is HERE.

[nuttymanyelismate]

Ok no problem. It really does not matter wheather you agree or not. You're point is as valid as the rest. All points are part of the one.

[RelaxationMeditation]

okay if all points are part of the one, then listening to and accepting with love what a paedophile or a or a murderer has done is also valid as the rest. babies which r dying of hunger so many things, its all one. You might not realise but this is pure nonsense and unintelligent. It means that u have no proper information of the Absolute Truth & in ur ignorance drag Him down to lower then an animal level, thinking He is enjoying like a pig and worse. In Sanskrit this its called tama guna.

[1Earth0Karma8]

@RelaxationMeditation I agree, especially regards to the sickness of this world, it is 'pure nonsense' and ignorance that is the cause of all this, suffering and madness.

[devarsi]

negative karma arrives via three ways

1 our own body and mind

2 via other humans and entities

3 via natural catastrophes

it is caused by performing activities which cause any type of harm to other humans including the unborn and animals, which includes meat eating, selling meat, buying meat ordering it, cooking and serving & growing the animal.

Visa versa "good" karma ( good birth, parents looks,health & wealth e.g. are the results of pious activities during our many life times.

[1Earth0Karma8]

@devarsi Yes, I see. =)

[devarsi]

good karma also involves taking birth on higher planetary systems ( the heavens) because it gives superior enjoyment to what is available on this planet.

Bad karma may involve being born into the animal worlds again, to experience the harm we have done to animals ourselves. Like you said its all caused by ignorance and an unwillingness to find Truth.

[RelaxationMeditation]

If all is one then get up in the morning and have street dirt for breakfast, its all one, u can imagine that it is milk and cornflakes. People r so gullible, they believe anything, even that they are God enjoying Himself in human or animal forms. In India this is called illusory or Mayavada, believing in illusion. People r suffering for lack of real & genuine spiritual guidance. U say there r no answers? The real answer is In the Bhagavad Gita, free FTP here, user/devarsi

[JimmyV2009]

At one instant, all of the physical reality I was in disappeared totally, except for the buttercup and my awareness of it. We existed timelessly in the golden glow of eternal oneness knowing the truth of each other's origin and the beauty of the moment of now. I realised at once that the flower wasn't emiting the golden light, the golden light was emitting the flower, and then I knew the truth, that I was the light.

[JimmyV2009]

One Sunday afternoon in June of years gone by, I was sat in a medow admiring the the flowers. I was looking down at a buttercup and saw that a soft golden light was eminating from the flower.

[dumbhotguy]

Iain, thanks for interviewing these folks

[gefftom]

what about this onenesss infinite love being a illusion itself everything is a dream pick yours thats what im starting to think

[RelaxationMeditation]

Hi, the dream is, that u think you r the body,the body as self seems real, but it isn't, because it is temporary. The self, the soul is eternal, it has no birth nor death. The spirit soul is not what the folks here propose it to be, meaning to be God itself or one with everything. We r all individual spiritual souls & there r trillions of us, all parts and parcels of God Krishna, we r all His loving servants and have forgotten our original positions. In illusion Maya, we think we r God

[1Earth0Karma8]

@RelaxationMeditation Makes sense what you say that we are all individual 'selves' that there are trillions of us, all parts of the 'One' Wholeness

[Rhea303]

You totally miss Tony's 'point'-- you are coming from TWO-ness and Tony from ONE-ness. Two can never be one and vice versa. There's no wrong here -- just a different 'perception'.

[RelaxationMeditation]

if everything is one, then explain the differences which are obvious. To say everything is one is easy, explain why the oneness is in illusion to think it is two? if its all one then why do two manifest and three and so on? why does oneness act trough so many different forms, all experiencing individual consciousness? How did oneness split into so many and why? The Vedas say we r all individual spiritual sparks, which makes much more sense.

[RelaxationMeditation]

On the material plane this is true, however on the spiritual plane material laws & concepts do not apply any more. The real philosophy is this. "acinta beda beda tattva, inconceivable simultaneous oneness and difference." We r one with The Supreme only in quality, but not in quantity creativity or power. We have individual qualities and so has The Absolute. His personal form is known as Sri Krishna but we r not Him, we r His eternal servants a very high position, the relationship is beautiful.

[iTzSHAKiKi]

I think i'm going to stop watching these videos and find out for myself

[RelaxationMeditation]

Good idea, you could go here and download free Bhagavad Gita PDF user/devarsi

This scripture is Indias main text for spiritual knowledge, it is unsurpassed in wisdom and spiritual revelation. It is advised by all genuine spiritual authorities to begin with this text, in order to gain genuine understanding of the self. Good luck

[beyond1Mind]

i am going for a walk

[beyond1Mind]

if we return to the one, where does the one return~ lol

[AmberFlame1]

They would probably say that "returning to the one, is in fact realisation that you never went away, and there was no one to return."

[beyond1Mind]

this is indeed a fact. the only way anyone who is freshly walking this realization of their true enlightenment is to let go of your illusionary identity. <3

[devarsi]

yes the illusory identity is that we are the body & the mind, the real identity is this "I am a spiritual soul, I am an eternal part and parcel of God, one in quality with God and small in quantity." Maya or illusion means to think that " I am God, I am the enjoyer, I am the controller, I am everything, Iam you and you are me, evrything is one and diversity is illusion" The reality is this "We r inconceivable and simultaneously one with and different from God in the same time"

[devarsi]

So there is God and there are innumerable spiritual souls which all have the same quality like Him similar to the Fire and a spark of fire, or the sunshine and the sun rays."The same quality" in our case means that like God, we are also conscious entities and even in our liberated situation our difference is maintained and eternal.According to the Vedas we all have wonderful & eternally cognizant individual spiritual identities which r now covered by maya illusiory identities our physical bodies

[devarsi]

the difference between the two philosophies is that one does not include the personal aspect of the Absolute and the other one does. I would say that the personal aspect of the Absolute is always higher,because it gives love and affection (bhakti) which can only be experienced & realized in the relationship between the soul and God, whereas the other one is bereft of this love and more self indulgent, wanting to become God, which is not possible anyway & therefore ultimately bound to failure.

[gefftom]

how do u knw with certaintity you are the parcel fo god

[RelaxationMeditation]

at first it was just book knowledge, reading from the Bhagavad Gita (free pdf download on my page) that was in 1974. This was intriguing, then I followed the Gitas instructions and accepted a (genuine as described in the Gita) spiritual master, Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada and followed His example and teachings and slowly step by step the realizations as they r described, manifest by direct experience, in this way you attain it, its there and its real.

[1Earth0Karma8]

@RelaxationMeditation What is real? Spiritual enlightenment? It is a CON. Spiritual masters they have ascended but NOT transcended.

[RelaxationMeditation]

No one can be called a genuine spiritual master if he does not belong to one of 4 disciplic successions in India. These 4 are the Brahma Sampradaya, the Kumara Sampradaya, the Laksmi S. and the Rudra S. Anyone outside these ancient 4 disciplic successions, teaching something else, is understood to have manufactured his own concoctions or accepts someone elses concoctions as you have on your page description, does not represent the light of the Vedic scriptures and his teachings are rejected.

[1Earth0Karma8]

@RelaxationMeditation What I have on my page has nothing to do with Spiritual scriptures & such nonsense

[nuttymanyelismate]

LOl you are so lost, but it is all part of the hilarias fun that oneness is having. It is the one delighting in experiencing through multiplicity.

[1Earth0Karma8]

Stop deceiving yourself with this nondual crap. You want to know how it is in the real 'nothingness' then leave your body access the afterlife and see for yourSelf.

[RelaxationMeditation]

hey brother, when we leave the body we r still in the material atmosphere, the only thing that has changed is that we quit the gross body and now experience the subtle body which is still another covering of the spirit soul. This is how it goes, 1st gross body, then the subtle mind body and beyond subtle is the transcendental spiritual soul, made of pure spiritual substance. This soul functions and acts eternally and can go to any energy in this world which includes nothingness continued...

[1Earth0Karma8]

@RelaxationMeditation That is so cool that we get bored and thus continue to go an learn and experience.

[RelaxationMeditation]

The Supreme has millions of energies, like endless light and seemingly endless darkness or nothingness, endless riches, endless activity and pastimes and if you like nothingness, you can go there, but because u r conscious & alive, you become restless after a long time & want to get away from there, so u have to take birth again. Whatever does NOT reflect our real nature we will reject again ones we have experienced it & get bored with it. In this way we learn & finally arrive at His Lotusfeet

[1Earth0Karma8]

@RelaxationMeditation I like that

[RelaxationMeditation]

if you r the One, how come you did not know this until someone told ya or u read it somewhere? Illusion or forgetfulness more powerful then the One? The One delighting in disgusting behaviour, murder, having injuries as victims of natural catastrophes, mental illnesses and suffering coming from other entities? Whoever told you this nonsense is just leading you on and in your ignorance you can not distinguish fact from fiction. Your teachers have A very offensive ignorant View of The Absolute.

[RelaxationMeditation]

In our sampradaya Bhaktivedanta Narayana maharaja the present Acarya, before Him Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, has come in a line of spiritual masters going back 5000 years to when Lord Krishna Himself spoke the Bhagavad Gita. Disciplic succession or Sampradya in our line means never to change even one word of Krishnas original teachings. As such they have arrived in this age completely intact and following them bears genuine tangible realizations and results.

[1Earth0Karma8]

@RelaxationMeditation Yeah Lord Krishna is going to teach you as The Self how to function as birth of the physical as breath

[nuttymanyelismate]

You're right 1 Earth, it is a con!

No-one will ever achieve enlightenment, its bullshit. Spiritual masters lol, they are contradiction of what they preach.

[1Earth0Karma8]

@RelaxationMeditation What exactly have you attained?

[RelaxationMeditation]

In this life I am fortunate enough, to have received that knowledge which leads beyond oneness, knowledge beyond emptiness,knowledge beyond light or the feeling of eternity. I have also understood how to act so that no karma is created and who I am. I also have realised by direct perception the nature of Brahman and I understand that the Brahman is is the impersonal endless effulgence of God who is personal.

[1Earth0Karma8]

@RelaxationMeditation Nonsense there is no God. This is a false engagement of Reality. The -gurus have messed you up. You are living in an alternate reality.

[nuttymanyelismate]

What is beyond oneness? Only twoness!

I really feel for people who are still searching. the search is preventing you from realising that there is only this. Thus ending the search= peace of mind that all is one and there is nothing that can be done about it.

Just get on with life, and enjoy the miracle that is.

[nuttymanyelismate]

Nothing 1Earth

[1Earth0Karma8]

@nuttymanyelismate To not take responsibility for the Self that we have created here is dishonesty. We are the system that we have created. Tony has found a way for him to be able to speak about what we are as the nondual self but not to apply practical common sense solutions to how we can sort this mess out as who we are and stand up HERE

[gefftom]

yes the way to do that is to stop defending it

[sixtiksix]

It would be great to be in a commune with these two and just talk all day...all day long...no bier, no girls to laugh at us, just talking...about whatever it is they are talking about now....and in between, just silence to reflect about what we were talking about.

[devarsi]

If everything was truly only one and the idea of separation from this oneness is an illusion, then this illusion would be qualitatively higher then the original oneness, because it has managed to take away our so called real and unique identity. According to this, illusion must be more powerful then the truth and also must be separate from oneness to have an effect on what should be all one. The theory that everything is just one, does not stand.

[beyond1Mind]

the fact of everything is concepts=illusions

[devarsi]

The ideal way to express this is not "everything is just one, there is no difference between anything" but "everything is inconceivably and simultaneously one and different in the same time. Within the oneness we experience ourselves as individuals, even if we r negate the mind & body. Our individual consciousness is not just a creation by the mind and body, but belongs to our eternal identity as living and individual spiritual souls.

[flowing2]

The divine power of the oness can hypnotize itself in to believing the illusion of multipicity or the idea of otherness. The divine is playing hide and seek, he is both the seeker and the one bieng sought. The illusion seems qualitatively higher is because that is needed in order to play the game. If you constantly remind yourself that the movie you are watching is not real you wouldnt enjoy it as much.

[devarsi]

A game? what planet are you living on? God enjoying Himself as a baby abused by a paedophile who is also God? Or God as a soldier who just lost a leg and his eyesight in an explosion? So many examples..Why should Krishna who is known to play beautiful topmost pastimes in Goloka Vrindavan His eternal abode, do something so totally beneath Him. Even a "normal human being" would not dream of something like that. What you just wrote is a complete distortion of what is given in the ancient Vedas

[devarsi]

the identity we take on after birth is a false identity based on what we are told by our parents and so on. Because of the body and mind we think we are that and that is an illusion. Still there is that what learns these things and we have to ask what is it? It can not be oneness because we r all arrive here as individuals, with unique characteristics, fingerprints, psychological make-ups e.g, different desires to enjoy and so on.

[AmMellow]

I prefer the way mooji says it cos it's simpler but yeah tis goooowd.

[nicholaspowiull]

Not-knowing doesnt take years of practice

[NonEvernoThing]

Its amazing, today I watched one of the Tony's videos and quickly sketched his image from PC screen on my drawing pad. Suddenly my 3,5 year old daughter came up and asked: "what are you doing dad?", then before I answered anything she looked at my drawing of Tony's head and said: "Are you drawing nothing? Is it nothing's eyes and nothing's mouth?"..:) I was dumbfunded..Children can be so sharp,-Nothingness immediately spotted Nothingness and voiced it out.

[StealtzJJr]

i was in a public libary and a little girl 6ish ran up tomy pc screen and made a scene as tony was on, she was glued?? her mum pulled her away embarrissed

[RelaxationMeditation]

nothing comes from nothing, what your daughter probably saw is that "nothing teachings" are nothing and mean nothing at all.

[1Earth0Karma8]

@RelaxationMeditation Gibberish

[JonasAbrahamLind]

Hah! I'm going to play poker!:)

This is already a lovely interview!

[dianaroo12]

thanks for the share!!

[1nessism]

thank you, 'roo!

[fjanton83]

Thanks for this. Very funny guy, this Tony.

[NoPlaneZen]

Very sweet! Thank you!

Can you get hold of Nathan Gill?

[bdegress]

YES! thank you for bringing Tony to us

[HY34HU]

Thanks so much for this.