Crumb Catcher alcohol stove part 3 how its made

[bonhomechristopher]

first off, what is a crumb catcher? I have made a pretty effective alcohol stove out of coke cans, so I am familiar with the concept. This looks really neat, especially with the pan supporters!!! I want to make your stove but I don't know where to get one of the crumb catchers.

[pseudoweapon]

I haven't been able to find that style of crumb catcher either. 

[hakunamakarla]

I love it!!! will you be willing to sell these?? I need something like this for me and the grand kids to go camping with.

[militaryman69]

I got lost because it seems one picture did not make it into the video :(

[cougarbahia]

love the stove im intrigued. how much would u charge to make me 1 send to me in canada? i'd really like to have one thanks.......karen

[SuperHikerman]

Sweet

[FangZandith]

What is the crumb catcher? I can't find where they are sold or what their real name is =[

[Mutator19]

lol meet jimmy



[gogogodancer]

I knew i was holding onto that lamp heat diffuser for so long for a reason... Huzzah! Thanks!

[AlkoHol62]

thanks for sharing -this really helps me in my stove projects (I've made and tried out the penny stove, cat stove, and beer keg rocket wood stoves). I have seen a simmer cap for a Trangia stove. Do you think a simple piece of tooling foil could be placed on top of the Crumb catcher for simmering (e.e.cooking a large pot of pasta). I am also interested in your idea of being able to add fuel with a tube. I think Tinny of MiniBull designs has a stove that does that. I appreciate everything you do!

[NCHiker1970]

The simmer cap idea might work. Maybe find a way to close off a few of the Crumb Catchers(CC) holes like a cap or band. I am now working on a smaller remote fed model crossed with a Feather Fire Stove making the flame adjustable. I also plan to add Carbon Felt. I still have many ideas for it in the works.When the new stove is done I will do a video. I would like to thank you for your kind words and also state that I am thankful that the video has helped you and inspired you in some way!

[tewindavis]

better, or do you have another suggestion?

Also, I used a different variety of pegboard hanger that makes contact both with the ground around the stove, and the pan and stove itself to lend stability (I'm paranoid about tipping over a cup of burning alcohol...)

Also, do you make use of a windscreen? I think my cooking efficiency would really increase from the use of some tooling foil, but I was wondering if you had any better ideas.

[NCHiker1970]

Yes I make use of a windscreen, second It is made from tooling foil and rippled. As for the stove I have added another three pliers holder for stability. Only issue with that is weight. I am still working on another Idea for the stove. I would like to see your improvement after all that is one reason I do the videos so that I can see what others come up with. Use of a windscreen really makes a difference in efficiency of the stove. I will show off my other ideas in a video after I finish it.

[tewindavis]

I have a few questions about the stove. I built my first one today and I'm very pleased with it, but I would like the benefit of your experience. I also believe that by sheer accident, I have improved upon your design.

My first question is what type of fuel you use specifically. I like to use yellow heet in my campstoves, but I'm afraid that with no wicking structure in the stove, the volatility of the methanol could cause it to burn at a rate far above optimal. would an isopropyl alcohol

[nowhereusa]

hey nice vid. Looks like a great stove nice flame and love the drain insert in there smart idea. Will have to give this one a go i think :)

[ninjalrt]

do you have a part 1 of ths?... thanks :)

[Ant1fly]

Great!!

[iheervoyses]

I reaaly like this stove, but I kept knocking it over. I ended up taking it apart and using 16 oz cans instead. I hope you don't mind. now I don't knock flaming liquid all over the ground.

[50cliber]

wtf is a crumb chatcher i kow it catches crunbs but where did you get it and wat do you use it in/on

[NCHiker1970]

@50cliber I bought it at lowes and it is used in home bar sinks in the drain.

[OwlNeckHarbor]

When you press the two smaller can sections into the bigger section, do you push it in until all 3 edges are aligned?

[NCHiker1970]

@OwlNeckHarbor I push it down to the first section of the two other cans, and then instead of using rivets I aneal the edge and roll the one section of the second of the two cans. If I was doing the rivet style I would push to the first section and then rivet in place. I hope this helps.

[OwlNeckHarbor]

@NCHiker1970 What is the easiest way to anneal a soda can? Do you have any tips or links I should check out? What if I used JB weld?

[NCHiker1970]

@OwlNeckHarbor I learned how to do it by watching a video here on Youtube by a username of Zelph. Perhaps a search for it here on youtube or under z rolling cans

[Jigaboo123456]

@OwlNeckHarbor from school matalwork class nearly 50 years ago-- your soada can is aluminium,, anneal by rubbing with soap, apply ehat and when teh soap turns black, remove from heat, allow to cool in air .It works, I've done it several times since .Most metals the annealing process is take up to aparticualr temp then allow to air cool. (steel heat to cherry red, then air cool)

[LABRADORBLUE]

This stove looks really cool. Best alcohol stove I've seen and great vid. What is the crumb catcher part of this stove and where can I buy one?

[NCHiker1970]

@LABRADORBLUE It is a insert for a bar sink and here I get them at Lowes or Home Depot.

[Jigaboo123456]

@NCHiker1970 Peg board plier holders are an American term I don't quite understand. I am pretty sure I have seen similarly shaped items, bit I can't recall where. what is their everyday function?

Thanks for posting, I want to make a few of these and leave them in a few places I visit, too cheap to worry about, I can take them, leave them and re-use on next visit.

[hfa555]

Paint shops sell gallon cans of 99.9% methyl hydrate as a paint thinner for a lower price per ounce than any other alcohol fuel. It's purer than Heet too.

One thing about these fuels,, they are poison,, keep them off your skin,, wash with soap and water if you spill on your skin, dispense the fuel with a tight sealing squirt bottle like a contact lens cleaner bottle or a liquid hand soap bottle.

[TAC1ONE]

I think this one is my favorite out of the ones I have seen.

[richallenmusic]

very cool stove

[4SCARECROWS]

Did you use denatured alcohol? What other types of alcohol can be used?

[sacredshaman1]

u can use almost any alcohol i use methyl hydrate u can also use lighter fluid

[NCHiker1970]

I have never tried lighter fluid, in this but I have tried it in another stove and ended up with a fire ball that went boom at the end LOL.

[NCHiker1970]

91% rubbing alcohol, Yellow bottle HEET, for this stove I guess 70% Rubbing Alcohol might work as well. 190 proof everclear but that would be expensive!

[bushcraftbartons]

Another great idea...impressive!

Mike

[NCHiker1970]

best part it works great in any season of the year and with almost any size pot.

[631959]

Good video,great design....Thanks NC

[NCHiker1970]

thank you!

[s6675]

whats a crumb catcher?

[NCHiker1970]

It is a sink drain insert for a bar sink, found at any Lowes or home Depot in the plumbing section of the stores or any hardware store. Hope this helped out!

[59Gretsch]

I think I will try this one, I made a Catfood-can one but it seems to consume fuel more than I had hoped.

[TheApalachian]

Great, simple but very efficient.Thank you very much! How about some Isolation Glasswool in the Reservoir? Greetings from Jan

[NCHiker1970]

I have made a CC Stove with the fiberglass inside and it worked great and even gave you a longer burn time, the only issue I had was removing fuel from it after I had been cooking. They break down easy enough so if one wished he/she could carry both and do a comparison. Thanks for the compliment, this idea was spawned by greywulf2112 and myself. Team work produces great things!

[eio95]

good job :-) ps what's the song??

[NCHiker1970]

thanks, and the song.... I don't remember I got it off of youtube after they took my other one off due to copy right issues.

[eio95]

ok..isn't a problem :-)

[mrnetcom1]

Spot-on. Thanks

[NCHiker1970]

No Problem! I wanted to also state your so very right about the question not asked is the stupid one!

[mrnetcom1]

Peg board pliers holder? A term l'm not familiar with?the only ..."question that is stupid is the one that was never asked!"

Thx also for the great quote :)

[NCHiker1970]

4:11 into the video shows the wall in the back and the peg board. you can buy holders that fit into the peg board to hold a wide range of tools I used the ones for the pliers

[nj4x4fever2]

Hey Drak, Have you thought of putting insullation inside to soak up the fuel, it may burn much longer with the insulation.

I made a simmilar stove quite some time ago and used the insulation in it and it seemed to burn longer than without insulation.

[NCHiker1970]

I have both styles with and without the insulation, they both have pros and cons. One burns longer with insulation, but unlike the one without you cannot get all the alcohol out. It depends on the weather as well. One works better then the other in heat or cold.

[stimulater7]

were cans used alluminium?... and the center bit where do you get it ?

[NCHiker1970]

The cans are aluminum tomatoe juice cans 5.5 oz, and the center part is a part I found at Lowes. The center part can also be found at Walmart and Home Depot or Menards. Hope this info has helped you!

[dp665]

i am new to the whole backpacking thing and have just started hearing about alcohol stoves so i hate to ask a stupid question but what kind of alchohol do you use as fuel

[NCHiker1970]

HEET in the yellow bottle or there is denatured alcohol in the paint sectionof walmart or lowes.

[dp665]

thank you very much and also thanks for being nice and showing people how to make these instead of deminstrating them and then saying for 9.95 you can buy one from me like some people on the web do.

[NCHiker1970]

I figure this is worth more to someone if they build it themselves.

[NCHiker1970]

the only question that is stupid is the one that was never asked! Questions are how we learn so ask away, I am sure there are a lot of people here on youtube that will more than happy to help out.

[Thomdrum]

just made this stove. seems to require a crumb catcher of just the right diameter. the one i purchased, although looks identical to yours, must be slightly smaller in diameter. had a hard time making it stay aligned between the two inner "sleeves" that sandwich it into place. i made some adjustments and the stove performs very well. I'll look around some more for a better cc for the job. great stove once again!!

[NCHiker1970]

I ran into this same thing not long ago, I had to make the holes for the two parts that it fit between a little smaller. It worked out great and I found it gave the crumb catcher a more snug fit. How did you go about solving your issue?

[Thomdrum]

Fidged and fudged it around mostly. lol kinda feel stupid cuz I should have just made the holes smaller like you said (tunnel vision) so that is what I will do on the next one. Also, I get this stove in at 1.9 oz which is next to nothing for the performance it delivers!! Does it come in about the same weight for most?

Thanks for your reply,

T

[NCHiker1970]

I have had the weight vary from 1.6-2.1 oz. This little bugger puts out some heat for the size and versatility for pot sizes. I am very proud of this one. Good ideas come from a combined effort. Hope to see yours in action sometime.

[BigWeebz]

what the hell is a crumb catcher?

[NCHiker1970]

it's the part used in this project that fits in the drain of a bar sink.

[BigWeebz]

yeah but i mean...WHAT is it?...why a crumb catcher? not just....some other name? does it catch crumbs or what lol

[NCHiker1970]

The stainless steel part used for the top of the stove is a crumb catcher used in the drain for bar sinks... hence the name.

[BigWeebz]

ahhhhh ok, i thought the name had some relevance to the application of the STOVE ITSELF. Its simply a crumb catcher in its original form...i thought there was something it was needed for and given than name for- besides the structural component of the stove. thanks & nevermind!!

[bluetoad2001]

very good

 buzz

[sandfordmill]

can you uses meths for this

[NCHiker1970]

Yes. That is what it was made to use. Alcohol, meths I have not tried anything else.

[sandfordmill]

thatnks alot i am definatly going to give this project a go

[NCHiker1970]

Great! Hope you show it off when you are finished.

[FlamingTightyWhiteis]

tell jimmy i said HIIIII JIIIMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYY!!!!!!! (yell it out) please and thank you

[NCHiker1970]

I told Jimmy and he waved back!

[mustang774]

that is a nice little stove,

I may try to make one just for fun.

Take care,

Bluefin

[NCHiker1970]

I like it, it works great, cannot tell you how many times it has seen the bottom of a cook pot! If you build one I would love to see it!

[robieski]

genious

[NCHiker1970]

Its just two minds coming together to build a good little stove. Teamwork! Thanks for commenting.

[robieski]

I really digg the spirit of putting an effort in making things for yourself instead of just buying these commercial things. Really nice work!

One question: is it really good enough to cook food on it. I'm planning a 7 days hike and I don't want to take the risk of being without a decent stove to cook a meal.

Thanks

[NCHiker1970]

You would be able to cook over this stove! One thing I do before going on the trail for an over night or extended hike is test everything I am taking, the stove gets tested to see if it can handle what I am going to need it for on the trail. If it does not perform I change out stove and start testing again. Just be sure you are comfortable with the stove you are taking. Get to know it before you go out.

[guitarpatience]

Could any one please explain where exactly I find a crumb catcher and what it is exactly? Whenever I google "C.C" I get little brushes and dust pans. Many thanks!

[NCHiker1970]

It is a sink insert for bar sinks. It a can be found at Lowes or Home Depot in the area where the sink drains and accessories are found.

[guitarpatience]

Awesome! Thanks so much for the speedy reply. I can't wait to test this thing out!

[NCHiker1970]

Hope you enjoy it! I love the ones I have, they work great and the potholders are removable for storage.

[conradstesttable]

Drak this is a great DIY video. Step by Step. I used the first one you built last night to cook up some rice! Great stove.

[NCHiker1970]

Im glad you like it!

[hiramcook]

Don't ya just love them WMG clowns?

[NCHiker1970]

This is starting to perturb me! Its free on the radio, but not on here! How interesting!

[hogshead50]

The wheels in my head are turning,thanks for some more stove ideas.

[NCHiker1970]

thats why I do this! LOL I want to see others build, redesign and make it better. I love the idea of throwing a thought out there and seeing it grow. This stove was a team effort.

[locorogue]

Man, the more i check out your vids, the more i like, and the DEFTONES no less.

[NCHiker1970]

Thanks, I am glad you are enjoying the vids and the music!

[Fishingandhikingfool]

Great Song! This is one of the most in depth videos for making something that I think I have watched on youtube. Cool stove dude.

[NCHiker1970]

Thank you for the compliment.

[aokspage]

nice video.  Good instruction.

[WorldStove]

YAY for stover colabs! (good tune too)

[NCHiker1970]

I should point out one thing about the stove. For the Heiny pot I have found it is better to raise the potstand up to the top of the crumb catcher, this helps with airflow and also directs the flame to the center of the pot. Sorry I forgot to mention this in the video.

[wildlifeed]

Never a disappointment!! Wow, well done Drak!! That sir is one amazing stove. thanks for sharing it!!

[NCHiker1970]

Well with the help and input from Greywulf2112 this is what we came up with.

[Greywulf2112]

Excellent How To video. I had a general idea of how this was done from the letter you sent me, but I didn't realize the lip was at the top of the stove. This made for a great visual aid.

[TerraFirma369]

Thanks for the how-to, my friend! Excellent ideas put into this one. I will have to build one of these soon. The one question I have is where exactly did you but that particular crumb catcher. Seems very small compared to what I have in my sink. I will have to look around. Anyway, great job! Peace.

[Greywulf2112]

The crumb catchers are used for bar sinnks. You should be able to get them at Lowe's

[TerraFirma369]

Sweet. Thanks for the materials hook-up. I will be making a version very soon. My wife's b-day is tomorrow, so after then I will get on it. Video always makes things seem bigger, but with the types of cans you are using, that is an even better stove than I initially thought! Peace.

[Greywulf2112]

There's actually two versions of the crumb catcher. One has a peg in the middle and one doesn't. I had the one with the peg, but it was really easy to remove by just wiggling it.

[NCHiker1970]

Yup got it at Lowe's $1.35 I think.

[nj4x4fever2]

All I can Really Say Is Wow! This is quite impressive. You get two thumbs up on this one and also 5 star rating. I really like your craftsmanship Great Job Drak!!!

[MrBillTroop73]

Great job on the "how to"

I appreciate how thourough you are.

Bill

[NCHiker1970]

Thanks Bill -- do we get a merit badge on this one? I tried to make sure everyone could create this at home.

[MrBillTroop73]

Would be nice if there was a merit badge for that. They just turned down the "duct tape" merit badge too!

LOL

[NCHiker1970]

Now that just ain't fair! Oh well the reward in all of this is in seeing our creations come to life when we first light them up! Dang I sound like Doc Frankenstein! IT'S ALIVE! IT'S ALIVE!