I just got done watching apocalypse now for the first time and I thought it had good parts, but the ending was like a confused mess. The big revelation is that the colonel is crazy because hes seen horror, and we wont win vietnam because they are stronger. All those long drawn out scenes for that ending? What a let down!
No, he realized that what the Vietnamese did to the inoculated children affected him in such a way that he saw the genius in what they did, thus that Americans would not kill without fear and judgment.
@BeyondLame The movie is based loosely on the Novela Heart of Darkness. Mr. Kurtz's (curious how he has the same surname as colonel kurtz) last words are "the horror, the horror" many have speculated on what he is referring to, whether its the horrors he has seen in the jungle or if it more an inner view of what he has become and what he has done. Others say he sees that all along his fate was to become evil and that is the horror of human nature. Im a literature major and a stoner.
@samooskhka I could say the same thing to you, samooskhka, You didn't like my comment, big fucking deal. Just keep it to yourself! Who the fuck cares?
Absolutely stunning footage - and not a single frame of it is CGI. Real sets, real demolitions. It was the perfect and perfectly logical ending when we saw the film in 1979. The director was just plain wrong to remove it. Credits on a black background do not work.
my heros. where are they? these people didnt bring wisdom. just awarness then death from their own hands. what did they do? they left!!! fuck jim. fuck janice. fuck jimmy. im still here!!!!!!! where did they go? help!!!!!!!!? Itx\s easy to bitch about the world we live in... then leave....FUCK YOU! WE ARE STILL HERE!! hero worship is a joke!
about five years ago I started having dreams that the Sun became burning yellow engulfing the whole sky and then everything around become burning red,in the dream I thought the sun exploded..but then I realized that it was a sun flare that was heading straight for earth..maybe it meant wars instead..I don't know what would be better?? but I still get the dreams every six months or more.
@MrPaa99 Sorry I don't smoke cigs nor weed nor drink nor ever have done drugs and have been divorced and stay celibate till the right time and am an agnostic so has nothing to do with religion.. so you are barking up the wrong tree here..now go find somebody else..because truth is I also haven't got the time to give you the attention you seek!!!!!
@PatroLJumpeR żałosne, poza przekleństwami nie masz nic innego do powiedzenia, i chyba ci się dzieciaku pojęcia pomyliły. co najwyżej ty możesz starać dorównać się do mojego poziomu. ja mam bogatsze słownictwo niż ty:)
I think this song is excellent for representing the madness of war, any war, I was in Cambodia and Laos right after Nam (that's right folks, we were there, just not on the evening news. I found this link to be a good one for the horrors of the US Imperialist/Capitalistic driven war machine too. No illusion in this one, I was there!
Talking about which war tactics we should have used in Vietnam while listening to the Doors play the End is such a ridiculous contradiction. We should never have been in Vietnam, and today we should stop all of the pointless, barbaric, endless violence... there are your fucking "tactics." Go play call of Duty
@likespinningplanets This song doesn't protest the violence and insanity of Vietnam and neither does the film Apocalypse Now. Most people associate this song with Apocalypse Now and therefore the Vietnam War. Furthermore it seems perfectly logical to discuss the Vietnam War under a movie about the Vietnam War.
@TheWizardTrembyle I don't believe you or anyone for that matter can fully KNOW what the film or the song means unless your name is Francis Ford Coppola or Jim Morrison. Furthermore comment posters should understand that artwork is meant to be interpreted in different ways. To you it may seem that the film doesnt protest the war but too others it does and everyone should be open minded to others interpretations. Conclusively in my opinion those who are not open are not worthy to view such art.
@brammerproductions I could care less who you think is "not worthy" of viewing a Youtube video. Your comment only gives the impression that you are as "close minded" as the rest of us.
@brammerproductions Alright I admit it, I'm a black and white kinda guy. I say there is nothing about this movie or this song that protests the Vietnam War. If you thought you could prove me wrong you probably would have done so already. It seems your only interested in calling me "closed minded"; that coming from some random internet guy doesn't bother me very much. Later.
I saw this movie in 1979 when I was 19 it’s about a special ops guy that was addicted to killing and the thrill of it; that is until he ran into a real killer. The real killer like Satan found that he could justify his killing and live but was trapped by it. The director shows how our logical step by step thinking leads us down a path of destruction.
When we went to enduring freedom in 2003 they had busses that took people to the bomb dump so they could sign the bombs that where to be dropped
@davegt27 I understand your post here Dave however I'd have to say it's a helluva stretch to say that either the song or the movie in question was against the Vietnam War as brammerproductions and likespinningplanets believe.
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Just watched every Doors/Apocalypse Now video on YouTube to choose one to which to link. This is the best.
But I wish someone would use both Apocalypse footage and other avaialble video to do the entire song, for which Apocalypse Now, as a film is a good, but only partial illustration.
@rag5206 yep, & nor can you win a war with an enemy that's willing to give every single possible thing up versus the US soldiers at the time, who didn't have much reason to give everything up. It wouldn't have mattered if we had twice as many troops and technology from today, it woudl've still ended the same.
"nor can you win a war with an enemy that's willing to give every single possible thing up"
Yes, you can but not by conventional means. You're right in the sense that simply killing them is not enough. They have to converted into society; their violence must be translated into politics. That's what happened in Iraq.
However, the general staff and DoD civilian leadership was trying to fight an insurgency using WW2 tactics, leading to an inevitable defeat.
Not WWII tactics - more like Vietnam tactics. In WWII if you were caught assisting the enemy you were considered the enemy and dealt with accordningly.
@RavingDissension You have a point after 1968. The NVA still existed but went the guerilla route. My biggest beef is the rules of engagement the US soldier, sailor, marine and airman is under. THAT is what made us loose vietnam. Politicians running wars never works.
Rules of engagement were obscene; few deny that. However, the bigger problem was an incoherent COIN strategy. If you asked a field colonel what exactly was the strategy in specifics, he would not be able to answer the questions because there was no answer!
They could have won using ww2 tactics ..but the full force that would have been needed wouldn't be "accepted"(the public would have been all over it and the hippies would have went even crazier in the states leading to more Kent state style fuck ups and the country just might have torn itself to pieces) since the war was a much more controversial modern style war then ww2 certain "rules" were in play and when politicians run the war the fighting men suffer
No, they couldn't. WW2 was a mobile, continental war with constantly changing frontlines. Vietnam was a domestic insurgency and invading externalities. Completely different situation. Vastly different terrain and geography. Stark contrasts in the enemy combatants themselves. But more importantly, a clear difference in the tactics used by the enemy.
Vietnam needed a General Petraeus, not the obsolete Westmoreland.
Excellent song, a point of history the Vietnam War was NEVER meant to be won it was meant to be sustained for the weapons manufactures profits. You can't win a war with unrealistic rules of engagement.
what the fuck do these lyrics mean
russo3j 2 hours ago
the horror....
BeyondLame 2 weeks ago
Jim Morrisson TIME
huhnoname 3 weeks ago
Amazing how the songs from the 60's are so appropriate now....Peace all...
OlGreyWolf58 4 weeks ago
awsome theme
ohyeahitypedthat2222 4 weeks ago
the west is the best...pretty political
laird8879 1 month ago
love
OccupyTheApocolypse 2 months ago
I just got done watching apocalypse now for the first time and I thought it had good parts, but the ending was like a confused mess. The big revelation is that the colonel is crazy because hes seen horror, and we wont win vietnam because they are stronger. All those long drawn out scenes for that ending? What a let down!
ephidapoon 2 months ago
@ephidapoon
No, he realized that what the Vietnamese did to the inoculated children affected him in such a way that he saw the genius in what they did, thus that Americans would not kill without fear and judgment.
BeyondLame 1 month ago
@BeyondLame Ok, but still a total let down
ephidapoon 1 month ago
@BeyondLame The movie is based loosely on the Novela Heart of Darkness. Mr. Kurtz's (curious how he has the same surname as colonel kurtz) last words are "the horror, the horror" many have speculated on what he is referring to, whether its the horrors he has seen in the jungle or if it more an inner view of what he has become and what he has done. Others say he sees that all along his fate was to become evil and that is the horror of human nature. Im a literature major and a stoner.
Dirt8977 1 month ago 2
@ephidapoon So fucking what? You didn't like the film, big fucking deal. Just keep it to yourself! Who the fuck cares
samooskhka 1 month ago
@samooskhka I could say the same thing to you, samooskhka, You didn't like my comment, big fucking deal. Just keep it to yourself! Who the fuck cares?
ephidapoon 1 month ago
"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Pumablues2525 4 weeks ago
Absolutely stunning footage - and not a single frame of it is CGI. Real sets, real demolitions. It was the perfect and perfectly logical ending when we saw the film in 1979. The director was just plain wrong to remove it. Credits on a black background do not work.
OroborusFMA 2 months ago
my heros. where are they? these people didnt bring wisdom. just awarness then death from their own hands. what did they do? they left!!! fuck jim. fuck janice. fuck jimmy. im still here!!!!!!! where did they go? help!!!!!!!!? Itx\s easy to bitch about the world we live in... then leave....FUCK YOU! WE ARE STILL HERE!! hero worship is a joke!
ydnarnosfatsug 3 months ago
war...war never changes
deathrol3 3 months ago
Wow....So good.....disturbing
bluesman341 4 months ago
Wie pervers und brutal und menschenverachtend ks
ann
Wie pervers, brutal und menschenverachtent kann man eigentlich sein ?
Dies ist nichts gegen den Film, eher im Gegenteil
Paulchen5001 4 months ago
"All the children all insane" think about it
Gotheever 4 months ago
Epic Film Epic Song
doomhammer1976 5 months ago
There's danger on the edge of town.
elevenbravoonepapa 6 months ago
about five years ago I started having dreams that the Sun became burning yellow engulfing the whole sky and then everything around become burning red,in the dream I thought the sun exploded..but then I realized that it was a sun flare that was heading straight for earth..maybe it meant wars instead..I don't know what would be better?? but I still get the dreams every six months or more.
madreemee 6 months ago
@madreemee stop using LSD!
MrPaa99 3 months ago
@MrPaa99 Sorry I don't smoke cigs nor weed nor drink nor ever have done drugs and have been divorced and stay celibate till the right time and am an agnostic so has nothing to do with religion.. so you are barking up the wrong tree here..now go find somebody else..because truth is I also haven't got the time to give you the attention you seek!!!!!
madreemee 3 months ago
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JezusSlave 7 months ago
@JezusSlave just stop please
jizmacdacusha 4 months ago
@JezusSlave Epic CAPS LOCK fail.
GabeUSAF 3 months ago
I wonder what would Jim Morrison think about this movie.
drotmedeny 8 months ago 2
piepszycie jest juz 7:50 i nic apokalipsa bedzie napewno wtedy juz nie bedziemy zyc[*]
PatroLJumpeR 9 months ago
@PatroLJumpeR po pierwsze to naucz się pisać... "pieprzcie się" jak już.
paulinkaand 9 months ago
@paulinkaand Pierdol się pasuje?
PatroLJumpeR 9 months ago
@PatroLJumpeR wow, ależ masz wyszukane słownictwo! na coś jeszcze cię stać?! :)
paulinkaand 9 months ago
@paulinkaand ta dużo tylko sie nie zniże do twojego poziomu mam WYJEBANE NA CB
PatroLJumpeR 9 months ago
@PatroLJumpeR żałosne, poza przekleństwami nie masz nic innego do powiedzenia, i chyba ci się dzieciaku pojęcia pomyliły. co najwyżej ty możesz starać dorównać się do mojego poziomu. ja mam bogatsze słownictwo niż ty:)
paulinkaand 9 months ago
@paulinkaand wielce księżniczka od j.polskiego się znalazła
PatroLJumpeR 9 months ago
I'm playing this tomorrow
Chieftawsmcool 9 months ago
The horror! The horror!
bartov 9 months ago
this song is not about war.
Chansulus 10 months ago
I think this song is excellent for representing the madness of war, any war, I was in Cambodia and Laos right after Nam (that's right folks, we were there, just not on the evening news. I found this link to be a good one for the horrors of the US Imperialist/Capitalistic driven war machine too. No illusion in this one, I was there!
OhioEasy 10 months ago 3
this is the best film follow appoclipse now ist veyy veryyy film doors its veryyyyyyyyymorrison the bests
limite781 10 months ago
Talking about which war tactics we should have used in Vietnam while listening to the Doors play the End is such a ridiculous contradiction. We should never have been in Vietnam, and today we should stop all of the pointless, barbaric, endless violence... there are your fucking "tactics." Go play call of Duty
likespinningplanets 10 months ago
@likespinningplanets This song doesn't protest the violence and insanity of Vietnam and neither does the film Apocalypse Now. Most people associate this song with Apocalypse Now and therefore the Vietnam War. Furthermore it seems perfectly logical to discuss the Vietnam War under a movie about the Vietnam War.
TheWizardTrembyle 10 months ago
@TheWizardTrembyle I don't believe you or anyone for that matter can fully KNOW what the film or the song means unless your name is Francis Ford Coppola or Jim Morrison. Furthermore comment posters should understand that artwork is meant to be interpreted in different ways. To you it may seem that the film doesnt protest the war but too others it does and everyone should be open minded to others interpretations. Conclusively in my opinion those who are not open are not worthy to view such art.
brammerproductions 9 months ago
@brammerproductions I could care less who you think is "not worthy" of viewing a Youtube video. Your comment only gives the impression that you are as "close minded" as the rest of us.
TheWizardTrembyle 9 months ago
@TheWizardTrembyle Well, I think you just proved my point for me with that reply. Thanks!
brammerproductions 9 months ago
@brammerproductions Alright I admit it, I'm a black and white kinda guy. I say there is nothing about this movie or this song that protests the Vietnam War. If you thought you could prove me wrong you probably would have done so already. It seems your only interested in calling me "closed minded"; that coming from some random internet guy doesn't bother me very much. Later.
TheWizardTrembyle 9 months ago
I saw this movie in 1979 when I was 19 it’s about a special ops guy that was addicted to killing and the thrill of it; that is until he ran into a real killer. The real killer like Satan found that he could justify his killing and live but was trapped by it. The director shows how our logical step by step thinking leads us down a path of destruction.
When we went to enduring freedom in 2003 they had busses that took people to the bomb dump so they could sign the bombs that where to be dropped
davegt27 9 months ago
@davegt27 I understand your post here Dave however I'd have to say it's a helluva stretch to say that either the song or the movie in question was against the Vietnam War as brammerproductions and likespinningplanets believe.
TheWizardTrembyle 9 months ago
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davegt27 9 months ago
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That0neHippie 11 months ago
Just watched every Doors/Apocalypse Now video on YouTube to choose one to which to link. This is the best.
But I wish someone would use both Apocalypse footage and other avaialble video to do the entire song, for which Apocalypse Now, as a film is a good, but only partial illustration.
TheReaganWing 11 months ago
being in the "nam" 67-68 i loved napslm. burn them all
slapjax28 11 months ago
@slapjax28 thats sick man. I feel sorry for you
likespinningplanets 10 months ago
seems we all agree that we liked the video, tactics or not.
rickpark1 1 year ago
This song makes me high...
giterdone246 1 year ago
So Sorry Browns Fan....The end
Grantrus71 1 year ago
@rag5206 yep, & nor can you win a war with an enemy that's willing to give every single possible thing up versus the US soldiers at the time, who didn't have much reason to give everything up. It wouldn't have mattered if we had twice as many troops and technology from today, it woudl've still ended the same.
Salalol 1 year ago
@Salalol
"nor can you win a war with an enemy that's willing to give every single possible thing up"
Yes, you can but not by conventional means. You're right in the sense that simply killing them is not enough. They have to converted into society; their violence must be translated into politics. That's what happened in Iraq.
However, the general staff and DoD civilian leadership was trying to fight an insurgency using WW2 tactics, leading to an inevitable defeat.
RavingDissension 1 year ago 3
@RavingDissension
Not WWII tactics - more like Vietnam tactics. In WWII if you were caught assisting the enemy you were considered the enemy and dealt with accordningly.
agentspinnaker 1 year ago
@agentspinnaker
"In WWII if you were caught assisting the enemy you were considered the enemy and dealt with accordningly."
True, every war is unique and cannot be grouped with another, however similar attributes they might possess.
However, on your particular point, in WW2, the enemy was clearly distinguishable on the map and in the field. The same cannot be said of Vietnam.
RavingDissension 1 year ago
@RavingDissension You have a point after 1968. The NVA still existed but went the guerilla route. My biggest beef is the rules of engagement the US soldier, sailor, marine and airman is under. THAT is what made us loose vietnam. Politicians running wars never works.
agentspinnaker 1 year ago
@agentspinnaker
Rules of engagement were obscene; few deny that. However, the bigger problem was an incoherent COIN strategy. If you asked a field colonel what exactly was the strategy in specifics, he would not be able to answer the questions because there was no answer!
RavingDissension 1 year ago
@RavingDissension
They could have won using ww2 tactics ..but the full force that would have been needed wouldn't be "accepted"(the public would have been all over it and the hippies would have went even crazier in the states leading to more Kent state style fuck ups and the country just might have torn itself to pieces) since the war was a much more controversial modern style war then ww2 certain "rules" were in play and when politicians run the war the fighting men suffer
Rustyshacklefization 1 year ago
@Rustyshacklefization
"They could have won using ww2 tactics"
No, they couldn't. WW2 was a mobile, continental war with constantly changing frontlines. Vietnam was a domestic insurgency and invading externalities. Completely different situation. Vastly different terrain and geography. Stark contrasts in the enemy combatants themselves. But more importantly, a clear difference in the tactics used by the enemy.
Vietnam needed a General Petraeus, not the obsolete Westmoreland.
RavingDissension 1 year ago
this will be played at my funeral
DragonovSVD 1 year ago 3
Excellent song, a point of history the Vietnam War was NEVER meant to be won it was meant to be sustained for the weapons manufactures profits. You can't win a war with unrealistic rules of engagement.
rag5206 1 year ago
great vid, i'm surprised by so few vews haha
jerban100 1 year ago 21
This is an edit of the Redux Ending Theme and The End by The Doors, experience it for yourself.
ModeSafety 1 year ago 11