Talk - James Bamford - Confronting the Surveillance Society

[Downfurlife]

The Supreme Court of Indiana just stripped 4th amendment rights from every citizen living in the state - Around 5/12/2011 I believe.... Google it.

[meushubris]

The Puzzle Palace is a wonderful and scary read. Great book and highly recommended. 

[MrDuffy81]

Watch my video about a personal experience I had with government survailance, entitled: "ROBOTIC INSECT DRONE"

I swear of the Love of God that it is 100% true...

[iziahlights]

I have all this pent up anger that is within me, i hate the fact that we are constantly watched and have no privacy what angers me even more is the fact that it has become accepted by every man and his dog.

I love the internet if only for the fact i can read comments by people who actually CARE!

[killoffkili]

@iziahlights it makes me sick too , im from london these racist cameras constantly perving it will eventually lead to a ROBOT SOCIETY , i just hope enough people read this and gain knowledge

[iziahlights]

@killoffkili Im from Birmingham and i know we do not have it as bad as you but it is still pretty concerning, it just makes you wonder where we are heading my friend.

Im thinking of moving abroad maybe Sweden i have had it with this country, we are drowning in the state here.

[killoffkili]

think about it daggenham[an area in east london] has more cameras then the whole of new york city.We live on a small island and 80% of the worlds cctv is here does that not scare u soon their gonna be putting cameras in our own homes they treat us like sum experiment and its time the people of the uk realise whats going on around them

[echelonexcursions]

you have plenty of privacy. just make them pay for every morsel. when you are not using your phone take out the battery. use a different pc when accessing sensitive info. never give out personal info. get rid of all points/reward cards. pay in cash. communicate in person, like the olden days!! learn countersurveillance skills. take lots of photos of the things that are intruding on your privacy and share with like minded people.

[echelonexcursions]

get rid of your points cards. credit cards. pay in cash. dont use your pc to access sensitive info. ditch your cell or use it infrequently. know the location of cctv cams and avoid them! learn the fine art of counter surveillance. good luck!

[PhillipBoldt91119]

If this is turned around and used to track government politicians and their families it would be shut off tomorrow this could be how we police them.

[MrDuffy81]

@PhillipBoldt91119 We need laws which put representitives in prison for misrepresentation. There needs to be CONSEQUENCES for such lofty positions...

[PhillipBoldt91119]

Freedom of the press, the Internet lost under to much security. File share is under attack. The politicians think they are kings instead of are servants. How do we stop bills from being attached to other bills so problem can self correct.

[sadeyedsadie]

Great site! NSA= No Such Agency

We have no privacy. The technology that we are currently aware of was utilized in WWII.

[KingCro2]

Its amazing how many views this video got. Compared to the video of a cat hitting its head having 2 million! this shows you how much people care about themselves and there fellow man.

[x3dmedia]

The New World Order is moving very fast....Wake your fellow humans, we've been asleep for too long

[XionXXXX]

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!

[Yoetah]

The Puzzle Palace is a must for a busybody-great book.

Intercepts of communique ranged from lunch orders to conversation between corporate CEO's (imagine the temptation-insider trading). And secret satellites!!! My goodness. It's 50 yrs later now and a low orbiting satellite "sees" a man peein' from his porch .

This brings up ?? on how NORAD failed on 911.

And this is why Obama can never disclose what the "OLD" advanced tech is much less the new stuff!

Lucy would have some 'splainin to do!

[theFoxthatTalks]

No more horrible surveillance. IT IS INVASIVE AND A SICK VIOLATION TO PRIVACY AND OUR RIGHTS!

Privacy is a need and a good thing to have. Why should a stranger be spying on me? Is it a need?

[libbie7777]

I really dont agree much with the aclu.  but on this. I agree 100 percent

[theFoxthatTalks]

We don't want this spying, uncontrollably vile, HORRIFICALLY vulgar and horribly grose thing.

PRIVACY is a thing we need. We do not want to be spied on and tracked. We are independant and have ideas on how to go about in our lives.

GO AND SEARCH PETITIONS AGAINST IT - RIGHT THIS MOMENT

[NPRCVI]

"Other protections will need to include the oversight by regulatory bodies, the development of technology-specific "immune" responses, and computer assisted surveillance by law-enforcement organizations. Many people are not aware that our intelligence agencies already use advanced technologies such as automated keyward spotting to monitor a substantial flow of telephone, cable, satellite, and Internet conversations." Ray Kurzweil in his book The Singularity is Near ISBN 0-14-303788-9

[ScottFreeRJH]

Occasionally I give the finger to the sky for any spy satelites watching. Started doing that after I saw 'Enemy Of The State'.

[Gunnar125]

Yeah I saw that movie many years ago. It really made me think. And now Im working against it fulltime. Although, I can see the bright side with a surveillance society. Its actually very tempting to swtich sides. There are so many sick people out there. And I'd really like to know who they are. The world would be so much more safe.

[Ariomaniac]

I also like to give the finger to any device that could conceal a camera such as a smoke detector. In addition, I enjoy typing in obscenities in internet search engines.

[SirBubbaGumb0]

Yeah, like 'george w. bush'!

[tucanchew32]

I bet you don't need a real ID to board a train for the forced labor camp!!

[AnnaHeidiBourne]

Our privacy is gone, all the way. Deal with it because it can't be stopped.

[stuartthegrant]

You are fortunate, in London UK. under the"Home Office" there are camera,s and no regulationat all.(All Privitised"

[bobbygnosis]

4:37 this is what Ingsoc did in the novel 1984; they would revise history to suit what they wanted people to know. Note that we put up with this bullshit on a daily basis. We say it sucks and what do we do? I put myself in that category too. I don't know what to do.

Naomi Wolfe suggested that citizens begin criminal prosecution of the people who are perpetrating this unethical and illegal behavior. Maybe that's not such a bad idea.

[7Hook]

how about lawsuit for emotional distress due to being constantly watched by cameras as though you are a criminal or a monkey in a zoo. And, unlike a lot of bullshit lawsuit you hear about, this would be true. I know these cameras distress me, and almost everyone making posts on this board.

[willmolinar]

1984 by Orwell anyone? It is here and now....

[ceresone]

Google "ECHELON PROJECT"

You are all being tracked an surveilled.

[Razorlvirus]

Everything you Type right now is monitered by The NSA

[natehihenr]

damn man nsa are real sneeky bitches i bet they are watchin me right now lol thx for tis info

[TyrannythroughArms]

What arrogance is it that Governments believe they have a right to know everthing about us? who we talk to, what we say, what we read, its disgusting!They veil themselves in secrecy and yet demand full access to the citizenry, surely in a democratic state it should be the other way around.

[cdoug1]

Amen

[MrDuffy81]

@TyrannythroughArms 2 words: NAZI GERMANI

Jim Marrs makes a good case in his book RISE OF THE 4TH REICH.

[gaikokujinNor]

@TyrannythroughArms Now the world is finally starting to figure out, the "freedom of speech" is just another controll system, which has never existed.

Just look at Europe, the US embassy has conducted an illegal surveillance of citizens the last 10 years!

[retroact1ve]

Being tracked and traced across a grid like a criminal and having your freedom hanging in the balance and can be threatened at any time on a whim is not freedom and not what America was about and is about and will never be about, you are not an American and therefore can not speak on behalf of American citizens or what they should think.

[xnostromo]

Right on. It's funny to me that the talking heads that talk the most about the American way and responsibility and self-determination are the ones pushing for this sort of society the hardest.

[jugzter]

Fears about national ID card sound plain silly when living in a stable active democracy (Greetings from Finland). Laws should control the database combination and maintenance (like in European Union) but to be scared of national ID card in a modern society sound so backwards.

[highway234]

weren't the nazis a modern society?

[imbrd]

@highway234 o no- they werent totalitarian enough- we gotta vaccinate everyone, brainwash them, legally spy on them, & crap on them

[imskin]

Our democracy is neither stable nor active here in the US. There are many movements within the political class to erode the US's democratic institutions a this point in time, so I believe that opposition on the ID card issue is justified.

[ProjectSWOLENESS]

haha do you believe this NONSENSE?!

Your democract is not statict. It's dynamic, it ain't forever, and it's already collapsing Just watch this video.

Greetings from reality.

[ToddBoyle]

Great stuff-both speakers. Informative and spirited. But Bamford erred on some points. 1)most tel traffic goes by fiber not satellites, Jim. 2)the idea telcos shd provide encryption devices for ppl is laughable; 3)YES we need keep our keys private but NO not the algorithms.

[racerfanracerfan]

On point 1, he did stress that the NSA was intercepting from space *before* fiber optic cables became prevalent, and now requires taps at telecom companies for that reason.

But I agree that he obviously doesn't have much clue about cryptography and shouldn't be giving advice to people.