I'm seriously considering starting skaven. Basically I'm wanting to get back into warhammer fantasy gradually, totally unsure what team to choose though ... i've considered wood elves, high elves, vampire counts and now these bad ass lil dudes and they seem to be making an impression.
From what i've heard slaves and hellpits kick arse... but ultimately what i'm wondering now is would people recommend these lil guys over other armies and why?
mister vamp player iv played 13 years of my life vamp conte so iv seen dat your a bigenner so next time remeber dat the general is the most important of all so wats a perfect thing is having a vamp lord with master of black arts,lord of the dead and vorbiden noledge with dat your invincible:)
Im new to Warhammer and i recently bought a Vampire Counts Battalion and i already have the Skaven army from Island Of Blood i was wondering is there anyway i could use both armies together and how well that would work.
Skeletons have light armour and shields. They get an armour save, though usually only on a 6, 5+ if it's an especially weak attack, like Rat Swarms or something. :)
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"Shawn" Is the most annoying individual I have seen today on the internet...that takes a lot. It's not even amusing, just sad and the only good parts are when he shuts his maw during his many face-palming failures. I'm wondering if this guy has an extra chromosome. Thanks for ruining what would have been a cool report.
@deezpuffinz The grey-haired one? I like him, tbh. Most Warhammer players I know are quirky and cheerful like "Shawn". Keeps games exciting, and makes me laugh. :)
Just a heads up, in the Skavens first magic phase the grey seer failed hes first casting roll to cast scorch, this means he gets "Broken Consentration" which means he cannot cast any more spells that magic phase.
Granted he might have had another caster that im not aware of but considering he only rolled 1 dice for channeling i assume he doesn't :P.
Cannot give you a rules reference as i dont have my book with me at the moment.
xD in a 700pt game i took 2 chief-tens 1 with the terror causing banner in the rulebook i took a plague claw catapult and put the banner chief-ten in a core of 80 slaves and the other in a 40strong clan rat unit
so that's a 80 strong terror causing unit of slaves
and a 40strong clanrat unit with a chief with halberd and some magic armour
its an epic, low point army I have a feeling i hat 2 rat ogres in there as well you should try it
@avragehuman I read a great article on that (yesthetruthhurts) where you take five vampires all with Light. Their spells are at +1S for every other Light Wizard within 12". Rough calculation puts that at 1200 points just for those five models.
Could I enquire as to why you would field ANY Skaven infantry unit in a 2 rank unit of around 10-12 guys? That's not how skaven work, a single good spell or good round of shooting/combat and those guys are gone, Ld 6 for hecks sake!
...thats extremely ironic, considering GW actually encourages players to use house rules. or to simply ignore rules they don't like, so as to make the game as fun as possible. have you ever read the rule book??
With the vampie counts army a unit can march if it is within 6" of a model with the "vampire" special rule or 12"of the general- pg 33 of warhammer armies vp book
- charge subphase works: you declare a 1st charge, he declares reaction (flee + stand&shot are resolved instantly, you declare 2nd charge, he declares (or changes) reaction... after all charges are declared and all reactions are declared/resolved you get to resolve the charges "...in any order you like". p.16
Mike, when you fire the lightning bolts from the Doomwheel, you roll an artillery dice per shot, not once. Page 67 of the Skaven Army Book. A far greater chance of it going wrong, just as it should be for the Skaven :)
you do not roll the artillery dice more than once as that covers the strength of all the bolts for that turn. Read the last paragraph on page 67. You may have miss judged the second of last paragraph where it says you roll each bolt separately but if you read on, it does say that you only roll the artillery dice.
also the film quote is from- the way we were - Barbra Streisand this does not make me happy lol
The 2nd paragraph advises that that you roll for each bolt separately . The FAQ in the latest errata advises that you don't have to roll to hit the Zzzzap shoots, therefore I take it that this must mean that each bolt has a separate strength. The Strength must be worked out individually otherwise the last sentence of the third paragraph doesn't make sense (that you can roll a shot, then roll a Misfire and as a result not get a third shot).
hey guys, sorry to be a bore, but in the skaven magic phase when the first spell is not cast, that wizard couldn't cast any more spells, page 32 under 'broken concentration' section.
@ChaosBroodLord attack you with the rules? That sounds like interesting word play. People can sure be mean but there is nothing wrong with correcting mistakes in a friendly maner.
gay's of nagaash :D
videoGunZ 3 days ago
Warhammer takes way too many dice
Stretchball 1 month ago
where is dreaded 13th spell?
LMEthan 1 month ago
if you had the curse of ages you would of destroyed his huge horde of skaven in a couple of turns because of their high unit count
MrMack1376 1 month ago
Hahaha I knew what was going to happen when you held the assassin up to the camera. From one skaven player to another!
Jackyp13 2 months ago
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I'm seriously considering starting skaven. Basically I'm wanting to get back into warhammer fantasy gradually, totally unsure what team to choose though ... i've considered wood elves, high elves, vampire counts and now these bad ass lil dudes and they seem to be making an impression.
From what i've heard slaves and hellpits kick arse... but ultimately what i'm wondering now is would people recommend these lil guys over other armies and why?
luckyd0m 3 months ago
If the abomination has warpstone spikes it's attacks are magical
saggyrectum 4 months ago
Look out! It's the warp lightning gherkin! only joking, it's cool.
saggyrectum 4 months ago
mister vamp player iv played 13 years of my life vamp conte so iv seen dat your a bigenner so next time remeber dat the general is the most important of all so wats a perfect thing is having a vamp lord with master of black arts,lord of the dead and vorbiden noledge with dat your invincible:)
Mrblipblopify 4 months ago
Im new to Warhammer and i recently bought a Vampire Counts Battalion and i already have the Skaven army from Island Of Blood i was wondering is there anyway i could use both armies together and how well that would work.
corpzfukkd 5 months ago
@corpzfukkd Skaven to zombies. Always need zombies.
H82M8 5 months ago
You have to roll a spells when you put mage in game, not before !
ZacneArtStudio 7 months ago
Skeletons have light armour and shields. They get an armour save, though usually only on a 6, 5+ if it's an especially weak attack, like Rat Swarms or something. :)
50033836 7 months ago
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"Shawn" Is the most annoying individual I have seen today on the internet...that takes a lot. It's not even amusing, just sad and the only good parts are when he shuts his maw during his many face-palming failures. I'm wondering if this guy has an extra chromosome. Thanks for ruining what would have been a cool report.
deezpuffinz 8 months ago
@deezpuffinz The grey-haired one? I like him, tbh. Most Warhammer players I know are quirky and cheerful like "Shawn". Keeps games exciting, and makes me laugh. :)
50033836 7 months ago
A fish named wanda! Now gimme my points!
Lastofalter 9 months ago
giiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiief warmachine batreps ;)
Johnni23 10 months ago
The helm of commandment can only be used if the vampire is not in combat :/ the only reason why i am not taking it in my list.
And a Vampire Lord with red fury, infinite hatred and sword of bloodshed is awesome :D
great batrep btw
Foresttroll93 10 months ago
fish called wonda o ya
brady1998 10 months ago
Your battle reports are the reason I got into this hobby. I love these videos! Keep em coming!
thoriam 10 months ago
Just a heads up, in the Skavens first magic phase the grey seer failed hes first casting roll to cast scorch, this means he gets "Broken Consentration" which means he cannot cast any more spells that magic phase.
Granted he might have had another caster that im not aware of but considering he only rolled 1 dice for channeling i assume he doesn't :P.
Cannot give you a rules reference as i dont have my book with me at the moment.
Zemox92 10 months ago
xD in a 700pt game i took 2 chief-tens 1 with the terror causing banner in the rulebook i took a plague claw catapult and put the banner chief-ten in a core of 80 slaves and the other in a 40strong clan rat unit
so that's a 80 strong terror causing unit of slaves
and a 40strong clanrat unit with a chief with halberd and some magic armour
its an epic, low point army I have a feeling i hat 2 rat ogres in there as well you should try it
killerbronze 10 months ago
One of the Wraith are deployed to close to the building (1" rule).
/ Rules nazi.
Stender84 10 months ago
So... I bet the skaven win... Just because I think they are the most difficult race to fight against. I think I've won one battle against them.
DracoAvian 10 months ago
if your gunna take a vampire lord... gatta say LIGHT is the way to go :D
avragehuman 10 months ago
@avragehuman I read a great article on that (yesthetruthhurts) where you take five vampires all with Light. Their spells are at +1S for every other Light Wizard within 12". Rough calculation puts that at 1200 points just for those five models.
bluetablepainting 10 months ago 3
im not too sure pretty sure that shadow or metal is better but i guess it depends on the circumstances but i usualy run a shadow vampire
SKAVENSQUEEK 10 months ago
11:45 if you roll two ones on a dispell roll, the dispelling goes wrong and the spell isn't dispelled! ;)
paulovosky 10 months ago
That hellpit abomination looks like something out of my nightmare's nightmares... I'm tempted to get one to scare my sister :D
CDNKvetch 10 months ago
There arnt arny partial hits anymore with the new rules
zac761 10 months ago
@Antaria16 What does can i have 5 points mean?
zac761 10 months ago
you could have dispelled it. he rolled a 5 add on his wisard lvl = 9 you could have dispelled it on the roll of a 6 = wizard lvl = 9
zac761 10 months ago
for martching with undead you can march if you are within 12 of general or 6 of anything with the vampire rule.
zac761 10 months ago
@zac761 I am fairly certain this is what it says in the Vampire Counts general rules.
bluetablepainting 10 months ago
Could I enquire as to why you would field ANY Skaven infantry unit in a 2 rank unit of around 10-12 guys? That's not how skaven work, a single good spell or good round of shooting/combat and those guys are gone, Ld 6 for hecks sake!
HaldorZX 10 months ago
Nice vids :)
Rockingdude1990 10 months ago
"Darn you, subconscious, interpretting things in ways I didn't expect!"
13:34
Lol.
innocentBystander19 10 months ago
i find fantasy far more enjoyable to watch, glad you posted this
porcu12345 10 months ago
Are those Mantic Zombies?
JavlinVII 10 months ago
a game should be fun, thats the problem with GW their way too much into competitive play one of the reasons i stoped supporting em ;)
underfire987 10 months ago
@underfire987
...thats extremely ironic, considering GW actually encourages players to use house rules. or to simply ignore rules they don't like, so as to make the game as fun as possible. have you ever read the rule book??
Tartersauce101 10 months ago
Does Mike still carry?
gman1225 10 months ago
Look at those shorts . . . . . .
Prosepon 10 months ago
tht warplighting cannon looks a little ridiculous
purpleSun6292 10 months ago
Did the Hellpit abomination have warpstone spikes? If he did he'd be able to hurt the wraiths.
Blight02 10 months ago
finally- fantasy! :D
Birthblade 10 months ago
With the vampie counts army a unit can march if it is within 6" of a model with the "vampire" special rule or 12"of the general- pg 33 of warhammer armies vp book
robbie125125 10 months ago
I guess now he could be called "Shawn of the dead" hehe get it?!?!
...never mind. Cool batrep, more fantasy, finally!
granduelist 10 months ago
@granduelist Hehe /winkwinknodnod
samrtk 10 months ago
Woot! Vampire Counts!! <3
thedonoftrek 10 months ago
Thank you for taking the time to share this battle with your fans :)
Hudjiro 10 months ago 3
don't forget about the dreaded 13th spell
dabears8743 10 months ago
with vampire marching...you can march anything within 8" of ANY "vampire"
the 12" thing is incorrect sorry...thats just for using generals leadership.
GG . Good to see the fantasy batreps again :D
socamoto 10 months ago
FINALLY,A WHFB BATTLE REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!
Dargor94 10 months ago
When i saw him put deathmaster in front of the camera i peed laughing
conn12347 10 months ago
I have missed the fantasy battle reports from you guys :3
Just to say, if you fail to cast, you cant cast again, but who cares! have fun :D
leokill27 10 months ago
As always, a nice and fun video to watch! Sweet to see fantasy back on the channel :)
here are a few remarks on rules and pages (some already mentioned by others):
- skirmishers have to rank up with an aprox. 0.5 inch gap in between. p.77
- if you fail to roll high enough to cast a spell that caster can't cast another spell in the same phase p.32
- you would have to roll "look out sir" for the vampire p.99 + 93
PatrazhTT 10 months ago 12
- charge subphase works: you declare a 1st charge, he declares reaction (flee + stand&shot are resolved instantly, you declare 2nd charge, he declares (or changes) reaction... after all charges are declared and all reactions are declared/resolved you get to resolve the charges "...in any order you like". p.16
PatrazhTT 10 months ago
@PatrazhTT Thank you very much for the page references to rules.
bluetablepainting 10 months ago 9
DO MOAAAR!!!
kikwasses 10 months ago
I have missed the fantasy battle reports from you guys :3
leokill27 10 months ago 23
i love the batreps for a general idea of the games but if you really need to watch a game of rules guys just go to your local shop and play one lol
lordloukota 10 months ago
great choice of armies, always like watching skaven and vamps. oh, you could've dispelled the lightning in the first magic phase with a 6 :)
ynithrix 10 months ago
Just wanted to say thank you for posting another Fantasy Battle report - its been a while and I have missed them!
Please keep them coming.
Fayzer55
fayzer55 10 months ago
if u have two beautifully painted armies and a beautiful table to play on, who cares if the rules arent always there!
RedDemon73 10 months ago 3
Mike, when you fire the lightning bolts from the Doomwheel, you roll an artillery dice per shot, not once. Page 67 of the Skaven Army Book. A far greater chance of it going wrong, just as it should be for the Skaven :)
NoPreyRemains 10 months ago
@NoPreyRemains
you do not roll the artillery dice more than once as that covers the strength of all the bolts for that turn. Read the last paragraph on page 67. You may have miss judged the second of last paragraph where it says you roll each bolt separately but if you read on, it does say that you only roll the artillery dice.
also the film quote is from- the way we were - Barbra Streisand this does not make me happy lol
Ootternonsense 10 months ago
@Ootternonsense
The 2nd paragraph advises that that you roll for each bolt separately . The FAQ in the latest errata advises that you don't have to roll to hit the Zzzzap shoots, therefore I take it that this must mean that each bolt has a separate strength. The Strength must be worked out individually otherwise the last sentence of the third paragraph doesn't make sense (that you can roll a shot, then roll a Misfire and as a result not get a third shot).
NoPreyRemains 10 months ago
hey guys, sorry to be a bore, but in the skaven magic phase when the first spell is not cast, that wizard couldn't cast any more spells, page 32 under 'broken concentration' section.
I was just looking it up last night too :P
cmdrsausage 10 months ago
if the caster fails to cast a spell, he cant cast anymore!
Chapulin666 10 months ago
@Chapulin666 isnt that only if they miscast and its only that specific spell?
kevinmcd28 10 months ago
btw shawn, you could have dispelled the first warp lightning as you have a level 3 and he rolled a 9
zhorphorus 10 months ago
WOOT, I was waiting for some fantasy action! Vamps sweet, vs Skaven sweeter!
Maalve1 10 months ago
It was a d:3 not a d:6
So a 6 means 3 so it is
warhammerneard 10 months ago
Mistake: 6+4 is not 7. ;) (Regarding the number of zombies raised in the first magic phase.)
TheodorEriksson 10 months ago
@TheodorEriksson it was a d3 roll . so he just halved a die . 3 + 4
Sasuke1712 10 months ago
Love the warhammer battle reps
JESTER588 10 months ago
Playing VC without Vanhel's is hard..:)
Da40kOrks 10 months ago
You are suposed to say what school of magic u roll on with the Grey Seer not pick after u rolled.
hammerfall4thewin 10 months ago
nice outfit Shawn. Tropical Utah
MrBlaarghh 10 months ago
Fish Called Wanda, as a prize can I request more WFB reports in the future.
omegabaphomet 10 months ago
@omegabaphomet Damn I had it =(
228zip 10 months ago
Once you fail to cast a spell you have broken concentration and cannot cast with that wizard for rest of phase. See broken concentration in glossary.
zaz3r 10 months ago
Wow, do you have a tutorial on making those buildings? Or did you buy them from somewhere?
Great to see another fantasy batrep.
AggieEngineer11 10 months ago
@AggieEngineer11 I'm pretty sure those are the buildings from Custom Kingdoms. They have some really nice things, and you can buy them pre painted.
Lizardknight1 10 months ago
If the HPA got triple 6's it should have rolled on the berserk table.
asuitandty 10 months ago
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"There she blows!" He he he.....
unkelasshole 10 months ago
WOHOOO!
Girhin 10 months ago
You wouldn't roll separately when your Vampire got hit by the template, you'd roll Look out Sir.
Deathnite9 10 months ago
w00t to the friendly game! people who attack you with rules can be a little mean and it ruins the fun
ChaosBroodLord 10 months ago 45
@ChaosBroodLord
If you're a total noob that is
wydog286 10 months ago
@ChaosBroodLord attack you with the rules? That sounds like interesting word play. People can sure be mean but there is nothing wrong with correcting mistakes in a friendly maner.
makooma 10 months ago
First
BAtrogit 10 months ago
@BAtrogit You have no friends.
Cryxboy 10 months ago