@studmuffin0681 You are correct, sir! The scene was never actually in the script, but an acceptable ending for the film hadn't yet been written. Someone proposed the idea of the Klingons attacking the Enterprise after V'ger "evolved," and Andrew Probert drew some storyboards to show how the saucer would separate. I based this video on his storyboards. Obviously, the scene never made it into the film, so I did this to show what it might look like. Thanks for writing!
@C12830772 Better watch more Star Trek episodes dude. During the 23rd century, separation was used as a means of abandoning either primary or secondary hull in the event of a catastrophic emergency. It was a one-time only event, and the hulls could not be reconnected without external support. This feature was a last-resort option aboard Constitution-class starships. (TOS: "The Apple")
During the 23rd century, separation was used as a means of abandoning either primary or secondary hull in the event of a catastrophic emergency. It was a one-time only event, and the hulls could not be reconnected without external support. This feature was a last-resort option aboard Constitution-class starships. (TOS: "The Apple")
I like what you done. But not to nitpick, I notice a piece of the "neck" didn't completely separate from the saucer. I thought the whole neck separated from the saucer. Still, your rendition is much more believable than what happened in GENERATIONS. And now that I think about it, who put that cosmic cheerleader behind the steering wheel?
@Bla31n Only a small part of the dorsal neck separates with the saucer in this version of the Enterprise. Check out some schematics online and you'll see a pair of red stripes on the neck; this is where the saucer disconnects from the secondary hull. As for Generations, they used the same separation procedure seen on the TNG TV series, with a few enhancements, of course. I don't really blame Troi for crashing the saucer. The ship was doomed anyway. There was no way for her to save it.
@buckaroohawk I was thinking of Andrew Probert's concept when he toyed with the idea of the Enterprise refit separating during a battle with the Klingons; instead, he had the whole saucer detach from the dorsal neck. But I see the stripes on which you refer.
@Bla31n This video is based on Probert's concept. The storyboards for it were in one of the Star Trek hardcovers, I think it was "The Art of Star Trek," but I'm not sure. In his concept, the first deck of the dorsal neck separated with the saucer because it supports the impulse engines and contains a retractable landing leg in case the saucer has to make planetfall. It's too bad this sequence was never in a movie. It would have been very cool to see. Thanks for writing!
@Kamau47 Technically, you're right. The explosion of the stardrive section knocked the saucer into a crash course with the planet and took the flight controls offline for a while. There really wasn't anything she could do. She was in the pilot seat, though, and data had to do some work to level the saucer's descent, so unfortunately the "L" still goes in her column.
@buckaroohawk Then of course there is the joke that the Enterprise always seems to crash when Troi's at the helm. She was at the helm in Nemesis during the collision with the Scimitar.
@ProtoKun7 True enough, but she did that under orders from Picard so it wasn't really her fault. My only problem with that scene is that I don't recall Picard (or anyone for that matter) ordering that the bow of the saucer be evacuated. Did Picard kill dozens of his own crew just to get into a fender-bender with the Scimitar?
@buckaroohawk It certainly wasn't down to her bad piloting, it's just an humorous coincidence. It's possible that it had already been evacuated or there was a command given that we didn't see.
@davideshafer The impulse engines are at the back of the saucer, as they always have been. They aren't attached to the dordal neck or the secondary hull. Every version of the Enterprise, including the 2009 film version, has had impulse engines on the saucer section. Check out some blueprints online and you'll see what I mean. Thanks for writing!
@davideshafer I was wondering same thing. In first encounter with Q they leave the saucer behind and somehow it catches up with them in a reasonable amount of time. Traveling without warp engines is supposed to be extremely slow.
@carlylespicks I think the seconday hull warped back to the saucer. Of course if they were'nt too far away impulse travel wouldn't take too long. Remember that impulse drive is at sub-light speeds and even approching light speed. Warp is faster than light, so if the saucer were traveling at full impulse that could catch up with the secondary hull.
@PaulMichaels78 Thanks for writing! I'm glad you liked the video. I'd like to see a saucer separation in the next new Trek film, too, but from my studies of the new Enterprise I can't see where the separation line might be. I guess that will up to the writers and the FX crew if/when they decide to try it.
@AdamEtheredge Now, now...let's not get into a debate/argument over the merits (or lack thereof) of Star Trek 2009. Some people like it, some people hate it. It is what is. Let's just leave it at that.
@buckaroohawk I'll admit, there were things I really enjoyed about the new one. The Captain Pike speeches about Kirk's insouciant character for example: "You never were able to find your place in this world. You could settle for a less-than-normal existence..." And I loved how Kirk was basically just a really smart punk.
But the black hole stuff I found to be more of a metaphor for the gaping plot holes in the story than anything scientifically plausible.
@PaulMichaels78 "I wondered about this for years. I wonder if the re-imagined new Enterprise NCC-1701 will separate in the next movie?" God I hope not. I hope it didn't make enough money to green light a sequeal.
Well, Deanna Troi was "driving" when the Ent-D crashed. Come to think of it, she was also at the helm when the Ent-E rammed the Scimitar in "Nemesis." Anyone else see a pattern there?
I agree that the sound effects are a little sub-par, but they were all free. We gotta work with what we can afford, and I can't afford much! Glad you liked the video, though. Thanks for writing!
I actually read somewhere exactly what you have done in the video. It was originally conceived that the 1701 would separate. However it would be a one time thing meaning it could not re integrate the the saucer would be used as a life boat. I read this in Star trek communicator years ago. Nice to actually see it in CG In any case I love it.
Thanks! Someday I'd like to do a more detailed and dramatic version, but that's a project for another day. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for writing!
The Enterprise-D saucer separation was fun to watch, and I'm glad you enjoyed this look at what the TMP Enterprise saucer sep. sequence might have looked like. Thanks for writing!
The Enterprise J was designed by brilliant VFX Master Doug Drexler, so it has a great pedigree, but the design is a misfire in my opinion, too. it's just too fragile-looking and its shape it too hard to discern.
very good job. the sizzling sounds of the star drive section was good too. god you can spend all day on youtube looking at cool stuff like this - but my head is about to explode so i am going to finish this and go lay down. can you please please do the enterpise J ??
Well, I'm glad you liked the video, and I hope you've recovered from your tiring day. As for the Enterprise J, I'm not a big fan of that design so I doubt I'll tackle it any time soon. Thanks for writing!
The movie version of the TOS Enterprise was also designed so the saucer could separate in an emergency. I based this video on actual (but unused) storyboards from TMP. I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for writing.
Kirk did mention that some kind of separation was possible, but exactly what and how was never explained. Most fans think it was separating the saucer from the engineering section, but no one knows for certain. Thanks for writing!
I use 3D Studio Max for rendering the animation and ParticleIllusion for the FX. Both programs are fairly expensive, though, so I suggest researching other programs as well.
Great Vid man. I noticed reading through the other comments that you want to do one where it is landing. Well let me know when you have completed that as I will be waiting impaciently for that
I'll get around to that one of these days, after I catch up on all the other projects I have planned. So, while I appreciate your enthusiasm, please don't be impatient. It might be a while. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for writing!
great video, i know the saucer can land, if you look under the saucer you can see 4 big trap, its the landing gear that are there, its for emergency landing since the saucer wont be able to lift of with its impulse engine, and the have shuttle for landing if the transporter wont work.
It was hinted in the TOS episode "The Apple" that the Enterprise could separate somehow, but no details were given. Andrew Probert also designed a separation sequence for TMP that was never photographed, but storyboards for it exist. Other than that, it's always been fan speculation. I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for writing!
Nicely Done. Did you know that Star Trek: The Motion Picture originally had scripted a scene where the saucer section and the star drive section did separate at the end (nothing blows up).
Great video! It brings that concept to life for me.
I based this sequence on the storyboards for that never-filmed scene, originally designed by Andrew Probert. Glad you enjoyed the video. Happy Thanksgiving!
I built the CGI model, developed all of the animation and rendered the whole thing myself. No episode or Trek movie ever showed the saucer section of the Constitution Class Enterprise separating. They did it on TNG, but that was a different ship entirely. This one's all mine.
Give me a break! The video isn't supposed to be a documentary about real space travel. It's a clip based on Star Trek. Science fiction. Not real. No sound equals boring. You want real, watch The Science Channel.
I think the Ent. D's impulse engines would be more than enough to propel the saucer at at least .2c, but it was most likely damaged in the attack. If a single impulse engine can propel it at full impulse, two should be enough for the saucer.
If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that 1) The Ent-D saucer is a lot bigger, so it has a lot more mass to move and 2) it had been damaged in the attack and wasn't operating at full capacity. How does that sound?
NICE!!!...they need that in the new Trek film thats a reboot..so it's obvously startying over with that kind of enterprise,it owuldb e about time to show that kind of class of starship in the old trek's to have that kind of ability like the galaxy class :D
I'm glad you liked it. I don't think the new movie will be as much of a "reboot" as some people think, but it would be cool to see the TOS Constitution Class pull off a saucer separation.
It would be interesting to see the saucer land. Supposedly there are landing skids and a ramp that can drop from the saucer in Probert's design.
My only critique of the separation sequence is that, realistically, the explosive bolts should blow simultaneously, and the saucer would probably make a straight full-impulse escape from the imminent warp breech rather than make a turn. You probably know that but went for dramatic effect.
I've thought about showing a saucer landing, but haven't worked out the logistics of it yet. As for the saucer turning, it actually didn't occur to me to have it escape in a straight line, but if you want to call it "dramatic effect," I'm okay with that. Thanks for writing!
Awesome! I too heard, except from my dad, that the Constitution could saucer separate, but they never did it in the series or movies. Great 3D Animation! :D
I'm glad we cleared that up. I really appreciate that you took the time to write. I enjoy getting messages from people who watch my videos. Thank you very much!
In the storyboards for Star Trek The Motion Picture there is an emergancy saucer seperation because V'GER never really destroyed those Klingon battle cruisers so whats being shown here might of happended in the first Trek film lol! it was for a possible ending to the film.
Correct. An emergency situation like the one I depict in the video. The saucer doesn't have warp drive, but it's an effective impulse-powered lifeboat if necessary.
No, the refit Enterprise WAS designed so that the saucer can separate from the secondary hull in an emergency. It's in the technical specs by Andrew Probert (the man who designed the refit for The Motion Picture). A sequence showing this was even storyboarded for The Motion Picture, though it was never filmed. I based this video on those storyboards. I'm afraid your information is incorrect.
Actually, the saucer never separated from the secondary hull when the Enterprise was destroyed in Star Trek III. Come to think of it, maybe it should have. Good point. Thanks for writing!
Pretty cool, I remember they wanted to do a sequance of the Enterprise A seperating in the first movie but did'nt for some reason, budget I think. Would have been cool though.
This kind of reminds me of the novel, A Flagful Of Stars, because the saucer did separate in that, but I think the novel referred to it as "the command section"
I gave this vid 5 Stars! The Enterprise A is my all-time favorite version! I used to own Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise and I believe it mentioned the saucer seperation procedure. The saucer also has extendable landing legs and a drop-down planetary descent ramp. It could land on a planet but not take off again. At least it could land without crashing! *cough*EnterpriseD*cough* ;)
Well, the Enterprise-D saucer was quite a bit larger than the Constitution saucer, so perhaps a slide-out landing was the best they could hope for. Glad you liked the video. Thanks for writing!
Wow I think I just wet myself. I've always wondered what that would look like. Its a nice touch making it look like a once-only disconnecting mechanism.
It was always implied that if the saucer had to disconnect, it was a one-off procedure. Reconnection, if possible, had to be done at a starbase. Thanks for writing, pepe!
This is real nice work.I been trying to do some star trek animations myself but my problem is I can't seem to get the textures right.I can download the model on line but the program Im using won't import the texture right.The program I use is bryce 3d ver.5.
I use 3D Studio Max for my animations. It has it's own limitations regarding material maps, but it serves my purposes. I highly recommend giving it a try. Thanks for writng!
nice job on it. a couple of things. 1) I dont believe it would have happened that fast 2) It certainly wouldnt have made that sound when it seperated and 3) I know you probably used the stock sound for when the saucer was departing the drive section, but that was the warp sound, and as a star trek fan for life, i must point out that the fastest the saucer section could go is full impulse. I know this was just for seperation, but seeing Vger would have been AWESOME.
Wow! You really know you're stuff. I debated on the speed of the separation for a long time, finally deciding that faster was better since the ship was about to go BOOM. The "warp whoosh" sound effect was the only rapid fly-by sound in my archive at the time. I didn't think anyone would catch it. You just proved me wrong. Thanks for writing!
no problem! there are a few other things that would differ had this been a real thing.. but i didnt want to piss you off with my ramblings and i actually do think you did a good job lol!
This is why Star Trek is being reborn among the fans with computer skills- So many great concepts that had to be left on the drawing board are now possible. Thank you for this wonderful look into 'lost' Trek.
Yeah, Kirk said something about "cracking out of there with the main section" or something like that, but it was never really clear if he meant separating the saucer or jettisoning the warp engines. I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for writing!
Thanks! Andrew Probert drew storyboards for a saucer separation sequence in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, but when the script was revised, that scene was dropped. I based this animation on the sequence he devised. Thanks for writing!
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jflawless 5 months ago
@studmuffin0681 You are correct, sir! The scene was never actually in the script, but an acceptable ending for the film hadn't yet been written. Someone proposed the idea of the Klingons attacking the Enterprise after V'ger "evolved," and Andrew Probert drew some storyboards to show how the saucer would separate. I based this video on his storyboards. Obviously, the scene never made it into the film, so I did this to show what it might look like. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 9 months ago 2
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@C12830772 Better watch more Star Trek episodes dude. During the 23rd century, separation was used as a means of abandoning either primary or secondary hull in the event of a catastrophic emergency. It was a one-time only event, and the hulls could not be reconnected without external support. This feature was a last-resort option aboard Constitution-class starships. (TOS: "The Apple")
From Star Trek Wiki: Memory Alpha
thefinalfrontier1701 1 year ago
During the 23rd century, separation was used as a means of abandoning either primary or secondary hull in the event of a catastrophic emergency. It was a one-time only event, and the hulls could not be reconnected without external support. This feature was a last-resort option aboard Constitution-class starships. (TOS: "The Apple")
From Star Trek Wiki: Memory Alpha
thefinalfrontier1701 1 year ago
@thefinalfrontier1701 I'd say that covers it quite concisely. Thanks for the info!
buckaroohawk 1 year ago
I like what you done. But not to nitpick, I notice a piece of the "neck" didn't completely separate from the saucer. I thought the whole neck separated from the saucer. Still, your rendition is much more believable than what happened in GENERATIONS. And now that I think about it, who put that cosmic cheerleader behind the steering wheel?
Bla31n 1 year ago
@Bla31n Only a small part of the dorsal neck separates with the saucer in this version of the Enterprise. Check out some schematics online and you'll see a pair of red stripes on the neck; this is where the saucer disconnects from the secondary hull. As for Generations, they used the same separation procedure seen on the TNG TV series, with a few enhancements, of course. I don't really blame Troi for crashing the saucer. The ship was doomed anyway. There was no way for her to save it.
buckaroohawk 1 year ago
@buckaroohawk I was thinking of Andrew Probert's concept when he toyed with the idea of the Enterprise refit separating during a battle with the Klingons; instead, he had the whole saucer detach from the dorsal neck. But I see the stripes on which you refer.
Bla31n 1 year ago
@Bla31n This video is based on Probert's concept. The storyboards for it were in one of the Star Trek hardcovers, I think it was "The Art of Star Trek," but I'm not sure. In his concept, the first deck of the dorsal neck separated with the saucer because it supports the impulse engines and contains a retractable landing leg in case the saucer has to make planetfall. It's too bad this sequence was never in a movie. It would have been very cool to see. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 1 year ago
@buckaroohawk He only wished he had done the same for E-D.
Bla31n 1 year ago
@buckaroohawk Did Troi actually "crash" Enterprise D? I thought it was blown into the atmosphere by the warp core breech of the drive section.
Kamau47 9 months ago
@Kamau47 Technically, you're right. The explosion of the stardrive section knocked the saucer into a crash course with the planet and took the flight controls offline for a while. There really wasn't anything she could do. She was in the pilot seat, though, and data had to do some work to level the saucer's descent, so unfortunately the "L" still goes in her column.
buckaroohawk 9 months ago
@buckaroohawk Then of course there is the joke that the Enterprise always seems to crash when Troi's at the helm. She was at the helm in Nemesis during the collision with the Scimitar.
ProtoKun7 7 months ago
@ProtoKun7 True enough, but she did that under orders from Picard so it wasn't really her fault. My only problem with that scene is that I don't recall Picard (or anyone for that matter) ordering that the bow of the saucer be evacuated. Did Picard kill dozens of his own crew just to get into a fender-bender with the Scimitar?
buckaroohawk 7 months ago
@buckaroohawk It certainly wasn't down to her bad piloting, it's just an humorous coincidence. It's possible that it had already been evacuated or there was a command given that we didn't see.
ProtoKun7 7 months ago
How would the saucer move away from a strickend secondary hull without an impulse engine?
davideshafer 1 year ago
@davideshafer The impulse engines are at the back of the saucer, as they always have been. They aren't attached to the dordal neck or the secondary hull. Every version of the Enterprise, including the 2009 film version, has had impulse engines on the saucer section. Check out some blueprints online and you'll see what I mean. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 1 year ago
@davideshafer I was wondering same thing. In first encounter with Q they leave the saucer behind and somehow it catches up with them in a reasonable amount of time. Traveling without warp engines is supposed to be extremely slow.
carlylespicks 1 year ago
@carlylespicks I think the seconday hull warped back to the saucer. Of course if they were'nt too far away impulse travel wouldn't take too long. Remember that impulse drive is at sub-light speeds and even approching light speed. Warp is faster than light, so if the saucer were traveling at full impulse that could catch up with the secondary hull.
davideshafer 1 year ago
@davideshafer Emergency backup nuclear powercells; I found it in the specs in Mr. Scott's guide to the Enterprise.
ZanyJIntPictures 6 months ago
That was MAGNIFICENT. I wondered about this for years. I wonder if the re-imagined new Enterprise NCC-1701 will separate in the next movie?
PaulMichaels78 1 year ago
@PaulMichaels78 Thanks for writing! I'm glad you liked the video. I'd like to see a saucer separation in the next new Trek film, too, but from my studies of the new Enterprise I can't see where the separation line might be. I guess that will up to the writers and the FX crew if/when they decide to try it.
buckaroohawk 1 year ago
@PaulMichaels78 Hopefully they'll have to do a saucer sep while the main cast is in the elevator...
AdamEtheredge 1 year ago
@AdamEtheredge Now, now...let's not get into a debate/argument over the merits (or lack thereof) of Star Trek 2009. Some people like it, some people hate it. It is what is. Let's just leave it at that.
buckaroohawk 1 year ago
@buckaroohawk I'll admit, there were things I really enjoyed about the new one. The Captain Pike speeches about Kirk's insouciant character for example: "You never were able to find your place in this world. You could settle for a less-than-normal existence..." And I loved how Kirk was basically just a really smart punk.
But the black hole stuff I found to be more of a metaphor for the gaping plot holes in the story than anything scientifically plausible.
Good characters, lame story.
AdamEtheredge 1 year ago
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@PaulMichaels78 "I wondered about this for years. I wonder if the re-imagined new Enterprise NCC-1701 will separate in the next movie?" God I hope not. I hope it didn't make enough money to green light a sequeal.
davideshafer 6 months ago
If only it had worked out that way for the Enterprise D, it may still be around :\
lilsinjin 2 years ago
Well, Deanna Troi was "driving" when the Ent-D crashed. Come to think of it, she was also at the helm when the Ent-E rammed the Scimitar in "Nemesis." Anyone else see a pattern there?
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 2 years ago
Holy crap, you broke the enterprise! lol
I've always heard constitution class ships could do saucer sep, it was cool to finally see it! Great job
srvfan454 2 years ago
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 2 years ago
The sound effects are lousy, but nevertheless the video is still good. :-)
HamburgZero 2 years ago
I agree that the sound effects are a little sub-par, but they were all free. We gotta work with what we can afford, and I can't afford much! Glad you liked the video, though. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 2 years ago
I actually read somewhere exactly what you have done in the video. It was originally conceived that the 1701 would separate. However it would be a one time thing meaning it could not re integrate the the saucer would be used as a life boat. I read this in Star trek communicator years ago. Nice to actually see it in CG In any case I love it.
locsphere 2 years ago
Thanks! Someday I'd like to do a more detailed and dramatic version, but that's a project for another day. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 2 years ago
Cool vid! I always enjoyed the saucer separation on TNG and wish it had been used more.
RatedGForGentleman 2 years ago
The Enterprise-D saucer separation was fun to watch, and I'm glad you enjoyed this look at what the TMP Enterprise saucer sep. sequence might have looked like. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 2 years ago
I agree, the Enterprise J looks like they spent 5 minutes throwing a cheap design together.
jamintaylor 2 years ago
The Enterprise J was designed by brilliant VFX Master Doug Drexler, so it has a great pedigree, but the design is a misfire in my opinion, too. it's just too fragile-looking and its shape it too hard to discern.
buckaroohawk 2 years ago
I didn't like the Enterprise J either
musicalcaptain 3 years ago
I can't even figure out how the parts of the Ent-J fit together, and it looks like it's only two decks tall. Not a very good design.
I hope you liked the video. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 3 years ago
very good job. the sizzling sounds of the star drive section was good too. god you can spend all day on youtube looking at cool stuff like this - but my head is about to explode so i am going to finish this and go lay down. can you please please do the enterpise J ??
robmillist 3 years ago
Well, I'm glad you liked the video, and I hope you've recovered from your tiring day. As for the Enterprise J, I'm not a big fan of that design so I doubt I'll tackle it any time soon. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 3 years ago
Thats brill, nice textures and the unique seperation of that enterprise with the enterprise D being the only one that can seperate.
andyx1000 3 years ago
The movie version of the TOS Enterprise was also designed so the saucer could separate in an emergency. I based this video on actual (but unused) storyboards from TMP. I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for writing.
buckaroohawk 3 years ago
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andyx1000 3 years ago
The TOS TV version was also able to seperate. Kirk mentioned it in dialogue during "The Apple", I think.
freakshowmonkey 3 years ago
Kirk did mention that some kind of separation was possible, but exactly what and how was never explained. Most fans think it was separating the saucer from the engineering section, but no one knows for certain. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 3 years ago
oh and whats the website you used to buy 3d studio max?
miggy558 4 years ago
The program is made by a company named Autodesk. You can find them using Google. Best of luck!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
please tell me what software you use to make these! These are amazing and I could use 3-D renders of enterprise for my movies!!!!!
miggy558 4 years ago
I use 3D Studio Max for rendering the animation and ParticleIllusion for the FX. Both programs are fairly expensive, though, so I suggest researching other programs as well.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Great Vid man. I noticed reading through the other comments that you want to do one where it is landing. Well let me know when you have completed that as I will be waiting impaciently for that
matswotw 4 years ago
I'll get around to that one of these days, after I catch up on all the other projects I have planned. So, while I appreciate your enthusiasm, please don't be impatient. It might be a while. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
great video, i know the saucer can land, if you look under the saucer you can see 4 big trap, its the landing gear that are there, its for emergency landing since the saucer wont be able to lift of with its impulse engine, and the have shuttle for landing if the transporter wont work.
DonKarnage1 4 years ago
Yeah, supposedly the saucer can land, but I haven't gotten around to rendering a scene of that yet. Glad you liked the video. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
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thancientz 4 years ago
thank
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Didn't the Enterprise seperate in the premier episode of Star Trek, the Next Generation and then go back together again?
Jayfive67 4 years ago
Yes, but that was a different class of starship.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
I wondered how that would've looked if they ever used it. Was it created in the first place by roddenberry? I had the techinal manual
whitestud1971 4 years ago
It was hinted in the TOS episode "The Apple" that the Enterprise could separate somehow, but no details were given. Andrew Probert also designed a separation sequence for TMP that was never photographed, but storyboards for it exist. Other than that, it's always been fan speculation. I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
does anyone a copy of The Art Of Star Trek? in that book it shows the seperation sequence of the refit Enterprise that Probert desighned.
PsWii60pwns 4 years ago
That's where I got the idea from. I couldn't remember which book those storyboards were published in. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Great Job. I like It.
freakfreak12345 4 years ago
Thanks very much! I appreciate that you took the time to write.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Nicely Done. Did you know that Star Trek: The Motion Picture originally had scripted a scene where the saucer section and the star drive section did separate at the end (nothing blows up).
Great video! It brings that concept to life for me.
uselessman73 4 years ago
I based this sequence on the storyboards for that never-filmed scene, originally designed by Andrew Probert. Glad you enjoyed the video. Happy Thanksgiving!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
great job wish it was longer
jsf525 4 years ago
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. Happy Thanksgiving!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
you created this movie?? or cut scenes of the serie??
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thiagosats 4 years ago
I built the CGI model, developed all of the animation and rendered the whole thing myself. No episode or Trek movie ever showed the saucer section of the Constitution Class Enterprise separating. They did it on TNG, but that was a different ship entirely. This one's all mine.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
That was awesome!
Nice choice of angles especially
: )
SpockBoy 4 years ago
Thank you, SpockBoy! That's a high compliment, since I'm such a fan of your work. Thanks for writing.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
You know what's awesome? When you see people you know in other places online purely by accident.
Great video, Buckaroo. From a conceptual standpoint, most enlightening.
BCSWowbagger 4 years ago
Thanks! I really appreciate the compliment. Do we know each other from somewhere else online? I'm not familiar with your callsign.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Just want to remind you that no one can hear sounds in space. Sorry. Its a vacuum.
tbaggray 4 years ago
Give me a break! The video isn't supposed to be a documentary about real space travel. It's a clip based on Star Trek. Science fiction. Not real. No sound equals boring. You want real, watch The Science Channel.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
btw, excellent video. The camera movement was great! Make more of these... engage.
SGTBizarro 4 years ago
Thanks for the replies, sgt. I'm glad you liked the video.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
I think the Ent. D's impulse engines would be more than enough to propel the saucer at at least .2c, but it was most likely damaged in the attack. If a single impulse engine can propel it at full impulse, two should be enough for the saucer.
SGTBizarro 4 years ago
Very nice,one question though:how come the 1701-D Saucer section didnot move as fast when its' star drive/warpcore exploded under:
Destruction Of The Enterprise-D
ShippoTheFoxKid1983 4 years ago
If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that 1) The Ent-D saucer is a lot bigger, so it has a lot more mass to move and 2) it had been damaged in the attack and wasn't operating at full capacity. How does that sound?
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Sounds about right.Thanks
ShippoTheFoxKid1983 4 years ago
Thanks! That's what's called pulling a rabbit out of your hat.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Wow, first time i've seen a connie separate, of course i've always known it to be possible. Heh, it looks like a ufo after separation
purpleplether 4 years ago
And they said there were no "flying saucers" in Star Trek! Glad you liked the video. Thanks for taking the time to write.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
NICE!!!...they need that in the new Trek film thats a reboot..so it's obvously startying over with that kind of enterprise,it owuldb e about time to show that kind of class of starship in the old trek's to have that kind of ability like the galaxy class :D
coolnatt 4 years ago
I'm glad you liked it. I don't think the new movie will be as much of a "reboot" as some people think, but it would be cool to see the TOS Constitution Class pull off a saucer separation.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
It would be interesting to see the saucer land. Supposedly there are landing skids and a ramp that can drop from the saucer in Probert's design.
My only critique of the separation sequence is that, realistically, the explosive bolts should blow simultaneously, and the saucer would probably make a straight full-impulse escape from the imminent warp breech rather than make a turn. You probably know that but went for dramatic effect.
MagicAlDF 4 years ago
I've thought about showing a saucer landing, but haven't worked out the logistics of it yet. As for the saucer turning, it actually didn't occur to me to have it escape in a straight line, but if you want to call it "dramatic effect," I'm okay with that. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Awesome! I too heard, except from my dad, that the Constitution could saucer separate, but they never did it in the series or movies. Great 3D Animation! :D
AACrashBurnAA 4 years ago
Thank you very much. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for writing.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
I'm glad we cleared that up. I really appreciate that you took the time to write. I enjoy getting messages from people who watch my videos. Thank you very much!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
In the storyboards for Star Trek The Motion Picture there is an emergancy saucer seperation because V'GER never really destroyed those Klingon battle cruisers so whats being shown here might of happended in the first Trek film lol! it was for a possible ending to the film.
Phaser120 4 years ago
Yep! I based this video on those storyboards (minus the Klingon attack). I hope you enjoyed it. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Correct. An emergency situation like the one I depict in the video. The saucer doesn't have warp drive, but it's an effective impulse-powered lifeboat if necessary.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
No, the refit Enterprise WAS designed so that the saucer can separate from the secondary hull in an emergency. It's in the technical specs by Andrew Probert (the man who designed the refit for The Motion Picture). A sequence showing this was even storyboarded for The Motion Picture, though it was never filmed. I based this video on those storyboards. I'm afraid your information is incorrect.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
It accidentally happened in Search for Spock... LOL this was cool.
Jimbothy 4 years ago
Actually, the saucer never separated from the secondary hull when the Enterprise was destroyed in Star Trek III. Come to think of it, maybe it should have. Good point. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Pretty cool, I remember they wanted to do a sequance of the Enterprise A seperating in the first movie but did'nt for some reason, budget I think. Would have been cool though.
JoeyLeafRunner 4 years ago
Yeah, the scene was storyboarded but never filmed. I based this scene on the one described for the film. Thanks for taking the time to write.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
Anytime, I'm a big fan of the original series.
JoeyLeafRunner 4 years ago
Me, too. Glad you enjoyed the video.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
seriously though, cool movie
cidertronic 4 years ago
Thanks, cidertronic. I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
WHOOP! WHOOP! NERD ALERT! NERD ALERT! shields to maximum power!
cidertronic 4 years ago
You make it sound like it's a bad thing. Not to split hairs, but I'm a geek, not a nerd.
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
This kind of reminds me of the novel, A Flagful Of Stars, because the saucer did separate in that, but I think the novel referred to it as "the command section"
musicalcaptain 4 years ago
The saucer is sometimes called the "command" section and the secondary hull is also called the "engineering" section. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 4 years ago
God bless the Enterprise refit/A
americancitizen76 5 years ago
...and her faithful crew! Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
I gave this vid 5 Stars! The Enterprise A is my all-time favorite version! I used to own Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise and I believe it mentioned the saucer seperation procedure. The saucer also has extendable landing legs and a drop-down planetary descent ramp. It could land on a planet but not take off again. At least it could land without crashing! *cough*EnterpriseD*cough* ;)
fixman88 5 years ago
Well, the Enterprise-D saucer was quite a bit larger than the Constitution saucer, so perhaps a slide-out landing was the best they could hope for. Glad you liked the video. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
Wow I think I just wet myself. I've always wondered what that would look like. Its a nice touch making it look like a once-only disconnecting mechanism.
pepe6666 5 years ago
It was always implied that if the saucer had to disconnect, it was a one-off procedure. Reconnection, if possible, had to be done at a starbase. Thanks for writing, pepe!
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
This is real nice work.I been trying to do some star trek animations myself but my problem is I can't seem to get the textures right.I can download the model on line but the program Im using won't import the texture right.The program I use is bryce 3d ver.5.
I know this is not the best program to use.
What program did you use?
tman1435 5 years ago
I use 3D Studio Max for my animations. It has it's own limitations regarding material maps, but it serves my purposes. I highly recommend giving it a try. Thanks for writng!
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
nice job on it. a couple of things. 1) I dont believe it would have happened that fast 2) It certainly wouldnt have made that sound when it seperated and 3) I know you probably used the stock sound for when the saucer was departing the drive section, but that was the warp sound, and as a star trek fan for life, i must point out that the fastest the saucer section could go is full impulse. I know this was just for seperation, but seeing Vger would have been AWESOME.
burr1aj 5 years ago
Wow! You really know you're stuff. I debated on the speed of the separation for a long time, finally deciding that faster was better since the ship was about to go BOOM. The "warp whoosh" sound effect was the only rapid fly-by sound in my archive at the time. I didn't think anyone would catch it. You just proved me wrong. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
no problem! there are a few other things that would differ had this been a real thing.. but i didnt want to piss you off with my ramblings and i actually do think you did a good job lol!
burr1aj 5 years ago
Thanks. I always appreciate constructive criticism and new ideas.
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
Very nice animation! You have a wonderful body of work... keep it up!
johnnyk67 5 years ago
Thanks! I appreciate it. Wait until you see some of the things I have planned for this year.
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
This was the nicest simulation I've seen! Nicely done, and keep us posted on new stuff
elusive1970 5 years ago
Thank you very much! I'm glad you liked it. You'll see more stuff here after the New Year, so keep watching!
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
This is why Star Trek is being reborn among the fans with computer skills- So many great concepts that had to be left on the drawing board are now possible. Thank you for this wonderful look into 'lost' Trek.
TheJorgSacul 5 years ago
Thank you for the wonderful compliment. I really appreciate that you took the time to write.
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
Nice work. Separation was hinted at as far back as the orginal series, with Kirk telling Scott to jettison the nacelles in "The Apple".
mdonfield 5 years ago
Yeah, Kirk said something about "cracking out of there with the main section" or something like that, but it was never really clear if he meant separating the saucer or jettisoning the warp engines. I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
Nicely done. I like that someone's finally made a saucer seapration for the Ent-A, it was originally designed to separate in one of the movies.
icon57 5 years ago
Thanks! Andrew Probert drew storyboards for a saucer separation sequence in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, but when the script was revised, that scene was dropped. I based this animation on the sequence he devised. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 5 years ago
Yes The Motion Picture.
tnsxbdyc 5 years ago
The Enterprise never looked better than it did in that movie. That's why I worked so hard to recreate its look here. Thanks for writing!
buckaroohawk 5 years ago