@jerico641 Well, yes I do hope that their will never be a WW3, but with tensions rising between the USA and Iran, i'm not saying they will go to war but if ever they did which i dont think would happen but anyway it their were a war between them it would probs start a ww3, so before the war would reach Canada, i'd go sign up and serve my US allies and my country.
I don't think the U.S. has much to worry about regarding Iran; it's a tiny country in the middle of the desert with no natural resources, rampant poverty and internal violence, and a vicious, medieval theocracy for a government. Trust me, we are in no danger from Iran, and if you believe that the U.S. and the United Nations will ever allow it to develop a nuclear weapon capable of striking the Western nations, you really need to think again. Please don't be fooled.
@jerico641 Well Iran has a lot of oil but anyway, I guess your right. And yea their govement is a total maniac who is corrpt, we should let the Iranians take him out themselves
@ThePimpycat You're brainwashed beyond belief. Go take him out then, go take a parachute and a gun and go over there and change the government yourself, don't advocate others to risk their bodies for some jewish ideology.
@Purplecatsoup30 Look, dumbfuck. Russia is mostly in Asia. How about you quit being such a damn, stereotypical american and act a bit more respectful.
@Edude117 yeah I fucking know that you loser shitball. The point is Russia has contaminated Europe. Therefore, they don't deserve to exist: nice real estate for German inhabited cities. You can keep some of the Russians around for working in the sewers.
@Purplecatsoup30 Would you be so kind as to explain explicitly how on Earth Russia is contaminating Europe. I don't want you to speak of the past. Right now, presently, how is Russia contaminating Europe?
@jericoparazo Well, except that in fact no. Recent studies have shown that unit engage in battle like Stalingrad lossed between 75% to 95% of their trooper in one or two weeks (No shit !!). The survivors were hardened killer tought and this could be alone considired like a tribute to their spirit of sacrifice. By example, from 13,200 men of the 13 infantry guard division led by Rodimtsev, only 312 made it alive by the end of the battle. :-/
@SkavenVideo It wasn't a question about being good - it was a question of the best military force ever created (in just a few years and built from ruins) coming full boar at you. All of the empires of Western Europe united were thrown into the sea in weeks. Eastern Europe was only spared the fate of Western Europe because of the enormous size of the USSR and because the German Army was being led by a fanatical politician living on Meth and other drugs & dying of Syphilis and Parkinson's disease.
@SkavenVideo And because the soldiers in the Red Army were more fanatical then those of the other Allied forces - but this was in large part do to the totalitarian nature of the USSR under Stalinism & the fact that there entire units dedicated to executing anyone who wasn't fanatical enough to fight the Germans - but it was also because of Russian Nationalism and the horrible fate that would come to everyone in the USSR if they lost & tens of millions had already been killed by Stalin before WW2
Wow, Ive never actually heard of this film until now...came across it looking up details on the medal from which it gets its name. Looks interesting, especially the apparently authentic equipment used.
Although I'm from allied heritage, its important to realise that certain people on *all* sides of the conflict were involved in atrocities, and there were also those on all sides who were very honorable and decent. Better to learn the lessons of the past, not prolong the old hatreds, imo.
@Wolfenkrieger learn your history- from the invasion of france captured british soldiers (East Kents) were murdered by German soldiers onwards- Hitler gave order all Brit commandos to be killed when captured even the Great Escape film is based on truth- they were killed by Germans as for the Eastern front and Poland- very bad -watch Come and See (Russian film) to see how bad they were - the death camps? were they allied propaganda too?
why is there a dummy in the tank? The Russian were not as brutal as I thought. They just lost millions of automated tank dummies instead of humans. I find that very touching....I was wrong all this time. Stalin was nice.
@ImperialGuard9001 re read it in its context and you may see the funny side....you are a dummy for believing that Stalin used dummies (as per the film if you look closer). Then you will understand the context of the statement....dont be so bloody narrow minded and myopic....
"It is now said that the Allies never helped us . . . However, one cannot deny that the Americans gave us so much material, without which we could not have formed our reserves and COULD NOT HAVE CONTINUED THE WAR . . . we had no explosives and powder. There was none to equip rifle bullets. The Americans
actually came to our assistance with powder and explosives."
плохому танцору всегда что-то мешает... В данном случае, то зима внезапно началась, то топливо кончилось, то боеприпасы не подвезли. Нахер вообще начинать было?
if they had focused on defeating the brits before messing up with the soviets, germans may have had a better chance in the eastern front, but the ussr would have grown stronger while they focused on the brits, so no matter what they do, it was their fate to lose the war.
No totaly wrong if the germans wouldnt draw americans into the war in europe (by attacking their warships to england) and making peace with britain, they would be able to concentrate 100% on the eastern front and Hitler didnt listen to his Generals who knew things beter than him, Hitler refues and draw back for refreshment of troops so the frontline just died out as you could see in Stalingrad.
@JSLegoMaster well, in one thing we both agree, if germans had focused on either of their fronts, they may had a better chance, but i still think that soviets made a bigger effort, just my opinion, and your opinion is diferent, anyway, aren´t we both glad the axis lost the war?
Yes I am glad they lost it of course. I dont say anyone is better as the other however, If we look at it just objective and forget who murderd 9 million people in KZ we can se the russians simply won because of their massive manpower of course some russians were extremley good figthers but the russian officers just sent wawe after wave to the front, if the firt 5 waves all die, well doesnt matter cuz we still have a wawe of 10 armies. Thats the russians officers tactic afetr stalingrad all in al
@JSLegoMaster i could´nt have said it better man!, yeah manpower made it for the soviets, and the allies made their part too, but doesn´t matter where they where from, they were brave man and suffered the same!!!
"Kill! Kill! In the German race there is nothing but evil; not one among the living, not one among the yet unborn but is evil! Follow the precepts of Comrade Stalin. Stamp out the fascist beast once and for all in its lair! Use force and break the racial pride of these German women. Take them as your lawful booty. Kill! As you storm onward, kill, you gallant soldiers of the Red Army." —Jewish Soviet propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg, to Soviet soldiers upon entering Germany in 1945
@irvinemuscles Einzgruppen, sorry bad spelling :), they were a branch of the SS who did not fight in the front lines like the Waffen SS but liquidated Russian civilians, unkown to the army. This was so German civilians could move into Russian land and start farming it for Germany. Not very nice people
@Tinchle21 That's fucked up. Hitler did some bad shit and I don't agree with a lot of his decisions. Killing innocent people is totally wrong and led to his downfall. Great speaker and motivator though. One of the best ever.
It is wrong. But was a policy to make Germany great. As said the German nation was oblivious to it and only found out about it after the war. However remember Stalin killed 30 million of his OWN people before the war because of his repressions. 10 millions of his own civilians died as a result of his policies during the war. In fact Stalin killed millions more of his own people that Hitler or any Einzgruppen
@Tinchle21 Well I for one cant say Stalin killed more people than any other leader but he was crazed in keeping power he couldn't even trust a kitten in the 40's he killed people to keep communism alive (in his way), In conclusion a better man than Hitler who mostly killed people for their race, religion, ideology, way of life, etc when the war was coming to a close he razed what was left of Germany and its economy because of a belief he had in 'Glorious victory or climactic death in defeat'
@Tinchle21 Sorry. Much as i respect the German military it is pointless to maintain that they didn't know about the Einzatzgruppen. Those fine fellows were tasked with waxing Jews, Communists and other "anti-social" elements. It was determined that decent men couldn't really handle the job - had to stay drunk and then had breakdowns - prompting Himmler to turn to poison gas and to employ Ukrainian and other auxiliarys later. Manstein, Hoth and others were up to their necks in it.
@Tinchle21 German Army also did some atrocidies more than Eiztngruppen but who cares realy? Were the Soviet American or British armies anny different? OF COURSE NOT! Wars are brutal even today British and Americans comite atrocidies in their war scenarios all over world and all is supressed!
I wish more American/European WWII focused on the Eastern Front. That theater alone contributed to the massive death toll of WWII. But sadly most of my fellow Americans just say "HURR D-DAY SAVED THE WORLD".
@THEJACKAL09 And the bombing campaign had a larger affect than ever admitted in the west wierdly. Listen to german leadership comments after the war, especially speer and you get a good picture. Both US and UK bombing campaigns disrupted a lot of industry by 42 onwards and soaked up vast amounts of luftwaffe that would have been facing russians. Also AA guns. When bombing stopped about 1 month from end, those guns were used as AT against russians tanks and losses skyrocketed around berlin.
In my opinion it depends for what cause you fight, if you fight againts tirany or oppresion if you fight againts just cause then you can call glory to our veterans if you fight for political causes or country interes like in Vietnam then you cant really feel glorious or proud of yourself, this is the diffrence between Vietnam and WW2, for what are we fighting?
@NEMESIS1999 Agree. Moral high ground has a wierd effect. Something that US definately did not have in Iraq, despite Sadam being a turd, and in Afghanistan the original reasons are all now lost and muddled. Is it a civil war now? Who is the Taliban nowdays? Afghan, Pakistani, foreign arabs? Does anyone there want democracy or do they just want to be left alone with their opium crop?
@pretorious700 I partially disagree. War is in many ways dreadful, but I fought in a war and I'm proud of myself and my comrades. Ultimately though, war is the opposite of 'survival of the fittest," the best die and one side loses (both sides really) and it all around sucks. One has but to study the holocauast of WWI and the dreadful consequence (i.e. WWII) to know how crazy it is to have these wars. Europe is changed for ever - but I doubt the victors are cheering too loudly.
i have one of those field caps but its the ss one and it doesnt have the eagle just the skull,very good it seems with the flecktarn jacket for going around with friends
@strudel89 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (catches breath) HAHAHAHAH XD "for going around with friends" do that here and you would be killed by angry mobs wielding torches and pitchforks ^^ but seriously you crack me up
and where the fuck do you live in the "were ashamed of ourselves" land?buddy as well as the german helmet,(currently in fashion between the bikers),this field cap is like having i dont know some bad guy´s military cap,i cant still get why everytime you see a 40s uniform in germany all these people want to chop each others heads,Lemmy Kilmister was almost sent to jail because he was wearing one of those ss hats in germany,i dont know but thats stupid,not even the russians do that
@strudel89 I'm not the least bit ashamed of my heritage i'm referring to the skull and bones sybol on your cap. SS- Divisions
like the SS divison totenkopf where responsible for the most massacres
commited by germans during wwII. totenkopf units where also guards in konzentration camps and that's why those units are despicable and wearing their symbols is disgraceful. If you didnt know what these units did look up
2nd tank division das reich Oradour-sur-Glane just to name one among many
@CrazyKraut20 The massacres of British POWS by the Waffen SS at Wormhout and Le Paradis in 1940 as well as executions of Allied POWs during the battle of Normandy and the massacre of US POWs at Malmedy in December 1944.
@JimbobHarrigan1984 Wars are brutal the Allies also massacred POWs and Civs but we never see them as "Evil Guys" I wonder why... If Germany had won even if they bombed NY to hell people today would see Germans as ultimate heroic figures
@strudel89 sending people to jail because they wear such clothes is another thing if someone feels the need to express himself in such a way he should be free to do it because it should be part of his personal liberty and as long as he isn't all in my face about it i wouldn't care much and i was exaturating with the angry mob remark but 95% of all people would give you killer looks some might even beat you up (wich is ironically fascist behaviour XD but wth)
i dont know but in the us if you wear america military vietnam era stuff you get flowers,if you glorify the russian soldiers who fought in ww2 you are congratulated not to mention they killed around 91% of all the german prisoners they caught,they killed many civilians and raped a lot of german women,by the way i know about these divisions i almost wrote a book about that,most of that info keeps changing i dont know if its because is controlled by the american media
@strudel89 Its in western books and media. The rape of germany is well documented nowdays. A lot of it was actually whipped up by the russian heirarchy to get men to fight in 44-45 with high losses, and it got out of control. There were several cases of russian pow nurses who were liberated, then raped.
From someone who has served in an infantry unit, many of the scenes in this movie are very realistically portrayed, unlike most Hollywood war flicks. The patrol scene at the start is especially well staged.
if germany hadnt been held up in crete and yogoslovia russia would have fell to the wermacht before their winter took full affect they got to moscows doorstep and ran out of supplies they had the the commies if hitler hadnt been so arogant
no need for what-if scenario's. There are plenty of moments in time when the war could've turned out very differently. Let's be thankfull fascism was destroyed and mourn the loss of live during WWII.
A stunning film by Peckinpah. I remember seeing it in NYC with a friend shortly after it was released. We decided to stay in the theater and see it twice in a row. Never done that before or since.
I believe this was the first look at the hell on the eastern front for us in the US. Before this movie the "Russian front' , was were Sgt. Schultz from "Hogans Heros" was always being threatened with. As this was a comedy show it could not have been all bad, right?
i remember renting this film and being so disppointed that it wasnt in german. i was genuinely hoping to have heard it spoken in german that when i saw english credits roll at the beginning i instantly began to like it less. still a class film though, my own immaturity aside
The Iron Cross is the only War Movie where German Soldiers don't act stupid or look real ugly like the English War Movies or some other Bullshit. This Movie shows like it really was.Great American Movie just like the Bridge of Arnhem.
Again, you obviously know nothing of the economic situation of Germany post WWI. Becasue that memo was sent to Lord Boothby in response to a letter received by Lord Boothby from Edward VIII. In this letter from Edward VIII it talks about Hitler's ambition to bring the arms sector under state control therefore giving the government more production power and being able to ship more weapons abroa to Germany's allies. Something the author of that book failed to mention.
Germany obviously "declared" war when the Germans faked the Gleiwitz incident. When this occured, Germany attacked the following day. Therefore a formal declaration of war was not needed becasue forces of one side had already begun to a) occupy the opposing nation's territory b) supress enemy resistance. Therefore, you are the idiot as you fail to understand how the war played out in the beginning at all. If you think that Germany didn't deserve WW2, you are a retard.
Also, your "money" plea is a load of garbage. That memo was in regards to the State controlled market Hitler wished to enact on the arms production sector. If money was the real reason, Britain and France would have declared war on Germany after the re-militarization of the Rheinland, or the anschluss with Austria.
If you think that, you are an idiot. The Germans declared war on Poland (an Allied country formally in August) therefore by declaring war on Poland Germany indeed brought war with Britain and France upon itself.
They were at war with Poland for 3 days before the French and Brtis declared war on Germany, which knew that invading Poland would bring a conflict with Britain and France
i barely see movies were the germans are the main characters. usualy movies of ww2 are about the americans or someone else always fighting against the germans. they should make more movies of the german side of things
The Germans in world war two did a lot of horrible things, with and without orders, but nevertheless, they died for their country, just like their Russian, American, and British enemies, and diserve to be remembered with respect.
No that is a German soldier (Steiner) using the Russian weapon. All sides used captured weapons against each other from time to time. In the film, Steiner's unit is often used on scouting missions so they would often get access to Russian weapons & ammo.
viel zu viel pathos! ich fürchte, die wahrheit vor ort war viel schlichter und grausamer - der film gibt das leider nicht wider - letztendlich unterhaltsam, aber nicht wirklich real - fast schon wie ein kriegsmärchen...
This was kind of the first modern war movie, the first one with modern looking battle scenes was Dr.Strangelove. Kind of provided a respite to John Wayne slurring his way through the Green Berets.
Are those tank traps at the beginning made out of sugar?
TheCoalescent 1 week ago
Did youtube take all copies of this movie down
xxDrGrinchxx 1 month ago
I would have for sure signed up for the army during WW2 for my country. And if their is a WW3 i will go directly to sign up for the Canadian Army
ThePimpycat 3 months ago
@ThePimpycat
We all better hope that there is no WW3; if there is, it'll be over and you'll be dead before you can set foot out of your house...
jerico641 2 weeks ago
@jerico641 Well, yes I do hope that their will never be a WW3, but with tensions rising between the USA and Iran, i'm not saying they will go to war but if ever they did which i dont think would happen but anyway it their were a war between them it would probs start a ww3, so before the war would reach Canada, i'd go sign up and serve my US allies and my country.
ThePimpycat 2 weeks ago
@ThePimpycat
I don't think the U.S. has much to worry about regarding Iran; it's a tiny country in the middle of the desert with no natural resources, rampant poverty and internal violence, and a vicious, medieval theocracy for a government. Trust me, we are in no danger from Iran, and if you believe that the U.S. and the United Nations will ever allow it to develop a nuclear weapon capable of striking the Western nations, you really need to think again. Please don't be fooled.
jerico641 2 weeks ago
@jerico641 Well Iran has a lot of oil but anyway, I guess your right. And yea their govement is a total maniac who is corrpt, we should let the Iranians take him out themselves
ThePimpycat 2 weeks ago
@ThePimpycat You're brainwashed beyond belief. Go take him out then, go take a parachute and a gun and go over there and change the government yourself, don't advocate others to risk their bodies for some jewish ideology.
nomorenigsplease 1 week ago
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FUCK YOU RUSSIA I HATE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU ARE. WISH YOU WERE GREATER LEBENSRAUM.
Purplecatsoup30 4 months ago
@Purplecatsoup30 There is something wrong with you...
Edude117 3 weeks ago
@Edude117 no, I don't think so. There's something wrong with Europe. Oh wait - Russia is over there.
Purplecatsoup30 3 weeks ago
@Purplecatsoup30 Look, dumbfuck. Russia is mostly in Asia. How about you quit being such a damn, stereotypical american and act a bit more respectful.
Edude117 3 weeks ago
@Edude117 yeah I fucking know that you loser shitball. The point is Russia has contaminated Europe. Therefore, they don't deserve to exist: nice real estate for German inhabited cities. You can keep some of the Russians around for working in the sewers.
Purplecatsoup30 3 weeks ago
@Purplecatsoup30 Would you be so kind as to explain explicitly how on Earth Russia is contaminating Europe. I don't want you to speak of the past. Right now, presently, how is Russia contaminating Europe?
Edude117 3 weeks ago
@jericoparazo Well, except that in fact no. Recent studies have shown that unit engage in battle like Stalingrad lossed between 75% to 95% of their trooper in one or two weeks (No shit !!). The survivors were hardened killer tought and this could be alone considired like a tribute to their spirit of sacrifice. By example, from 13,200 men of the 13 infantry guard division led by Rodimtsev, only 312 made it alive by the end of the battle. :-/
SkavenVideo 4 months ago
@jericoparazo Yup, but it happened frequently, as soviet infantry weren't very good at this time. (Except Guard and paratrooper unit.)
SkavenVideo 5 months ago
@SkavenVideo It wasn't a question about being good - it was a question of the best military force ever created (in just a few years and built from ruins) coming full boar at you. All of the empires of Western Europe united were thrown into the sea in weeks. Eastern Europe was only spared the fate of Western Europe because of the enormous size of the USSR and because the German Army was being led by a fanatical politician living on Meth and other drugs & dying of Syphilis and Parkinson's disease.
HumanActivitySystem 1 month ago
@SkavenVideo And because the soldiers in the Red Army were more fanatical then those of the other Allied forces - but this was in large part do to the totalitarian nature of the USSR under Stalinism & the fact that there entire units dedicated to executing anyone who wasn't fanatical enough to fight the Germans - but it was also because of Russian Nationalism and the horrible fate that would come to everyone in the USSR if they lost & tens of millions had already been killed by Stalin before WW2
HumanActivitySystem 1 month ago
@HumanActivitySystem
Well, they were fanatical also because Germany had invaded their country in 1941, destroyed cities, and killed scores of their people...
jerico641 2 weeks ago
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The ulimate aim for a soldier, sailor or an airman, is to be a pacifist...
Best lesson I have ever heard when I was in the forces.
yippitydodah 7 months ago
So, this is where Michael Bay got his inspiration, too bad he didn't have the talent.
ElTuco84 7 months ago 2
random slow motion hip shooting crap
zackhanscom 7 months ago
too fake
zackhanscom 7 months ago
Finally, a film from the perspective of the Germans all we need is a newer version...
wcerule77 8 months ago
@wcerule77 If you want to see more WW2 films from the perspective of the Germans, look up "Stalingrad", "Das Boot", and "Downfall".
TheV100 6 months ago 2
Wow, Ive never actually heard of this film until now...came across it looking up details on the medal from which it gets its name. Looks interesting, especially the apparently authentic equipment used.
Although I'm from allied heritage, its important to realise that certain people on *all* sides of the conflict were involved in atrocities, and there were also those on all sides who were very honorable and decent. Better to learn the lessons of the past, not prolong the old hatreds, imo.
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BrisVegas09 8 months ago
@Wolfenkrieger learn your history- from the invasion of france captured british soldiers (East Kents) were murdered by German soldiers onwards- Hitler gave order all Brit commandos to be killed when captured even the Great Escape film is based on truth- they were killed by Germans as for the Eastern front and Poland- very bad -watch Come and See (Russian film) to see how bad they were - the death camps? were they allied propaganda too?
philosophyteacher 8 months ago
excelent cinematography for a movie of that age
Necroman666 8 months ago
this was filmed in yugoslavia? right?
EuromanMovieReport 9 months ago
no cgi here men, a proper film.
kebabtank 9 months ago
Was "steiners" parka in camouflage or that gray?
norseleague 10 months ago
prefer to see james coburn speaking in english, thanks
RavingInATractor 10 months ago
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RavingInATractor 10 months ago
T-34 EPIC WINNERS OF WWII
BassLoverDude 10 months ago
why is there a dummy in the tank? The Russian were not as brutal as I thought. They just lost millions of automated tank dummies instead of humans. I find that very touching....I was wrong all this time. Stalin was nice.
PJ3love 1 year ago
@PJ3love Stalin was nice? He just slaugther milions of his own people and even friends and party members you find that Nice?
ImperialGuard9001 10 months ago
@ImperialGuard9001 re read it in its context and you may see the funny side....you are a dummy for believing that Stalin used dummies (as per the film if you look closer). Then you will understand the context of the statement....dont be so bloody narrow minded and myopic....
PJ3love 10 months ago
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Zhukov:
"It is now said that the Allies never helped us . . . However, one cannot deny that the Americans gave us so much material, without which we could not have formed our reserves and COULD NOT HAVE CONTINUED THE WAR . . . we had no explosives and powder. There was none to equip rifle bullets. The Americans
actually came to our assistance with powder and explosives."
tranmere789 1 year ago
Is it just me or the tank was push all the tanks traps away?
makemap 1 year ago
плохому танцору всегда что-то мешает... В данном случае, то зима внезапно началась, то топливо кончилось, то боеприпасы не подвезли. Нахер вообще начинать было?
zhaboid 1 year ago
плохому танцору всегда что-то мешает... В данном случае, то зима внезапно началась, то топливо кончилось, то боеприпасы не подвезли.
zhaboid 1 year ago
0:56 mine with surprise
leecooper9911 1 year ago
if they had focused on defeating the brits before messing up with the soviets, germans may have had a better chance in the eastern front, but the ussr would have grown stronger while they focused on the brits, so no matter what they do, it was their fate to lose the war.
rod3067 1 year ago
No totaly wrong if the germans wouldnt draw americans into the war in europe (by attacking their warships to england) and making peace with britain, they would be able to concentrate 100% on the eastern front and Hitler didnt listen to his Generals who knew things beter than him, Hitler refues and draw back for refreshment of troops so the frontline just died out as you could see in Stalingrad.
JSLegoMaster 1 year ago
@JSLegoMaster well, in one thing we both agree, if germans had focused on either of their fronts, they may had a better chance, but i still think that soviets made a bigger effort, just my opinion, and your opinion is diferent, anyway, aren´t we both glad the axis lost the war?
rod3067 1 year ago
Yes I am glad they lost it of course. I dont say anyone is better as the other however, If we look at it just objective and forget who murderd 9 million people in KZ we can se the russians simply won because of their massive manpower of course some russians were extremley good figthers but the russian officers just sent wawe after wave to the front, if the firt 5 waves all die, well doesnt matter cuz we still have a wawe of 10 armies. Thats the russians officers tactic afetr stalingrad all in al
JSLegoMaster 1 year ago
@JSLegoMaster i could´nt have said it better man!, yeah manpower made it for the soviets, and the allies made their part too, but doesn´t matter where they where from, they were brave man and suffered the same!!!
rod3067 1 year ago
Day-to-day life on the Finnish front, except that we didn't retreat.
SH67 1 year ago
@SH67 How inappropriate....this has nothing to do with the Winter War.
Great movie, fantastic classic.
p616arsley 1 year ago
@p616arsley Winter War?????????? Go check the statistics of Karelian front in 1944.
SH67 1 year ago
@SH67 lol, don't flatter yourself sweetheart
BossHossGT500 1 year ago
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"Kill! Kill! In the German race there is nothing but evil; not one among the living, not one among the yet unborn but is evil! Follow the precepts of Comrade Stalin. Stamp out the fascist beast once and for all in its lair! Use force and break the racial pride of these German women. Take them as your lawful booty. Kill! As you storm onward, kill, you gallant soldiers of the Red Army." —Jewish Soviet propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg, to Soviet soldiers upon entering Germany in 1945
docwillems 1 year ago
If anyone doesnt mind me asking, what exact battle was this movie based on?
Kantachi1 1 year ago
@Kantachi1 Takes place when the Soviet's forced the Germans Taman Peninsula.
Badfish93 1 year ago
James Couburn and Maximillian Shell played the part of Germans well.
irvinemuscles 1 year ago
I'm fond of the German army, but hated their war crimes and atrocities against innocent women and children
irvinemuscles 1 year ago
German army didnt carry out many atrocities against women and children. The Eizgruppen ss were responsible for that
Tinchle21 1 year ago 20
@Tinchle21 What's the Eizgruppen?
irvinemuscles 1 year ago
@irvinemuscles Einzgruppen, sorry bad spelling :), they were a branch of the SS who did not fight in the front lines like the Waffen SS but liquidated Russian civilians, unkown to the army. This was so German civilians could move into Russian land and start farming it for Germany. Not very nice people
Tinchle21 1 year ago
@Tinchle21 That's fucked up. Hitler did some bad shit and I don't agree with a lot of his decisions. Killing innocent people is totally wrong and led to his downfall. Great speaker and motivator though. One of the best ever.
irvinemuscles 1 year ago
It is wrong. But was a policy to make Germany great. As said the German nation was oblivious to it and only found out about it after the war. However remember Stalin killed 30 million of his OWN people before the war because of his repressions. 10 millions of his own civilians died as a result of his policies during the war. In fact Stalin killed millions more of his own people that Hitler or any Einzgruppen
Tinchle21 1 year ago
@Tinchle21 Well I for one cant say Stalin killed more people than any other leader but he was crazed in keeping power he couldn't even trust a kitten in the 40's he killed people to keep communism alive (in his way), In conclusion a better man than Hitler who mostly killed people for their race, religion, ideology, way of life, etc when the war was coming to a close he razed what was left of Germany and its economy because of a belief he had in 'Glorious victory or climactic death in defeat'
MrFrostmourne1 1 year ago
@Tinchle21 Sorry. Much as i respect the German military it is pointless to maintain that they didn't know about the Einzatzgruppen. Those fine fellows were tasked with waxing Jews, Communists and other "anti-social" elements. It was determined that decent men couldn't really handle the job - had to stay drunk and then had breakdowns - prompting Himmler to turn to poison gas and to employ Ukrainian and other auxiliarys later. Manstein, Hoth and others were up to their necks in it.
michaelpeirce 1 year ago
That's true,but those "SS" were German army also...
OrthodoxSerbia 8 months ago
@Tinchle21
0xYurix0 7 months ago
@Tinchle21 true, they also made the ss get drunk before doing that.
pkidro 5 months ago
@Tinchle21 German Army also did some atrocidies more than Eiztngruppen but who cares realy? Were the Soviet American or British armies anny different? OF COURSE NOT! Wars are brutal even today British and Americans comite atrocidies in their war scenarios all over world and all is supressed!
ImperialGuard9001 5 months ago
@ImperialGuard9001 You are correct, I am less naive now :)
Tinchle21 5 months ago
I wish more American/European WWII focused on the Eastern Front. That theater alone contributed to the massive death toll of WWII. But sadly most of my fellow Americans just say "HURR D-DAY SAVED THE WORLD".
THEJACKAL09 1 year ago
@THEJACKAL09 And the bombing campaign had a larger affect than ever admitted in the west wierdly. Listen to german leadership comments after the war, especially speer and you get a good picture. Both US and UK bombing campaigns disrupted a lot of industry by 42 onwards and soaked up vast amounts of luftwaffe that would have been facing russians. Also AA guns. When bombing stopped about 1 month from end, those guns were used as AT against russians tanks and losses skyrocketed around berlin.
DumbYankies 1 year ago
Very true although out of the 50million that died in the war, 20 million that died were chinese... we do hardly anything about that.
Tinchle21 1 year ago
Anyone who has served in battle knows in their heart there is no "glory" in war.
pretorious700 1 year ago
@pretorious700
In my opinion it depends for what cause you fight, if you fight againts tirany or oppresion if you fight againts just cause then you can call glory to our veterans if you fight for political causes or country interes like in Vietnam then you cant really feel glorious or proud of yourself, this is the diffrence between Vietnam and WW2, for what are we fighting?
NEMESIS1999 1 year ago
@NEMESIS1999 Agree. Moral high ground has a wierd effect. Something that US definately did not have in Iraq, despite Sadam being a turd, and in Afghanistan the original reasons are all now lost and muddled. Is it a civil war now? Who is the Taliban nowdays? Afghan, Pakistani, foreign arabs? Does anyone there want democracy or do they just want to be left alone with their opium crop?
DumbYankies 1 year ago
@pretorious700 I partially disagree. War is in many ways dreadful, but I fought in a war and I'm proud of myself and my comrades. Ultimately though, war is the opposite of 'survival of the fittest," the best die and one side loses (both sides really) and it all around sucks. One has but to study the holocauast of WWI and the dreadful consequence (i.e. WWII) to know how crazy it is to have these wars. Europe is changed for ever - but I doubt the victors are cheering too loudly.
michaelpeirce 1 year ago
Wird der Film aus Sicht der Deutschen oder Amis gezeigt?
diabolo1234504 1 year ago
@diabolo1234504 Von der deutschen Seite
rjbonacolta 1 year ago
i have one of those field caps but its the ss one and it doesnt have the eagle just the skull,very good it seems with the flecktarn jacket for going around with friends
strudel89 1 year ago
@strudel89 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (catches breath) HAHAHAHAH XD "for going around with friends" do that here and you would be killed by angry mobs wielding torches and pitchforks ^^ but seriously you crack me up
CrazyKraut20 1 year ago
and where the fuck do you live in the "were ashamed of ourselves" land?buddy as well as the german helmet,(currently in fashion between the bikers),this field cap is like having i dont know some bad guy´s military cap,i cant still get why everytime you see a 40s uniform in germany all these people want to chop each others heads,Lemmy Kilmister was almost sent to jail because he was wearing one of those ss hats in germany,i dont know but thats stupid,not even the russians do that
strudel89 1 year ago
@strudel89 I'm not the least bit ashamed of my heritage i'm referring to the skull and bones sybol on your cap. SS- Divisions
like the SS divison totenkopf where responsible for the most massacres
commited by germans during wwII. totenkopf units where also guards in konzentration camps and that's why those units are despicable and wearing their symbols is disgraceful. If you didnt know what these units did look up
2nd tank division das reich Oradour-sur-Glane just to name one among many
CrazyKraut20 1 year ago
@CrazyKraut20 The massacres of British POWS by the Waffen SS at Wormhout and Le Paradis in 1940 as well as executions of Allied POWs during the battle of Normandy and the massacre of US POWs at Malmedy in December 1944.
JimbobHarrigan1984 1 year ago
@JimbobHarrigan1984 Wars are brutal the Allies also massacred POWs and Civs but we never see them as "Evil Guys" I wonder why... If Germany had won even if they bombed NY to hell people today would see Germans as ultimate heroic figures
ImperialGuard9001 10 months ago 4
@strudel89 sending people to jail because they wear such clothes is another thing if someone feels the need to express himself in such a way he should be free to do it because it should be part of his personal liberty and as long as he isn't all in my face about it i wouldn't care much and i was exaturating with the angry mob remark but 95% of all people would give you killer looks some might even beat you up (wich is ironically fascist behaviour XD but wth)
CrazyKraut20 1 year ago
i dont know but in the us if you wear america military vietnam era stuff you get flowers,if you glorify the russian soldiers who fought in ww2 you are congratulated not to mention they killed around 91% of all the german prisoners they caught,they killed many civilians and raped a lot of german women,by the way i know about these divisions i almost wrote a book about that,most of that info keeps changing i dont know if its because is controlled by the american media
strudel89 1 year ago
@strudel89 Its in western books and media. The rape of germany is well documented nowdays. A lot of it was actually whipped up by the russian heirarchy to get men to fight in 44-45 with high losses, and it got out of control. There were several cases of russian pow nurses who were liberated, then raped.
DumbYankies 1 year ago
From someone who has served in an infantry unit, many of the scenes in this movie are very realistically portrayed, unlike most Hollywood war flicks. The patrol scene at the start is especially well staged.
bjdon99 1 year ago
Achja. Steiner. Den habe ich schon lange nicht mehr gesehen. Schade das Coburn nicht mehr im 2.Teil dabei war.
SuperSkeptiker 1 year ago
if germany hadnt been held up in crete and yogoslovia russia would have fell to the wermacht before their winter took full affect they got to moscows doorstep and ran out of supplies they had the the commies if hitler hadnt been so arogant
91soonerdude1 1 year ago
@91soonerdude1
no need for what-if scenario's. There are plenty of moments in time when the war could've turned out very differently. Let's be thankfull fascism was destroyed and mourn the loss of live during WWII.
MrMeter 1 year ago
"Pretty stong meat there from **SNIFF**, Sam Pekinpah"! -AFilm Critc (and will you STOP sniffing!)
edwoodjr2003 1 year ago
Excellent film, it's good to see the Boche slotting lots of dirty Ivans.
donlogan69 2 years ago
I have a Kuban medal on my camouflage smock...., fashioned from a Zeltbahn...
DonMeaker 2 years ago
@DonMeaker Fantastic!
donlogan69 1 year ago
cheesy
zillsbury 2 years ago
A stunning film by Peckinpah. I remember seeing it in NYC with a friend shortly after it was released. We decided to stay in the theater and see it twice in a row. Never done that before or since.
alebertfama 2 years ago 26
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MegaLeedavid 1 year ago
Too right!!!
Peckinpah was a true visionary genius!!!
It`s a damn shame the Hollywood studios kept fucking him over!!!
MegaLeedavid 1 year ago
Yeah, except the muzzle flashes look phony.
Rockinghorserider1 2 years ago
I believe this was the first look at the hell on the eastern front for us in the US. Before this movie the "Russian front' , was were Sgt. Schultz from "Hogans Heros" was always being threatened with. As this was a comedy show it could not have been all bad, right?
pigmanobvious 2 years ago
lmao 3:10 - 3:14
MrSindari 2 years ago
It is always interesting to see WW2 from the other side.
Interested viewers may also enjoy "The Bridge," "Come and See," and "Fires on the Plain," for other perspectives.
witchman67 2 years ago 2
EUROPE FOR EUROPEANS
21StCenturyWarfare 2 years ago 2
One of the best ww2 war movies!
dualis777 2 years ago
@dualis777 You Sir are right.
addyr 2 years ago
i remember renting this film and being so disppointed that it wasnt in german. i was genuinely hoping to have heard it spoken in german that when i saw english credits roll at the beginning i instantly began to like it less. still a class film though, my own immaturity aside
CelticAndProud 2 years ago
really enjoy this film,depicts the horror of war really well,im no expert but the tanks,weapons and uniforms etc look really authentic.
2pikeman 2 years ago
They're pretty much all authentic, Sam Peckinpah always uses authentic elements in his films.
Badfish93 2 years ago
The Iron Cross is the only War Movie where German Soldiers don't act stupid or look real ugly like the English War Movies or some other Bullshit. This Movie shows like it really was.Great American Movie just like the Bridge of Arnhem.
eloypath 2 years ago 4
watch stalingrad- thats another. but yeah your right some hollywood movies insults the german soldiers.
SomeoneMustGetHurt 2 years ago 3
one example is indiana jones, the rest is most▐▐▐
Czaendermajer 2 years ago
the bridge of arnhem? do you mean a bridge to far? that is a british film. the americans were never at arnhem
cannibalcheese 2 years ago 2
Du hast mehr als nur recht , ich kann dir nur zustimmen ! Gibt n Daumen hoch von mir !
Gruß
MegaDanny1981 2 years ago 2
Another one that accurately depits the Germans is "Stalingrad."
HufflepuffTheGreat 2 years ago
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I think its kind of funny that all those jews got killed
nothing against jews in particular or anything
i mean i would think it interesting if a large group of anything was killed
but of course i wouldnt feel that way if i was included
so =[
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
Real T34/85 Tank and not a dodgy mock up / conversion. Well done Sam Peckinpah!
DirtySaltyBug 2 years ago 4
What does all this politicking have to do with the film?
witchman67 2 years ago
Again, you obviously know nothing of the economic situation of Germany post WWI. Becasue that memo was sent to Lord Boothby in response to a letter received by Lord Boothby from Edward VIII. In this letter from Edward VIII it talks about Hitler's ambition to bring the arms sector under state control therefore giving the government more production power and being able to ship more weapons abroa to Germany's allies. Something the author of that book failed to mention.
crazycamel345 2 years ago 2
Germany obviously "declared" war when the Germans faked the Gleiwitz incident. When this occured, Germany attacked the following day. Therefore a formal declaration of war was not needed becasue forces of one side had already begun to a) occupy the opposing nation's territory b) supress enemy resistance. Therefore, you are the idiot as you fail to understand how the war played out in the beginning at all. If you think that Germany didn't deserve WW2, you are a retard.
crazycamel345 2 years ago 3
This movie is Skinhead!
chairmcnasty 2 years ago
Hitler wanted Danzig cause it was pretty german. Just thought i'd add that!
chairmcnasty 2 years ago
Also, your "money" plea is a load of garbage. That memo was in regards to the State controlled market Hitler wished to enact on the arms production sector. If money was the real reason, Britain and France would have declared war on Germany after the re-militarization of the Rheinland, or the anschluss with Austria.
crazycamel345 2 years ago 2
If you think that, you are an idiot. The Germans declared war on Poland (an Allied country formally in August) therefore by declaring war on Poland Germany indeed brought war with Britain and France upon itself.
crazycamel345 2 years ago 4
The Allies then proceeded to throw Poland under the bus by letting the Iron Curtain fall over Europe.
wrath231 2 years ago
Not quite entirely true.
Stalin, lying filth that he was, had guarenteed free elections in Russian occupied areas.
Read the agreement. It's all written down.
Russians ain't like westerners--they're are asians and think more like the duplicitous Japs.
oysterjoe 2 years ago
The Reich didn't start any war??
They were at war with Poland for 3 days before the French and Brtis declared war on Germany, which knew that invading Poland would bring a conflict with Britain and France
Jaihadist 2 years ago
The reason y they declared war is because the Reich invaded Poland.
Jaihadist 2 years ago
Skullchaser8 : I'll check it out.
But basucally Hitler started the war in Europe
Jaihadist 2 years ago 3
Great film but there's no way a T34 would demolish a concrete anti tank obstacle by just driving into it!
Jerseybob 2 years ago
thew best part was at 2:58
insanefreak1000 2 years ago
i agree with below this was one of the best ever war films made the german soldiers didnt want to be there they werent all bad
SouthDownIPLO 2 years ago
agreed, but the only people who wnated the war was Hitler and his buddies( inlcuding the other Axis leaders) and the arms manufacturers
Jaihadist 2 years ago
Forgot the USSR's invasion of Finland?
JayyJayy45 2 years ago
what about Japan's invasion of China 1937??
SteveSpicerPortsmuth 2 years ago 3
i barely see movies were the germans are the main characters. usualy movies of ww2 are about the americans or someone else always fighting against the germans. they should make more movies of the german side of things
1945Ace1 2 years ago 3
Only good communist is a converted or dead one!..,,Commies bring misery!
junglewalk 2 years ago
nazis bring a lot more misery in only 5 years than commies in 50
there's a reason the allies sided with the less bad system, a nazi world is insane
get it mr nazi?
WASPTexas 2 years ago 5
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only a dead german is a good one
BomberDomme 2 years ago
The Hurt Locker.
Phillies64 2 years ago
Germany and the USA should have teamed up and wiped Russia off the face of the Earth
gopconservative78 2 years ago
NO!!! All nations should team up to wipe WAR off the face of the Earth.
dingane19 2 years ago 4
they didn't want to side with freedom hating nazis one bit
besides germany and the USA were teamed up during the cold war? still no wiping out done
get real you hateful nut
go there yourself and see what happens
WASPTexas 2 years ago 5
haha he said realistic.
RagdollPhysics 2 years ago
Everyone dies.Chosen the moment seems to be valiant.
nordhorncon 2 years ago
2:58 lol how conveniently precise.
nubilepro 2 years ago 2
The Germans in world war two did a lot of horrible things, with and without orders, but nevertheless, they died for their country, just like their Russian, American, and British enemies, and diserve to be remembered with respect.
toby4700 2 years ago
wait at 1:40 is that a russian shooting another russian cuz the both have russia subs.
dock534 2 years ago
No that is a German soldier (Steiner) using the Russian weapon. All sides used captured weapons against each other from time to time. In the film, Steiner's unit is often used on scouting missions so they would often get access to Russian weapons & ammo.
ivangrozny27 2 years ago
true some time you dont have a choice.
dock534 2 years ago
much better looking uniforms than everyone else...
tommoshuffle13 2 years ago 4
viel zu viel pathos! ich fürchte, die wahrheit vor ort war viel schlichter und grausamer - der film gibt das leider nicht wider - letztendlich unterhaltsam, aber nicht wirklich real - fast schon wie ein kriegsmärchen...
Delicator 2 years ago 4
Satlingrad schon gesehen?
het88zer 2 years ago
That must have taken some balls, to stand up to such a steel monster.
BlackTalon53 2 years ago
Dude, the worst enemy for a tank is CQB with infantry.
Its like it primary weakness.
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
Given, that infantry has any anti-tank weapons. UNLIKE the Germans here.
OkurkaBinLadin 2 years ago
anti-tank weapons were not always required pre-FSD era.
TheBlitz1 2 years ago
como se llama la pelicuca?
zahaladino 2 years ago
thats it you tough bastards! stand up against the ruski barbarian hordes
Nebelwerfer89 2 years ago
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this movie wack... you should see Saving Private Ryan ITS THE BEST MOVIE EVERRR
carlosalexanderperu 2 years ago
Is it possible to make a realistic war movie? I doubt it.
tranmere789 2 years ago 4
This was kind of the first modern war movie, the first one with modern looking battle scenes was Dr.Strangelove. Kind of provided a respite to John Wayne slurring his way through the Green Berets.
Thewonkandfriends 2 years ago
This is THE movie! There is not any movie like this
zolee700 3 years ago
Great action. But are the dragon teeth made out of plaster of paris?
ppsh43 3 years ago 2
Looks like it
Danny77uk 2 years ago
Your fellows are a little bit cracy, arn`t you! What a bulshit! Are you living in a cyberspace?
HR5308 3 years ago
the T-34 was like "whats up!! im a tank bitshs"
when it plowed into building he he
grodspc 3 years ago 5
lawl. i dont think shootin the tank with Mp40 submachine guns is a good way to stay alive/kill the tank
SMRBV 3 years ago 3