So it looks like youve looked at it from a religious and then historical perspective, but have you ever looked at some of the things you said from a psychological perspective?
IE look at cognitive biases, reasons why people have beliefs, why they are hard to change.
Debating the professor to harden your convictions == backfire effect.
i like how he compared his intellectual growth with speaking to atheists. i debate with many christians and they admit that arguing with me ends up making them more aware and knowledgeable, but truth be told, talking to them just makes me feel more stupid because I have to drop my rational to meet their low-level thoughts.
I just can't understand how people can hear voices in their heads and still be sane. The only voice I hear in my head is my own, sometime it says things like "look at the tits of this chick!", but it always seem to be sane. Does believing in some fictional story make you express symptoms of DID (dissociative identity disorder)?
@upisoft2 I don't know if christians experience DID when I was one I never had a "personal relationship." or even thought I did. but I sometimes felt very happy in worship so presumed it was god but when I realised I felt exactly the same on christmas morning it kind of lost that supernatural feeling. But we used to have prophecy assemblys before lunch when I went to school and most of them tended to contain food, one even had pizza in it (cheese, tomato and base were the 3 forms of god!!)
YOU ARE WAAAY TOO SIMILAR TO ME!! ARE YOU MY FUTURE SELF OR SOMETHING?? I TRIED TO MAKE A VIDEO GAME FOR GOD!! I WENT FOR COMPUTER SCIENCE!! AND I SEEK KNOWLEDGE!! WTH??
“YOU ARE WAAAY TOO SIMILAR TO ME!! ARE YOU MY FUTURE SELF OR SOMETHING?? I TRIED TO MAKE A VIDEO GAME FOR GOD!! I WENT FOR COMPUTER SCIENCE!! AND I SEEK KNOWLEDGE!! WTH??”
You have made a wise decision to seek knowledge. It doesn’t matter if you’re religious, non-religious, young or old, it remains a nobel quest. This is not an easy task, as a first step you can perhaps take an easier quest … buy a new caps-lock key.
@909pleasantville You mean like the god that, by your language, I am guessing you believe in, is gonna send you to hell for sinning? 1 Corinthians 13 "4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.
11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
So Mr. Pleasantville, you seem to have failed the love, and not dishonoring part of what Jesus commanded. Therefore, since you went against what Jesus said, you fail? Unless of course, you do not abide by these, in which case you were simply rude to a man stating his opinion in a peaceful, non-confrontational way.
if I understand you correctly, you used to have a "relationship with god", then flunked your statistics class and gave up on god. you poor thing. I've heard of young women who think that their favorite rock star is their soul mate, only to be crushed when they go to the concert and get ignored. The rock star doesn't even know who they are. They end up devasted. Like you. Poor thing.
@909pleasantville@909pleasantville You are clearly a close-minded brainwashed moron. You ignored all the prior videos where he had faith in God and justified God at every occasion. Go watch videos of finding Jesus in clouds instead of wasting your time here.
@909pleasantville Typical condescending, holier-than-thou, elitist "Christian" who doesn't give a rebuttal to any of his points. What was your intention for your comment, to insult him to the point of wanting to be more like you, or to just be an asshole who hates that people actually differ from you?
If it hurts your brain too much, nobody is forcing you to watch it.
you're voice hypnotizes me, if I knew you in real life..I'd be like "just talk, pic random words to read, it doesn't matter" lol. Love the videos so far, especially the one where you talked through emails with the professor.
Man, every video I find parallels to my own story. The love of technology. Desire to make a c0ool, high quality, Christian Video Game / Christian music. I'm on the edge of my seat for each video. :)
There needs to be a distinction between a true believer and a "Christian". The term Christian is too loosely thrown about to represent people that believe in God; yet not all have a relationship with Him. I know that he is claiming to have been a true believer, but somehow I can't wrap my head around how he could have had a relationship with God if he now believes there is no true God. I hope this doesn't push me down the stairs with his ignorant church friends, but it doesn't make sense.
@RachelS22287 I'm not quite sure I'm getting what you mean, but on the other hand I have never believed in god myself, so I'm not really an authority on the subject. But basically I think his position is that, however real and convincing this realtionship felt, it was something made up in his mind. The human mind is really, really complicated, and from a scientific perspective, however real it feels, such a relashionship is not that weird. Probably kind of close to the plazebo effect.
@mattegeniet It is hard for me to imagine living a life where I don't believe in God. I see God in everything I do. When you mention how complicated the human mind is; it makes me think just how great God is! I guess maybe I could understand what you are saying, but from my worldview, I do believe there is a God; therefore I believe that he never really had a relationship with God -- maybe he did "feel" like he did. To me if he now believes there is no God, than it seems impossible to
@RachelS22287 have you seen part 2 of this video, and 2.6 and 2.7 yet? If not, then I suggest you do, because he kind of addresses these issues, much better than I ever could.
@RachelS22287 I used to think like you until I had a child. Let me ask you this: If you had a son, would you tell him that he is supposed to be completely dependent on you? Would you tell him that everything he does is because it should please you? Would you tell him that if he did not please you, you would TORTURE him for ETERNITY? How would your son feel? How would other people feel about what you are telling your son?
@gaums My favourite example of why I don't believe in Christian god. I just say that if there is a loving god he will let me to heaven just on the basis of how I treated other (and normally I'd even say that every one would end up there anyway), not in the basis if a believed him or not. And then I add if there is such a god who judges people on the basis of who believes him and who doesn't I don't even want to follow him. I don't feel a urge to be able to explain everything so I choose atheism
I have a hypothesis that there is a connection between speaking in tongues, playing a solo in a jazz band, and faking an orgasm. I expect that the same parts of the brain are accessed in each case.
When I read comments about faith, and getting reassurance from the authoritative voice in your head, it reminds me of a trick I read about in a bicycle magazine: if you're having trouble getting uphill, imagine there are two giant rubber bands connected to the bike, pulling you uphill. Which, for me, is occasionally helpful. Now, if a person can get strength/support from something they KNOW is a figment of their imagination...
This documentary is depressing. Atheists try so hard to prove people that they're beliefs are wrong, even if those beliefs aren't hurting anyone. In some ways I think that Atheists are bigger dicks then Christians sometimes.
@Sethietoes12 So christians that tell atheists that they're going to burn forever and get threaten are not being dicks? Atheits are dicks, but in the proper timing. We don't go around and say "Fuck Jesus, I hate you stupid dillusional fuck" while christians do. I'm 16 and I was raised in muslim family, I love my parents, they're good but I don't believe in God or religion, I believe in doing what's morally right even though there is no heaven. Is that wrong? Why would God hate me then?
@Undergroundhiphoop Um yeah, tons of Atheists go around saying that. God doesn't hate anyone, and Christians aren't perfect, they can commit sin just like anyone else and threatening people that they're going to burn forever isn't right and isn't how Christians are taught or supposed to act.
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey The funny thing is all christians answer diffrent. I was talking to my friend yesterday and he said "I could sin, but my sins are forgiven because Jesus died for me" and etc. So I asked you mean if you killed someone you're still going to heaven? Everyone answer different. Atheist don't go to funerals where soldiers have been shot to death screaming God hates fags. The biggest dick is the Pope, he's responsible for starvation in many countries and deathcauses by AIDS.
@Undergroundhiphoop "all christians answer different".... that's a ridiculous statement, of course every one will respond differently. Everyone is different and has their own opinion and their own behavior. If you kill someone, and confess it and are truly sorry, repent and never do it again, then yes you'll go to heaven. And where's your proof against the pope? God doesn't hate anyone and he doesn't hate homosexuals, however such people will not enter Heaven unless they repent..
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey My proof against the Pope? Uhm, well maybe his speeches about prohobiting condoms and genetically produced food because that's not Gods creation. If God doesn't hate anyone, how come he flooded the earth and killed millions if not billions of people after flooding the earth? Everyone is different, but their faith is the SAME and their faith one tells ONE story, how come nobody knows that story and make up shit of their own? Genesis 9:6, there is no repenting. Read the book.
@Undergroundhiphoop The reason he wanted to prohibit condoms is because people shouldn't be having sex with tons of people, if they didn't do that they wouldn't get AIDS and STDs . Just because their faith is the same doesn't mean people can't fall into sin and do things that their faith teaches otherwise. There was no repenting because the people didn't WANT to repent, if God didn't flood the world than the evil that had already corrupted all of the world would remain there would be no good
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey Do you really think the world was that corrupt? How corrupt could a world be if one man has to drown it? You think small babies were corrupt? Virgins? And why wouldn't people have sex? Sex is beautiful. And no, the reason was that condoms were preventing LIFE to happen, the gift of God to happen. That was the reason. "Aids is a disease, but not worse of a disease than condoms." Is that MORAL? Read your Bible, it says kill children if they curse at their parents ffs.
@Undergroundhiphoop Sex is a beautiful thing in marriage, having it just for the sake of your own greed and pleasure isn't, which is the main reason people use condoms. The Bible never says to kill children if they curse at their parents...
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey Sex is not beautiful in marriage, not always and not most of the time. People use condoms so that they don't get babies or diseases. You don't believe me about the killing your children thing? Well, read Exodus 21:17. And you know what, don't be shocked, there are much much MUCH more of this in the Bible.
P.S, that was God talking to Moses saying that. Again, READ YOUR BIBLE FFS. In the first book God lies and kills millions of people. Get a grip on reality.
@Undergroundhiphoop So when you have sex with the women you love and are married to its not beautiful? But if you go around doing it with every slut in the city it is? People use condoms because they only are having sex for their own pleasure, sex isn't there for our own lustful desires, its for reproduction. People wouldn't have AIDs if it wasn't for homosexuals and if they didn't have sex with a ton of people. Its their own fault that they get diseases.
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey I said not ALWAYS. Married people stop having lots of sex and then they divorce. And just because you lie with a woman it doesn't mean she's a slut. And to origin of AIDS is not because of homosexuals, are you crazy? It's not know but it is believed that HIV crossed the species barrier from primates to humans at some time during the twentieth century. Not by a man and a man having sex. Homosexuality is normal and exist in nature. How brainwashed are you kid?
@Undergroundhiphoop You also said not most of the time. AIDS were originally spread by homosexuals, and no homosexuality isn't normal and in nature -,-. The whole point of marriage is to stay together, people shouldn't be getting divorced. When two people just have sex outside of marriage they usually go on and have sex with other people as well, sounds very slut-ish to me.
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey How come then there are gay animals such as dogs of almost all kind, giraffes, almost every kind of bird and etc? Why would God create gay animals?
So tell me, what did you think of Exodus 21:17? Did it crush the fairytale you live in? That God is good and great?
@Undergroundhiphoop Exodus 21:17 is talking about a spiritual death, it's not saying that if your kid curses at you you should kill him. You truly have little understanding of the Bible and the way it is written. It was listing out many sins, such as cursing your parents. Ever thought that animals can be lustful and perverted just as humans can? If homosexuality was natural why are there male and females? Why don't humans and animals reproduce a-sexualy, or bisexually, if it was 'natural'
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey "You truly have little understanding of the Bible and the way it is written." Every 'kind/pleasant' injunction is literal, every 'callous/unpleasant' one is metaphorical. /watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o
@strangestdude Did I say every unpleasant injunction is metaphorical? No, there are quite a few unpleasant things in the Bible. You have no idea what Christians believe in or how the Bible is meant to be understood.
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey I was being facetious. Do you think that the graphic and horrific warnings against disobedience found in Deuteronomy 28:15-68, is compatible with an all-compassionate and all-loving God?
@strangestdude Deuteronomy focused on the law of God, if Israel chose to obey God, He wanted complete obedience from them. Even before God gave His law through Mosses, there were already man-made laws that were just as strict against such things. So why should man be more obedient to his country than to his God?
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey Man is fallible and capable of great cruelty, but God is supposedly all-compassionate, and all-powerful. So you don't think that there is anything inherently incompatible with the attribute of all-compassion with Deut 28:59 "the LORD will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses."
@strangestdude Do not even fathers who love their children punish them? It's the same thing for God, He punishes His children for disobedience, arrogance, and sins.
Also how do unkind acts show that God is not all-powerful?
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey Surely god should be more loving than a human parent, and the only parents who would inflict such suffering on their children are sociopaths, who quite rightly have their children taken away from them. When you put the attributes of omnibenevolence and omnipotence together, and then read Deut 28:15-68, it's clear God has the power to forgive mankind for their transgressions, but won't even though that contradicts omnibenevolence - just like the concept of hell does.
@strangestdude God has the power to forgive mankind for their transgressions, but will only if we ask for His forgiveness. God is more loving than a human parent and I was only giving an example of a father punishing his child, as its a similar concept as God punishing mankind.
@RachelS22287 Other humans autonomy. If my actions are benefitial to my friends and society then I know it's good. How could you call a God who has drowned every single living being on earth once (that story was taken out of Greek Mythology) and killed millions of people after that? And that includes children, innocents, viring etc. Have you even read the Bible? Even Jesus endores what God told Moses about cursing children should be put to death (Mark 7:19). Read your Bible ffs.
@Undergroundhiphoop I have read my Bible. I read it every night, and I couldn't tell you how many times I have read through it, in its entirety. I know that some of the killing does seem as if God is a very violent and uncaring God, but you have to look at the bigger picture. The whole Bible in, it's entirety. If you do than you witness the very Character of God. God is a jealous God for His people. He created us therefore, He wants us to live a life to please Him. If we live a life ...
@RachelS222877:10* The bigger picture? Is it okay to kill something you created just because it didn't turn out what you wanted? If you have children and they happend to like rock music instead of church rap or whatever, would you kill them? The bigger picture is that man created God of his own image. Besides, isn't a punishment as getting kicked out of Eden and punish the humans forever a bit to much for doing something as eating a forbidden apple?
though he likes to fuck with his people if they moan about not having enough food, weather it's in numbers or 1940s Germany ;) Holocaust is god's way of getting lulz just like smothering jews in bird shit in numbers was or sending an army of snakes to try wiping them out or enslaving them in babylon or...well the list goes on. god treats his "chosen people" (who we're not, the racist bastard only likes hebes...except in john) so what will he treat us gentile dogs like?
that explanation could make sense IF god isn't omniscient, omnipotent, or benevolent. those enable god to do everything he supposedly achieved in the bigger context, without causing so much suffering or evil. Plus the whole 'he made us to pleasure him' thing seems a little egotistical. His character is different from book to book (natural sine they were written so far apart) to the point it doesn't seem the same god - same goes for jesus and Paul too.
if it applies to the bible it must apply to the history god guides too - so slavery, empire, genocides, wars, plagues and economic depressions were all 'part of his plan' and good 'in the wider context' of history. While I've seen explanations of the 'context' in the wider bible.... it really doesn't fit with theology and require god to be incompetent to not be evil, or to just be one god among many and specifically the god of the jews.
@Undergroundhiphoop that is in total rejection of Him, then he does pour out his wrath on us. If you did read the Bible in its entirety you would see that God doesn't want to pour out His wrath on us. God wants for us to live a life pleasing to Him, but it us that continue to reject Him. I will never be able to convince you of God's love for us out of my own ability. It is the Holy Spirit that does this. I pray that the Holy Spirit will begin revealing Himself to you.
@Sethietoes12 Because it can be depressing when losing your faith, certainly it was for me. Choosing to wake up can be very hard and is filled with self doubt.
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What is this demonic bullshit-any dickhead can make a claim-prove it i say-what group do you belong to-Anything created demands a Creator and as the book you once apparently loved says-Only a Fool has said there is no God-take a look around you for goodness sake-big bang-organic soup anyone-get a life and get real man:
@Kreature8888 Thanks for your reply -its probably best to read my comment one bit at a time and when you see the little dash then pause and think.However at the end of the day all i was trying to say was that anyone can say anything they want but i have found that on close examination most of it is just rubbish.The bible is the most scrutinised text in the world and most of the points made in these silly videos are from people who have very little knowledge of its contents-all the best:
You know that feeling you got when you knew you had to let go of Santa Claus because no matter how late you stayed up he never came...and never would. Yeah... I felt silly then also.
@chicarbiomed I know exactly what you mean! It has been about three years now from that time that I finally turned away from Christianity and I feel better than ever! I don't need to think about going to hell or not, because such place doesn't exist. I did have doubt at first but now I'm sure of the path I have chosen. It all started when I finally realized that why this one religion is some how better than others and now I just view religion as tool to control people. I don't judge any one!
That feeling you describe toward the end of the video is exactly what compelled me to continue pursuing information until I was completely devoid of faith.
I've never been a Christian (being from England where the majority of people are not religious). The thing i've never understood is why should one go to hell purely because they are a non-believer? You could follow every moral expressed in the bible and you'd still go to hell because you don't believe in the existence of god. To me that doesn't make sense, surely a good person should be forgiven and sorry to be so in-articulate, but it makes god sound like an egotistical dickhead.
@Jasonmyways You are so right. If he created the world and everyone and everything in it, why is he so judgmental about his creation? He seems to be looking for excuses to send you to hell. All Christians talk to non-Christians in a condescending way. Some even tell me upfront that unless I get baptized, I'm going to be left behind. I had someone tell me that the Tsunami hit Japan because it's a nation of non-believers!
@Jasonmyways You are so right. If he created the world and everyone and everything in it, why is he so judgmental about his creation? He seems to be looking for excuses to send you to hell. All Christians talk to non-Christians in a condescending way. Some even tell me upfront that unless I get baptized, I'm going to be left behind. I had someone tell me that the Tsunami hit Japan because it's a nation of non-believers!
...explanations, like when you spoke of the Challenger accident like it was supposed to mean something, but said nothing, or when you spoke of morals and ethics but failed to say what morals or ethics your teacher challenged you with. Or how Schroder's book was disproved because he was speaking outside of his expertise.
I'm gonna watch the rest of your videos, to see if there is something tangible there, so far, you seem to be a good storyteller, and an evangelical preaching to the converted.
@mongoingo I think the reason why he seems to be better at storytelling then preaching is because he's telling a story and not preaching, If you're talking about why you don't believe something anymore of course you're going to go over the things that convinced you, it doesn't necessarily mean you're trying to convince anyone else. Is it really so hard to believe that someone might just want to tell you about their experience without having an agenda?
I know he's telling the story of how he, ironically, found enlightenment by leaving religion, its not what I had an issue with. Its with the convenience and coincidental way he found his path, almost like a saint finding God. This series was actually recommended to me by an ex-Muslim friend who found it very helpful, and we're still debating this and the existence (or lack thereof) of God.
Does fee like being preached to, the music doesn't help either. Still watching them though
I've just watched 5 of your videos back to back (interesting hr that was!) and there is an arrogance that pervades your work, coupled with a inferiority complex. You want to be bigger than you are, you thought all your lilfe that you were the special one, although no one else seems to agree, other than the professor who feels that you alone of the Christian masses could understand beyond your years, the depth of what he said, and was conveniently an ex-missionary. You are vague in your....
I'm going to mash this all up in one video, then find a publisher, clearly explaining that I, in no way represent you, then this will be a documentary and everyone will love you.
Thank God all I need is my faith.. @Evid3nc3 try live your life in service and discover your answers helping others out. That is real christianity. Try living by faith in a 3rd world country as I am now. When you quit relying on your great philosophy and knoledge... I been like you before.. but not now. Thanks for posting this thou, it has helped a lot of people.
that was very interesting video i do understand it's a Deconversion video after all but you seems that not only you believed in Christianity before but everything you saw was through a Christian point of view and to the point where you actually tried to share your view to make others believe in it too, Seems like you were not only a Christian but a very deep in Christianity, i do not know how some people here even question that you were not a true Christian or not saved according to them.
@ TheHumanbeingHuman - How do you jump from "you will never know everything" to "trust in God"? Because one of those things we don't know is whether God even exists.
The idea of God is like vicious circle of poverty. Once you let it form in your mind, it feeds itself. It takes a fool and laziness to stumble to it, keep feeding it and it takes intellect and hard work to break out of it
we all die. thats truth! so it doesnt matter whether your the smartest scientist or the dumbest christian. Life is lived in faith! To all my christians, Have hope and keep the faith! To those of you who favor yourselves intellectuals, humble yourself. There are things you dont know. And your search is futile. you will never know everything. realize that its ok to have hope in God. its not beneath you. its above.
what is this path to atheism stuff? as if you will reach some level of knowledge that will mean something. in order to move from one belief to another you have to obtain new information. you are simply shifting your faith from one place to another. but its faith still... and that information is no more absolute truth than your next shift of faith. And what will you do with what you learn? will you not die? unless you belief nothing, you're placing your faith in something...
Your points are made from a false assumption. Atheism isn't a belief. It is not faith based. It is a rejection of claims made by those asserting that gods exist on the basis that they have not met their burden of proof. When you break it down, there is nothing to support the belief that supernatural anthropomorphic beings that manipulate reality from outside of it exist without faith.
I think the path to Atheism follows one of a few select paths where one questions, reads the Bible, comes across an older pagan version of a Biblical story, or one sees a discrepancy with the Bible and history or science and from there the quest begins. This is probably why so many of us see the exact same journey in our own lives from being religious to unbelief because preset path of sorts. If only more people saw this series.
I must agree with 'vanillasmile82' and others posting thumbs-up. Your "Deconversion" journey is so much similar to my own journey. It has truly been a strengthening and comforting video for me, after my terrible lonelyness during the three years when I let go of 'God's Hand'. After that terrible three years, I began building a new foundation based on Naturalism on which I could stand and face daily life.
This is an absolutely exceptional video series. The animations are a fantastic means of narrating without actual images... and are very clean and visually appealing. That, and what you talk about, despite being so personal, is very intriguing to hear about. I find your confidence in revealing these things to random people amazing.
This is the only video of yours where our stories significantly differ. I spent much of my youth in quiet frustration that God did NOT seem to talk to me. I was never able to discern between "divine guidance" and "my imagination," as you thought you could.
why disern? When I feel stuck, I take the challenge. I say if it's your will, it's your way. I just do nothing more. I continue to study, pray, and work. If I suceed then I will. If I don't then I don't. The point is to have faith, fight the fight, and finish the race.
@doublewhat It amazes me how often the story of Job is proclaimed by christians in a way to "attempt to show why being pious during trials is good". However, they fail to see how this story can be nothing more than an ignorant person's faulty beliefs, even being unaware that the story itself only shows their god as less than omniscient. It is "perfect" in that sense, . . . but I'm sure you'll disagree.
The discussion about "My Voice" and "God's voice" made me think... the voice authority is an effective way to propel oneself as if one is being lead by an external leader (in that case an all-powerful deity). Maybe this human trait of 'feeling external leadership from within' was an evolutionary advantage sometime in the past, that later lead to theism and religion. Of course, that trait is hardly of any use now, in this world full of knowledge.
@gininginin this makes alot of sense and i often find that sucess comes by hardened determination and refuseing to give in and this is much easier when you imagine that a authoritative figure within yourself is driveing you forward as such if something is hard you can simply imagine a voice saying you will not give up no matter what this could be confused with a god also thats pretty scarey since that voice could be influenced by other people so it could say suicide bomb the two towers.. scarey
I have to say, it kind of freaks me out that people really think they're doing "God's Will" in the sense described in the video. It hadn't really occurred to me that people actually looked at the world in this way until quite recently... and it's quite scary that people justify their day-to-day life as being a kind of pawn to a seemingly uncaring creator.
@symsee especially when this creator was shown to be a violent barbaric maniac in the old testament also hitler justified his actions as the will of the creator repeatedly in his journals and mein kmaft and well al-kaeda convinced some people that god wanted them to fly a plane into a building and well....thats really scarey
at first i was only interested in watching your personal history, and it didn't let me down this far. but in this episode, it sent me goose bumps all over. i'm currently studying computer science myself, was an unbeliever for my whole live, but i can clearly relate to your feeling of hollowness when it comes to learning statistics or math in general, those exams are the biggest challenges in my life this far.
heads up, your profile doesn't have these videos able to be viewed, so they are a bit harder to get at than just having them all in a list... it is interesting to hear what you went through, thank you for the share :D
What's weird to me is when this guy said he spoke in "tongues" but never explained what languages, I mean is he refurring to speaking gibberish or actual languages in the world that he never studied. In the bible it explained that when the diciples spoke in tongues they were actually speaking greek, latin, spanish etc. without studying such languages because the holy spirit gave them that gift. I heard arecent true story were someone recieved that supernatural gift after praying to the Trinity.
@starsheild7 You shan't talk about literacy, linguistics, and tongues when you spout these misinformed views. "Tongues" means a different dialect, not language. Almost anyone can easily speak with a British or Russian accent if they grew up with English. It isn't supernatural. Don't undermine the power of the human brain.
For those who feel their christian life is becoming "hollow", share the good news (gospel) with others. That will definitely jolt your walk with Jesus.
@preachinshawn Been there, done that. Actually, that's probably what Evid3nc3 was doing here- more or less. He approached atheists and debated them. When my faith ran dry, I myself spent a week in New Jersey at a missions chapel.
I became an atheist afterward. Sharing the gospel isn't going to be the magic shot of holy water that revives a faith that can no longer support itself when crushed by available evidence. If you can't defend it with reason, the faith is worthless.
@preachinshawn You mean the "good news" that according to your book, they're very likely destined for eternal punishment. I fail to see how that brings anything other than hollowness to one's life.
@preachinshawn I would start at the first video in this series and work your way through. The author has made it painfully clear that he tried this over and over again while bits and pieces of his faith network crumbled away. This far into his journey, it really looks like it's way too late to lift his spirits by prosthelytizing a little, especially when he's finding it difficult to find reasons to believe it's even true.
Just to clarify, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines belief as, "...an emotional acceptance of some proposition, statement or doctrine." So I'd have to say that, at the time, he really did believe. Changing his mind (or his belief system) is the very essence of having free will.
@vanillasmile82 Ditto, my friend. It is quite amazing how similar these paths are. Thank you Evid3nc3, finally a well informed peaceful presentation of the deconstruction of an ancient mindset. Kudos.
@vanillasmile82 My friend said this as well. While I can see some similarities between Evid's path and my own, my destination remains undetermined, and I've never felt the need to bring science and religion into harmony; I am not a scientist, and I am not impressed by science. This isn't an attack on you - it's me connecting my response to your comment with a comment I would have made somewhere regardless.
Evid3nc3 makes several references to "speaking in tongues". Although I've seen videos of this, I've never really understood what this meant generally, or personally to the believer. Can someone explain this to me? Does the believer think they are divining/channeling someone/something? Does he/she believe this "tongue" is a genuine ancient language? Or is it just cathartic babbling? How does the believer reconcile the varying "tongues" spoken by different people? Thoughts?
@pmf8 Speaking in tongues is babbling, but in ancient times when people traveled very little and had no audio recordings of foreign languages, those who spoke in tongues claimed they were genuine, legitimate languages. They claimed god gave them the ability to speak in other languages. Now we know it's all horse-hockey, but a few "preachers" still do it, though no longer claiming it's a real language.
@Evid3nc3 After dealing with your delusion of grandeur as a christian, was it difficult to cope with the realization that you weren't indeed a person of special importance?
Fantastic. Very brave to share.
thespacemonk 3 days ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
Conclusion: Trolling the internet can truly open peoples minds. Just like the professor did in his amazon review commentary
JohnnyKidder 5 days ago
@JohnnyKidder .......you might want to have the professor's resume and knowledge base before doing that.......
SobolewskiKing 3 days ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
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@Evid3nc3 Was that you at 4:00 ?
grsadr 5 days ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
Was that you at 4:00
grsadr 5 days ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
So it looks like youve looked at it from a religious and then historical perspective, but have you ever looked at some of the things you said from a psychological perspective?
IE look at cognitive biases, reasons why people have beliefs, why they are hard to change.
Debating the professor to harden your convictions == backfire effect.
Confirmation bias from praying.
Etc etc
kittyloaf 1 week ago
i like how he compared his intellectual growth with speaking to atheists. i debate with many christians and they admit that arguing with me ends up making them more aware and knowledgeable, but truth be told, talking to them just makes me feel more stupid because I have to drop my rational to meet their low-level thoughts.
flatulentperdition 2 weeks ago
Powerful story.... great narration bro
nickfranky 3 weeks ago
im slightly confused with the ending. u wud prove to him that god was real?
cocoman12345678910 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
I just can't understand how people can hear voices in their heads and still be sane. The only voice I hear in my head is my own, sometime it says things like "look at the tits of this chick!", but it always seem to be sane. Does believing in some fictional story make you express symptoms of DID (dissociative identity disorder)?
upisoft2 1 month ago
@upisoft2 I don't know if christians experience DID when I was one I never had a "personal relationship." or even thought I did. but I sometimes felt very happy in worship so presumed it was god but when I realised I felt exactly the same on christmas morning it kind of lost that supernatural feeling. But we used to have prophecy assemblys before lunch when I went to school and most of them tended to contain food, one even had pizza in it (cheese, tomato and base were the 3 forms of god!!)
mancno1 2 weeks ago
YOU ARE WAAAY TOO SIMILAR TO ME!! ARE YOU MY FUTURE SELF OR SOMETHING?? I TRIED TO MAKE A VIDEO GAME FOR GOD!! I WENT FOR COMPUTER SCIENCE!! AND I SEEK KNOWLEDGE!! WTH??
Raymond0412Tube 1 month ago
@Raymond0412Tube
“YOU ARE WAAAY TOO SIMILAR TO ME!! ARE YOU MY FUTURE SELF OR SOMETHING?? I TRIED TO MAKE A VIDEO GAME FOR GOD!! I WENT FOR COMPUTER SCIENCE!! AND I SEEK KNOWLEDGE!! WTH??”
You have made a wise decision to seek knowledge. It doesn’t matter if you’re religious, non-religious, young or old, it remains a nobel quest. This is not an easy task, as a first step you can perhaps take an easier quest … buy a new caps-lock key.
GapWim 2 weeks ago 2
If this series had more views, the world would be a better place.
prezoftheworld 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian 31
This is the first time I don't feel like your telling my story. This is weird to me. Maybe the fact you were AoG and I was not a charismatic.
DrunknShooter 1 month ago
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@909pleasantville You mean like the god that, by your language, I am guessing you believe in, is gonna send you to hell for sinning? 1 Corinthians 13 "4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
BenMcMillan20 1 month ago
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.
BenMcMillan20 1 month ago
11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
BenMcMillan20 1 month ago
So Mr. Pleasantville, you seem to have failed the love, and not dishonoring part of what Jesus commanded. Therefore, since you went against what Jesus said, you fail? Unless of course, you do not abide by these, in which case you were simply rude to a man stating his opinion in a peaceful, non-confrontational way.
BenMcMillan20 1 month ago
Where can i find the music to these series? :d
DeadGiveawayBeats 2 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
fucking statistics!
iliketool 2 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
a comment to the part about talking to atheist. you can only stare into something for so long before you become it
TheRandomguy112 2 months ago
@TheRandomguy112 I guess reason and evidence don't count for anything then.
TheBiAtheist 2 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
if I understand you correctly, you used to have a "relationship with god", then flunked your statistics class and gave up on god. you poor thing. I've heard of young women who think that their favorite rock star is their soul mate, only to be crushed when they go to the concert and get ignored. The rock star doesn't even know who they are. They end up devasted. Like you. Poor thing.
909pleasantville 3 months ago
@909pleasantville @909pleasantville You are clearly a close-minded brainwashed moron. You ignored all the prior videos where he had faith in God and justified God at every occasion. Go watch videos of finding Jesus in clouds instead of wasting your time here.
saritajakhere 3 months ago
@909pleasantville
Were you paying attention to the video at all?
cloud4an 3 months ago
@909pleasantville Typical condescending, holier-than-thou, elitist "Christian" who doesn't give a rebuttal to any of his points. What was your intention for your comment, to insult him to the point of wanting to be more like you, or to just be an asshole who hates that people actually differ from you?
If it hurts your brain too much, nobody is forcing you to watch it.
TheBiAtheist 2 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
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BenMcMillan20 1 month ago
what is the name of the creator of this video
meadpro 4 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
you're voice hypnotizes me, if I knew you in real life..I'd be like "just talk, pic random words to read, it doesn't matter" lol. Love the videos so far, especially the one where you talked through emails with the professor.
BMReaves1 5 months ago
Man, every video I find parallels to my own story. The love of technology. Desire to make a c0ool, high quality, Christian Video Game / Christian music. I'm on the edge of my seat for each video. :)
StevenCasteel 5 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
There needs to be a distinction between a true believer and a "Christian". The term Christian is too loosely thrown about to represent people that believe in God; yet not all have a relationship with Him. I know that he is claiming to have been a true believer, but somehow I can't wrap my head around how he could have had a relationship with God if he now believes there is no true God. I hope this doesn't push me down the stairs with his ignorant church friends, but it doesn't make sense.
RachelS22287 5 months ago
@RachelS22287 I'm not quite sure I'm getting what you mean, but on the other hand I have never believed in god myself, so I'm not really an authority on the subject. But basically I think his position is that, however real and convincing this realtionship felt, it was something made up in his mind. The human mind is really, really complicated, and from a scientific perspective, however real it feels, such a relashionship is not that weird. Probably kind of close to the plazebo effect.
mattegeniet 5 months ago
@mattegeniet It is hard for me to imagine living a life where I don't believe in God. I see God in everything I do. When you mention how complicated the human mind is; it makes me think just how great God is! I guess maybe I could understand what you are saying, but from my worldview, I do believe there is a God; therefore I believe that he never really had a relationship with God -- maybe he did "feel" like he did. To me if he now believes there is no God, than it seems impossible to
RachelS22287 5 months ago
@RachelS22287 have you seen part 2 of this video, and 2.6 and 2.7 yet? If not, then I suggest you do, because he kind of addresses these issues, much better than I ever could.
mattegeniet 5 months ago
@RachelS22287 I used to think like you until I had a child. Let me ask you this: If you had a son, would you tell him that he is supposed to be completely dependent on you? Would you tell him that everything he does is because it should please you? Would you tell him that if he did not please you, you would TORTURE him for ETERNITY? How would your son feel? How would other people feel about what you are telling your son?
gaums 4 months ago 46
@gaums My favourite example of why I don't believe in Christian god. I just say that if there is a loving god he will let me to heaven just on the basis of how I treated other (and normally I'd even say that every one would end up there anyway), not in the basis if a believed him or not. And then I add if there is such a god who judges people on the basis of who believes him and who doesn't I don't even want to follow him. I don't feel a urge to be able to explain everything so I choose atheism
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RachelS22287 5 months ago
I have a hypothesis that there is a connection between speaking in tongues, playing a solo in a jazz band, and faking an orgasm. I expect that the same parts of the brain are accessed in each case.
SSJ3Ulcer 6 months ago
When I read comments about faith, and getting reassurance from the authoritative voice in your head, it reminds me of a trick I read about in a bicycle magazine: if you're having trouble getting uphill, imagine there are two giant rubber bands connected to the bike, pulling you uphill. Which, for me, is occasionally helpful. Now, if a person can get strength/support from something they KNOW is a figment of their imagination...
felixthehuman 6 months ago
5:05 Why would you have been a FEMALE missonary? :P
tologna 7 months ago
Soo... good
iliveon 7 months ago
this gradation started at 2004 at age 8 to 2010 at age 14.
thrillzonevideos 7 months ago
This documentary is depressing. Atheists try so hard to prove people that they're beliefs are wrong, even if those beliefs aren't hurting anyone. In some ways I think that Atheists are bigger dicks then Christians sometimes.
Sethietoes12 7 months ago
@Sethietoes12 So christians that tell atheists that they're going to burn forever and get threaten are not being dicks? Atheits are dicks, but in the proper timing. We don't go around and say "Fuck Jesus, I hate you stupid dillusional fuck" while christians do. I'm 16 and I was raised in muslim family, I love my parents, they're good but I don't believe in God or religion, I believe in doing what's morally right even though there is no heaven. Is that wrong? Why would God hate me then?
Undergroundhiphoop 6 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
@Undergroundhiphoop Um yeah, tons of Atheists go around saying that. God doesn't hate anyone, and Christians aren't perfect, they can commit sin just like anyone else and threatening people that they're going to burn forever isn't right and isn't how Christians are taught or supposed to act.
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey The funny thing is all christians answer diffrent. I was talking to my friend yesterday and he said "I could sin, but my sins are forgiven because Jesus died for me" and etc. So I asked you mean if you killed someone you're still going to heaven? Everyone answer different. Atheist don't go to funerals where soldiers have been shot to death screaming God hates fags. The biggest dick is the Pope, he's responsible for starvation in many countries and deathcauses by AIDS.
Undergroundhiphoop 6 months ago
@Undergroundhiphoop "all christians answer different".... that's a ridiculous statement, of course every one will respond differently. Everyone is different and has their own opinion and their own behavior. If you kill someone, and confess it and are truly sorry, repent and never do it again, then yes you'll go to heaven. And where's your proof against the pope? God doesn't hate anyone and he doesn't hate homosexuals, however such people will not enter Heaven unless they repent..
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey My proof against the Pope? Uhm, well maybe his speeches about prohobiting condoms and genetically produced food because that's not Gods creation. If God doesn't hate anyone, how come he flooded the earth and killed millions if not billions of people after flooding the earth? Everyone is different, but their faith is the SAME and their faith one tells ONE story, how come nobody knows that story and make up shit of their own? Genesis 9:6, there is no repenting. Read the book.
Undergroundhiphoop 6 months ago
@Undergroundhiphoop The reason he wanted to prohibit condoms is because people shouldn't be having sex with tons of people, if they didn't do that they wouldn't get AIDS and STDs . Just because their faith is the same doesn't mean people can't fall into sin and do things that their faith teaches otherwise. There was no repenting because the people didn't WANT to repent, if God didn't flood the world than the evil that had already corrupted all of the world would remain there would be no good
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey Do you really think the world was that corrupt? How corrupt could a world be if one man has to drown it? You think small babies were corrupt? Virgins? And why wouldn't people have sex? Sex is beautiful. And no, the reason was that condoms were preventing LIFE to happen, the gift of God to happen. That was the reason. "Aids is a disease, but not worse of a disease than condoms." Is that MORAL? Read your Bible, it says kill children if they curse at their parents ffs.
Undergroundhiphoop 6 months ago
@Undergroundhiphoop Sex is a beautiful thing in marriage, having it just for the sake of your own greed and pleasure isn't, which is the main reason people use condoms. The Bible never says to kill children if they curse at their parents...
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey Sex is not beautiful in marriage, not always and not most of the time. People use condoms so that they don't get babies or diseases. You don't believe me about the killing your children thing? Well, read Exodus 21:17. And you know what, don't be shocked, there are much much MUCH more of this in the Bible.
P.S, that was God talking to Moses saying that. Again, READ YOUR BIBLE FFS. In the first book God lies and kills millions of people. Get a grip on reality.
Undergroundhiphoop 6 months ago
@Undergroundhiphoop So when you have sex with the women you love and are married to its not beautiful? But if you go around doing it with every slut in the city it is? People use condoms because they only are having sex for their own pleasure, sex isn't there for our own lustful desires, its for reproduction. People wouldn't have AIDs if it wasn't for homosexuals and if they didn't have sex with a ton of people. Its their own fault that they get diseases.
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey I said not ALWAYS. Married people stop having lots of sex and then they divorce. And just because you lie with a woman it doesn't mean she's a slut. And to origin of AIDS is not because of homosexuals, are you crazy? It's not know but it is believed that HIV crossed the species barrier from primates to humans at some time during the twentieth century. Not by a man and a man having sex. Homosexuality is normal and exist in nature. How brainwashed are you kid?
Undergroundhiphoop 6 months ago
@Undergroundhiphoop You also said not most of the time. AIDS were originally spread by homosexuals, and no homosexuality isn't normal and in nature -,-. The whole point of marriage is to stay together, people shouldn't be getting divorced. When two people just have sex outside of marriage they usually go on and have sex with other people as well, sounds very slut-ish to me.
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey How come then there are gay animals such as dogs of almost all kind, giraffes, almost every kind of bird and etc? Why would God create gay animals?
So tell me, what did you think of Exodus 21:17? Did it crush the fairytale you live in? That God is good and great?
Undergroundhiphoop 6 months ago
@Undergroundhiphoop Exodus 21:17 is talking about a spiritual death, it's not saying that if your kid curses at you you should kill him. You truly have little understanding of the Bible and the way it is written. It was listing out many sins, such as cursing your parents. Ever thought that animals can be lustful and perverted just as humans can? If homosexuality was natural why are there male and females? Why don't humans and animals reproduce a-sexualy, or bisexually, if it was 'natural'
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey "You truly have little understanding of the Bible and the way it is written." Every 'kind/pleasant' injunction is literal, every 'callous/unpleasant' one is metaphorical. /watch?v=PK7P7uZFf5o
strangestdude 6 months ago
@strangestdude Did I say every unpleasant injunction is metaphorical? No, there are quite a few unpleasant things in the Bible. You have no idea what Christians believe in or how the Bible is meant to be understood.
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey I was being facetious. Do you think that the graphic and horrific warnings against disobedience found in Deuteronomy 28:15-68, is compatible with an all-compassionate and all-loving God?
strangestdude 6 months ago
@strangestdude Deuteronomy focused on the law of God, if Israel chose to obey God, He wanted complete obedience from them. Even before God gave His law through Mosses, there were already man-made laws that were just as strict against such things. So why should man be more obedient to his country than to his God?
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey Man is fallible and capable of great cruelty, but God is supposedly all-compassionate, and all-powerful. So you don't think that there is anything inherently incompatible with the attribute of all-compassion with Deut 28:59 "the LORD will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses."
strangestdude 6 months ago
@strangestdude Do not even fathers who love their children punish them? It's the same thing for God, He punishes His children for disobedience, arrogance, and sins.
Also how do unkind acts show that God is not all-powerful?
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@TheSuperGoldenMonkey Surely god should be more loving than a human parent, and the only parents who would inflict such suffering on their children are sociopaths, who quite rightly have their children taken away from them. When you put the attributes of omnibenevolence and omnipotence together, and then read Deut 28:15-68, it's clear God has the power to forgive mankind for their transgressions, but won't even though that contradicts omnibenevolence - just like the concept of hell does.
strangestdude 6 months ago
@strangestdude God has the power to forgive mankind for their transgressions, but will only if we ask for His forgiveness. God is more loving than a human parent and I was only giving an example of a father punishing his child, as its a similar concept as God punishing mankind.
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@strangestdude Not to mention the death of the soul (as in going to hell) isn't metaphorical and is even worse than a physical death.
TheSuperGoldenMonkey 6 months ago
@Undergroundhiphoop How do you know what is morally right? What is your standard for morality?
RachelS22287 5 months ago
@RachelS22287 Other humans autonomy. If my actions are benefitial to my friends and society then I know it's good. How could you call a God who has drowned every single living being on earth once (that story was taken out of Greek Mythology) and killed millions of people after that? And that includes children, innocents, viring etc. Have you even read the Bible? Even Jesus endores what God told Moses about cursing children should be put to death (Mark 7:19). Read your Bible ffs.
Undergroundhiphoop 5 months ago
@Undergroundhiphoop I have read my Bible. I read it every night, and I couldn't tell you how many times I have read through it, in its entirety. I know that some of the killing does seem as if God is a very violent and uncaring God, but you have to look at the bigger picture. The whole Bible in, it's entirety. If you do than you witness the very Character of God. God is a jealous God for His people. He created us therefore, He wants us to live a life to please Him. If we live a life ...
RachelS22287 5 months ago
@RachelS22287 7:10* The bigger picture? Is it okay to kill something you created just because it didn't turn out what you wanted? If you have children and they happend to like rock music instead of church rap or whatever, would you kill them? The bigger picture is that man created God of his own image. Besides, isn't a punishment as getting kicked out of Eden and punish the humans forever a bit to much for doing something as eating a forbidden apple?
Undergroundhiphoop 5 months ago
@RachelS22287
though he likes to fuck with his people if they moan about not having enough food, weather it's in numbers or 1940s Germany ;) Holocaust is god's way of getting lulz just like smothering jews in bird shit in numbers was or sending an army of snakes to try wiping them out or enslaving them in babylon or...well the list goes on. god treats his "chosen people" (who we're not, the racist bastard only likes hebes...except in john) so what will he treat us gentile dogs like?
unassumption 5 months ago
@RachelS22287
that explanation could make sense IF god isn't omniscient, omnipotent, or benevolent. those enable god to do everything he supposedly achieved in the bigger context, without causing so much suffering or evil. Plus the whole 'he made us to pleasure him' thing seems a little egotistical. His character is different from book to book (natural sine they were written so far apart) to the point it doesn't seem the same god - same goes for jesus and Paul too.
unassumption 5 months ago
@RachelS22287
if it applies to the bible it must apply to the history god guides too - so slavery, empire, genocides, wars, plagues and economic depressions were all 'part of his plan' and good 'in the wider context' of history. While I've seen explanations of the 'context' in the wider bible.... it really doesn't fit with theology and require god to be incompetent to not be evil, or to just be one god among many and specifically the god of the jews.
unassumption 5 months ago
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@Undergroundhiphoop that is in total rejection of Him, then he does pour out his wrath on us. If you did read the Bible in its entirety you would see that God doesn't want to pour out His wrath on us. God wants for us to live a life pleasing to Him, but it us that continue to reject Him. I will never be able to convince you of God's love for us out of my own ability. It is the Holy Spirit that does this. I pray that the Holy Spirit will begin revealing Himself to you.
RachelS22287 5 months ago
@Sethietoes12 Just because christianity doesn't hurt anyone... doesn't mean it can't be a false religion.
anticorncob6 3 months ago
@Sethietoes12 Because it can be depressing when losing your faith, certainly it was for me. Choosing to wake up can be very hard and is filled with self doubt.
manchesterfellow 1 month ago
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What is this demonic bullshit-any dickhead can make a claim-prove it i say-what group do you belong to-Anything created demands a Creator and as the book you once apparently loved says-Only a Fool has said there is no God-take a look around you for goodness sake-big bang-organic soup anyone-get a life and get real man:
MrTwisterband 7 months ago
@MrTwisterband to laugh at men of sense is the privelage of fools
hangtime9873 7 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
@MrTwisterband Your comments are hard to understand. Not logically hard but grammatically.
Kreature8888 7 months ago
@Kreature8888 Thanks for your reply -its probably best to read my comment one bit at a time and when you see the little dash then pause and think.However at the end of the day all i was trying to say was that anyone can say anything they want but i have found that on close examination most of it is just rubbish.The bible is the most scrutinised text in the world and most of the points made in these silly videos are from people who have very little knowledge of its contents-all the best:
MrTwisterband 7 months ago
You know that feeling you got when you knew you had to let go of Santa Claus because no matter how late you stayed up he never came...and never would. Yeah... I felt silly then also.
chicarbiomed 7 months ago 11
@chicarbiomed I know exactly what you mean! It has been about three years now from that time that I finally turned away from Christianity and I feel better than ever! I don't need to think about going to hell or not, because such place doesn't exist. I did have doubt at first but now I'm sure of the path I have chosen. It all started when I finally realized that why this one religion is some how better than others and now I just view religion as tool to control people. I don't judge any one!
santtu2007 1 month ago
Sigh, you sound like me, too. This video gave me chills.
Ledwix 8 months ago
That feeling you describe toward the end of the video is exactly what compelled me to continue pursuing information until I was completely devoid of faith.
Icemario87 8 months ago
if more christians were like you had been when you were one, the world would be a much nicer place.
taffysaur 8 months ago in playlist Evid3nc3's Playlist: Why I'm No Longer Christian 2
you are a weird christian..... this is not how christians are ....
cnauzlr 8 months ago
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@cnauzlr "you are a weird christian..... this is not how christians are ...." You probably have no idea how correct you are.
Druffmaul 8 months ago
@cnauzlr It's not? Please inform me on how they are
Zachdudeio2 8 months ago in playlist WA
I've never been a Christian (being from England where the majority of people are not religious). The thing i've never understood is why should one go to hell purely because they are a non-believer? You could follow every moral expressed in the bible and you'd still go to hell because you don't believe in the existence of god. To me that doesn't make sense, surely a good person should be forgiven and sorry to be so in-articulate, but it makes god sound like an egotistical dickhead.
Jasonmyways 9 months ago 47
@Jasonmyways You are so right. If he created the world and everyone and everything in it, why is he so judgmental about his creation? He seems to be looking for excuses to send you to hell. All Christians talk to non-Christians in a condescending way. Some even tell me upfront that unless I get baptized, I'm going to be left behind. I had someone tell me that the Tsunami hit Japan because it's a nation of non-believers!
thedielemma 3 months ago
@Jasonmyways You are so right. If he created the world and everyone and everything in it, why is he so judgmental about his creation? He seems to be looking for excuses to send you to hell. All Christians talk to non-Christians in a condescending way. Some even tell me upfront that unless I get baptized, I'm going to be left behind. I had someone tell me that the Tsunami hit Japan because it's a nation of non-believers!
thedielemma 3 months ago
...explanations, like when you spoke of the Challenger accident like it was supposed to mean something, but said nothing, or when you spoke of morals and ethics but failed to say what morals or ethics your teacher challenged you with. Or how Schroder's book was disproved because he was speaking outside of his expertise.
I'm gonna watch the rest of your videos, to see if there is something tangible there, so far, you seem to be a good storyteller, and an evangelical preaching to the converted.
mongoingo 9 months ago
@mongoingo I think the reason why he seems to be better at storytelling then preaching is because he's telling a story and not preaching, If you're talking about why you don't believe something anymore of course you're going to go over the things that convinced you, it doesn't necessarily mean you're trying to convince anyone else. Is it really so hard to believe that someone might just want to tell you about their experience without having an agenda?
HHHonoth 8 months ago 2
@HHHonoth
I know he's telling the story of how he, ironically, found enlightenment by leaving religion, its not what I had an issue with. Its with the convenience and coincidental way he found his path, almost like a saint finding God. This series was actually recommended to me by an ex-Muslim friend who found it very helpful, and we're still debating this and the existence (or lack thereof) of God.
Does fee like being preached to, the music doesn't help either. Still watching them though
mongoingo 8 months ago
I've just watched 5 of your videos back to back (interesting hr that was!) and there is an arrogance that pervades your work, coupled with a inferiority complex. You want to be bigger than you are, you thought all your lilfe that you were the special one, although no one else seems to agree, other than the professor who feels that you alone of the Christian masses could understand beyond your years, the depth of what he said, and was conveniently an ex-missionary. You are vague in your....
mongoingo 9 months ago
I agree, this is just wonderful work.
alive4ever1 9 months ago 2
I'm going to mash this all up in one video, then find a publisher, clearly explaining that I, in no way represent you, then this will be a documentary and everyone will love you.
PyroGuideToHappiness 9 months ago 6
Your courage is tremendous.
StLennyBruce 9 months ago
Thank God all I need is my faith.. @Evid3nc3 try live your life in service and discover your answers helping others out. That is real christianity. Try living by faith in a 3rd world country as I am now. When you quit relying on your great philosophy and knoledge... I been like you before.. but not now. Thanks for posting this thou, it has helped a lot of people.
carloschapinski 9 months ago
that was very interesting video i do understand it's a Deconversion video after all but you seems that not only you believed in Christianity before but everything you saw was through a Christian point of view and to the point where you actually tried to share your view to make others believe in it too, Seems like you were not only a Christian but a very deep in Christianity, i do not know how some people here even question that you were not a true Christian or not saved according to them.
HassanAlHajry 10 months ago
@ TheHumanbeingHuman - How do you jump from "you will never know everything" to "trust in God"? Because one of those things we don't know is whether God even exists.
Klokhand 10 months ago
The idea of God is like vicious circle of poverty. Once you let it form in your mind, it feeds itself. It takes a fool and laziness to stumble to it, keep feeding it and it takes intellect and hard work to break out of it
srikargottipati 10 months ago
we all die. thats truth! so it doesnt matter whether your the smartest scientist or the dumbest christian. Life is lived in faith! To all my christians, Have hope and keep the faith! To those of you who favor yourselves intellectuals, humble yourself. There are things you dont know. And your search is futile. you will never know everything. realize that its ok to have hope in God. its not beneath you. its above.
TheHumanbeingHuman 10 months ago
what is this path to atheism stuff? as if you will reach some level of knowledge that will mean something. in order to move from one belief to another you have to obtain new information. you are simply shifting your faith from one place to another. but its faith still... and that information is no more absolute truth than your next shift of faith. And what will you do with what you learn? will you not die? unless you belief nothing, you're placing your faith in something...
TheHumanbeingHuman 10 months ago
@TheHumanbeingHuman
Your points are made from a false assumption. Atheism isn't a belief. It is not faith based. It is a rejection of claims made by those asserting that gods exist on the basis that they have not met their burden of proof. When you break it down, there is nothing to support the belief that supernatural anthropomorphic beings that manipulate reality from outside of it exist without faith.
papabungle 10 months ago
I think the path to Atheism follows one of a few select paths where one questions, reads the Bible, comes across an older pagan version of a Biblical story, or one sees a discrepancy with the Bible and history or science and from there the quest begins. This is probably why so many of us see the exact same journey in our own lives from being religious to unbelief because preset path of sorts. If only more people saw this series.
Jahaison 10 months ago
I must agree with 'vanillasmile82' and others posting thumbs-up. Your "Deconversion" journey is so much similar to my own journey. It has truly been a strengthening and comforting video for me, after my terrible lonelyness during the three years when I let go of 'God's Hand'. After that terrible three years, I began building a new foundation based on Naturalism on which I could stand and face daily life.
generalzard1940 11 months ago
I wish i could put more likes and thumbs up D:
buktomsin 11 months ago 7
I dont see how people could dislike this
midgety1 11 months ago 4
@midgety1 Yea Fuck those assholes this is beautiful:D
buktomsin 11 months ago 4
Little tip: if god is speaking to you, you may need to seek psychological help...
(<3 these videos)
MagicCurmudgeon 1 year ago 4
This is an absolutely exceptional video series. The animations are a fantastic means of narrating without actual images... and are very clean and visually appealing. That, and what you talk about, despite being so personal, is very intriguing to hear about. I find your confidence in revealing these things to random people amazing.
NinjaSuneku 1 year ago 3
This is the only video of yours where our stories significantly differ. I spent much of my youth in quiet frustration that God did NOT seem to talk to me. I was never able to discern between "divine guidance" and "my imagination," as you thought you could.
TheNeverborn 1 year ago 4
why disern? When I feel stuck, I take the challenge. I say if it's your will, it's your way. I just do nothing more. I continue to study, pray, and work. If I suceed then I will. If I don't then I don't. The point is to have faith, fight the fight, and finish the race.
doublewhat 1 year ago
You must ask yourself, am I failing a test? The story of Job is so perfect.
doublewhat 1 year ago
@doublewhat It amazes me how often the story of Job is proclaimed by christians in a way to "attempt to show why being pious during trials is good". However, they fail to see how this story can be nothing more than an ignorant person's faulty beliefs, even being unaware that the story itself only shows their god as less than omniscient. It is "perfect" in that sense, . . . but I'm sure you'll disagree.
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doublewhat 1 year ago
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doublewhat 1 year ago
Lol make a game like god of war.
thechamman1205 1 year ago
The discussion about "My Voice" and "God's voice" made me think... the voice authority is an effective way to propel oneself as if one is being lead by an external leader (in that case an all-powerful deity). Maybe this human trait of 'feeling external leadership from within' was an evolutionary advantage sometime in the past, that later lead to theism and religion. Of course, that trait is hardly of any use now, in this world full of knowledge.
gininginin 1 year ago 5
@gininginin this makes alot of sense and i often find that sucess comes by hardened determination and refuseing to give in and this is much easier when you imagine that a authoritative figure within yourself is driveing you forward as such if something is hard you can simply imagine a voice saying you will not give up no matter what this could be confused with a god also thats pretty scarey since that voice could be influenced by other people so it could say suicide bomb the two towers.. scarey
lonewolfM16 1 year ago 2
I have to say, it kind of freaks me out that people really think they're doing "God's Will" in the sense described in the video. It hadn't really occurred to me that people actually looked at the world in this way until quite recently... and it's quite scary that people justify their day-to-day life as being a kind of pawn to a seemingly uncaring creator.
symsee 1 year ago 12
@symsee especially when this creator was shown to be a violent barbaric maniac in the old testament also hitler justified his actions as the will of the creator repeatedly in his journals and mein kmaft and well al-kaeda convinced some people that god wanted them to fly a plane into a building and well....thats really scarey
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shakira20848 1 year ago
at first i was only interested in watching your personal history, and it didn't let me down this far. but in this episode, it sent me goose bumps all over. i'm currently studying computer science myself, was an unbeliever for my whole live, but i can clearly relate to your feeling of hollowness when it comes to learning statistics or math in general, those exams are the biggest challenges in my life this far.
pqzeus 1 year ago 2
heads up, your profile doesn't have these videos able to be viewed, so they are a bit harder to get at than just having them all in a list... it is interesting to hear what you went through, thank you for the share :D
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Statistics *is* a challenging and counter intuitive discipline.
studentofsmith 1 year ago
This series is making me realize that I never was a legitimate Christian.
Daruqe 1 year ago
What's weird to me is when this guy said he spoke in "tongues" but never explained what languages, I mean is he refurring to speaking gibberish or actual languages in the world that he never studied. In the bible it explained that when the diciples spoke in tongues they were actually speaking greek, latin, spanish etc. without studying such languages because the holy spirit gave them that gift. I heard arecent true story were someone recieved that supernatural gift after praying to the Trinity.
starsheild7 1 year ago
@starsheild7 You shan't talk about literacy, linguistics, and tongues when you spout these misinformed views. "Tongues" means a different dialect, not language. Almost anyone can easily speak with a British or Russian accent if they grew up with English. It isn't supernatural. Don't undermine the power of the human brain.
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geskaaify 1 year ago
This video really hit me hard - incredible stuff.
hellcat6249472 1 year ago
For those who feel their christian life is becoming "hollow", share the good news (gospel) with others. That will definitely jolt your walk with Jesus.
preachinshawn 1 year ago
@preachinshawn I could never commit such a great wrong as to share something with someone that I personally did not believe to be true.
AureolaFE 1 year ago
@preachinshawn Been there, done that. Actually, that's probably what Evid3nc3 was doing here- more or less. He approached atheists and debated them. When my faith ran dry, I myself spent a week in New Jersey at a missions chapel.
I became an atheist afterward. Sharing the gospel isn't going to be the magic shot of holy water that revives a faith that can no longer support itself when crushed by available evidence. If you can't defend it with reason, the faith is worthless.
Demosthenes6666 1 year ago
Demosthenes6666
I would love to hear your story of how you came to Christ.
Perhaps PM me.
preachinshawn 1 year ago
@preachinshawn You mean the "good news" that according to your book, they're very likely destined for eternal punishment. I fail to see how that brings anything other than hollowness to one's life.
symsee 1 year ago
@preachinshawn I would start at the first video in this series and work your way through. The author has made it painfully clear that he tried this over and over again while bits and pieces of his faith network crumbled away. This far into his journey, it really looks like it's way too late to lift his spirits by prosthelytizing a little, especially when he's finding it difficult to find reasons to believe it's even true.
DocBlasto 1 year ago
umm, i don't mean to be rude but did you ever try studying instead of praying. just wondering.
lemonlimesoap 1 year ago
What lead you to disable comments in prior videos? Too heavy an inbox?
BTW, did you ever make any video games?
mbturner625 1 year ago
What lead you to disable comments in prior videos? Too heavy an inbox?
mbturner625 1 year ago
This series should be made into a documentary and put on national television.
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@jeffsandychelsea "This series should be made into a documentary and put on national television."
A book!
TheGodlessGuitarist 8 months ago
@jeffsandychelsea I totally agree
DevilChao5 8 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
Just to clarify, the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology defines belief as, "...an emotional acceptance of some proposition, statement or doctrine." So I'd have to say that, at the time, he really did believe. Changing his mind (or his belief system) is the very essence of having free will.
ferrett78 1 year ago
I like that the geometric series formula that keeps appearing is wrong. Summing over i, but no i appears...
NSquarticsurface 1 year ago
your path is so similar to mine that it is almost creepy...
vanillasmile82 1 year ago 127
@vanillasmile82 i know right? ...that is creepy
Dacurath 1 year ago
@vanillasmile82 Ditto, my friend. It is quite amazing how similar these paths are. Thank you Evid3nc3, finally a well informed peaceful presentation of the deconstruction of an ancient mindset. Kudos.
jcejr09 1 year ago
@vanillasmile82 i'm quite certain that there are many others who have also had such an experience or one similar... :)
kaishininjou 8 months ago
@vanillasmile82 My friend said this as well. While I can see some similarities between Evid's path and my own, my destination remains undetermined, and I've never felt the need to bring science and religion into harmony; I am not a scientist, and I am not impressed by science. This isn't an attack on you - it's me connecting my response to your comment with a comment I would have made somewhere regardless.
KnightOneDark 8 months ago
@vanillasmile82 IT MUST BE THE HAND OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!
thezatorade 7 months ago
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Dude, you are SO deceived.
dboffman 1 year ago
@dboffman
1140 VOTES BEG TO DIFFER.
cr1tterp0wer 1 year ago
@dboffman His reason and rationality simply made it impossible for him to be a christian.
tf08js2 1 year ago
@pmf8
Its like feel really high on the holy spirit, and they start gibering nonsense.
And somone claims they understand what they are saying and "translates" if its "really god speaking"
steptocheese 1 year ago
well your life, like mine, is a giant catch-22.
crookedcarpet 1 year ago
Evid3nc3 makes several references to "speaking in tongues". Although I've seen videos of this, I've never really understood what this meant generally, or personally to the believer. Can someone explain this to me? Does the believer think they are divining/channeling someone/something? Does he/she believe this "tongue" is a genuine ancient language? Or is it just cathartic babbling? How does the believer reconcile the varying "tongues" spoken by different people? Thoughts?
pmf8 1 year ago
@pmf8 it can be speaking in ancient tongues or speaking the language of angels. so they can talk whatever gibberish they want
cheetmeister 1 year ago
@pmf8 Speaking in tongues is babbling, but in ancient times when people traveled very little and had no audio recordings of foreign languages, those who spoke in tongues claimed they were genuine, legitimate languages. They claimed god gave them the ability to speak in other languages. Now we know it's all horse-hockey, but a few "preachers" still do it, though no longer claiming it's a real language.
holzpusher 1 year ago
0:20 fortuitous personal interactions, yeh, those make me think of god too. ;)
l337pwnage 1 year ago
@Evid3nc3 After dealing with your delusion of grandeur as a christian, was it difficult to cope with the realization that you weren't indeed a person of special importance?
timothy51886 1 year ago