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  • A bloke who lived down the road from my Grandmother told her that his uncle new a woman whose sister forcibly received a vaccination, from Satan himself. Six years later, a woman who was in the room at the same time developed a twitch in her right eye. I think I have plainly shown that vaccinations are evil, they are part of the New World order, and what's more Jenny McCarthy says vaccinations are bad, and she should know, because she was on TV.

  • your logic is flawed. you are using emotional blackmail to try and win over audiences without evidence (eg photos of babies being vaccinated - just because the needle hurts doesnt mean that it is poisoning you) , you are cherry picking information - picking out the cases where vaccinations do go wrong and ignoring the majority which are successful hiding behind your claim that they arent recording statistics

  • Vaccines are toxic chemical and biological agents. This is why vaccinators are always ready to inject adrenaline in case they need to counter an anaphylactic reaction, which can be fatal.

    So, vaccines are poisons. Most doctors feel that their benefits outweigh the risks, but others consider them child abuse and a crime against humanity. So do I.

  • Go with the majority and hope for the best. Safety in numbers. Get vaccinated.

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  • Common diseases like small pox, measles and even flu can kill. Can you provide a figure of the death rate of those who received an injection versus those who didn't, of the above diseases? Only that can prove vaccinations are doing more harm than good to the people

  • exactly, finally someone with some common sense

  • "Can you provide a figure of the death rate of those who received an injection versus those who didn't, of the above diseases?"

    No, because nobody compiles such important statistics. Do you know why? Because the figures would immediately show what a farce vaccination is.

  • You can't go preaching about how bad vaccines are then if you can't prove anything or don't even know yourself. You haven't got a clue how many people have died (or not) from vaccines.

  • "You haven't got a clue how many people have died (or not) from vaccines"

    Nobody knows because no statistics are kept. Vaccine deaths are in most cases diagnosed as "cot deaths" or "SIDS." It's criminal. That's why I say that vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise.

  • so who is organizing this criminal enterprise? the govt? but there was recently an election - are both parties in on it?

    or is it a global conspiracy, combining all doctors who secretly want to kill everybody?

  • @ratherrandombella

    It has just evolved that way, and everyobody is in on it and nobody (apart from anti-vaxers) questions it.

    Most doctors are unaware of the harm vaccines cause, haveing been programmed to believe that vaccines are safe and effective.

  • @sweetiecandykim

    That's because no statistics are being collected or kept. One thing is for sure though: vaccines cause far more harm than infectious diseases in developed nations. That's quite obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.

  • that's probably true, but it's chicken or the egg. Are vaccines causing more harm than the infectious disease because they are treating it and therefore there are less diseases to cause harm?

    If for e.g. 75% people get a vaccine the percentage is therefore higher for side effects than catching the disease?

    (I know that doesn't make complete sense but you know what I mean and it's late now, I need to go to bed!)

  • @vaccineshurtbabies

    Lol, I quite proudly must have a non-functioning brain. If there are no statistics being collected or kept, where is the proof for your assertion that vaccines cause far more harm than infectious diseases. Logic FAIL for you.

  • @careclare Actually what about the unknown adverse reactions vaccines may cause if any of them work much at all. Then you have to look into the fact that there are very smart people with almost limitless resources to hide, spin, and suppress information. For all we know many things could come from vaccines down the road. Vaccine research seems to be skewed as tobacco science, so to make sense of it all scientifically is difficult to say the least.

  • @careclare However, there has not been enough research or proper scientific research on vaccines to make me feel safe taking one.There are many variables involved individually like the batch and each person's own immune system. I see people with all kinds of cancers nowadays that were once unheard of and especially in children. It is quite possible that vaccines will kill many more millions than the diseases they may or may not protect us .

  • It's really important to provide figures and some sort of evidences in the video. Because it seems to me that this video is another kind of media propaganda. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, 400,000 Europeans died each year from small pox in the 18th century, two million died in 1967. It was the vaccination that save a lot of life.

    It wud be very bias to claim that all vaccinations are safe, however it wud be equally bias to say that all vaccinations are harmful and dangerous.

  • exactly! This person looks at the hill but ignores the mountain standing behind it.

  • Vaccination is an organised criminal enterprise disguised as disease prevention.

  • And do you have evidence of this, or are you just talking out of your butt like every other paranoid delusional anti-vax nutbag?

  • "Do not take any vaccinations. This is the standard deceptive way you are given the establishment's biological warfare injections."

    Dr William D Kelley

  • @vaccineshurtbabies BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAAHAAA­AHAAAAAA HA HA HAAAA HA HA HAAAAA!!! *cough* *splutter* Just when I thought anti-vaxxers couldn't get any more stupid, YOU show up! Thank you for the comic relief!

  • "anti-vaxxers couldn't get any more stupid"

    "Belief in immunization is a form of delusional insanity."

    Dr Herbert Shelton

    I thinks that shows where you are coming from, goalhoarder.

  • How? Simply spouting a conspiracy theory doesn't disprove the science.

    You call me delusional, but you are a paranoid tin-foil hat wearing fringe-dweller who believes that vaccines are part of a global conspiracy of mind control.

    To me and every other rational person, that is delusional insanity.

  • In 1871, a smallpox epidemic killed 84,885 people in Germany, in 1872 there were 77,226 deaths, in 1873 there were 12,894 deaths and in 1874 there were 3345 deaths. That may sound a lot but its it was still less than 1% of the population. The vaccine was completely useless.

  • haha you sort of contradicted yourself. You say that only 1% of the population died but the vaccine was completely useless. What about the other 99%, how did they survive?

  • In any epidemic, some people die, many more people become sick, but survive, while most don't become sick. - regardless of vaccination status.

  • "Great video"

    Thanks Cogandable. I invite you to visit my 'Vaccination Information Network' on facebook. .

  • Vaccine makers've nothing to loose; thier publicly traded companies make money till gone bankrupt and their nazi scientists r sent to another sister co where they repeat same cycle.

    Most docs r paid pimps of these white coller criminals.

    Tax payers pay 4 their mistakes while these thugs' swiss bank acc swells.

    Children need a healthy life style and society based on truth .. wont happen till we conquer our 5 inner enemies : lust, anger, greed, attachment and arrogance !

  • "Children need a healthy life style and society based on truth .. wont happen till we conquer our 5 inner enemies : lust, anger, greed, attachment and arrogance !"

    Well said, ZENO1999! Vaccination is all about greed, attachment and arrogance: scientific arrogance and greed for profits, Parents' desire to protect their children is also a form of greed. If they did their homework they would realise that they are being deceived and that there is in fact NO NEED for vaccines of any kind.

  • Contd.

    Many parents have paid dearly for the deception they have fallen for, by having a vaccine-injured child to take care of - a child which would have been prefectly well if it hadn't been for the vaccination. .

  • Many parents just trust their docs who know evrything abt dis-eases and not much abt health.

    Tx 4 posting these videos and hard work to educate public.

  • "Many parents just trust their docs who know evrything abt dis-eases and not much abt health."

    Many docs don't know much about diseases either. They will e.g. give children fever-lowering drugs, not realising that fevers are an organism's normal and healthy reaction it has mounted to deal with an immune challenge.

  • Yes, I agree with u on fever = immune response to limit contagions.

    Tx 4 the feedback. Pl continue ur sharing; may God bless you and ur supporters.

  • Thanks for your support!

    Pl check out my 'Vaccination Information Network' page on facebook and recommend  it to others.

  • Contd.

    "Correlation does not imply causation."

    Is that so? Do you mean, it's a scientific fact? Then explain why when deaths caused by infectious diseases decline, suddenly correlation DOES imply causation? It seems that this rule is applied selectively, where and as it suits.

  • It would be helpful if you posted sources. As it stands, it reads like a bunch of unsupported anecdotes. I can't with any certainty draw the line to vaccines from this information. Correlation does not imply causation.

  • It's because these videos are not directed towards those that are critical thinkers. These videos deliberately exploit those that will not seek an ulterior explanation to the above. They appeal simply to emotion. They aren't about science, about evidence, about reason or rational thought.

  • "They aren't about science, about evidence, about reason or rational thought."

    Wow,, what you just said is certainly true about vaccines and vaccination! I couldn't have said it better myself!

  • The video is just an encouragement to do your own research. Basically, you can get the official government statistics from any country and make your own graphs based on the figures they supply you with. They will invariably show the same, namely that vaccines have never prevented any diseases. Also, google 'health sentinel' and click on 'graphs'.

  • Check out our 'Vaccination Information Network (VINE)' page on facebook, leave a comment and tell others about it, if you wish. Thank you!

  • FYI- Your thumbs up and downs are not working. I voted on some comments and then refreshed and they were not applied. Logged in as another user and the same thing happened.

  • "Your thumbs up and downs are not working."

     Thanks for letting me know! I'll look into it.

  • Anyone who can look upon the sufferings of others who have clearly been damaged by vaccines and leave such uncompassionate, cold, heartless comments are filled with evil.

  • transatlantic is a troll. You should just stop the commensts. The trolls love to type bovine turds on the your forums

  • "transatlantic is a troll. You should just stop the comments. The trolls love to type bovine turds on the your forums"

    You are right on all three counts. I have a very strong hunch that transtlantic is a troll paid to post crap on anti-vaccination websites. Only, it's too late. The cat is out of the bag. The word that vaccination is an organised criminal activity is spreading fast.

  • I have no doubt that you the ones that are ignorant, wiggly and Vax.

    We will see let just the number of unvaccinated kids deaths start to raise and we will see who was hurting who.

    Also: i have all the right to comment as much as i want. I also have the trend to not use insults to support any of my arguments - much nicer

  • "i have all the right to comment as much as I want."

    Yes, you have, but you are not going to comment here any longer. I suggest you compile a video for youtube, providing any evidence you can find to show that vaccines are safe and effective. It's only fair. Why should I let you comment on my site when you haven't got one for me to comment on?

  • "you forget to tell people if any compensation was given"

    I have mentioned it in some cases. By 1995, 18,141 claims for compensation for vaccine injuries were made to the German courts since 1972, which is one vaccine injury per 4300 inhabitants. Of the 18,141 claims, 4578 claims were accepted for compensation. Now who said that vaccines are safe?

  • it seems my comments were deleted...well here it is again: tell people for what people got compensation for. i tell: no one got dead, compensation was given for short term serious allergic reactions, with none having any long term effect or biological damage.

  • "compensation was given for short term serious allergic reactions, with none having any long term effect or biological damage."

    If at all, you've obviously either watched my video with a blindfold on, or you were in such a delusional stupor that your eyes, not to speak of your brain, registered absolutely nothing.

  • no one just say "vaccines are safe": smart people say: because of the large numbers of peer- reviewd papers published, anyone can say: VACCINES ARE SAFE

  • "thanks to the large numbers of peer- reviewed papers published, anyone can say: VACCINES ARE SAFE"

    Considering the vaccine-injured children I've featured on my video, the peer-reviewed papers you talk about would obvioulsy not even be worth the paper they're written on. You're however wrong: even the medical literature shows that vaccines aren't safe, or effective.

  • want medical literature that show that vaccines are safe and effective? i'll give it to you, as you give none to support your views: Murray P, medical microbiology; New England medical journal - search vaccine safety; more: PUBMED, effects of vaccines in humans and animals; more: hospital records, cdc, fda,... they all show: Vaccines are SAFE, videos of yours have no conection to vaccines, you probably picked the images randomly

  • "you probably picked the images randomly"

    Yes, whereever I came across them; just as babies and children are maimed and killed by doctors randomly, whenever they vaccinate them.

  • can you provide evidence (lawsuits, medical papers) of the kids affected?

  • no, he can't....

  • "can you provide evidence (lawsuits, medical papers) of the kids affected?"

    I could, for the German children, as their cases were supplied to me by my friend Dr med G Buchwald, but then why would I want to go to the trouble and expense?

    If you google 'Robert Topp', you will find the application to the US vaccine court to obtain compensation for Robert Topp's severe injuries he sustained as a result of vaccination.

  • Buchwald has no say, as he gives no medical records... and i mean real ones: blood tests, genetic tests, previous history, pregnancy history,family history... just random mild reaction reports, with no cause related to vaccines. and buchwald is retired.... he is decades away from the new vaccine tech...

    if you google Robert Topp you see that the mother couldn't present medical records related to the story... another suffering mother being abused by you....

  • "Buchwald has no say, as he gives no medical records.."

    Not to jerks like you, no. He has however presented some 200 cases with full medical documentation to the German social courts which award compensation for cases of vaccine injury. Go and eat your hat.

  • "the mother couldn't present medical records related to the story... another suffering mother being abused by you..."

    Yes, medical doctors maim and kill children with vaccines, yet the onus of proving it lies with the parents who have no medical knowledge and are denied medical support. You ar quite right that this mother is being abused - not by me, but by the medical vaccine mafia system.

  • What you fail to understand is that many genetic diseases begin at certain ages in most humans if they were to have been born with that defect. Alzheimers usually occurs in over 65s, Polycythemia in over 50s, Schizophrenia in teens, Autism in under 5 yo. Vaccines are not involved with genetic disorders.

  • "Vaccines are not involved with genetic disorders"

    I some cases vaccines trigger genetic disorders, as in the case of Hannah Poling, while in others they damage children's DNA.

  • In response to the Poling case, the United Mitochondrial Disease Foundation has released a statement saying, "There are no scientific studies documenting that childhood vaccinations cause mitochondrial diseases or worsen mitochondrial disease symptoms."

  • Dr. John Shoffner, the Atlanta-based neurologist who identified Hannah Poling's mitochondrial disorder, is "genuinely puzzled" by the court's judgment. Shoffner, who has been studying and treating these disorders for 20 years, says it's impossible to say whether Hannah's mitochondrial disorder was, in fact, a pre-existing condition that set the stage for her autism (as the government contends) or if it developed along with her autism.

  • "My daughter's case raises more questions than it answers," concedes her father, Dr. Jon Poling, a neurologist who also has a Ph.D. in biophysics. Poling believes in the importance of vaccinating children: "Vaccines are one of the most important advances in the history of medicine," he says, "but people need to know there is a risk to every medicine. There may be a small percentage of people who are susceptible to injury."

  • "Dr. Jon Poling, a neurologist who also has a Ph.D. in biophysics. Poling believes in the importance of vaccinating children: "Vaccines are one of the most important advances in the history of medicine,"

    He's obviously brain-washed like most of his kind. If he had known better and left his daughter unvaccinated, she might still be a normal child leading a normal life.

  • Actually she probably would have had exactly the same problems that she did, only without the benefit of immunity to many other preventable diseases. Brainwashing works both ways - anti-vaccinationists are brainwashed to believe in worldwide corporate conspiracies. Its funny how you claim doctors are corrupt & get kickbacks from pharma yet the reality is they don't, its alt med practioners who charge for a dodgy diagnosis then sell you expensive water & fake treatments making huge profits.

  • "Dr. John Shoffner is "genuinely puzzled"

    Puzzlement is a common mental disorder among medical doctors. It happens every time a normal and healthy child becomes autistic or dies shortly after it has been injected with the toxic crap more commonly referred to as "vaccines".

    Their puzzlement is however usually promptly cured when the vaccine-related disorder or death is diagnosed as "autism", or "SIDS", respectively.

  • Contd.

    Example: Doctor with furrowed brow exclaims:

    "How strange! Now why would it be that this little baby suddenly died after I injected it with a vaccine?? Ahhhhh!!! It must be SIDS!!" (furrowed brow disappears after this display of superb diagnostic ability).

  • even though no baby has ever died after a vaccine.... or you finaly found the paper you always are supposed to have that can prove your points?

    and dwason is right: alt med practitioners are such a huge baloney that they need to have disclaimers in all their books and treatments... and even don't produce any kind of research from their part....

  • They do produce anecdotal evidence which according to the highly trained scientific minds of Jenny Mccarthy & Vaccineshurtbabies is evidence. Sorry to say guys but the plural for anecdote is anecdotes, not data. Anecdotes are emotion based storys that often bare little resemblence to what actually happened. They are full of human bias. That is why placebo controlled double blind studies are used in decent medical trials. This removes the human element & focuses on the results.

  • don't forget to say the result of those placebo trials and metha-analysis review: pacebo vs alt medicine = nothing

  • I did but the post vanished. In a recent acupuncture study the fake acupunture actually had more positive results than the "real acupunture". However rather than admit that acupunture doesn't work the people conducting the trial called for more study of placebos??? What a bunch of retards.

  • " the fake acupunture actually had more positive results than the "real acupunture"."

    And who was conducting the study, and who was doing the acupuncture? Was it perhaps a medical doctor who took a two-week course in acupuncture, the way they do, to offer their patients "acupuncture"?

  • no it was more than 1 certified acupuncturist. you can check the studies. Unless they go against your lunatic beliefs.

    Please go check them instead of just insulting. You give people videos and bogus talks. But real research you just miss...

  • " It was more than 1 certified acupuncturist"

    OK, but were they certified after a two-week course, or a two-year course?

  • why not you go check it? as if i post the link, you'll just start shouting "conspiracy" and that i say nothing true...

    try find it in your crazy-lying-websites, maybe they have the answer... or you can go PUBMED, Lancet, BMJ,...

  • "no baby has ever died after a vaccine"

    Google "Death by Lethal Vaccine Injection" on Dr Kim's website, then eat your hat.

  • LOLOL you must tell the people that "DR" Ben Kim is no MD. has the same disclaimer there: "Any decisions you make with regard to your daily choices and medical treatments should be made with the help of a qualified health care provider. ".... this is a fraud... that uses the same thing like you: explores the pain of mothers to prove your delusions, and with not 1 single proof of evidence...

    so again: no baby had ever died after a flu shot, or a tetanus shot, or...

  • want to know all your websites have a disclaimer? because they (opposite of doctors) can't assume responsibility upon their actions or what people do with their info. Why? because they don't know anything about what they are talking about. They can speak freely, but tell people they are not of trust in technical subjects.

  • Also take note that once again, like all alt med websites, Ben Kim's website is about selling you stuff. The articles tell you how something is unhealthy but I have the cure - just click on the link to my herbal supplement such as "Real Vitamin C" which only costs $28.97 for 500 grams. Yet you can get more VC capsules for less money in a supermarket. "But they aren't Real VC" I hear you say - VC is asorbic acid - its a chemical so whether real or artificial it works the same. Alt med is a ripoff

  • "Alt med is a ripoff"

    Soem of it may be, while some of it is good. It's the same with medicine. Accident and emergency surgery is brilliant, but HIV drugs, cancer treatments and vaccination are a fraud, as far as I am concerned.

  • It doesn't matter what you think, the proof is in the outcomes - the current anti-viral treatments for HIV have extended the average life of the infected from a year to over 30 years. Look at where the HIV rates are highest - Africa. Why is it so high? The medical ignorance of the people right up to the highest levels of government. People there think they can get rid of it by rapeing virgins. The govt thinks they can cure people with beetroot juice. If you truly cared you wouldn't spread lies.

  • "If you truly cared you wouldn't spread lies."

    The "lies" you are accusing me of spreading is the truth, the way I see it. Read about the HIV,cancer treatment , and vaccination fraud in Dr G Lanctot's book "The Medical Mafia". You can download it for free from 'scribd'.

  • why should I read that book? is full of unproven claims, it's bogus.

    former MD, Ghis Lanctot, has lost her license, was arrested, is a friend of david icke (it seems), she has no clue of any recent HIV, cancer ot vaccination knowledge... how she even become an MD amazes me... well it's a fact that she did not keep her career... i need to confirm this... but i think she don't even finished the medical school in quebec

    why don't you read this book: Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine?

  • "why should I read that book? is full of unproven claims, it's bogus."

    How do you know if yu haven't even read the book? Seems like a classic example of prejudice - judging something before you have even nvestigated it.

  • how i know it? if you picked a book saying: "evolution is wrong- life energies are true", by Dr I Hatescience, would you read it?

  • "if you picked a book saying: "evolution is wrong- life energies are true" would you read it?"

    I may do. I'm always interested in other people's ideas, to widen my horizons.

  • you saying that you would read a book that says "evolution is wrong" says a lot about your understanding about anything of reason... that is: none...

    what about the other books i put here? by Harrison, and Murray, would you read them? or just the ones that fit your delusion?

  • Question - do you take anti-malaria medication?

  • "do you take anti-malaria medication?"

    No. Why would I?

  • Well there is a risk factor in Thailand.

  • "Well there is a risk factor of malaria in Thailand"

    Not in Bangkok. Dengue is more of a problem, but I don't worry about that, either. In any case, malaria drugs are known to cause serious side-effects in some people, so I would never take them, even though I recently visited a hilltribe on the Thai-Burmese border where there is some malaria. You can find photos on my (Erwin Alber) facebook profile.

  • Contd.

    I have invested in some of Jim Humble's Miracle Mineral Solution. I would try MMS if I got malaria. I would also try homoeopathics, and as a last resort medical treatment, which was effective in treating a friend who picked up malaria in South America.

  • By the time you reach last resort stage you will be dead because you wasted time of things proven to be useless. As for the miracle BS - look at the long list of stuff it claims to cure with no independent evidence to support it. Its active ingredient is Chlorine Dioxide which is used to disinfect municipal drinking water so drink tap water instead, its cheaper & just as effective.

  • "By the time you reach last resort stage you will be dead because you wasted time of things proven to be useless."

    You're such a scaredy-rabbit. I'll try alternative approaches first. I would know after a couple of days if the MMS worked, or not. If it didn't, and I was in bad shape, I would rush straight to hospital. No problem. I have lived in South America for 4 years and now in Thailand for nearly 3, and I've never even had diarrhoea! Give me a break!

  • Assuming that the disease progresses normally. What if you have no major symptoms until the final stages? After you take your magic water & it fails it will be too late for real treatment. BTW you are acknowledging here that real treatment will work when magic water doesn't - why not opt for the real treatment to begin with?

  • Jim Humble? the one that has also a disclaimer stating he has no understanding of sciences and please see a doctor when needed because he takes no responsability if you follow his words? Do you know why i know you lying about your friend: there is not 1 proven report that homeopathics work

  • "Jim Humble? the one that has also a disclaimer"

    transtlantic, give me a break fro your moronic outpourings! We've already discussted that disclaimers are used to avoid persecution by medical-pharmaceutical mafia-influenced governments.

  • "persecution by medical-pharmaceutical mafia-influenced governments" - and you claim not to be a conspiracy theorist.

  • "you claim not to be a conspiracy theorist"

    You can call me whatever you like. I'm a realist. I just see and describe what I see and know.

  • really? lets see, you claim to be a realist: so show people the proof. Any paper that experimented your theories? If you are a realist why don't you see the evidence? the evidence tested, experimented and seen that Vaccines are safe. If you are a realist why do you keep assuming wrong ideas? unproven facts, things that you don't even understand you use to fit your imaginary ideas!

  • YOU moron: your idea of mafia-influence is as true as the concept that you actually have rational thinking!

    All the books that you used to support your claims are made by people who do not have proof, have been in prison, don't have a clue about what is human cell, or have logic falacies in their own talks!

    i am starting to think you agree with david ickes 2....

  • "you may even agree with david icke"

    I don't agree with everything he says, but the bulk of his information is factual, interesting and to the point.

  • lolol, "the bulk" of schizophrenia that makes david icke is the trend between people like you Vax, there's nice medication for that

  • "same with medicine", wrong, all alt medicine have been proven equal to 0 or they do nothing or even do damage.

    If you like surgery would you care to explain how cancer treatments are done? Would you also check the data about AZT and how life expectancy of HIV infected people have been increased over the years because of new treatments? unless it goes against your lunacy Vax, don't want you to have an heart attack.

    Btw, emergy surgery uses medication, blood transfusions, many more... you ok?

  • "check the data about AZT"

    Some decades ago, AZT was used to treat cancer. Only, it's use was eventually disconinued because AZT was killing patients quicker than the cancers did! I guess one could say that the treament was successful, as the dead pateint didn't have to suffer from cancer any more. Now this highly toxic drug is used on HIV patients, whose immune system is destryed by AZT. These patients are actually killed by their drug "therapy", not HIV/AIDS.

  • From wiki: "AZT was originally intended to treat cancer, but was shelved after it proved ineffective in treating cancer in mice." - That was in 1964. Exactly how many cancer patients were given AZT & how many died???

  • "how many cancer patients were given AZT"

    I don't know, I just remember reading about it. On checking the net, it seems that although AZT was initially developed for use in chemotherapy for cancer patients, it was rearded as too toxic to use. But now, it's fine to use this carcinogenic drug in AIDS patients???!!!

  • nope...you lying again: read the studies, AZT shown no effect to treat cancer on mice. btw...you really don't even know what is HIV or AZT, do you? what they mean? How HIV works... or even the principles of AZT effect? you just keep shouting negative sounding stuff to scare people...

  • "AZT was originally intended to treat cancer, but was shelved after it proved ineffective in treating cancer in mice., never used in humans when it was found." btw HIV may stimulate cancer development. The understanding of the drug and the HIV mechanism allowed it to be used as an effective drug against HIV.

    You keep lying and lying...you really have a delusion mind...

    btw: HIV, Human immunodeficiency virus.... that destroys the immune system, not the AZT... you are so dumb...

  • Read John Lauritsen, 'Poison by Prescription; The AZT story' Asklepios Press USA 1990, ISBN 0-943742-06-4.

    "This is the story of a toxic drug, with no scientifically proven benefits, which is being given to tens of thousands of people, including many who are perfectly healthy. It is a story of collusion among corrupt government officials, incompetent researchers, and an unscrupulous pharmaceutical company.

  • Vax... why? do you really want me to put hundreds of studies after 1990 here posted? proving that mister John (that have a background of being another crazy like you, that keep producing claims from his arse) is wrong? you and John don't understand HIV and AZT therefore how can even try to oppose evidence, experimentation, accomulated knowledge from years of research? if you are ignorant of even what is an immune cell? i.e.: try explain what does CD4 means please...

  • "how can you even try to oppose evidence, experimentation, accomulated knowledge from years of research?"

    I don't try to oppose it, I just point out to those with an open mind that vaccination is an elaborate fraud.

  • Its good to have an open mind but not so open your brains fall out. BTW your mind is clamped shut to the possiblity your beliefs are wrong - so shut that you willfully ignore the evidence that doesn't support your psuedoscience.

  • "if you open your mind to much, your brain might fall out" - by Tim Minchin, a comedian that offers his piano to anyone who can prove that homeopathy works.

    Or James Randi: he pays 1million dollars if you can prove that the ideas you claim are true (no one could till now, and never will i bet)

  • "HIV, not AZT, destroys the immune system"

    Tat's what you are told, and waht you believe, but it's actually the other way around. Google 'AZT unsafe at any dose Alberta Reappraising AIDS Society' and read up about AZT's toxicity and carcinogenicity.

  • omg....so tell me how a "realist" like you searches in places that have no clue what even azr or hiv works? why don't you search WHO and see prevalence of karposi sarcomas being reduced over time as azt is used? you really are mad and an ignorant

    If you believe in david icke: TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THE LIZARDS!!!

  • "TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THE LIZARDS!!!"

    Calm down! Someone is bound to call for the padded wagon to take you away, if you keep carrying on like that!

  • Hannah Poling suffered from encephalopathy (brain disease) caused by a mitochondrial enzyme deficit, a mitochondrial (genetic) disorder, which was diagnosed months after the vaccination; it is not unusual for children with such deficits to develop neurologic signs between their first and second years.

  • "it is not unusual for children with such deficits to develop neurologic signs between their first and second years"

    The vaccine injury court nevertheless acknowledged that on the balance of the evidence, her autism was triggrered by the vaccine and awarded compensation accordingly.

  • nope. the technical board was not consulted by the judge. It was a compensation based just on the plea for compensation, nothing in the trial notes refer to the relation "autism vs vaccines".

  • "nothing in the trial notes refer to the relation "autism vs vaccines". "

    The court was very careful to make the distinction, as any admission of a vaccine link to autism would have opened the flood gates to compensation claims. This is also why a recent court decision went against the parents of three vaccine-injured children suffering from autism.

  • "it is not unusual for children with such deficits to develop neurologic signs between their first and second years."

    Well, how interesting. It stands to reason that the neurogical disorders were either triggered due to underlying problems, or caused directly by vaccinations. The fact that unvaccnated children are generally far healthier than vaccinated children speaks for itself.

  • "unvaccnated children are generally far healthier than vaccinated children speaks for itself." - care to show the study that proves this? wait! there aren't any, actually the ones that there show how groups of vaccinated children have lower death rates compared to unvaccinated children. WHO

  • "unvaccinated children are generally far healthier than vaccinated children - care to show the study that proves this? wait! there aren't any"

    Exactly. Because they daren't do any such studies because it would expose the harm vaccines cause. Google the 'generation rescue survey' though, or the 'New Zealand Immunisation Awareness Society survey'. However, if we are going to wait for some honest research, we are going to die of old age.

  • Typical conspiracy theorist rhetoric here. If no study has been done then its a cover-up. If a study is done that disproves your unfounded beliefs then its a cover-up. Everything is evidence for the conspiracy in the lunacy of the conspiracy theorist.

  • just wait till they start sending you e-mails... you'll lol for hours...

  • "Everything is evidence for the conspiracy in the lunacy of the conspiracy theorist."

    I am not a conspiracy theorist. I just see what's there, while you are either asleep at the wheel, or in denial. Watch the youtube video 'Creating a nation of zombies', featuring "my fellow conspiracy theorist", US neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock MD.

  • Yet another sign of the conspiracy theorist - they claim they are not yet have the insight to connect the conspiracy dots. As for Russell Blaylock, he has gone over to the alt med side to make an easy buck selling his "brain repair supplements". He is also against fluoride & aspartame. He believes in ID which just proves he is stupid.

  • "He is also against fluoride & aspartame"

    You don't ned to be a rocket scientist (or in this case a brain surgeon) to figure out that vaccinations, fluoridation, dental amalgams, MSG and aspartame are all neurotoxic. Your brain seems to be too far gone to figure it out. Watch the youtube video 'Creating a nation of zombies'. It may help you find out what happened to you.

  • i watched... found it was done by a zombie that sure let the brain fall out from some hole in the back...

    just need to be a 6 grader to understand more than you do Vax... and to know that you are just lies, bias, bogus claims,... a liar basicaly. A kid that still believes "that there's something in the closet dangerous, so don't open it!" lolol

  • "you're like a kid that still believes that there's something in the closet dangerous, so don't open it!"

    You obviously don't dare to open the vaccination closet door, for fear of all the skeletons of babies and children killed by vaccinating doctors falling out.

  • i did open the closet... no dead babies there.. you keep not showing evidence if you found any skeletons... just bogus and more bogus... from a person who believes in alt medicine and that the sun is circling the earth --> great wise man VAX

  • OK - I found your first example 'Robert Topp' - Through your excellent research you say he is Australian - he is American. He also is suffering from Bells palsy which accounts for his weird expression. This is associated with the herpes virus causing facial paralysis.

  • "Robert Topp is American".

    I got Rob's story from the Australian Vaccination Network website, so may have wrongly assumed that he was American. My apologies if that's the case. That doesn't change the fact that vaccines cause wide-spread damage and even deaths or that many of the children I've shown have been officially acknowledged as victims of vaccine damage.

  • "I got Rob's story from the Australian Vaccination Network website, so may have wrongly assumed that he was American."

    Oops! That should have been: "...so may have wrongly assumed that he was Australian".

  • Rob the robot? or Rob the doctor who has not even his peers to confirm any of his claims? any proof?

  • "Rob the robot? or Rob the doctor who has not even his peers to confirm any of his claims? any proof? "

    No, you idiot. Robert Topp, the American boy whose life was destroyed by a hepatitis B shot. You can see a photo of him on my youtube video 'Vaccination: Miracle or Mayhem? Part 2: Are vaccines safe?

  • i think Vax that you are a very sick person. That mother has a very painfull story. The case of Robert has no link to any kind of vaccination. That mother is suffering for her "lost" son and you taking advantage of her. You and all the other crazy Vax people. You should be ashamed.

    try put pictures of the 350000 children that died each year because of polio in africa (after vaccination programs only 1000 and less each year).

  • "try put pictures of the 350000 children that died each year because of polio"

    I'll let you do that. I'm too busy informing parents about the millions of children who get vaccine-injured each year, to make some criminals filthy rich.

  • yeah...always what fits your lunacy.... instead of informing about the science behind it. You produce no evidence.

    Just Pics without context like the ones you put just show how much you are without reason.

    why not a video of the reactions you claim vaccines produce? a video where it follows 100 people after vaccination? maybe some will have the reactions you claim? it would be fun to see you try...

    you are a complete wacko btw, and you keep showing no evidence.

  • "The case of Robert has no link to any kind of vaccination"

    BS. I found Robert's photo and Hep B vaccine-injury story on an Australian website, and assumed Robert was an Australian child. mddawson claims the boy's name is R Topp, and that he's American. I don't know if mddawson is right, but the parents of a Robert Topp have lodged a compensation claim for vaccine injury with the US vaccine court. What makes you think this case is not linked to vaccine injury, when it quite obviously is.

  • omg...you even did not read the story yourself....have you? you made the link to the website of "big bogus", and you didn't tried to find the letter and the first photo? you really don't use "reason" when you think, do you?

    why it is not linked: the mother couldn't show any medical records (by the mother herself). That's why it will not have compensation. No proof, no correlation = lies, and people like you to transform a suffering mother to fit your crazy ideas....

  • "you even did not read the story yourself....have you? you made the link to the website of "big bogus", and you didn't tried to find the letter and the first photo?"

    Can you direct me to the information YOU are talking about? You've got me lost.

  • so you talk about robert and now.... you forget it....

  • "so you talk about robert and now.... you forget it..."

    No, don't forget. I know what I am talking about, but I don't know what you are talking about because you don't express yourself clearly. I suspect you were vaccine-brain-injured as a baby, that's why I am patient with you.

  • no Vax: tell me where in the story of the mother there is any part that can correlate the shots to the kid? a medical record, a background, age of the mother, pregnancy tests, anything apart from the mother saying "Vax did it"?

  • "anything apart from the mother saying "Vax did it"?"

    Mothers know. Also, unlike medical doctors they have no vested interest in lying.

  • "mothers know"? uhm... so why they go to doctors to ask for diagnosis and treatment? wanna be to post hundrds of syndroms that you can't simply know unless you do medical observation? you really show how ignorant a person can be Vax.... unlike you mothers go to people who KNOW how to give treaments.

  • "mothers know"?"

    Many mothers have a gut feeling that sticking a vaccine needle int a baby and injecting it is all wrong, but many of them unfortunately allow themselves to be talked into vaccinating their baby by doctors, or well-meaning but equally deluded husbands or relatives.

  • "mothers have a gut feeling" - uhm... yes they can feel their children might get sick, therefore they vaccinate: to prevent any possible harm.

    the only deluded person is you Vax... mainly because you insist to refuse to read a science book or go see for yourself evidence...

  • "Mothers therefore vaccinate: to prevent any possible harm".

    Many do, but a growing number don't. Many of those who do end up with a vaccine-injured baby and wish they could turn the clock back, hence the big rallies of people whose babies have suffered harm. Their clamouring for "green vaccines" is rather silly though, because if all the poison was removed, there would be no vaccine left.

  • "big rallies of people"????? lol, and they go to the justice court and are shown that evidence does not correlate vaccines to harm. Vaccines will always exist because they are effective, history proves this. there is no "poison" in the vaccines. you don't even know what there is in a vacccine

  • "Just one year ago now, Hannah Poling won compensation for her vaccine induced autism. Now last week, the parents of yet another child with autism spectrum disorder (ASD) were awarded a lump sum of more than $810,000 (plus an estimated $30-40,000 per year for autism services and care) in compensation by the Court, which ruled that the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine had caused acute brain damage that led to his autism spectrum disorder.

  • Contd.

    The family of 10-year-old Bailey Banks won their case quietly and without fanfare in June of 2007, but the ruling has only now come to public attention. In the remarkably clear and eloquent decision, Special Master Richard Abell ruled that the Banks had successfully demonstrated that "the MMR vaccine at issue actually caused the conditions from which Bailey suffered and continues to suffer."

  • Try AVN org au - its in their library.

  • "Try AVN org au - its in their library"

    Thanks! I had only seen the abridged version on AVN before, in which no mention was made of Robert being in America.

  • whale .. vaccines ... topp2.html

    here is the letter from the mother. Has many gaps in the story...

    And she is being used by you Vax

  • This is the sort of private email you can expect from vaccineshurtbabies if you point out his videos are a load of lies:

    "I may yet have to come over, to make an impact on you. There is apparently very little difference between an Australian and a computer, as ne has to punch the data into both of them! "

    Yep, threats of physical violence. Nice one.

  • "Yep, threats of physical viole