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[LittleM43]

Her book was amazing and eye opening. I'm so grateful that she wrote it and to let us know her story.

[GoddessMoney]

I hope more of the women in this cult wake up like Carolyn did, and find a way to get out. 

[kaegansmama]

I agree that the FLDS do a lot of things wrong, BUT, I am a home schooling mom and I would be very distressed if they made a law saying I HAD to put my children in a public school. Why do people believe that if your child isn't in a school setting that they are not getting an education? My three year old is reading and starting to write. We have our children involved in many activities out side our home with children in their peer group. (4-H, sports groups, church groups).

[Elizabeththegreatest]

My god , that is just sick!

[LindaDooWop]

Those old men are sick perverts. I'd rather be accused of murder!

[adape0884frank]

OMG this woman was so brave to do what she did. She probably must of felt very feared for many years.

[Anacchi]

Ah, I see the problem here. Not only are you clearly disturbed, but you've obviously never gotten any in your entire life - thus resulting in your excessive referrals to sex. Well, all I can say is that you'd better get used to it, because judging from what you write, no woman in her right mind will ever want anything to do with you - oh and you better go back to school, your english doesn't sound very good. Anyway, I'm bored with you now. It's been fun. Cheerio.

[Anacchi]

You still sound like an idiot...

[Anacchi]

Fuck you, with all your "women have the tendency to lie and cry when they not happy" bullshit. You fucking halfwit, you sound like an idiot.

[paulaegraham]

I admire Carolyn Jessop because she doesn't back down, but she isn't obnoxious. I hope her oldest daughter follows her out of the cult.

[Anacchi]

Just finished reading "Escape". Carolyn Jessop is an amazingly strong women and I hope that more people in FLDS can one day realise that they've been brainwashed and get out of there!

[yfzion]

Actually, YOU have just been brainwashed, and you don't even know it!

[Anacchi]

Nah mate - too much stuff going on in my head to allow one thing to stick for too long.

[yfzion]

Maybe you would think about it if these lies were affecting YOUR life, instead of just jumping on the bandwagon.

[Anacchi]

Let me spell this out for you, in case you didn't catch it the first time: I. Don't. Care. About. Anything. You. Say. About. Anything. :)

[yfzion]

You sound pretty apathetic. I sincerely hope you get over it.

[cass12279]

What a strong woman to be able to not be so brainwhashed as to stay!

[DadsBlueAngel]

I think the US Government has a responsibility to

mandate that home schooled children meet

exacting academic standards, understanding

that some home schooled children may have

learning disabilities. Home Schooling and education are not anti-thetical.

It seems from your story that the triggering issue

was the lack of care afforded to disabled children living with their families in Texas. How are these

children faring?

by Texas Medical Schools--help available in Utah,

and even in the Ukraine.

[sabelmouse]

homeschooling is not the problem. there are plenty of instances of abuse of schooled children.

as a homeschooler i get a little anoyed when homescholing and seperatist nut case sects that live in compounds with guns ectr are put into the same category.

[DadsBlueAngel]

Do you think that this happens enough that it effects the average homeschool student? My

friend had to homeschool her Jr HIgh student because of the homophobia in Oregon. He refused to go back to school. My niece resigned from 2nd grade by writing her own letter on a piece of wrapping paper and tying it with a ribbon. She then handed it to her school teacher and walked out. Jr high was the nuns. Straight A's, but racial flack. She dyed her hair and bought dark lip gloss. In CA UC system now.

[sabelmouse]

what do you mean exactly?

[yfzion]

This information is far from the truth.The children are getting a much better education through home schooling than they ever got in the public school, generally speaking.

[guitarjoe]

of course you're going to say that. you're probably from the YFZ community in Texas!

[yfzion]

Actually, I am not. But I do know the author of this novel.

[sabelmouse]

lots of home/unscholers do though most of us are not members of sects or religious extremists.

we just think that schools are not the best environment for learning.

[Britbrat1988]

apparently purplecow deleted what everyone was so upset about....???

[iamjordandorian]

Key question: 'How can something of God be so ugly?"

[iamjordandorian]

Whoa. Just calm down people.

[blondepurple]

Hello people. Well I have read this book now and im so dam horrified that this can happen in a free country the great superpower of the world usa and look how hey let the women and children of their country be treated. I am gobsmacked. Polygamy is horrific and illegal and yet there are thousands of people living blatantly flaunting the law. People are not god the people who have power over all these helpless people will have to pay for what they have done one day.good on you carolyn jessop.

[ngfxoxo]

Yeah, an excellent book, I am almost done. It is sad because just like the author, if children are raised in an enclosed environment like this, they know nothing else. They believe it is normal. Scary as hell.

I fear for Carolyn, to be honest. The men who set this evil and sick society into motion are not all behind bars. She has exposed a great deal that no doubt enrages them. I hope that for the rest of her life Carolyn has peace and joy, as well as her children.

[DadsBlueAngel]

A tiny percent, certainly well below 1% of abused children are in conservative homeschooling--abusers don't care. Carol is pleased that she was able to permanently break the grasp of Warren Jessop, most are evangelical or Baptist, I'm sure. They use homeschool to cover up pregnancies etc.

I am Warren's age and think he had radiation linked unremitting insomnia. What would any religion do about a leader going off their nut.

A Bishop was removed during Nam 4 harrasing COs.

i.

[blondepurple]

great you go girl your life is just going to get better and better but how come this can happen in a western country why cant the president of the usa get involved this is what amazes me that the polygamists have been laughing at the laws for decades. Poor women and poor children.

[cuitree]

It's wonderful that carolyn has had the courage to write about the abuses generated by the sect.Her her book will save many women, children and men.

[imthepurplecow]

you all are so strange she didn't ESCAPE she RAN. and her book is all LIES. Learn to read between the lines.

[xxyasmin7xx]

imthepurplecow:are you retarded?! she did ESCAPE from her husband and the communitys' clutches. hence the name of the book. if you read her book im pretty sure you wouldnt be accusing her of lying. id like to see you living in that environment and see how you cope just like she did.ignorant!

[imthepurplecow]

NO I'm not retarded. I live in that kind of environment and know how to cope because it's easy we are loved blessed and more then I could ever say to any one. She's just been taken over by DEVILS and more.

[xxyasmin7xx]

imthepurplecow:you've got issues :S

[imthepurplecow]

Your only 17 give me a break how do you know what i'm talking about Have you ever lived in that kind of an environment? don't think So

[xxyasmin7xx]

whats age got to do with it?! ive read her book and its enough for me to say that the environment that she was living in was unhealthy. do you live in that environment? ive lived in an islamic environment where i was limited to do things so yeh iv almost been there. you dont even know me and your making assumptions.

[xxyasmin7xx]

17 is NOT too young to understand! is that why im a grade A student?! ive been to hell and back so you have no right to judge me. you can have an opinion from the first day you start talking asshole!! yes and after reading about her experience its enough for me to want to shoot the cult leader. i take it your one of the many who were brainwashed right?! that makes sense. its not like carolyn is the only person who hated the cult. many women have come forward. so you really shouldnt be proud!

[imthepurplecow]

AND For one thing It's not a cult we can live however we would like. OPEN YOUR EYES...and to say you'd want to shot the cult leader is only damning yourself not me. nice talking have a nice life

[xxyasmin7xx]

hahaha! well your living a lie! what planet are you on?! i live in scotland and i heard about this cult leader all the way here before the book was written!! and about the cult! im sure many people would like to shoot the a*****e!!! you must not be living in the same area carolyn lived in. what idiot would take children out of education? or ban the color red? or ban people from crying over death? or abuse animals?thats damning!! i think you need psychiatric help. get over the brainwashed effect.

[DadsBlueAngel]

The Devils lived in the surrounding community in Utah and persecuted all polygamists. We were taught that this was very wrong. My grandfather shared a hospital room with Rulon Jeff's for 2 weeks. I went down to visit. He said Rulon was as fine a person as anyone would expect to meet. The abuse was not apparent--but we isolated these people through community prejudice, it was no demonic plot. Primogenitor has problems and the FDLS fell prey. Read a good history of the Kings of England.

[DadsBlueAngel]

I have mixed feelings about this comment--abused children need mothers to protect them and I am proud of Carole for following her instincts and planning her escape with such determination. The immediate trigger was medical abuse--she had to take her son to an appointment in Utah because this care was not available in Texas and the medical abuse of children, linked more or both to radiation than consanguinity, was and became much worse in Texas after the raid.

[57hissyfits]

If you guys loved Carolyns book you will love Elissa Wall's book as well. Elissa has more facts and she helped put Warren Jeffs in prison for underage marriage (Elissa was married off at 14 and repeatedly raped by her husband).

[imthepurplecow]

Your just to young to understand LOL. people think 16 in to yuong to get married well 17 is to young to make statements about things you know nothing about. ONLY FROM READING A BOOK. give me a break & yes I live in the very town she did And I'm PROUD to be in it

[57hissyfits]

I am not 17. I am going to be 38 in november. I think your comments are pointless and uneducated. I am glad you live in the same city as she did, you may as well just join up as well. It sounds like you would be a great obedient wife with a gun at your back.

[imthepurplecow]

Sorry I hit the wrong replay I wasn't talking to you. But it sound like some one got up on the wrong side of the bed. ive never had a gun to my head and beleive me if life was so strick why am I on the internet talking to some people about something they know nothing about. HAVE A NICE DAY

[hartface26]

You think that 16 is not too young to be married but 17 is too young to understand simple concepts? There is something a little hypocritical about your argument. I know you have your beliefs but try to have open mind. You may not be forced to do anything in your own life but it doesn't mean she hasn't. You have the right to your own beliefs, but you should look at situations as they truly are, not what you WANT them to be. Don't be so close minded to think that these things don't happen.

[dizzyntara]

purplecow why the hell would u be proud to be from colorado city?? that place is 1 of the smallest shit hole towns in all of az! even worse than AJ!

[yfzion]

There are one or two facts in Elissa's book. One is that she was a RECRUITED victim (since their original "victim" wouln't cooperate).

[HarrieStylist]

Carolyn is an absolute inspiration. Thank you for your courage...you are amazing.

Its so sad...sooo sad that these ppl know nothing else and they really believe they are doing the right thing... Escape touched my heart and I hope that America gets some morals and change this bullshit...

[yfzion]

It IS sad that so many people in America really believe they are doing the right thing by persecuting good people. Your heart has been "touched" by a lie.

[DadsBlueAngel]

It would help if people would make one point per comment, then these could receive a clear up or down--you can comment again. I have given thumbs down to comments with which I agree in part, then there is the wipe all polygamy and those who practice it off the face of the Earth--that is cultural genocide in my frame of view and I can only give the comment a thumbs down.

[MikeDetadi]

God bless Carolyn Jessop for having the courage to leave with her children. Also, I thought the interviewer did a good job. She clearly read the book and did her research.

[actress101fun]

the person who is interviewing her buggs me

[emoanna22]

i read d first 3 chapters of "escape" in d bookstore and i love it. her life is so shoking!

[yfzion]

It is a sensational novel all right.

[emtgurl85]

if u like this book read secret ceremonies i forget the authors name i loved that book too

[DadsBlueAngel]

I was glad she shared her experience--every honest book of this kind adds to our understanding of what it is to be human. On the other hand and having a miserable 1st marriage in the Church [LDS], her experience was very different from mine. For instance the sequence where she is embarrassed by undressing

before non-mormons, my mother and sometimes other LDS went to the free swim night at the public pool and all changed in the same room. There were many ways to get around that, easier now.

[stypa1717]

i've just finished reading the book, and must say, i was fuming angry right through the reading. what goes on in side this kult is absolutely evil....there is NOTHING 'from god' in it. I congratulate the author for all she did to help herself and her children - well done!

[DadsBlueAngel]

Warren Jeffs was mad, but I don't think the FLDS were inclined to follow suit--some, whistleblowers, exposed what happened in the community, all fine and good. IN Utah the situation is far more relaxed. But Texas' means to their mad ends was as unconstitutional and harmful as abuse of power against the powerless in any other situation. That this was a use of military police against a religious group flaunts both the Constitution and the values it represents.

[pinkrocksnichelee]

I just got her book "Escape" it is so good. It makes me cry, but I'm so happy that she got away from that.

[Officer1a1]

5:46 "You know, Warren is part of the problem. But the reality is is that this society created Warren."

Wow! Does that not sum up the FLDS?

[DadsBlueAngel]

I think we need to move away from an illusory we are better because they are worse mentality and get real. Texas is superior because domestic tyranny is absent?

If there is no required testing for Home Schooled

Children, no craft, social and special subjects days, family field trips, no homeschooled child would do well. In Catholic School for Junior High my friend's girl got straight A's. Every child is individual. Children that aren't doing poorly without cause [dyslexia etc.] need tutoring.

[YugoSrce]

I've no idea what you are trying to say.

[DadsBlueAngel]

Some opponents of homeschooling have used the removal of the children from public school to set up a large homeschool to bash all homeschooling. Texas law allows those with Bachelor's degrees to teach so there was a chance for better schooling. This was a draw into the FLDS community and a chance for food security which is resented because it is/was lacking elsewhere. 85% of our food comes from abroad.

[Britbrat1988]

Ditto. WTH?

[im4ethics]

I have so much respect and admiration for Carolyn Jessop. She has shown courage over and over again, first by questioning the dictates of the "prophet", then by escaping from the FLDS with her children, and by writing her book and speaking publicly of life inside the FLDS. In my eyes, she is truly an American hero.

[pococolo]

This woman is such a strong, powerful force. The FLDS will ultimately fail because it marginalizes and excludes such people.

[Britbrat1988]

The Morman church excludes ppl and it still "flourishes." The current Morman church wants to deny Polygamy but the Prophet Joseph Smith said polygamy is the way it's supposed to be, so why doesn' t the Mormon Church follow the principles? The Mormon Church is made up and a knock off Christianity. It committs the sin idolitry

[qualityfemale]

Britbrat - the reason the "mainstream" Mormon's don't follow polygamy is because they were forced to disavow it in 1890 so Utah could attain statehood. The Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price and Doctrines and Covenants all state that man HAS TO have plural marriage to enter the Celestial Kingdom. The Mormon apologetics re-write constantly the Mormon laws as the need arises. There is constant secrecy behind everything in the Mormon world just as in the FLDS world. The temples are secret too

[qualityfemale]

In actuality the FLDS is NOT a radical splinter group from the Mormons...it is in fact the TRUE Mormon religion and the Latter Day Saints are the splinter group. The FLDS practice the tenets of the religion and the LDS practice a "bastardized" version of what Joseph Smith ordered. Most non-LDS have no idea how secret the LDS temple rituals are and how far the church will go to keep them secret. HBO's Big Love is going to show a temple marriage and the LDS are trying everything to stop it!!

[qualityfemale]

Blondepurple..it is not just the FLDS that believe they will be gods on day..the LDS believe that if the are "worthy" they will obtain at death their own planet and will be a god of it. Also, if they are "worthy" they will have thousands of wives on this planet who will be eternally pregnant. That is the highest a woman can hope to reach, being eternally pregnant ...is it any wonder Utah has the highest Suicide rate and the highest rate of anti-depressants prescribed? A woman is second rate

[yfzion]

You don't know as much as you think you know.

[DadsBlueAngel]

It says in the New Testament that a Bishop should have but one wife, my greatgrandfather was a

Bishop [for life] and a Scott.

In Nauvoo men of independent property or in

Church employ were expected to take plural wives,

some were war orphans from the Missouri Extermination Act period. Fathers might be dead. Some lost their wives and families, driven into marshes and forced to live outdoors. John Taylor, Prophet of the LDS Church may have had Barlows and Jessops for bodyguards.