i find it amazing how luck had something to do with all this. just one slip and its all won or its all over. nations need to get along or the young men and women will have to pay all over again. leaders of the world need to realize that war is disgraceful.
@topperheartramada agree. It tells the story in much more detail and you get a much better idea why the USN won these two battles - Midway and the Coral Sea.
Henry Fonda, Charles Bronson, Dennis Weaver, Eli Wallach and Lee Van Cleef are said to have served Pacific WW2. Anyone else? Not John Watne though lol!
Everyone should read The Rising Sun The rise and decline of the Japanes Empire, as well as Soldiers of the Sun. Great reads that give an awesome look into Japanes politics, the psyche of the Japanes military, and shed light on reasons for the War
@MikeElder1991 OK: I made a note of the titles you suggested. I believe the 20th Century involvement of the Japanese Army in politics is often referred to as Kurai Tanima (the Dark Valley). Also worth reading is 'Lesser Gods, Greater Devils' by Arthur Lane, who describes his experiences as an allied soldier during the period; provocative and horrifying stuff but a worthwhile perspective of an individual 'squaddie'
@interlope....your the reasopn the world still has bloodshed and must pay the price with lives of ita armed forces........and for the record, resources won the war. Even if Japan had been more successful at Midway, they could not produce wat America could. It is a shame because the knowledge Tsuji, Yamamoto, and the other Japanese Navy figures could have provided us knowledge that was unpararelled in the world.......
@interlope....your the reasopn the world still has bloodshed and must pay the price with lives of ita armed forces........and for the record, resources won the war. Even if Japan had been more successful at Midway, they could not produce wat America could. It is a shame because the knowledge Tsuji, Yamamoto, and the other Japanese Navy figures could have provided us knowledge that was unpararelled in the world.......
Interloper83: you are a short sighted poorly informed nitwit, there is only one (1) race of people on the earth that would be the human race!!!your racist argument is specious. To fight for ones existence and liberty is good and honorable, the japanese had been trying to destroy China to rule them and their natural resources then they turned on the America for the same reason. Hitler and his backers planned on ruling the world with no liberty for their subjects! Much like the democrats now!!
The bottom line is..., The Battle of Midway was won because Rear Admiral Raymond Spruance was true high stakes 'poker player'. He went 'All-In' with his cards. Not many would dare to do what Spruance had done. He had committed ALL his planes to strike & destroy all 4 of the Japanese Aircraft Carriers. A very bold move & gamble indeed.
By observing this documentary it is obvious this single bold move & gamble by Spruance had altered the whole course of battle history in The Pacific.
models are all wrong....they have wildcats dive bombing......and the canted smoke stacks were only on Junyo and Hiyo during this phase of the war....all their ships had rear facing, or huge horizontal smoke stacks on their sides......
@runrunforest1, at the time of Midway, they only had 6 fleet carriers. 1 was badly damaged and the other needed new aircrews. Two light carriers were up north attacking the Aleutian Islands. There Were two light carriers at Midway, but in support of the transports, one of which only carried 12 aircraft.
The Yamato was at Midway, but not with the main strike force.
@runrunforest1 (continue) The Japanese did figure the US would pursue them after they sunk the 4 carriers and hoped to lure them into surface action, but the U.S decided no give chase. This episode didn't mention it, but on the 6th of June, they U.S did sink an additional ship - a Heavy Cruiser that was damaged in a collision with another cruiser.
Admiral Yamamoto overcomplicated the Midway invasion. His forces were scattered rather then being grouped. Read up on it :)
After this battle, japan only had 2 of her remaining heavy carriers, Shokaku and Zuikaku. Both of which would continue to harass and sink the hornet later in the Battle of Santa Cruz islands. Just imagine if Nagumo would have bunched all 6 of Japan's best carriers in the battle of midway.
@tool619 Shokaku was heavily damaged and the Battle of the Coral Sea and Zuikaku, while undamaged, lost so many aircrew that she had only enough to fly a dozen planes, very understrength. The Japanese didn't have replacement crews to take up the slack so Z. was not included in the force. If both had been there with full crews this battle could have ended up ugly for both sides.
@donsargent i think if we do go to war usa allies would win bc in the end bc of past war experiances with china and than after it would start another iraq/afganistain were we just stay there indefinently prity much. it depends if china uses nukes and resistant groups there. thanks to obama if we do get attacked we wont use nukes right away only as a last resort. so if we do go to war and allies on both sides fight each other the usa wont be the ones who start a nuke war bc of the new policy.
Of course we are all humans man! Haha! We share 100% of the Fucking DNA! Know what will unite the stupid HUMAN Race? An attack from a fucking super advanced extraterrestrial alien race out to annihilate our entire HUMAN civilization the way the conquistadors annihilated the AZTECS!
the war declared by japan to U.S was kind of a suicide mission, after pearl harbour attack yamamoto predicted japanese superiority only for 6 months before being outmatched by power of american economy and industry
@ShinigamixXXx the two atomic bombs dropped on japan saved more japanese lives then it took. If you want tot talk about responsabilty for the usless deaths of so many japanese people then you need to look at the leaders of the japanese.
@discgolfer92 The atomic should have been only used as a threat, it shouldnt have been used as a weapon. Even the creator of the bomb protested the use of it
@discgolfer92 You are right - millions could die repelling invasion on the main japanese islands. There was a plan called "Ketsu-go", to send every single japanese man (even unarmed) against US invasion forces.
@ShinigamixXXx There are alot of lessons to be learned from WWII. Japanese national leadership should have recognized and admitted defeat before the atom bombs were used; clearly they were pushed back. You can try and cast blame on the US but look at who started the aggression. That being said, I think its also time for the US to pull bases out of Japan for many reasons, one of which being the negative sentiments like yours whether justified or not.
@KyleRoku but how can u say that to a ppl who believed dying for his country is the greatest honour, the fact is the emperor was a coward who didnt really know whats best for his ppl and he alone surrendered while the rest of the japanese ppl where still willing to fight.
@ShinigamixXXx . your people would have fought to the death in a conventional war and milllions more would have been killed. and on top of this, the russians would have invaded and japan would be divided like korea is today. it had to be done to end the insanity.
@nomadnametab hmm why should u care about the japanese ppl when back then no one hesitated on dropping 2 atomic bombs. Also the complete surrender of japan wasnt the voice of the ppl. most of the japanese were willing to fight to the bitter end rather then losing their honour. But still it was a losing battle.
@ShinigamixXXx the japanese never wanted to take on the US. like today it had more to do with Oil. japan still today is totally dependent on import of oil nearly 90%. in ww2 the US had embargo against japan so clearly war had to occur. and today japan is protected by the US. with out the US being on japan soil russia would have invaded after the war.if you want to go deep then the embargo was a excuse for the US to enter the war knowing japan would attack.
They make no mention of the USS Hammond that was torpedoed by a Jap sub while along side the Yorktown which was sunk with about 90 US sailors. And also the Yorktown was also hit by a Jap sub torpedo, but still didn't sink! The final blow to the Yorktown came from 2 Jap destroyers, both firing a spread of torpedoes into her, sending her to the bottom.
how did the hiryu's 2nd strike force not realise that they were hitting the yorktown for a second time, surely they would have seen the damage from the ealier attack, that was a very stuipid mistake
@aziqbal The USS Yorktown's damage control teams were so effective, that they were able to extinguish all the fires and restarted the boilers which allowed Yorktown to steam at an incredible 20 knots.... To the Japs, who thought the Yorktown had gone to the bottom, they thought this was a different carrier... Read Miracle at Midway. :)
@tommydangerx Yes, US fire teams were drastically superior to the Japanese. During the US dive bomb attacks 1 carrier was hit by 4 or more 1 by 3, and 1 by 1 hit 1 near miss. As you know all 3 were loss. Go US Navy!!!!
Oh it was 80 KIA on USS Hammond and most were killed by their own depth charges going off, unfortunate situation....just FYI
@001kb The anti-aircraft crews on the US ships were also vastly superior to their counter-parts on the Japanese vessels. The Imperial Navy's AA crews could put up colourful and dense-looking barrages but it was incredible as to how few hits they scored. In both the carrier battles of the Eastern Solomons and Santa Cruz both fought later that same year, not a single US carrier plane was lost to AA-fire from the Imperial Carrier forces.
I live in Charleston, SC where the second Yorktown is a museum. Many times you go onboard and will find a vet who served on the first and the second Yorktown. Speaking to them about some of these events is really a mind opening experience. Many are recording their stories for the naval museum. Just being on the second Yorktown is quite an experience, not as big as you might think.
@aziqbal The damage on York had been repaired and she was under full steam landi9ng and flying out aircraft. With no smoke and no apparently visible damage the Japanese pilots' error was understandable.
Crazy the way racism works. If not careful, all of this derogatory nonsense would coax me into ignorant racism. The key is to no allow anyone or anything to influence your opinion. There has never been a soldier who benefited from going to war. Clearly we are pawns and I for one will not surrender my life for a fight that is not mine. Japan and U.S are distinctions created by men to divide us. Just names because we are all human in the end.
Its good to avoid racism.However, you need more than a "war and division(as in national distinctions)" philosophy.If you think that the only reason why Japanese are Japanese and Americans are Americans is because of some conspiracy that treats us as pawns" you aren't going to get very far.It is amazing the serious mistakes people make when in a different culture because they do not appreciate differences.Just check out Americans in action when spending a Spring Break in Mexico.
Thats a nice sentiment, but you need something more robust than a conspiracy differences where National Distinctions are nominal and artificial.Anyone who has ever been to another country knows this. The fact is, these differences are not a result of a conspiracy to make people as pawns.To try to overcome racism with a conspiracy of this nature is to substitute one ignorance for another.
@Interloper83 The Japanese were only different in degree from NAZI's. Just call a Korean, Japanese. And to see why you just got your ass kicked, look up "comfort women" and "WWII". Today Japan is not likely to attack neighbors nor is Germany. Apparently, they needed that lesson. As for the US, if I had approved of torture in the Iraq conflict, I would not go to Italy or Spain or anywhere else that they actually believe in the Geneva Convention. War crimes trials are a bitch.
@Interloper83 you are a pussy all gooks muslims africans and hispanics deserve death and hell for being god less heathans its better and more fun to kill them than waste time into trying to convert them into being christians!!!
So true. Unfortunately, mass media indoctrinate national pride and hate into the heads of ordinary people. That is why we will always continue to be cannon food for our governments and war lobbyists. We die, few others make profits. Ironically, this is called democracy. The best joke in history.
Is Estonia even a country or a glorified city? In other words, you mean nothing on the world circuit, so unless you have something intelligent to say (WITH evidence of your claim), crawl back under your Estonian hut and stfu.
I think personally, The Japanese miscalculated that they have the power to defeat the United States. When in fact it was going to fight the most powerful country in the world. Their early victories were in fact achieved because of the effect of surprise and because the US forces were unprepared. But when they began to fight on equal terms with the US, as in Attrition, their industry could not hope to match the US. Because they became too Arrogant and ignored achievable goals.
A big part for the victory for the US in Midway was due to the damaging hits made to the Zuikaku in the battle of the Coral Sea and the high number of air crews lost there. Nagumo had to contend with US forces on Midway and carriers at the same time. If he had the Zuikaku he could have launched the attack on Midway and had reserves to handle the US carriers. Instead he got caught flat footed with fully loaded aircraft on his decks when the US forces arrived.
Actually, Zuikaku didn't get hit at Coral Sea, but it's airwing was decimated. Shokaku was hit by 3 1000lb. bombs. The truth is there weren't any japanese attack aircraft on the deck at the time the SBD,s attacked. They hadn't even began deck spotting operations.
I stand corrected, It was the Shokaku that was hit. About 70 aircrews were lost. Because of this lost Nagumo was short the aircrews necessary to handle the US carriers and Midway at the same time.
I swear the Japanese were both arrogant, stupid and constantly ling to their superiors.
It would have made a lot more sense to use this strategy on pearl harbour. I mean why attack it and then not follow through with a land invasion?
Second point, how on earth can the Japanese pilots mistake the Yorktown for the second of the American carriers? The thing would have had a huge plume of smoke coming from it or at least theyd be able to tell from the list.
dude, i agree with ur first statement : "Japanese were both arrogant, stupid and constantly ling to their superiors."
but, on ur second point i disagree, have u been in a japanese dive bomber on that battle and on altitude high enough that u only see the carriers silhouette, u cannot see very small details such us destroyed AA guns or alike, and take into consideration how fast american damage controls can extinguish fires. hope ive enlightened you...
Paulwander: The plan was to seize the oil of the Dutch East Indies. Note where the Philippines is on the map. Pearl was attacked first to prevent any reinforcement of Japan's primary target, the Philippines. After knocking out US forces in the PI and seizing the oil of the DE Indies, the plan was to dig in and see what happened, while the army continued its war in China.
The fatal Japanese error was in going beyond that plan. That was the moment when they overreached. First discarding the dig in and so some more move forward, repelled in the Battle of Coral Sea, and then with Shokaku and Zuikaku out of action owing to pilot loss in that carrier engagement, then the next act of the overreach, Midway. They would have lost the war no matter, but they didn't do themselves any favors by their overreaching. Ironically, Yamamoto himself called it victory disease.
@Azulitokun to far from Japan and their lines of communication. After taking islands closer to Pearl & opening communication lines then an invasion would be more promising. Yet, had they invaded they would won b/c they could have(should have)done more air attacks & then go up into Pearl w/ 18.1" guns blazing & eliminate US forces. Yet w/o possesing other islands, attacks would launch against them& supply ships going to them, plus the men needed to seize & maintane control are need else where
THe jap general should of order a reload on stand by right after the attack of midway.instead of waiting for scouts to report back. i guess they fucked up big time
anyways if i was nagumo..i would have ordered to send all 42 destroyers to the enemy carrier and his battleships to the midway island..then what could nimitz do??
nagumo or yamomoto..i'm not sure which ones..but look..carriers will reach a topspeed op 20 kts..destroyers can reach a topspeed of 42 kts.
and battleships about 26 kts.
so if his battleships took on the island..nagumo didn't needed to arm his reserve planes with bombs.but kept them with anti-ship weapons..once the scout plane spotted the american carrier,,it went like BOOM enterprice..then the main attack bombers would have been rearmed with anti-ship weapons.goodbye hornet and enterprice
It could not have worked because the americans could send the rest of their planes to sink the destroyers and battleships. Since all the japanese planes were destroyed, they would have been sitting ducks just like at Pearl Harbour. It would have been a too costly attack for the japs and they could've lost hundreds of thousands of troops (they had infantry ready to land on Midway) for a chance to sink the 2 remaining carriers
They did think of this, but decided the threat of American land & carrier based planes was too great. Battleship Yamato (18.1' guns) has a firing range of 25 miles, B-17s on Midway, and Dive Bombers on Hornet & Enterprise can hit MUCH further that that. Besides, Yorktown was sunk the next day by a Japanese sub - both sides did the right thing to pull out.
yes..the japanse force was just been beaten by luck..the US always has luck..same in normandy..if the pantzer devision was there instead of calais..there would be no operation market garden..
and was the yamato involved at the batle of midway?? and the b-17 were already destroyed by the countless bombers of the japanese force..
and the yorktown wasn't sunk by a submarine..the japanese did two strikes on it..they thought they sunk 2 carriers..
The Yamato was Adm. Yamamoto's flagship in one of the other Japanese task forces. Army B-17s would "claim" severl hits (really scored 0), though in reality high-level bombing of naval targets would prove ineffective. Yorktown WAS bombed twice, the second time due her crew's excelent damage control, and the crew abandoned ship, but she didn't/wouldn't sink - USS Hammann was dispatched to help tow her back to Pearl, But I-168 got to them first and sunk them both.
Actually, after the disaster with the carriers, Yamamoto ordered his surface ships east to try to take out the American carriers. Fletcher Fled from the Yorktown and ceded command to Admiral Spruance. Spruance advance forward to pick up his planes before withdrawing east, knowing that the enemy had superior surface combatants.
The Japanese surface fleet did not catch the American task force and had to withdraw.
A US carrier could hit 32 kts. They had to get new battleships to accompany them.
Believe me, carriers, which were at first converted from cruisers stripped of their guns and much of their armor, could easily outrun battleships. They had comparable displacement to the original cruisers and comparable propulsion.
Considering the advantages of having a fast moving platform when operating an airwing, they were certainly not 6 kts slower than battleships.
Unless wind resistance from the carrier deck is significant (it's not), I see no reason why the Lexington couldn't hit that speed. (Actually, she was faster than what I said by 1 or 2 kts.)
wow..i hate to say this.but you are right..i checked it on google andthey said the yorktown could reach a top speed of 32 kts..according to me..that really fast lol..sorry for the asted time though
Did a bit of research, you are incorrect. The USS Enterprise had a top speed of 32.5 knots (About 37 mile per hour). Yorktown and Hornet were the same class as Enterprise so they had to have the same top speeds.
wow..i cando bit of esearch too..you are incorrect..the enterprise cold rech a top speel of 32.427 kts..about 37 miles per hour.imean..whatever what is o,5 kts?
Excuse me, fool, but in your earlier post you said that the carrier(s) couldn't reach a speed of 32 knots. Make up your idiot mind and admit that you were 1) wrong in your statement and 2) therefore a fool/idiot.
yes i did..but hey you are wrong as well..you wanker..off course i said 32 kts because none cae about the very details of the details..go fuck yourself..(1 there fore an idiot yourself
@roadrodent1952 it was operational again which means not the best it could do but it could still go. thats what he said. i know its a year old comment but i hate it when people dont watch the video and think they know more than the guys who do it for a living.
@roadrodent1952 except for the fact that the Enterprise had been refitted with several chicago pianos and other things so its difficult to determine its true top speed especially with so many variables, I'm not saying your wrong I'm just saying that the Enterprise was eventually sorta in a class of its own especially since all they was creating after awhile was Essex class carriers.
The weight of the 1.1 inchers ("Chicago Pianos", darn things were notorious for one or more barrels jamming!) would have very little effect on the ship's speed so with no damage the Big "E" most likely could hold pretty close to her top rated speed.
Enterprise, Yorktown, and Hornet were of the same class and were superceeded by the Essex class carriers that came later (and they were rated at 32.7, vs 32.5 for "E", knots of speed).
And seeing events after Midway that failure have more severe consequences for Japanese Navy as only loss of elite pilots and sailors from those Carriers.
In that battle Japan lost also trust in her invincibility and i believe that was the biggest American victory at the Pacific witch irreversable altered course of that war until final act of capitulation in September 1945.
This battle could have different turnout if Nagumo will lisening advice of ViceAdm Yamaguchi (Commander of the Carrier Hiryu) and lauch his planes right after first signal about US ships(what Spruance do) then who knowns what will happend..
And biggest mistake made by Japan Admirality was left untouch Zuikaku in harbor when his fighters might give entire Task Force massive fighter air cover(heck they could even put only fighters on board making her as Air Support Only Carrier).
Bush used the attack on the Twin Towers as casus beli to hunt Saddam, despite there was no link.
There was the incident of the Gulf of Tonkin, which lead to full military intervention in Vietnam and has been proben to have been a load of miss information taken out of proportions.
In the first world war, germany put adverts in US news paper warning not to board the lusitania, it was staged so that the Germans had no alternative but to torpedo it.
I am no fan of conspiracy theories, but sometimes the simplest explanation leaves wanting.
There is a lot of material pointing to the idea that at best the US top brass had a good idea of what was brewing, short of the exact dates it was a response to the oil embargo was expected...
There is plenty of historical precedents, from Ceaser to Bush: it doesnt look good if you hit first.
I had some videos saved on favorites with a documentary about the B24 Liberators, but they got deleted. But it was a very good video, and the plane was the only Bomber that could be used for so many rolls, and hold a ton of cargo (bombs and or supplies) and fly i think 3000 miles or so on one tank. It could hold i think up to like 2000 or so pounds of bombs, and crew of 8 or 10 or so? it was literally like a flying tank, and if you type in "B24 Liberator", go to the documentary that has 4 parts
But R.I.P. to the brave people who lost their lives. Not only at Pearl Harbor, but Midway (and the rest of the Pacific War). We lost about 3000 at PH. They lost about 3000 at Midway. Not to mention, all 4 of their carriers (for our 1)... Payback is ever so sweet. (But at a price in this case)
Yes, it's amazing how Midway was fought. Really,if you think about it, everyone involved really did'nt know what they were doing in a strategic sense since this kind of battle was so new. IMHO, the IJN would have never won there. They did'nt have enough planes for recon.
Yes. Also, the Japs landed I think 5,000 some odd troops in Alaska, the only attack made on u.s. soil by a foreign enemy and the initial plan was to have an attack platform to northern parts of the u.s. (have ports there for ships and also long range bombers). But it was not shortly after the Americans sent about 20,000 or more troops to take it over. Because later on, the U.S. used the Alaskan islands as a major airfield to hit the Japanese with B24 Liberators (a long range heavy bomber)
Personally, I like Dogfights and Battlefield 360 shows, but this one is decent too.... But eventhough some/few of the ships were salvaged and made seaworthy, it took months to recover. The U.S. had to make a quick decision and they made a good decision by striking back as soon as possibe. Because if the Japanese started heading home, it would have been suicide to try and fight them at their door step. With luck and the guts of the men out there, they managed the impossible.
The 2 biggest myths about Midway is 1.The importance of cracking the code. Yamamoto was pissed after PH that the carriers were'nt sunk. He wanted a confrontation with the USN. He originally planned for an invasion of Australia but the plan was nixed by an uncooperative IJA. He had to settle for Midway. Midway was not intended to be used as a stepping stone to another PH attack, as it's tiny airfield can only support 90 aircraft.
2.The attack on Alaska was a way to lure out the USN. Nagumo's plan was to draw out the USN by a direct attack on Midway, not Aleutian. If the attack on Alaska was a ploy, why did'nt they start the attack 1 week earlier? Why was Nagumo given direct orders to only attack Midway once? If Midway was such a big prize, where was the IJA landing party. Why was there no scout subs used like PH? Yamamoto felt that Midway was a huge risk because of this compromise. He was right.
The Japanese force headed to Alaska was to make the U.S. go after them, to leave PH open for attack.Not Midway. The Japanese attacked Midway after PH.There woulda been no point to attack a small airfield first, when the Mass of the U.S. Pacific Fleet was a few clicks (couple hundred miles) east of Midway.The U.S. carriers, from what I heard/know, were about 300-500 miles outside of Hawaii, and even though PH was hit hard. I believe a few of the ships were salvaged and recomissioned to seaworthy
Maybe, a very good point made.The only problem is that why was there no landing party at Midway?The time it would've taken for USN task force to sail up to Alaska, engage IJN, and sail back may be not enough time to set up landing party on Midway to prepare for 2nd attack on PH.Nagumo knew that PH's military strength had quadrupled since the 1st attack on PH and a 2nd attack would be too late.The IJA was stretched too thin in Manchuria/Burma at that time and had not recovered from Palmeira ruse.
In the book Shattered Sword, it suggests that the attack on Alaska was merely a freebie while the brunt of Kido Butai engaged USN.Also, with PH being immensely fortified since 1st attack, Yamamoto might have considered attacking Seattle, a smaller, albeit very important port for USN.Alaska would be an obvious position for that attack. You are right though, the IJN did consider the fact that the destruction on PH was relatively light and that many of the valuable ships were recomissioned.
This is wrong! The Hiryu went into damage control, attempting to pick up suriving seamen and pilots lost from the other carriers. After the 2nd attack, it turned 240 dgs. port and circled the other damaged ships. it then headed 70dgs into the wind. No, they did'nt think that they sunk 2 carriers and no, they were not resting.
Thanx for the upload, you've got some amazin documentaries.
PaulPreddy 4 days ago
i find it amazing how luck had something to do with all this. just one slip and its all won or its all over. nations need to get along or the young men and women will have to pay all over again. leaders of the world need to realize that war is disgraceful.
glynamus 2 weeks ago
japanene suck big time, and i tougth.......no
nolifemerc 2 weeks ago
wooden flight desks are a bad thing
stardaddyo9 1 month ago
What is the song beginning at 7:07?
swagger93 1 month ago
that nuclear explosion is amazing, just half a gram of uranium is fully converted to pure energy.
VERGIS92 3 months ago
@VERGIS92 and if so, how does that apply to this video?
TheUncleDougger 2 weeks ago
@TheUncleDougger it's a miracle of physics that helped win the war, just like microwave radar helped win these naval battles, physicists won the war!
VERGIS92 2 weeks ago
rip uss yorktown and its men
mita5mzeke 3 months ago
excellent videos
thanks for sharing
pacoloco729 4 months ago
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What is this series called? Its so good, i need to find all the episodes.
Sumoto999 5 months ago
What is this series called? Its so good, i need to find all the episodes.
Sumoto999 5 months ago
@Sumoto999 try 'battlefield'. it is way better.
topperheartramada 3 months ago
@topperheartramada agree. It tells the story in much more detail and you get a much better idea why the USN won these two battles - Midway and the Coral Sea.
Conn30Mtenor 2 months ago
@topperheartramada This is real, not some simulation. Lessons from Midway battle are still being taught to this day.
TheUncleDougger 2 weeks ago
@Sumoto999 The series is called "20th Century Battlefields". Peter and Dan Snow also hosted a series called "Battlefield Britain".
Steve17010 2 months ago
the uss yorktown had a good fight that poor old boat
PurrMan55 5 months ago
wow, that was such a good documentary!! thanks for uploading this :)
amusingseth 7 months ago
The Japanese military was a psyche apart from the Japanese people.
deriter64 8 months ago
Henry Fonda, Charles Bronson, Dennis Weaver, Eli Wallach and Lee Van Cleef are said to have served Pacific WW2. Anyone else? Not John Watne though lol!
Noodles37UK 8 months ago
Nagasaki + Hiroshima = Payback's a bitch !!!
NamVetBuck 10 months ago
Everyone should read The Rising Sun The rise and decline of the Japanes Empire, as well as Soldiers of the Sun. Great reads that give an awesome look into Japanes politics, the psyche of the Japanes military, and shed light on reasons for the War
MikeElder1991 10 months ago
@MikeElder1991 OK: I made a note of the titles you suggested. I believe the 20th Century involvement of the Japanese Army in politics is often referred to as Kurai Tanima (the Dark Valley). Also worth reading is 'Lesser Gods, Greater Devils' by Arthur Lane, who describes his experiences as an allied soldier during the period; provocative and horrifying stuff but a worthwhile perspective of an individual 'squaddie'
elrjames777 7 months ago
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@interlope....your the reasopn the world still has bloodshed and must pay the price with lives of ita armed forces........and for the record, resources won the war. Even if Japan had been more successful at Midway, they could not produce wat America could. It is a shame because the knowledge Tsuji, Yamamoto, and the other Japanese Navy figures could have provided us knowledge that was unpararelled in the world.......
MikeElder1991 10 months ago
@interlope....your the reasopn the world still has bloodshed and must pay the price with lives of ita armed forces........and for the record, resources won the war. Even if Japan had been more successful at Midway, they could not produce wat America could. It is a shame because the knowledge Tsuji, Yamamoto, and the other Japanese Navy figures could have provided us knowledge that was unpararelled in the world.......
MikeElder1991 10 months ago
Interloper83: you are a short sighted poorly informed nitwit, there is only one (1) race of people on the earth that would be the human race!!!your racist argument is specious. To fight for ones existence and liberty is good and honorable, the japanese had been trying to destroy China to rule them and their natural resources then they turned on the America for the same reason. Hitler and his backers planned on ruling the world with no liberty for their subjects! Much like the democrats now!!
hogup250 11 months ago
Japanese people all have small penis, that's why the Jap-Devils lost the war
SachaVassilevsky 1 year ago
The bottom line is..., The Battle of Midway was won because Rear Admiral Raymond Spruance was true high stakes 'poker player'. He went 'All-In' with his cards. Not many would dare to do what Spruance had done. He had committed ALL his planes to strike & destroy all 4 of the Japanese Aircraft Carriers. A very bold move & gamble indeed.
By observing this documentary it is obvious this single bold move & gamble by Spruance had altered the whole course of battle history in The Pacific.
myway12345 1 year ago
models are all wrong....they have wildcats dive bombing......and the canted smoke stacks were only on Junyo and Hiyo during this phase of the war....all their ships had rear facing, or huge horizontal smoke stacks on their sides......
crpdst2003 1 year ago
5:19 loose tire there ;)
xXdenee 1 year ago 8
5 minutes changed the whole balance of power in the pacific.... Like Hastings and Waterloo one of the greatest battles of the human race.
randylucky 1 year ago
My problem with this pair is they try to make war seem virtuous by their tone.
MrJuno6 1 year ago
The jap should've broght all their carriers, battleships and the Yamato battleships to the Midway.
runrunforest1 1 year ago
@runrunforest1, at the time of Midway, they only had 6 fleet carriers. 1 was badly damaged and the other needed new aircrews. Two light carriers were up north attacking the Aleutian Islands. There Were two light carriers at Midway, but in support of the transports, one of which only carried 12 aircraft.
The Yamato was at Midway, but not with the main strike force.
(continued)
Tebok73509 1 year ago
@runrunforest1 (continue) The Japanese did figure the US would pursue them after they sunk the 4 carriers and hoped to lure them into surface action, but the U.S decided no give chase. This episode didn't mention it, but on the 6th of June, they U.S did sink an additional ship - a Heavy Cruiser that was damaged in a collision with another cruiser.
Admiral Yamamoto overcomplicated the Midway invasion. His forces were scattered rather then being grouped. Read up on it :)
Tebok73509 1 year ago
After this battle, japan only had 2 of her remaining heavy carriers, Shokaku and Zuikaku. Both of which would continue to harass and sink the hornet later in the Battle of Santa Cruz islands. Just imagine if Nagumo would have bunched all 6 of Japan's best carriers in the battle of midway.
tool619 1 year ago
@tool619 ahh yes, then Nagumo would've lost 6 carriers instead of only 4!!
WrathofWotan 1 year ago
@WrathofWotan
LOL but true!
castortroy176 1 year ago
@tool619 Shokaku was heavily damaged and the Battle of the Coral Sea and Zuikaku, while undamaged, lost so many aircrew that she had only enough to fly a dozen planes, very understrength. The Japanese didn't have replacement crews to take up the slack so Z. was not included in the force. If both had been there with full crews this battle could have ended up ugly for both sides.
roadrodent1952 1 year ago
Gents, so what are we going to do about the Chinese carrier killer missile?
telecom79 1 year ago
@telecom79
Phalanx.
Darkrunner1975 1 year ago
@telecom79 and the Goalkeeper.
mooseasaurusrex 1 year ago
@telecom79
hope the US and china never go to war cause we all know what would happen if that happens.
all chinas allies will join and all the US's allies will join creating another world war or not?
donsargent 1 year ago
@donsargent i think if we do go to war usa allies would win bc in the end bc of past war experiances with china and than after it would start another iraq/afganistain were we just stay there indefinently prity much. it depends if china uses nukes and resistant groups there. thanks to obama if we do get attacked we wont use nukes right away only as a last resort. so if we do go to war and allies on both sides fight each other the usa wont be the ones who start a nuke war bc of the new policy.
TonPappa 1 year ago
@telecom79 AEGIS
achmedthedeadterror5 1 year ago
Of course we are all humans man! Haha! We share 100% of the Fucking DNA! Know what will unite the stupid HUMAN Race? An attack from a fucking super advanced extraterrestrial alien race out to annihilate our entire HUMAN civilization the way the conquistadors annihilated the AZTECS!
melwabz 1 year ago
Of we are all human man. haha! Know what would unite the whole stupid human RACE? An attack from Extraterrestrials!
melwabz 1 year ago
japanese mistakes.. tsk tsk. u.s. will always prevail #1
edkim94 1 year ago
the war declared by japan to U.S was kind of a suicide mission, after pearl harbour attack yamamoto predicted japanese superiority only for 6 months before being outmatched by power of american economy and industry
carig121 1 year ago
FABULOUS. I feel like standinbg up and doing an ovation. Congrats to the ppl who made this.
Ramoa111 1 year ago
darn that Yorktown is a tough ship
vk45de 1 year ago
@vk45de
It sure can take a lot of punishment.
askjiir 1 year ago
thekrazeone the ijn had added to midway that didn't help matters at all
thekrazeone 1 year ago
BBC owns
AbhinderShinda 1 year ago
the atomic bomb was total genocide from the americans
ShinigamixXXx 1 year ago
@ShinigamixXXx the two atomic bombs dropped on japan saved more japanese lives then it took. If you want tot talk about responsabilty for the usless deaths of so many japanese people then you need to look at the leaders of the japanese.
discgolfer92 1 year ago
@discgolfer92 The atomic should have been only used as a threat, it shouldnt have been used as a weapon. Even the creator of the bomb protested the use of it
ShinigamixXXx 1 year ago
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beeceesp 1 year ago
@discgolfer92 You are right - millions could die repelling invasion on the main japanese islands. There was a plan called "Ketsu-go", to send every single japanese man (even unarmed) against US invasion forces.
HaganDave 1 year ago
@discgolfer92 thats jibberish if you have learned about the japanese its that they believe dying for the emperor was the most greatest honour
ShinigamixXXx 1 year ago
@ShinigamixXXx There are alot of lessons to be learned from WWII. Japanese national leadership should have recognized and admitted defeat before the atom bombs were used; clearly they were pushed back. You can try and cast blame on the US but look at who started the aggression. That being said, I think its also time for the US to pull bases out of Japan for many reasons, one of which being the negative sentiments like yours whether justified or not.
KyleRoku 1 year ago
@KyleRoku but how can u say that to a ppl who believed dying for his country is the greatest honour, the fact is the emperor was a coward who didnt really know whats best for his ppl and he alone surrendered while the rest of the japanese ppl where still willing to fight.
ShinigamixXXx 1 year ago
@ShinigamixXXx . your people would have fought to the death in a conventional war and milllions more would have been killed. and on top of this, the russians would have invaded and japan would be divided like korea is today. it had to be done to end the insanity.
nomadnametab 1 year ago
@nomadnametab hmm why should u care about the japanese ppl when back then no one hesitated on dropping 2 atomic bombs. Also the complete surrender of japan wasnt the voice of the ppl. most of the japanese were willing to fight to the bitter end rather then losing their honour. But still it was a losing battle.
ShinigamixXXx 1 year ago
@ShinigamixXXx the japanese never wanted to take on the US. like today it had more to do with Oil. japan still today is totally dependent on import of oil nearly 90%. in ww2 the US had embargo against japan so clearly war had to occur. and today japan is protected by the US. with out the US being on japan soil russia would have invaded after the war.if you want to go deep then the embargo was a excuse for the US to enter the war knowing japan would attack.
xwingclass 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading!
ELITEnoOBno2 1 year ago
Incredible mistakes of Japanese commanders one after another led to the devastating result. The destiny of the empire was sealed within minutes.
Dimy761 1 year ago
Lol 5:08 the guy said "Grab a bite to eat". :P
LaddieGalicia 1 year ago
Luv the od dude telling us what happen etc etc ! Cool Video & One HELL of a BATTLE
MrPopyotop 1 year ago
What the HELL r u talking about !!!
juszookie26 2 years ago
I think he was impressed by the charisma of the older presentator.
mathematicsarefun 1 year ago
I hear that, must be !!
juszookie26 1 year ago
They make no mention of the USS Hammond that was torpedoed by a Jap sub while along side the Yorktown which was sunk with about 90 US sailors. And also the Yorktown was also hit by a Jap sub torpedo, but still didn't sink! The final blow to the Yorktown came from 2 Jap destroyers, both firing a spread of torpedoes into her, sending her to the bottom.
tommydangerx 2 years ago
Brewster Buffalos, not Wildcats, were the fighters used to defend the airstrip. I think the man with God's briefcase knew it too.
DonkeypunchKSH 2 years ago
how did the hiryu's 2nd strike force not realise that they were hitting the yorktown for a second time, surely they would have seen the damage from the ealier attack, that was a very stuipid mistake
aziqbal 2 years ago
@aziqbal The USS Yorktown's damage control teams were so effective, that they were able to extinguish all the fires and restarted the boilers which allowed Yorktown to steam at an incredible 20 knots.... To the Japs, who thought the Yorktown had gone to the bottom, they thought this was a different carrier... Read Miracle at Midway. :)
tommydangerx 2 years ago
@tommydangerx Yes, US fire teams were drastically superior to the Japanese. During the US dive bomb attacks 1 carrier was hit by 4 or more 1 by 3, and 1 by 1 hit 1 near miss. As you know all 3 were loss. Go US Navy!!!!
Oh it was 80 KIA on USS Hammond and most were killed by their own depth charges going off, unfortunate situation....just FYI
001kb 1 year ago
@001kb The anti-aircraft crews on the US ships were also vastly superior to their counter-parts on the Japanese vessels. The Imperial Navy's AA crews could put up colourful and dense-looking barrages but it was incredible as to how few hits they scored. In both the carrier battles of the Eastern Solomons and Santa Cruz both fought later that same year, not a single US carrier plane was lost to AA-fire from the Imperial Carrier forces.
hill9868 1 year ago
Tommy,
I live in Charleston, SC where the second Yorktown is a museum. Many times you go onboard and will find a vet who served on the first and the second Yorktown. Speaking to them about some of these events is really a mind opening experience. Many are recording their stories for the naval museum. Just being on the second Yorktown is quite an experience, not as big as you might think.
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
@aziqbal The damage on York had been repaired and she was under full steam landi9ng and flying out aircraft. With no smoke and no apparently visible damage the Japanese pilots' error was understandable.
roadrodent1952 1 year ago
We won the battle, the Japs won the war---Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Suizuki, Subaru---need I say more
hetzii 2 years ago
Anime and Manga, Capcom, Casio... :-)
Azulitokun 2 years ago
@hetzii
Getting a Nuke in your face isn't winning.
askjiir 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
americans are punch of pussys your luck will change some day
nokuhobune 2 years ago
lolk
skadwick 2 years ago
Crazy the way racism works. If not careful, all of this derogatory nonsense would coax me into ignorant racism. The key is to no allow anyone or anything to influence your opinion. There has never been a soldier who benefited from going to war. Clearly we are pawns and I for one will not surrender my life for a fight that is not mine. Japan and U.S are distinctions created by men to divide us. Just names because we are all human in the end.
Interloper83 2 years ago 2
No we are not.
TheZuikaku 2 years ago
@Interloper83 wow your a poet congrats
ssgkillsuall 1 year ago
@Interloper83
Fo show man good stuff
KhanStodge 1 year ago
@Interloper83 You are a simple minded self-absorbed moron. Go give yourself a hug.
nightfevers 11 months ago
@Interloper83
Its good to avoid racism.However, you need more than a "war and division(as in national distinctions)" philosophy.If you think that the only reason why Japanese are Japanese and Americans are Americans is because of some conspiracy that treats us as pawns" you aren't going to get very far.It is amazing the serious mistakes people make when in a different culture because they do not appreciate differences.Just check out Americans in action when spending a Spring Break in Mexico.
TangomanX2008 8 months ago
@Interloper83
Thats a nice sentiment, but you need something more robust than a conspiracy differences where National Distinctions are nominal and artificial.Anyone who has ever been to another country knows this. The fact is, these differences are not a result of a conspiracy to make people as pawns.To try to overcome racism with a conspiracy of this nature is to substitute one ignorance for another.
TangomanX2008 8 months ago
@Interloper83 i agree war is a sad business what a waste of life.
MrChristainchris 7 months ago
@Interloper83 The Japanese were only different in degree from NAZI's. Just call a Korean, Japanese. And to see why you just got your ass kicked, look up "comfort women" and "WWII". Today Japan is not likely to attack neighbors nor is Germany. Apparently, they needed that lesson. As for the US, if I had approved of torture in the Iraq conflict, I would not go to Italy or Spain or anywhere else that they actually believe in the Geneva Convention. War crimes trials are a bitch.
AttyCPA1 7 months ago
@Interloper83 you are a pussy all gooks muslims africans and hispanics deserve death and hell for being god less heathans its better and more fun to kill them than waste time into trying to convert them into being christians!!!
riverside496 7 months ago
@riverside496 You are a troll, and a fucking ignorant troll at that.
Burnz2much 5 months ago
@Interloper83
So true. Unfortunately, mass media indoctrinate national pride and hate into the heads of ordinary people. That is why we will always continue to be cannon food for our governments and war lobbyists. We die, few others make profits. Ironically, this is called democracy. The best joke in history.
silverbud 6 months ago
@silverbud Constitutional Republic*
ILikeReallyBigButts 6 months ago
@Interloper83 You seem to speak from inexperience.. I will leave it at that.
Burnz2much 5 months ago
@Interloper83 I see you're spreading your idiotic nonsense here too. lol
cavaleer 4 months ago
@Interloper83 what the fuck are you talking about? you mean we didn't benefit from fighting fascists? what drugs are you on?
topperheartramada 3 months ago
Someone is jealous....
kepler1000 2 years ago
hell yea
starkiller70 2 years ago
Is Estonia even a country or a glorified city? In other words, you mean nothing on the world circuit, so unless you have something intelligent to say (WITH evidence of your claim), crawl back under your Estonian hut and stfu.
medcsu 2 years ago
and nationality are you?
ppavlouk 2 years ago
The attack on Pearl Harbor was a Pussy Move !!
juszookie26 2 years ago
everybody loves to see the aggressor getting his own back WITH interest nice Job USA they bit More than they could chew n got chocked
polygamous1 2 years ago
I think personally, The Japanese miscalculated that they have the power to defeat the United States. When in fact it was going to fight the most powerful country in the world. Their early victories were in fact achieved because of the effect of surprise and because the US forces were unprepared. But when they began to fight on equal terms with the US, as in Attrition, their industry could not hope to match the US. Because they became too Arrogant and ignored achievable goals.
housekeeper25 2 years ago
slappymcgroundout: That explanation makes a lot of sense. Sounds tactical plausible.
Paulwander 2 years ago
A big part for the victory for the US in Midway was due to the damaging hits made to the Zuikaku in the battle of the Coral Sea and the high number of air crews lost there. Nagumo had to contend with US forces on Midway and carriers at the same time. If he had the Zuikaku he could have launched the attack on Midway and had reserves to handle the US carriers. Instead he got caught flat footed with fully loaded aircraft on his decks when the US forces arrived.
covercalls 2 years ago
Actually, Zuikaku didn't get hit at Coral Sea, but it's airwing was decimated. Shokaku was hit by 3 1000lb. bombs. The truth is there weren't any japanese attack aircraft on the deck at the time the SBD,s attacked. They hadn't even began deck spotting operations.
rmstorms 2 years ago
I stand corrected, It was the Shokaku that was hit. About 70 aircrews were lost. Because of this lost Nagumo was short the aircrews necessary to handle the US carriers and Midway at the same time.
covercalls 2 years ago
Fare point. It's always easy to criticize in hindsight.
Paulwander 2 years ago
I swear the Japanese were both arrogant, stupid and constantly ling to their superiors.
It would have made a lot more sense to use this strategy on pearl harbour. I mean why attack it and then not follow through with a land invasion?
Second point, how on earth can the Japanese pilots mistake the Yorktown for the second of the American carriers? The thing would have had a huge plume of smoke coming from it or at least theyd be able to tell from the list.
Paulwander 2 years ago
dude, i agree with ur first statement : "Japanese were both arrogant, stupid and constantly ling to their superiors."
but, on ur second point i disagree, have u been in a japanese dive bomber on that battle and on altitude high enough that u only see the carriers silhouette, u cannot see very small details such us destroyed AA guns or alike, and take into consideration how fast american damage controls can extinguish fires. hope ive enlightened you...
shinnazuka22 2 years ago
Paulwander: The plan was to seize the oil of the Dutch East Indies. Note where the Philippines is on the map. Pearl was attacked first to prevent any reinforcement of Japan's primary target, the Philippines. After knocking out US forces in the PI and seizing the oil of the DE Indies, the plan was to dig in and see what happened, while the army continued its war in China.
slappymcgroundout 2 years ago
The fatal Japanese error was in going beyond that plan. That was the moment when they overreached. First discarding the dig in and so some more move forward, repelled in the Battle of Coral Sea, and then with Shokaku and Zuikaku out of action owing to pilot loss in that carrier engagement, then the next act of the overreach, Midway. They would have lost the war no matter, but they didn't do themselves any favors by their overreaching. Ironically, Yamamoto himself called it victory disease.
slappymcgroundout 2 years ago
good comment, why the hell did they not invade pearl harbor?
Azulitokun 2 years ago
@Azulitokun to far from Japan and their lines of communication. After taking islands closer to Pearl & opening communication lines then an invasion would be more promising. Yet, had they invaded they would won b/c they could have(should have)done more air attacks & then go up into Pearl w/ 18.1" guns blazing & eliminate US forces. Yet w/o possesing other islands, attacks would launch against them& supply ships going to them, plus the men needed to seize & maintane control are need else where
001kb 1 year ago
thanks man... quite reasonable explanation
Azulitokun 1 year ago
let me ask, the vid showed only four carriers, what happened to its escorts?
Azulitokun 2 years ago
This show let me know that USS killed japs in Midway.
Qing1942 2 years ago
i would attack the heavy cruisers then the carriers then if they only had destroyers and subs torpedoes would of kill the japs carriers
650038haig 2 years ago
how many carrier the japanese have totally during the entire ww2 ? only 4?
icool001 2 years ago
No they had 6 carriers! The other 2 were sent back to defend the homeland.
lilbeezy4utoo 2 years ago
@icool001
They built 17 during the war, and had around 8 when the war started. I think.
askjiir 1 year ago
"Good vid. I shudder when I think of the pilots that were downed in the Pacific or of the returning pilots that had no carrier to land on."
winnslaw 2 years ago
the yorktown sould be niknames the invincable ship
Phil1796 2 years ago
THe jap general should of order a reload on stand by right after the attack of midway.instead of waiting for scouts to report back. i guess they fucked up big time
hanvo216 2 years ago
anyways if i was nagumo..i would have ordered to send all 42 destroyers to the enemy carrier and his battleships to the midway island..then what could nimitz do??
upsidedownkill 2 years ago
did he have command of them? remember, it was yamamoto who as commander-in-chief..even if he allowed it, would the attacks be fast enough?
Abrams108 2 years ago
nagumo or yamomoto..i'm not sure which ones..but look..carriers will reach a topspeed op 20 kts..destroyers can reach a topspeed of 42 kts.
and battleships about 26 kts.
so if his battleships took on the island..nagumo didn't needed to arm his reserve planes with bombs.but kept them with anti-ship weapons..once the scout plane spotted the american carrier,,it went like BOOM enterprice..then the main attack bombers would have been rearmed with anti-ship weapons.goodbye hornet and enterprice
upsidedownkill 2 years ago
i mean hornet and yorktown..sorry
upsidedownkill 2 years ago
It could not have worked because the americans could send the rest of their planes to sink the destroyers and battleships. Since all the japanese planes were destroyed, they would have been sitting ducks just like at Pearl Harbour. It would have been a too costly attack for the japs and they could've lost hundreds of thousands of troops (they had infantry ready to land on Midway) for a chance to sink the 2 remaining carriers
hockey6467 2 years ago
They did think of this, but decided the threat of American land & carrier based planes was too great. Battleship Yamato (18.1' guns) has a firing range of 25 miles, B-17s on Midway, and Dive Bombers on Hornet & Enterprise can hit MUCH further that that. Besides, Yorktown was sunk the next day by a Japanese sub - both sides did the right thing to pull out.
MothMizzle 2 years ago
yes..the japanse force was just been beaten by luck..the US always has luck..same in normandy..if the pantzer devision was there instead of calais..there would be no operation market garden..
and was the yamato involved at the batle of midway?? and the b-17 were already destroyed by the countless bombers of the japanese force..
and the yorktown wasn't sunk by a submarine..the japanese did two strikes on it..they thought they sunk 2 carriers..
upsidedownkill 2 years ago
The Yamato was Adm. Yamamoto's flagship in one of the other Japanese task forces. Army B-17s would "claim" severl hits (really scored 0), though in reality high-level bombing of naval targets would prove ineffective. Yorktown WAS bombed twice, the second time due her crew's excelent damage control, and the crew abandoned ship, but she didn't/wouldn't sink - USS Hammann was dispatched to help tow her back to Pearl, But I-168 got to them first and sunk them both.
MothMizzle 2 years ago
ok..cool..i would have never figured this out..lol
upsidedownkill 2 years ago
Actually, after the disaster with the carriers, Yamamoto ordered his surface ships east to try to take out the American carriers. Fletcher Fled from the Yorktown and ceded command to Admiral Spruance. Spruance advance forward to pick up his planes before withdrawing east, knowing that the enemy had superior surface combatants.
The Japanese surface fleet did not catch the American task force and had to withdraw.
A US carrier could hit 32 kts. They had to get new battleships to accompany them.
NoOne3234 2 years ago
and believe me.a carrier could not reach 32 kts..you could figure out without even knowing it..a fast cruiser could barely reach that..but oh well
upsidedownkill 2 years ago 2
Believe me, carriers, which were at first converted from cruisers stripped of their guns and much of their armor, could easily outrun battleships. They had comparable displacement to the original cruisers and comparable propulsion.
Considering the advantages of having a fast moving platform when operating an airwing, they were certainly not 6 kts slower than battleships.
NoOne3234 2 years ago
Unless wind resistance from the carrier deck is significant (it's not), I see no reason why the Lexington couldn't hit that speed. (Actually, she was faster than what I said by 1 or 2 kts.)
NoOne3234 2 years ago
Note: I know Lexington was out, but it's a good example of a converted ship.
NoOne3234 2 years ago
wow..i hate to say this.but you are right..i checked it on google andthey said the yorktown could reach a top speed of 32 kts..according to me..that really fast lol..sorry for the asted time though
upsidedownkill 2 years ago
Did a bit of research, you are incorrect. The USS Enterprise had a top speed of 32.5 knots (About 37 mile per hour). Yorktown and Hornet were the same class as Enterprise so they had to have the same top speeds.
roadrodent1952 2 years ago 3
wow..i cando bit of esearch too..you are incorrect..the enterprise cold rech a top speel of 32.427 kts..about 37 miles per hour.imean..whatever what is o,5 kts?
upsidedownkill 2 years ago
Excuse me, fool, but in your earlier post you said that the carrier(s) couldn't reach a speed of 32 knots. Make up your idiot mind and admit that you were 1) wrong in your statement and 2) therefore a fool/idiot.
roadrodent1952 2 years ago
yes i did..but hey you are wrong as well..you wanker..off course i said 32 kts because none cae about the very details of the details..go fuck yourself..(1 there fore an idiot yourself
upsidedownkill 2 years ago
Do you have down syndrome?
kevbis 2 years ago
@roadrodent1952 it was operational again which means not the best it could do but it could still go. thats what he said. i know its a year old comment but i hate it when people dont watch the video and think they know more than the guys who do it for a living.
TonPappa 1 year ago
@roadrodent1952 except for the fact that the Enterprise had been refitted with several chicago pianos and other things so its difficult to determine its true top speed especially with so many variables, I'm not saying your wrong I'm just saying that the Enterprise was eventually sorta in a class of its own especially since all they was creating after awhile was Essex class carriers.
de4th1snt3nough 1 year ago
@de4th1snt3nough
The weight of the 1.1 inchers ("Chicago Pianos", darn things were notorious for one or more barrels jamming!) would have very little effect on the ship's speed so with no damage the Big "E" most likely could hold pretty close to her top rated speed.
Enterprise, Yorktown, and Hornet were of the same class and were superceeded by the Essex class carriers that came later (and they were rated at 32.7, vs 32.5 for "E", knots of speed).
roadrodent1952 1 year ago
And seeing events after Midway that failure have more severe consequences for Japanese Navy as only loss of elite pilots and sailors from those Carriers.
In that battle Japan lost also trust in her invincibility and i believe that was the biggest American victory at the Pacific witch irreversable altered course of that war until final act of capitulation in September 1945.
Qusza2007 2 years ago
This battle could have different turnout if Nagumo will lisening advice of ViceAdm Yamaguchi (Commander of the Carrier Hiryu) and lauch his planes right after first signal about US ships(what Spruance do) then who knowns what will happend..
And biggest mistake made by Japan Admirality was left untouch Zuikaku in harbor when his fighters might give entire Task Force massive fighter air cover(heck they could even put only fighters on board making her as Air Support Only Carrier).
Qusza2007 2 years ago
And to finnish, who torpedoed the Maine?
US accused spain and took over Cuba.
But the Spanish navy was obsolete, at least the Japs has superiority when they attack Pearl Harbor.
In the following Cuban war US navy ships thrashed the Spanish.
So if anyone did gain from the Main dead, was the US who expelled Spain and took Cuba under its wing.
So please do give me your spin on all this, Was it really a "lucky coincidence" that the carriers left Pearl Harbor the day before the attack????
cgonzalezdelhoyo 2 years ago
Bush used the attack on the Twin Towers as casus beli to hunt Saddam, despite there was no link.
There was the incident of the Gulf of Tonkin, which lead to full military intervention in Vietnam and has been proben to have been a load of miss information taken out of proportions.
In the first world war, germany put adverts in US news paper warning not to board the lusitania, it was staged so that the Germans had no alternative but to torpedo it.
cgonzalezdelhoyo 2 years ago
The big White Lie.
I am no fan of conspiracy theories, but sometimes the simplest explanation leaves wanting.
There is a lot of material pointing to the idea that at best the US top brass had a good idea of what was brewing, short of the exact dates it was a response to the oil embargo was expected...
There is plenty of historical precedents, from Ceaser to Bush: it doesnt look good if you hit first.
cgonzalezdelhoyo 2 years ago
jap junk
gotcha109 3 years ago
I had some videos saved on favorites with a documentary about the B24 Liberators, but they got deleted. But it was a very good video, and the plane was the only Bomber that could be used for so many rolls, and hold a ton of cargo (bombs and or supplies) and fly i think 3000 miles or so on one tank. It could hold i think up to like 2000 or so pounds of bombs, and crew of 8 or 10 or so? it was literally like a flying tank, and if you type in "B24 Liberator", go to the documentary that has 4 parts
WingsofGold4045 3 years ago
But R.I.P. to the brave people who lost their lives. Not only at Pearl Harbor, but Midway (and the rest of the Pacific War). We lost about 3000 at PH. They lost about 3000 at Midway. Not to mention, all 4 of their carriers (for our 1)... Payback is ever so sweet. (But at a price in this case)
WingsofGold4045 3 years ago
Yes, it's amazing how Midway was fought. Really,if you think about it, everyone involved really did'nt know what they were doing in a strategic sense since this kind of battle was so new. IMHO, the IJN would have never won there. They did'nt have enough planes for recon.
lemonite1 3 years ago
Yes. Also, the Japs landed I think 5,000 some odd troops in Alaska, the only attack made on u.s. soil by a foreign enemy and the initial plan was to have an attack platform to northern parts of the u.s. (have ports there for ships and also long range bombers). But it was not shortly after the Americans sent about 20,000 or more troops to take it over. Because later on, the U.S. used the Alaskan islands as a major airfield to hit the Japanese with B24 Liberators (a long range heavy bomber)
WingsofGold4045 3 years ago
Personally, I like Dogfights and Battlefield 360 shows, but this one is decent too.... But eventhough some/few of the ships were salvaged and made seaworthy, it took months to recover. The U.S. had to make a quick decision and they made a good decision by striking back as soon as possibe. Because if the Japanese started heading home, it would have been suicide to try and fight them at their door step. With luck and the guts of the men out there, they managed the impossible.
WingsofGold4045 3 years ago
The 2 biggest myths about Midway is 1.The importance of cracking the code. Yamamoto was pissed after PH that the carriers were'nt sunk. He wanted a confrontation with the USN. He originally planned for an invasion of Australia but the plan was nixed by an uncooperative IJA. He had to settle for Midway. Midway was not intended to be used as a stepping stone to another PH attack, as it's tiny airfield can only support 90 aircraft.
lemonite1 3 years ago
2.The attack on Alaska was a way to lure out the USN. Nagumo's plan was to draw out the USN by a direct attack on Midway, not Aleutian. If the attack on Alaska was a ploy, why did'nt they start the attack 1 week earlier? Why was Nagumo given direct orders to only attack Midway once? If Midway was such a big prize, where was the IJA landing party. Why was there no scout subs used like PH? Yamamoto felt that Midway was a huge risk because of this compromise. He was right.
lemonite1 3 years ago
The Japanese force headed to Alaska was to make the U.S. go after them, to leave PH open for attack.Not Midway. The Japanese attacked Midway after PH.There woulda been no point to attack a small airfield first, when the Mass of the U.S. Pacific Fleet was a few clicks (couple hundred miles) east of Midway.The U.S. carriers, from what I heard/know, were about 300-500 miles outside of Hawaii, and even though PH was hit hard. I believe a few of the ships were salvaged and recomissioned to seaworthy
WingsofGold4045 3 years ago
Maybe, a very good point made.The only problem is that why was there no landing party at Midway?The time it would've taken for USN task force to sail up to Alaska, engage IJN, and sail back may be not enough time to set up landing party on Midway to prepare for 2nd attack on PH.Nagumo knew that PH's military strength had quadrupled since the 1st attack on PH and a 2nd attack would be too late.The IJA was stretched too thin in Manchuria/Burma at that time and had not recovered from Palmeira ruse.
lemonite1 3 years ago
In the book Shattered Sword, it suggests that the attack on Alaska was merely a freebie while the brunt of Kido Butai engaged USN.Also, with PH being immensely fortified since 1st attack, Yamamoto might have considered attacking Seattle, a smaller, albeit very important port for USN.Alaska would be an obvious position for that attack. You are right though, the IJN did consider the fact that the destruction on PH was relatively light and that many of the valuable ships were recomissioned.
lemonite1 3 years ago
This is wrong! The Hiryu went into damage control, attempting to pick up suriving seamen and pilots lost from the other carriers. After the 2nd attack, it turned 240 dgs. port and circled the other damaged ships. it then headed 70dgs into the wind. No, they did'nt think that they sunk 2 carriers and no, they were not resting.
lemonite1 3 years ago
i don't think this is an accurate account of Midway. it exemplifies alot of myth that surrounds that day.
lemonite1 3 years ago
Nice documentary although the Battle Field ones are far more elaborate and in dept.
saigokun 3 years ago
Nuclear Age???????????
CoastJumper 3 years ago
Yeah...the time when nuclear weapons and technology proliferated.
Icarusdecending82 3 years ago
ok video dude but i like that its realist and the plane got its wing shot off
SsEnterprise50 3 years ago
Great series. The hosts of this series also did a series called "Battlefield Britain". That is also a great series.
Steve17010 3 years ago