Let's Play Kerbal Space Program #13 - Dangerous Times

[andysim232]

check out Orbiter hehe. its a fully developed space sim for grown ups. and 100% free.

[matt81093]

Awesome, love the space craft. Love to see what's next ^ ^ - And flying out into space with no orbit would stink

[Mocha2007andcoco]

GUYS stop asking for part 14. He already said that he won't be doing this anymore.

[MASKIN321]

@Mocha2007andcoco 15 episodes bro.

[Mocha2007andcoco]

@MASKIN321 Well, now.

[darkcarnage1234]

No new episodes? I am sad... =(

[sysouvanh]

ZOOM straight to the planet!

[Shinzon23]

Good job with the mun launch, I keep screwing up my insertion burns!

[Grenhoff]

the physics doesn't change at all. However, the predicted orbit on the map screen doesn't account for moving objects. As the moon moves, so does the actual path of your spacecraft. The displayed orbit, however, shows you the path you would take if the moon doesn't move. It's not an issue with physics. Just with prediction on the map.

[PizzaPirateNinja8128]

The angle you were coming in, the capsule would have skipped right off the atmosphere.

[UBERDHOKER]

@PizzaPirateNinja8128 they havent rly worked out the atmosphere too much

[PizzaPirateNinja8128]

@UBERDHOKER Oh, I know, I was just stating that.

[KingDmovies]

He isn't a asshole!!

[KingDmovies]

When comes the next part?

[Aureas86]

Wheres part 14? ASSHOLE!

[thegamenumberJ]

I am a farlander! :D

[powerminer2]

Kurt, Apparently you need to land on land to get an official mission end, landing in the ocean doesn't count.

[Pingonauter]

@powerminer2 I've landed on land and don't get an official end. It just usually doesn't work.

[powerminer2]

@Pingonauter yeah maybe its a certain altitude its fine though

[superotherguy1]

Kurtjmac!!! It is NOT accurate!!! Wait till they get their shit fixed, I could prove it in Orbiter 2010 xD

[ice277man]

now use some add ons

[MiniGeek31337]

There watch?v=CeTxNfWK7W0&list=UUbQb­B9patxkxZseb7Mc-6Fg&index=2&fe­ature=plcp

[MiniGeek31337]

Haha, the same happened to WinterOwl

[bestfolder]

Next time land on the moon!

[chenzo55BETA]

Ha stuck between the Mun and his home base

[S3maxime16]

Hey Kurt! Like pretty much everyone, I really enjoy this series. In my opinion, you should have this to a main series along with FLOB. Also I would like to see you get involved in the mindcrack servers, and you know, doing projects with the other guys (pause, beef, etc). Of course you are free to do what you want and I will watch your stuff anyway, but thats just my personal point of view ;P .

[TheXurol]

Onyuvideo!

[Adamantium9001]

I think the orbital physics *seem* so messed up because of inaccuracies in the projected trajectory. Here are my #{theories} and ({evidence}):

1. It does not account for atmospheric drag. (You have to overshoot your landing spot)

2. It shows what WOULD happen if the object you're currently closest to was the only one in the universe (sudden changes when approaching something)

3. It is drawn RELATIVE to that object (the projection of your lunar orbit "moved" with the moon as IT orbited Kerbin)

[eeveedude632]

@Adamantium9001 its also a video game

[1478zx]

@Adamantium9001 You've been correct about everything, except for the 1st one. It does account for atmospheric drag.

[StelarCF]

@1478zx he means the orbital map doesn't account for athmospheric drag.... -_-

[MeeshuCraft]

You REALLY need to look up or play EVE online. I think you'd really enjoy it. I'm sure you've heard of it, and if you haven't, you're really missing out. It's super extensive, you'd be amazed.

[lagerdalek]

Ground control to Major Tom ...

[MrTDWfan]

Kurt, on the 12th you lost 400 subs. Why?

[swan5753]

@MrTDWfan youtube deleted all inactive accounts on youtube on the 12th so alot of people lost some subs

[Coastergeekperson04]

Isn't it ironic that the most nerve-wrenching moment of the mission happened in episode THIRTEEN?

[LonMcGregor]

is there a way you could put up the save file fo your spaceship?

[Baratheon12]

now send them to the sun

[DannyShaubolo]

or you could just make the rocket face the planet and use a little of your fuel to get there, its not that hard, really!

[BlackFlame208]

Here's a serious question. Is that proper physics when you're heading in one direction, and the pull of an object makes you head in the other direction? If it is how fast do you need to be going to avoid being pulled into the orbit of kerbin?

[BlackFlame208]

Orbit the sun after you conquer the moon. Make it so the final episode for this series, you send them flying into the sun... Be evil kurt. Be evil!!!

[gaktasa]

i would enjoy some more episodes, yes.

[kukukai1]

Are there any other more planets rather then kerbin?

[Dragonfree97]

@kukukai1 Not yet.

[kukukai1]

@Dragonfree97 ok thanks for info

[robertmbishop]

Retro-burn - it's like a normal burn but with a early 80s feel.

[jechet10]

Hey Kurt: i dare you to try to crash into the sun! Just launch off in any direction untill the game puts you into an orbit around the sun, then from there you should be able to smash into it fairly easyly.

[edgecutterman]

It's interesting to see that both Kurt and TheWinterOwl made the same mistakes.

[n7275]

KURT: LISTEN UP: THE PHYSICS SYSTEM DIDN'T CHANGE, ONLY THE ORBITAL REFERENCE BODY IN THE ORBIT DRAWING PROGRAM. IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, YOU'LL FIND THAT MOMENTUM IS CONSERVED ACROSS THE CHANGE

[MrWasjig]

Congrats Kurt, on your first successful Munar Orbit Mission

-Simon ^_^

[callanrockslol]

he should have slingshotted off the moon to get back to earth, or he ends up flying into space

[JDLENL]

@callanrockslol

Not flying into space, he'd start orbiting the Sun.

It's happened to me twice; NOT fun. :l

[shimmythejj]

The physics system in Kerbin is fairly accurate, the problem you are having is that the map view is switching its point of reference as soon as you enter and leave the Mun's gravitational sphere of influence. So the green line will (try to) show you your trajectory in relation to the closest object. Also when leaving Mun orbit you have to take into account that the Mun is moving around Kerbin and you will inherit the velocity.

[n7275]

@shimmythejj Yeah, no one seems to get this for some reason. I've played Orbiter for years so I know, but I guess it's not intuitive.

[annihilatrix087]

Earth...Kerbin same thing.

[Metallion98]

Bill and Bob have seen Kurt's other Let's Plays before the mission. That's why they're so worried.

[t0rchicTerraria]

You should go to the Kerbal System Far Lands :D Maybe it'll be a big stack of Muns

[AgentG128]

What about the livestream? Wasn't it for 10 hours?

[bruzewski]

I'm not sure how many planets are actually ingame, but you should go to a far one.

[spikerdude111]

@bruzewski there is only kerbin and thee moon at the moment, there will be more planets in a later update.

[ILGAR93]

@bruzewski

the devs are thinking of adding a mars-like planet

[jayprice0505]

You forgot the moon orbits didnt you. FUCK

[xMorgasm92]

Now pack up some food and send them west for the next 24 years :p

[SSTTEEAALLTTHH]

@xMorgasm92

No West in space though.

[Mahkia]

Kerbin has an area that looks like Italy, too.

[Mocha2007andcoco]

The farthest I've gone from Kerbol/Kerbin Prime is 24,000,000,000 M. BEAT THAT!

[edgecutterman]

@Mocha2007andcoco Isn't that easy? Just get on escape velocity and fast forward a lot. Ofcourse, unless you came back from that distance, then I think it's ... pretty impressive?

[GTHarmon87]

Bill and Bob are always ticked off because KSP didn't invent Tang yet.

[harpiesd96]

Mr. Snarky Yellow Text is in Kerbal Space Program too?

[Maximillios]

New series; Kurt send his astronauts to the nearest kerb(earth) like planet in hope of finding sentient life. With any luck it'll be done a little after farlands.

[roosterinorbit]

@SanctionEnvy I don't get it, help please

[NGBmameman]

@SanctionEnvy Your server is boring, the guards dont even do anything

[ferkyou420]

C7 space plane mod thing!

[Coastergeekperson04]

Like if you agree.

[PabloLeChuck]

Very good kurt! I like this series very much

[TheShaolinDoctor]

Jebediah is a real party animal. or nut job.

[Darkscythe3k]

I just put myself in orbit around the sun by accedent, so you can do that I guess, It's probobly possible to crash into the sun, but I didn't try that

[jgood56]

@TheRasheedWallace Why won't you learn proper grammar and spelling? I have no idea either!

[TheRasheedWallace]

Why kurt no go in strait line? I has no idea.

[joyjumper14]

@Ficehdulah end of the last KSP episode, not this one

[mrhunam]

Hell of a mission Commander Kurt. Hell of a mission.

[EnDSchultz1]

Ah, so I was right. If saw my comment in the last video. By burning on the opposite side of the Mun from Kerbin, you were actually increasing your orbit, around Kerbin. You were burning prograde relative to your orbit around Mun, but you also burned prograde relative to your orbit around Kerbin (by burning in the same direction the Mun was traveling), so once you left the Mun's gravity, you saw your "real" orbit, high apoapsis and all.

[EnDSchultz1]

@EnDSchultz1 (cont.)

Another note, there's nothing wrong with re-entering Kerban atmosphere directly from the Mun; that's how Apollo did it: At about 10km/s velocity as opposed to the 7.7km/s they would have had if they'd burned their way into LEO first.

[EnDSchultz1]

@EnDSchultz1 (Cont. AGAIN)

And pro-tip: Hitting caps-lock will set your controls into a more precise mode, indicated by the control deflection tabs in the lower left turning blue instead of orange.

[Minechomp]

5 people are soul-less dicks.

[MBChilladin]

Kurt i have a special model rocket that takes pictures do you want it?

[Katalliaan]

Also, in terms of the orbital weirdness - the game's orbits are based on being in an object's sphere of influence. Harvester had to choose between a more realistic but more demanding n-body system, or a less realistic but less demanding gravity-switching system. In other words, there's no such thing as a Lagrange point in the Kerbal universe, and you get weird orbit switching like you experienced in the video.

[Katalliaan]

I'd suggest checking out the C-7 Flight Pack (and the experimental stuff from the same guy) if you're doing anything in-atmosphere. They're balanced around in-atmosphere flight, though, so they'll feel too powerful if you take them into space.

[Serratus648]

Kurt, at reentry turn off SAS and let the capsule align itself thanks to aerodynamics. Just use 'f' key to erase any wobbling now and then. Aside from that you don't need to do anything except deploy 'shut.

[tommyk1210]

@NPHoag the X key cuts the engines off immediately :) so you can stop your apo/peri-apsis shrinking or growing any more :)

[desolatetree]

The same thing happened to TheWinterOwl

[TheXurol]

@vierkantor actually, having done it many times myself, I can say it requires very little fuel. Just push your apoapsis along Kerbins orbit behind it, and once you are far enough away, done! Solar orbit. It's not an accomplishment, it's a failure.

[vierkantor]

@frazinator97 It IS possible, just requires loads of fuel.

[pepijnd2]

@vierkantor not in this game right now

[este5454]

my name is tony gonzales and i dontgive a shit if your a mormon

[cptorangutang2]

Actually it isn't accurate, since in reality both kerbin and the mun would be excersising gravitational forces on your ship, the game only handles single body gravitation. (ie. you can only "orbit" one heavenly body at a time"

[Serratus648]

@cptorangutang2 The game handles both but displays only trajectory for dominant gravity source to keep it simple. It doesn't however project the future trajectory depending on gravity sources movement. It only shows here&now situation.

[NPHoag]

I would have laughed my ass off if he had forgotten a parachute

[e178058]

is it bad that i got stuck in mun orbit with no rcs or regular fuel :|

[Charleswentpow]

@e178058 Yes! That is bad!

[NPHoag]

why does he keep using the x button? the control button also cuts down thrust

[desolatetree]

@NPHoag x stops it immediately.

[viva0la0life]

@NPHoag

X cuts it completely, rather than lowering it.

[sodas76]

Did anyone one else hear the second kurt in the background at the end?

[MrThundashadez]

Do a solar orbit!

[frazinator97]

@MrThundashadez its impossible at this stage in the game

[thecocoabeans1]

you should land on the moon

[gamers209]

Kurt you must get Nova Silsko's pack, one he has a monopoly on parts, two they look pretty damn good.

[felixar90]

Good point on knowing what is a Lagrange point

[VIABellum]

Darn! 303 views!

[Swkoll]

New title: In which everything goes horribly wrong

[mitchel121996]

What about orbiting the sun?

[robot797]

@mitchel121996 easy

[cutslasher]

The direction of motion doesn't change suddenly. Remember that the moon is moving as well, so the moon orbit they show is relative to the moon and not the earth

[MichaelC429]

I really hope you do all of the mods. I love watching you play this game!!!

[QualityAction]

"We Might be in Orbit for a little longer" I'm very glad I'm not a Kerbal.

[exodus9001]

Gawd. The 'Mun' at the end look like it was giving you a creeper smile. < -<

[Owner2105]

Doing some quick conversions, I have reached a startling conclusion.

Apparently the top speed he achieved was just over 3000 m/s.

That is equivalent to 6700 miles per hour.

Also, that over 10x the speed of sound.

Kurt, your rocket has managed to surpass mach 10.

Congratulations.

[exodus9001]

@Owner2105 Damn. Kerbin has some advanced technology, apparently.

[felixar90]

@Owner2105 He reached that speed only out of the atmosphere. You can go at any speed when there's no air, but you can't count that in mach.

[Misterspork57]

@Owner2105 Well, there isn't really any drag in space, or any sound. So mach isn't really a good way to measure speed, and because there isn't any drag there isn't really a "top speed" for any spacecraft. And the space shuttle usually comes(or came I suppose you can say now) in at about 8,000 m/s.

[LowenTheWolf]

You should try a close orbit to the sun.

[Ryanpkmn]

@LowenTheWolf The Kerbals aren't happy when you plunge them into the sun.

[Thermalburn]

@LowenTheWolf can u actually orbit the sun? I thought the sun was just a singularity and doesnt "actually" exist...

[zupernam]

@Thermalburn no, you cannot. he wants him to try, and then crash and implode, which is pretty much what happens when you try to get anywhere near the sun / past the moon.

[antiMatterDynamit]

can you imagine nasa saying we know the astronauts are somewhere in this ocean

find them befor they run out of food or oxygen - because theyr at the bottom of the ocean

[mutevampire]

Bill and Bob are always panicking because Jeb is at the controls. Look at Jeb and tell me you wouldn't panic too.

[TheVurnPL]

It feels weird seeing The Snarky Yellow Text in a game that's not Minecraft, lol

[Surells]

What's that? It's an inanimate carbon rod!

[0ptimistPrim3]

Congratulations Kurt!

Will you continue making LPs after you're head hunted by Virgin Galactic?

[TBlenx1995]

I played "We are the Champions" over the landing sequence.

[TheUltraGamerGuy]

Now land on the moon!

[SilverRedix1]

Do you mind uploading the Farlander IX ?

[theyxaj]

The snarky yellow text made an appearance!

[AK47CRAZE]

Kurt, your orbit is changing because your trying to race the mun... haed the opposite direction of the mun.

[MrTURBOJOHN]

@AK47CRAZE WHY U NO SEE THE VIDEO BEFORE YOU COMMENT?

[Docillamanilla]

i enjoy these videos soo much! thank you as always kurt!

[Lanttyrantis]

Congratulations Kurt, unfortunately the President of the United Reagencies of Kubania has promised in his latest campaign you will place a Kerban on the Mun in 10 days. Best of luck!

[SSTTEEAALLTTHH]

In the real moon missions, didn't they have to decouple to module, turn around and dock to the LAM, pull it out etc?

I wonder if that's in the add-ons. That's going to require some good maneuvering...

[martianmuppet]

Shoulda used your remaining fuel to drop in next to your own continent, insted of seperating

to soon.

But no matter, huzzaahh!!!

Another cool episode Kurt, Bill, Jeb and Bob.

[MrTDWfan]

Stage 5.

Thumbs up if you stuck around on the livestream for that part.

[Jackamatack]

@MrTDWfan Stage 5 was hilarious xD

[MrZombieBiscuit]

Kerbin day is 6 hours Kurt.

So your guys were in orbit for 3.5 Kerbin days.

[Tiagofvarela]

@MrZombieBiscuit I bet they were hungry...

[MrZombieBiscuit]

@Tiagofvarela 4 kerbonauts disliked this video because they got hungry xD

[MrWowyourcooll]

I think most dislikers are either just haters, or people who go by OMFG DO MOAR MINECRAFT or IDK THAT GAME SO I JUST DISLIKE!!!

I mean, seriously, how can you dislike this? Reply if you disliked :D

[jie332211]

@copking12 people disliked before the video could be possibly done so they just do it for no good reason

[MrChriselicious]

Do you take mission :P ?

[jie332211]

i have a theory any one that disliked is to young to be on the internet 

[StudioSloppy]

@jie332211 I remember when i was as young as you and thought the same the same thing

[jerrythedutchmapler]

@jie332211 People can't help it that their favorite color is red ;)

[FruitySCB]

@jie332211 I have a theory; anyone that disliked is too young to be on the internet.

[OscarApollo]

@jie332211 Either that or they have the mental age of someone who is.

[wrestlingforme1]

@jie332211 Or perhaps they disliked because its a opinion? I mean,I like kurts videos,but people have their own opinions.

[MrArr1999]

@jie332211 ok so under 12's then because i am 12 and i liked it

[rokkarokkaali]

@jie332211 Hi child

[jie332211]

OK now that it is possible to watch the whole video you can dislike (but you will still be a shame to your family)

[copking12]

@jie332211 i dont understand what your trying to say

[ThaRemo1995]

are you planning something special for your 250th video?

[jie332211]

cool a good lightsaber

[kralle98]

When i started this video there was 0 views and 2 comments

Now is there 303 views and 46 comments

[jie332211]

i was the 8 viewer and now there are 304 man