16 Workers Die Per Day Because of Employer Negligence

[DennyTattoos]

American workers believe that there are safeguards in place should they become injure or made ill on the job. It is unfortunate that you have to be seriously injured or disabled to find out how the safeguards are in place to protect the employer. Workers Compensation was originally designed to be a no fault insurance. It has developed into a scam to protect the rich.

[GHAZI096]

fuck usa

[Leonicdragon]

What they aren't telling you is that companies will either outsource or raise the prices of their goods and services in order to cover the cost of OSHA compliance. yes it is horrible that people are dying, but at the same time, they CHOSE that dangerous job and they should have known the dangers of it. The problem is that this is not news; people die every day in other countries like China but I guess we aren't supposed to care as long as it is not an American life. How narcissistic is that?

[Lindabellydance]

@Leonicdragon One of the problems is that employers do not always let workers know that the jobs they are doing are dangerous, or at least as dangerous as they are. They are not all construction or obviously hazardous jobs that are killing people and disabling them. People made the same arguments you mention about stopping child labor and even slavery. It's really no excuse. And I don't think these people are saying other nationalities don't matter. If anything we are trying to set an example.

[Leonicdragon]

@Lindabellydance What's an example? If you say the people that work with chemicals, there are warnings on the labels. If you are talking about the guy falling in grain or the people that fall in chippers and meat grinders, then that is obviously dangerous. There are jobs that are simply too dangerous to be done perfectly safely, and to say that an American's life is more important than another country's is wildly narcissistic.

[Lindabellydance]

@Leonicdragon Ok: it was not common knowledge that asbestos is deadly. You see how that turned out. There are deadly hazards related to working in restaurant kitchens but I doubt many people would call that a "dangerous" job. Warning labels are different from regulations & firm consequences. If you are going to employ someone, it it your job to warn them about all of the possible hazards & do everything you can to mitigate them. It is wrong to assume that people know how to do that themselves.

[Lindabellydance]

@Leonicdragon And... Like I said before, I don't see how making our workplaces safer is in any way making it less safe for people in other countries. If anything we are encouraging other cultures to take a 2nd look at their own practices. And by the way there are many people that are perfectly conscious of the problems in other countries. Hence the movement for fair trade and boycotts of products made in sweat shops or countries with little regulation.

[Leonicdragon]

@Lindabellydance that is true, but meanwhile surplus in China skyrockets astronomically! You don't see fair-trade toys and fair-trade electronics. Walmart wich is number one on the fortune 500, has fair trade coffee, chocolate, or some kind of food and that is it. Do you think Wal-Mart cares about where their goods come from? All they care about is making their suppliers cut their costs so that they can make more money. Why is it wrong to assume that people should know how to do that themselves

[fagmohammed]

Fuck these losers! Im glad their dead!

[Textynn]

And about the time OSHA and Black lung Legislation was created, heavy polluters went into the HMO and Health care business. Yes there is a tie. They are the same people. Kaiser Mining is credited for being the father of HCI as we know it. Also go to They Rule and see who are on the boards of the major medical insurance companies. Major Polluters. Also behind the Tea Party movement against health care. Oil companies and polluters.

[asaxearts]

This is an excellent video, thank you so much for the information, and this is such an important issue

[nicademus1974]

Wow how retarded, regulate them out of business. If no one has a job then no one can die. Good thinking. Osha is a joke. Anything they replace it with will be a joke as well. Osha causes way more accidents than it prevents. This from someone who has worked in 3 of the worlds most deadly jobs. Fishing in the Bering sea, logging and oilfield.

[VanHoorelbeke]

@nicademus1974 I know what you worked at, being an Asshole!

[nicademus1974]

@VanHoorelbeke I am an asshole because i don't want useless regs that do nothing but put people out of work and make them less safe at work?

[nicademus1974]

@VanHoorelbeke I am an asshole because i don't want useless regs that do nothing but put people out of work and make them less safe at work? And to add, I would bet my small fortune i had done more work by the time i was 25 than you will ever do in your whole pathetic life.

[VanHoorelbeke]

@nicademus1974 Sure bigmouth thats all you ever done is probably sign your rich daddys will.

[nicademus1974]

@VanHoorelbeke Lol You lose again. My dad left when i was 14 years old and didn't leave us with shit but bills.

[nicademus1974]

@VanHoorelbeke But really it is irrelevant, since you obviously have a lot of growing up to do. When you grow up and learn a little more you will see how the world really works.

[VanHoorelbeke]

@nicademus1974 I would suggest that you read Uptan Sinclairs, "The Jungle" Being you worked in the low IQ field of oil worker I doubt you can read. Do you have a tv in your dirt floor shack trailer? Inbred hillbilly.

[nicademus1974]

@VanHoorelbeke Fail again. I am Geologist. And i made enough in 12 years of doing it to retire at the ripe old age of 35. Yup sounds dumb and inbred to me. Actually i don't watch tv, but thanks. I do have a real nice one to watch movies and play 360 on though thanks for asking though. Gimme your E-mail and ill send ya pictures of my "dirt floor shack". Btw, do you actually have anything intelligent to say on topic? Just wondering, as you opened with childlike insults.

[nicademus1974]

@VanHoorelbeke Also forgot to add, i have read the POS book. That dude couldn't think his way out of a wet paper sack.

[VanHoorelbeke]

@nicademus1974 You mean proctologist dont you?

[nicademus1974]

@VanHoorelbeke lol, you really are clueless, aren't you? Say something intelligent, i double dog dare you. Put up or shut up dude.

[classicallady]

@nicademus1974 @nicademus1974 No the "world" doesn't work like this. #rd world countries do. In Europe we have strong regulation and the government (and Unions) stand behind you and we have achieved this power through a lot of fight and revolutions. If you think this country is a Republic your are wrong. It had transformed itself in an Empire with no affection nor care for it's population for America was built on greed and lawyers and throughout the centuries particularly on the last 40 years

[nicademus1974]

@classicallady well they don't here, and government doesn't have a very good track record. I completely agree with your other points. I will add, people are still dieing at work. What your countries worker death rate?

[classicallady]

@nicademus1974 The European Union? Very very low fishermen being the worst cases due to sea adversities and you know it better than I, right? The disaster with these poor miners this week is unacceptable. Over 300 citations on the past 2 years? Removed the ventilators 3 years ago and would rather pay the petty fines than install proper ones? What will be of these families?

[nicademus1974]

@classicallady I agree, it is sad and a tragedy. But they should be going to jail for negligent homicide. Not getting fined. Not making up another useless law to just fine them more than they did in the past. We don't need any more laws. The company was negligent, people died as a result. Open and shut Neg. homicide case. Then after the criminal case is done, the family's can sue the company in civil court. They got plenty of money so increasing fines isn't going to do anything to change it.

[classicallady]

@nicademus1974 Absolutely. Massive homicide. Agree with you. One of the guys they were still waiting to save today, his son's 13th b-day is Sunday and the boy is eager to celebrated with his dad. He doesn't know yet. Another example Monsanto has been polluting and screwing this land and others for so many years and nothing is done yet they are suing us, the E.U. for NOT allowing them to use genetic modified crops there LOL. They so done over there.

[classicallady]

@classicallady The conservatives, the greedy, the big corp whores - and some democrats as well - take millions from them hence allow them to disrespect and run their businesses like the mob. Education is the key but Nixon made sure to start the "dumbification" for it's always easier to manipulaate a mass of ignorants and uneducated ppl. - idiots who never read, don't care much about history or in sophisticating their minds but believe every crap lie spewed on faux news.

[nicademus1974]

@classicallady the main problem that I have besides that its going to be funded by theft is this. It leaves to decision of whats safe, and un-safe to some bureaucrat that most likely doesn't know the industry he is regulating. He may, or may not get the simple, easy to see stuff. But he won't have the slightest when it comes to details. So the employer will do the safety measures he "has" to. And ignore everything else. Then when called on it he will say,"im doing what OSHA told me"

[classicallady]

@nicademus1974 Because you guys only have two parties here and they are both mostly corrupted.You should all fight for several parties and if they screw up kick them out on the next election. But had Massey be put out of business for good and if the state government put up a bid for another company take over imposing and demanding their follow strict regulations . None of them belonged to any Union because the CEO likes to call himself Unions buster.Kleptocrats usually abhor Unions.

[nicademus1974]

@classicallady jeez i think i love you. I agree completely with everything you just said. The problem is that the majority here are brainwashed by the cult of government. I'm only one man. I do what i can but voting isn't going to change anything until we have like 9 parties like they do in Germany. I just don't see that happening any time soon sadly.

[VanHoorelbeke]

@nicademus1974 if I wanted to listen to an asshole Id just fart . Did you go to the same dyslexic academy as Bush?

[nicademus1974]

@VanHoorelbeke still waiting for an intelligent rebuttal...

[VanHoorelbeke]

@nicademus1974 keep waiting mud man. You have never heard of Upton Sinclair have you punk? You need to read a book or two. Why are you on this site dumb ass?

[nicademus1974]

@VanHoorelbeke Ya i know who he is dimwit, why you going to try and steal an idea from him and try and pass it off as an original thought? It's you-tube dude, do i really need a reason to hang out on you tube and make fools of losers like you? It fun, and it is good typing practice, cuz i suck at typing. If you mean this channel, because every once in a while Greenwald makes a good point. I don't like to limit myself to 1 ideology. Hell i even like Micheal Moore, very entertaining.

[classicallady]

@nicademus1974 LOL yep but we have it after a lot of struggle, civil unrest, bloody revolutions....it cost thousands and thousands of life. Yet we also have socialist party, communist, republican, democrat, christian democrats ...only difference nobody is afraid of each other. Your country is still rather young. Remember we have thousands of years on our backs.

[nicademus1974]

@classicallady sigh...sadly you are right. i Just hope we can get it without all the blood a violence. Real pleasure talking with someone who is intelligent and well spoken. Look at the big brain on her =p

[classicallady]

@nicademus1974 Same here nica. Bloodshed is always a terrifying experience and sihgt. Take care

[crazypaul34]

@nicademus1974 .... With the jobs you've worked you can only protect so much. And I'll admit there's some OSHA regulations that are ridiculous. But then you have to understand that there has been people exposed to hazardous materials for years while the company was aware. Asbestos, radiation, acids, and many other forms of deadly toxins the body can absorb. Don't get me wrong here, there are some rules that need to go, but there are some rules that have done workers quite well. Take care.

[nicademus1974]

@crazypaul34 Yes with these reg in place. It still happens. And when the victims try and sue, the government steps in and shuts down the case. I live an hour from Libby, Montana. The government completely screwed those victims. Employers will only enforce stupid OSHA rules and ignore real safety concerns because OSHA doesn't care or has overlooked it or whatever. It is comparable to the EPA coming into your town and telling you 100 parts per million of arcenic in your water is ok.

[jay123jd]

@nicademus1974 You got everything figured out. The EPA was non-existent under Bush. The petro-chemical industry put peope out of work because Bush grandfathered polution & safety laws back to before Clinton went in office. But people like you do not know history only your slanted point of view. Bush with his unregulated oil industries lost families money in your grand scheme of things and these granfathered laws took lives at BP and other plants for legal non-compliance safety issues.

[nicademus1974]

@crazypaul34 When your opinion is that no parts per million is the "acceptable" level for you and your family. But, since the EPA said 100 parts is ok. You have absolutely no recourse. You can't sue, you can't do anything but drink poisoned water. Thats what regulation does. Every wants to regulate everything but they never think about the unintended consequences.

[crazypaul34]

@nicademus1974 .... You made some very valid points only a fellow working man would know. Things are so fucked up nowadays you don't even know where to turn towards. But I do honestly do see your point of any new safety regulations passing over major safety issues, especially with arcenic, radiation, and other things we know about that others might not know. Just to let you know my work history I've been a welder 15 years(on and off),refinery construction,laborer, deck hand, and electrician.

[crazypaul34]

@nicademus1974 .... Still continuing from my prior statement, I was a ground support electrician in the Marines also. And I'm currently a deck hand doing barge work on the rivers in the Mid-west. But I do respect your work history and the fact you know what you're talking about. Its good to find someone on the web that has actually worked for a living. I hope you stay safe at work and wish you the best bro. Take care.

[Abby99705]

There are many groups working very hard to expose the corruption in the working environment, including worker's compensation. There are needless injuries and illnesses. Worse still, are the workers who receive little or no financial or medical help for those injuries.  It will take many workers fighting in unity to see justice and change. It will not be an easy battle, our politicians work for big business, not the people who elected them.

Abby, Mitchell Sentinel

[Abby99705]

There are many groups working very hard to expose the corruption in the working environment, including worker's compensation. There are needless injuries and illnesses. Worse still, are the workers who receive little or no financial or medical help for those injuries. It will take many workers fighting in unity to see justice and change. It will not be an easy battle, our politicians work for big business, not the people who elected them.

Abby, Mitchell Sentinel

[sterlingrose33]

My grandfather and uncle were coal miners in West Virginia. It occurred to me today that by some fluke or stroke of luck I am not right now a widow of a coal miner. Had my mother stayed in West Virginia, instead of moving to Washington DC, it's likely I could have ended up as a coal miner's wife and possibly widow.

[gregtheiceman]

After 40yrs its time to update our safety standards!

[bbbbmer]

Thank you for this very important presentation...

[TheDailyConversation]

Great video. Everyone always focuses on the third world, but the USA has a lot of improving to do too.