Remember when even kids TV shows had far more intellectual content than most of today's (2012) adult tv shows? Today we have shows like Slutty Circle and South Park.
@mrsirks South park was around at the same time as TNG, just. I enjoy south park and TNG I don't think you have to repudiate one to enjoy the other...
@smile221 South Park aired from 1997- today. Star Trek The next Generation aired 1987-1991 That's a 6 year gap. In TV terms that is not about the same time. When South Park started it was for the more intelligent people who like to get jokes kids would never get. Today South Park is a political vehicle for anti-religious freedom and pro big government. It is also racist and anti-semitic. The show is no longer for the thinking person. I quit watching it years ago.
@BondFreek The creators of south park are libertarians...Can you please explain how it is anti-religious freedom and pro big government? Also, it used to be a lot more juvenile than it is now, you probably just appreciated that kind of humour more as you were younger.
You shouldn't be so paranoid about tv shows disagreeing with your political views
@smile221 Any time a religion is picked on for its beliefs or wrongfully accused of crimes it did not commit but a small percentage of their preachers did commit THAT is anti-religious. The coldest religious attacks were against Scientology, Mormons, Judaism and Catholicism. Next there are all the slams on big corporations starting with Wal-Mart. There are lots of other examples. Finally, the line between paranoia and true fear is only measured by the truth...
@BondFreek That's not anti-religious freedom. Just as you have the right to follow any religion you want, the right to mock any religion they want. Don't you care about free speech? You would ban people from saying things you didn't like? Attacking big corporations isn't the polar opposite of attacking big government. Corporations and the government are in league with each other - as shown by the massive bailouts in the past few years. You can be anti corporation and anti government.
@smile221 "The right to Free speech" excuse is over used by people who want to spread hate but will ignore it when someone speaks about his or hers faith or religion. Neo Nazis, KKK, Atheists and Black Panthers all love to hide behind freedom of speech but when their hate is confronted they lash out at others for "being stupid" or "oppressing others". They, like South Park, abuse the first amendment. PS you SOUND just like them.
@smile221 PS. No government leads to no laws. Murder not illegal, rape not illegal, steeling not illegal, cannibalism not illegal, and so on... No corporations leads to no medication, no warm homes, no food (not enough farm land for everyone in the world to own), no technology, no schools and so on... So NO, You can't be both anti-government and anti-corporation; At least not without being a complete JERK.
@smile221 ... If one or two TV shows have a socialist agenda then that is just a political opinion. But when almost every TV show has a socialist agenda then it is no longer an opinion but a crusade to kill freedom. It’s not paranoia, it’s a real conspiracy.
@JediKnight1948 Oh shut the fuck up! You stupid ignorant Atheist! Jesus raised people who were dead for days, cured the blind and leopards in a matter of seconds. Jesus descended into hell and returned in three days. God created everything from nothing! So keep your blasphemy to yourself!
"And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron."
@JediKnight1948 Miss quoting the bible does not prove your point. "Judah drove out"(Judges 1:19) Meaning that Judah's men "could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had iron chariots" Just because God is on your side does not mean he is going to use his powers to help you. It means that you have been winning the battles. When you read "the Lord is with..." It means that God is cheering for that person & will give him or her strength for his or her efforts.
@JediKnight1948 Here is a bit of advice... 1 stop nitpicking the Bible to death not every word is to be interpreted in modern human terms. 2 Learn what the lessons of the bible are, that is the real reason it was written. The Bible is meant to fix us but we can't be fixed if we constantly try to fix it. 3 When someone says Q is not a god it is not an invitation to a religious debate! And 4 try respecting other people's faith and you will be surprised at how they will start respecting you!
@BondFreek LOL i hope your joking man.Jesus was real but was just man.And god there is no evidence for the creatures existensce.And all you are showing to everyone viewing this video is how hostile religious people are to anyone with differen't opinions.I'm agnostic and i say keep YOUR blamsphemy to yourself kid.
@JordoF6 No I'm not joking. Read the Bible. Jesus made the blind see, & cured people with leprosy. He did ascend into heaven. It's all clearly documented in letters, diaries, & scribes (news men). There is evidence all around you of God's existence, you just don’t want to see it. The word "blasphemy" is used to describe lies against a god. In order to believe in "blasphemy" you must first believe in a god. Stating "god, there is no evidence for the creatures existence" that's Blasphemy.
@JordoF6 Defending ones faith from hate mongers is every religious person's right! It's not hostility, it's self defense from hostel forces from hell! Atheists are servants of the devil, just like the shoe bomber was a servant of al-Qaeda! Hostel people don't build hospitals, expose themselves to leper colonies for humanitarian purposes and render aid to people in war zones, without the use of weapons. Religious people do that every day...
@JordoF6 ...What do agnostic people do, donate to organizations that provide aid? Did you know that every organization that renders foreign aid is a religious one? Did you also know that 98% of atheists & agnostics polled are against helping out people oppressed by socialist & monarchal governments? It is true! Most people who have doubts about God's existence or refuse to believe in God also refuses to help his fellow man because they don't want to get involved!
@JordoF6 One last thing. I'm 43 years old and I have seen things that would make you turn white printer paper! I have seen humanities evil and good. I have seen things science could never explain, & I have seen things that are beyond anything any writer could imagine. I find that Atheists and Agnostics never look past their little worlds. "There are things greater in heaven & on earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy" (Hamlet). I experienced it firsthand!
@BondFreek Mate i'm 39 served in the UN Irish Peacekeeping,I've babies cut open with machetes in Chad in africa.Palenstinian girls raped by Israeli soldiers.I was in Bosnia during the war seen pointless ethnic cleansing.So i have seen terrible shit.But really you might have problems in your head if you think you've seen mircalous stuff mate.
@JordoF6 I Thank you for your service so don't get me wrong. But I have seen death beyond the physical horrors & I have been checked out as 100% sane by experts. I understand that you have seen atrocities that most people can't imagine. But I have seen things that would make the toughest solder scared shitless & I'm not alone. I meet a Vietnam vet that actually saw a soul rise from a body. Not steam! A full figured soul! It’s easy to ignore miracles when all you see is horror.
I grew up with TNG as well, yet I believe what TNG teaches us most, is to make out the most of any situation we face. The world is no paradise, yet we do have to believe in what we want to make out of it.. every moment, every second. The yourney is never over... it's just the beginning.
Man, Picard was such an arrogant prick in the first season. Q may be concerned with what humanity may become eons into the future but humans aren't there yet. If the Q are already afraid of what humanity can achieve then Picard's arrogance may just give them the excuse to wipe humanity out before they can become a threat.
Watching this show as a kid used to inspire me that the future was bright and beautiful and humanity could achieve anything. Then i learnt about the real world. About greed, hate, violence, religion, and stupidity. Every year it gets worse, global warming, christians vs muslim vs atheists, the future just isnt that bright anymore.. I miss star trek..
@aturapariah Well, I agree with your point, but I don't think global warming is real. Too many contradicting reports on the matter. It's far more likely that the slightly shifting temperatures are caused by the sun. This said, I still think it's a good idea to stop burning fossil fuels. It's a primitive, inefficient way to get energy. In the long-run, we're far better off with renewable energies.
All is clam based, like a putrid prophet meddling with the affairs of milky way alignments and the begs to differs continuum, begs thine pardon, grey poupon, mon capitan!
swab it slimey matie
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the deck, yes. lick it, swab it, das boot it from the saucer section, sir!
Way to piss a "GOD" off Picard. "Why should I let you into my heaven ?" Is that the best "GOD" has ? Perhaps you shouldn't "GOD" perhaps your heaven isn't worthy of me, and i should disregard your hypocritical arrogance entirely.
This episode was retarded the Q are were supposed to be omniscient, how do you evolve beyond omniscience? Is that when you can really really do whatever you want, LOL. Once you become omniscient you're done.
@WilliamPbrane Ah! But the Q only CLAIMED Omniscience. That is easy to do to a lower form of life. To a cave man (language barriers aside), we could easily claim to be in the same, omniscient, position. This episode merely breaks down the walls of the false claim to such a title, that the Q have made.
And then there's outer gods, which surpass even the conventional idea of Omniscience.
I believe that this is what Q was trying to tell Picard in All Good Things. He knows that humanity will someday become as powerful or more so than the Q and the Continuum is concerned with what humanity would do with that power.
Pickard's speech is exactly what I hated about early TNG, every episode I was surprised that they didn't all start sucking each other off telling themselves how awesome they were. It's disgusting.
That's my point, Shakespeare understood that man IS arrogant, Pickard was saying it straight. Remember that episode where they picked up some cryogenically frozen 80s people and treated them like dirt?
@TheKlink Apprehension: awareness or understanding of something by the mind. ''In apprehension, how like a god'' what he said had nothing to do about how arrogant humans are lol.
I just love how Star Trek OS was the future. A bright utopia of equality and advancement.
Then Star Trek TNG seems even more advanced. Even more in the future. But constantly Q and Picard reminds us that even then, EVEN THEN, they are still only at the beginning of their journey. They are still learning, still evolving, forever exploring in their ever-continuing star trek...
@shafta99 That's what I think :P The universe is just an experiment, I mean, it's expanding right.. But what is it expanding into? Maybe our universe is just an experiment of some advanced creature, they are playing god.
@K4inan i see us as being the universe alive aware of itself. we are stardust and electric dreams. one day we will be one with the universe and maybe creat one of our own. maybe.
looks as if the q's are afraid of humans maybe the q live in the past because humans are gods its a paradox humans created the universe are god but came from nothing.. makes no sense.. so q's are afraid of them
i dont see how since q can do anything maybe they cant do stuff on a large scale only locally like create plantets make a galaxy snap their fingers and stop all gravity in the universe .. makes you wonder...
@davenielsen78 are you an idiot for not understanding what i said"yes" are you one creepy looking mother fucker almost child rapist predator looking kinda person "yes"
should you talk to me again"no"
next time keep your thgoughts about others to yourself dick
@locutus340 It's delicious, so delicious. Your nonsensical post got a negative response, so you responded in kind and then told that person to keep their thoughts to themselves. Pot, have you met kettle yet?
Humans have a power that is beyond the doctrine of religion and that is the force of faith that is only increased by imagination and dream. One day we will grow up and I hope it will be sooner rather than later for the sake of All our Souls!!!
I don't think humans have a predisposition to be good OR evil. Seeing them as Gods or demons is an opinion only humans themselves could conceive. If I were compare them to anything, I would say Water. They take the form of whatever container you put them in. This is why they can be the ultimate good, the ultimate evil, and everything in between. You are correct, literary axioms don't apply, but don't you think that means generalizing them as a whole falls short of the mark too?
Too bad REALITY isn't as Roddenberry suggests with Gary Sue characters, but actually a self destructive species. Ahhhh the good ol 80s-90s with their feel good soap operas-comedies... We are more alike with the savage Klingons... actually no, the Klingons have honour. We're more like Nausicans.
Yeah, Q gets so annoyed at Picard's verbal masturbation over how "totally frickin awesome humans are" that he leaves. You know you crossed the line when even Q finds you so pompous that he can't even be in the same room with you! It was this pompous attitude overall that made much of TNG's 1st season really quite sickening.
@armysupertroop Agreed. Picard shows so much hubris in scenes like this from the first season that it's amazing to make a transition to DS9 where reality sets in and the galexy becomes much more real than the spoutings of a man who feels like he can declare his superiority because he's lived a life only in paradise.
@CommonRaven I do have a good idea actually, we're nearly at or at peak oil now, our entire economy has been dependant almost entirely on fossil fuels.
When they run out, as they are doing now, given our poor preperation so far for that eventuality we don't know what state the worlds going to be in, economies could collapse, technologically and economically we might not have the ability to get to space for a long time after that.
In such an atmosphere, anything could happen (IE nuclear war
@CommonRaven (Cont) One thing is very clear however, to get anywhere in outer space would require a massive social investment, and our trends so far are to cut back on those programs.
It seems only competition really compels us to advance, competition and conflict (Such as against the soviets in the space race, which led us to the moon) does that fact not worry you? Does it not give you a bit of doubt about what it takes for humans to get anywhere?
@CommonRaven Well, that and the fact we could never colonise other planets lacking some sort of FTL drive without using generational starships or some sort of anti-aging technology, that's been explored quite deeply in a few novels (Such as those written by Steven Baxter).
There's alot of hurdles ahead of us that our current scientific understanding of the universe can't give us solid answers to, we don't know if those answers are waiting for us or if they aren't either.
@CommonRaven We only have a small timeframe (relative to the lifetime of the Earth) within which to leave this planet, that timeframe is wrought with threats that might leave us extinct (man made and otherwise).
We went to the moon half a century ago and havent gone back since, we're cutting spending to our space programs in favour of bolstering military budgets, there are crisis all over the world which we fail to manage effectively and our capitalist societies mostly shun socialist ideals.
I always thought the Q were what human beings would become - they transcended time and guided their/our evolution through interacting with us/their ancestors.
@jimbopumbapigsticks I like to think that we (humans) will eventually become like the Q in real life. We're not too far away with the technology, so that's a start. :)
@omniexistus Don't forget self immolation with explosives while attacking innocent people of different ethnicities or religions, or killing each other for sport and or sexual gratification... yup yup God's. No wonder he Greek and Roman Gods, or any other pantheon Gods have their problems that make Jerry Springer families look like model sitcom households.
The question I ask people is, if Jesus returned, had many powers, could heal the sick etc but said he and his father *weren't* omnipotent, would Christians embrace him or accept him?
@wordforge, I suspect it would create a divide. Some would follow Jesus 2.0 and some would declare him an imposter. That's what happened when Jesus came along in the first place. He was supposed to be the messiah of Judaism and those that followed became Christians and those that rejected him remained believing in Judaism. Religions tend to fracture and divide, unlike science, which converges on a unity of truth.
@theinquisitor "unlike science" Science today has its share of problems as well. Scientific reputation is one. Some scientists are afraid of not getting the next grant or being ridiculed, so they limit their research to what is acceptable.
Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction. They may be summed up by the phrases:
@theinquisitor i would make mention that science remains divided and fractured on a great many things simply because (and this will cause one no matter what i say and prove my point) humans have a need to argue, a need to try to change the 'other guys' opinion rather (on the large scale this is true rare individuals are considered statistical anomalies) than embracing it and changing themselves.
Science is the one area where this division is minimised. Someone who sticks to their theory after it has been disproved will be marginalised by the scientific community. If you can show the evidence that a theory is wrong, any decent scientist will accept it, or be considered unprofessional. That's why science works and why we have the incredible technology and knowledge we do now.
@theinquisitor you proved my point (just like i said you would) now if you want to prove your own you have to agree with mine simply because I provided proof to support my hypothesis (well you did) and thus it is fact, go on provide more proof i dare you, and well I am christian (independant baptist) the kind that never tortured anybody and got roasted (literally) for their beliefs by both the romans and the catholics and the spanish inquisition and yet here I am 2010 yrs later exactly the same
@Master0of0Blades, so if I disagree with you, that proves your point, and if I agree with you, then that proves your point? That's what scientists call an unfalisifiable hypothesis. I don't know why you brought religion into this, we're talking about science aren't we?
Regarding your point about QM and string theory, yes there are disputes about these, more about string theory, but the point is that these will be resolved by evidence, just as plate tectonics and electromagnetism were.
@theinquisitor yeah but my point was not that problem may or may not in time be resolved but rather that people will go looking for an alternative view point, which when you think about it is what science is disagreeing with the other guy and trying to make him change his point of view. and as Einstein said and forgive me if i nisquote i only just woke up "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
@Master0of0Blades, Einstein also said that religion is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. He responded directly to those who quoted him as if he was a theist saying "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly".
He didn't mean religion in the way you mean it. His ideas are best read in long form, not clips.
@theinquisitor like i said and i realise i spelled misquote lol forgive my misquote, but it doesn't change my religous views or my belief in his statement whether he meant it erroniously (and now its late at night and that could be a typo) or not its true, besides all that and whether or not my hypothesis has no wrong outcome my point (i'm sure i had one) was people/government/whoeva are terrible evil things who will use any excuse to start a fight religion/science/the price of oil to start wars
@Master0of0Blades, so if what Einstein thinks has no relevance to your point, why did you bring it up in the first place?
I think your summary of the cause of wars is grossly oversimplified. People often do things because they believe they are right or justified. Religion plays a significant role in justifying horrific actions. Just read the story of Abraham, a man willing to kill his son because the voices in his head told him to, and he's considered virtuous according to the bible.
@theinquisitor sorry i was unclear, Einstein's quote was relevant the person who said it was not the way it was said was not relevant in the same way the hamlet got misquoted for effect.
my view on war is not oversimplified your's is overcomplicated people want an excuse they can hold to keep the demons at bay. i am however personally offended by your depiction of mp's I have it and we are not the boogy men media makes us out to be, perfectly 'sane' people do far worse things than exist.
@Master0of0Blades oh that reminds me here is a massive point of scientific contention Quantum Theory, what not enough here is another String theory, still want more? the contention of the intelligence of animals ie sentience vs non-sentience. I could go on but I'm a statistical anomaly and I'm happy not to argue.
@theinquisitor super gravity theorists and string theory theorists were at odds with each other for quite some time.scientists disagree with one another all the time.such is the nature of man.
@theinquisitor The "truth" of science generally gets disproven more often than it proves. It merely replaces (eventually and over time) one "known fact" with a more plausible "new fact".
Generally, science is merely a series of actions with a predetermined outcome which can be repeated. Anti-chaos.
Religion is more akin to a set series of nonsensical traditions and mannerisms of prolific forefathers. A "my way was best for me so it's the best for us all." Which evolves and mends over time.
@theinquisitor not quite, Believers rejected judism which does reject jesus its just believers don't see it. Christian movement was started in 325AD at nicea by blending two religions into one. read the tale of two babylons by rev. alexander hislop. the reality is that science and religion must converge on unity and truth and science and religion isn't there yet.
@sbz666283 Isn't that the book which is now out of print because the author decided to do some research after the fact and then decided to retract his prior work from his publisher? Or is it another book about the two Babylons?
@benabaxter the retraction argument is only rumor. its not based on reality. The tale of two babylons is still in print and you can still buy the book. right now since the rev is in fact dead there is no updates. He never retracted it at all. the publisher has the right to stop print if no calls for a reprint are done.Another reason is that the publisher says no which happens, another reason is cause the contract is finished.
@sbz666283 Check the site out i put in gaps so i can post the site . So i hope this helps. i have a copy of the book thats supposed to have these phantom made up retractions and they don't exist the guys been dead since 1865 so he could of only made retractions before he died and so there are no retractions to speak of.
@shafta99 A few weeks ago someone wrote that the Christian movement was started in 325 AD. I replied to him and said that it was around 33 AD, after Christ was crucified. Actually, in Paul's day, the term 'Christian' was first used (Acts 11:26). You did not hurt my feelings.
@shafta99 Yes, a follower of Christ is one who tries to be obedient to God's Law in the Bible (John 14:23). A true follower (truly saved person) is someone who has had his sins paid for by Christ, and has become a new creature in Christ (II Corinthians 5:17).
Just because a person claims to believe in Christ, doesn't necessarily mean he is truly saved.
@theinquisitor it whuld seeme that gods suck at communicating. does not sound like powerfull and skilled being to me. then again, it culd be that jesus was just a nother conman who abused the gullablity and needs of other people, just like the conmen today. only difrence is, those days they got away with it. but today we are more skeptical. even so, even still there are conmen and they have lot of followers. if people can be fooled today, dont tell me they cant be in bronze age judea.
@theinquisitor as if there was not controversial topics in science, even its core, Darwinism (the more extreme form of evolutionism) there is sill different ideas, different scientist all believing in different theories. Take Global warming, aka Global Climate change, that is so controversial, some scientist say it will kill us with in the year, some say its a myth. Everything divides, the state of nature is ciaos, not order; you work to clean a room, but not to mess it up.
Lavish self-adulation. Big deal. Sounds nice, puffs us up, distracts us from how our present society is de-evolving us. If this scene was written by an actual alien, one who wasn't human, it would sound better.
In the episode "True Q," Amanda Rogers is told that she can continue to live as a human, but she must not use her powers. But she is warned that her parents were given the same choice. They could not do it, and were killed by the other Q. So what did they do? I have long suspected that they changed humanity, perhaps reaching back into history. This is why the Q are concerned - humans now have the POTENTIAL to surpass the Q. Obviously humans had something to begin with to inspire her parents.
Well, it's a bit complicated and hard to explain. For one thing, gods are usually thought of having created the Universe. We're never given any reason to believe that the Q did any such thing. Some of Q's dialogue also implies that the Q were originally like us and, over time, evolved into the way they are now. Gods are supposed to have always been gods.
@zvermilyer3, well the Abrahamic gods yes, but the Greek gods weren't universe creators, they were just immortal and powerful, and were created before humans. They didn't create humans either. Both developed naturally. It just depends on your definition of a god. They fit into the looser category of gods from much of human culture, just not those of modern western culture.
@zvermilyer3, true, although since primitive cultures have worshipped Picard and even a couple of Ferengi as gods, it's probable that if such a culture witnessed the power of Q, they would be driven to worship. I believe he was once called the god of lies. Maybe there's a good story in there somewhere, with a Q being worshipped and Picard trying to discourage the worshippers. Maybe. Also, liking a god isn't a prerequisite for worship. It's usually a master-slave fear based relationship.
Well the difference is that a true God is omnipotent and infinite in power and can do anything and everything. The Q have limits, and concerns, they may be God-Like but they are not Gods. The Q have evolved over many years and eventually became what they were. They are interested in Humans because humans have a need to grow and learn and it is said that they may surpass the Q down the road. That is why Q is very interested in them.
@fatface111, in the narrow monotheistic definition of a god yes, but the gods of many myths were not omnipotent, particularly since there were many of them in the same pantheon. You can't have more than one omnipotent being. Would you say that Zeus, Ra and Odin are not gods?
@theinquisitor Omnipotent and infinite power are logically inconsistant. Can a God make himself forget something? If not... his power is limited. If so, he isn't omnipotent. Can a God destroy himself. If not... his power is limited. If so, his power is limited. etc., etc.
@BW022, I would tend to agree, but what do you think of the idea that such a being could do those things, but only by relinquishing it's omnipotence. It would have been omnipotent in the past, but not after the moment when performing one of the acts you mentioned. It's a silly idea in any event. The way the universe works doesn't seem to allow for such a thing. There is order and structure, not arbitrary will that magically exerts unlimited power out of nothing.
@aviles1323 Q is not omnipotent. He is a TV character given traits designed to entertain. His power has limits -- aka. other Qs. And no... if he killed himself and bought himself back... then he wouldn't have been dead and hence didn't have the power to kill himself.
@aviles1323 Point being is that he is given attributes for TV entertainment value which no omnipotent being would demonstrate. And yes his power does have limits... Q's have repeatedly imprisoned, killed, and taken powers away from other Q. Thus, his power is limited by the wills of other Q.
Remember when even kids TV shows had far more intellectual content than most of today's (2012) adult tv shows? Today we have shows like Slutty Circle and South Park.
mrsirks 1 week ago
@mrsirks South park was around at the same time as TNG, just. I enjoy south park and TNG I don't think you have to repudiate one to enjoy the other...
smile221 1 week ago
@smile221 South Park aired from 1997- today. Star Trek The next Generation aired 1987-1991 That's a 6 year gap. In TV terms that is not about the same time. When South Park started it was for the more intelligent people who like to get jokes kids would never get. Today South Park is a political vehicle for anti-religious freedom and pro big government. It is also racist and anti-semitic. The show is no longer for the thinking person. I quit watching it years ago.
BondFreek 6 days ago
@BondFreek The creators of south park are libertarians...Can you please explain how it is anti-religious freedom and pro big government? Also, it used to be a lot more juvenile than it is now, you probably just appreciated that kind of humour more as you were younger.
You shouldn't be so paranoid about tv shows disagreeing with your political views
smile221 5 days ago
@smile221 Any time a religion is picked on for its beliefs or wrongfully accused of crimes it did not commit but a small percentage of their preachers did commit THAT is anti-religious. The coldest religious attacks were against Scientology, Mormons, Judaism and Catholicism. Next there are all the slams on big corporations starting with Wal-Mart. There are lots of other examples. Finally, the line between paranoia and true fear is only measured by the truth...
BondFreek 5 days ago
@BondFreek That's not anti-religious freedom. Just as you have the right to follow any religion you want, the right to mock any religion they want. Don't you care about free speech? You would ban people from saying things you didn't like? Attacking big corporations isn't the polar opposite of attacking big government. Corporations and the government are in league with each other - as shown by the massive bailouts in the past few years. You can be anti corporation and anti government.
smile221 5 days ago
@smile221 "The right to Free speech" excuse is over used by people who want to spread hate but will ignore it when someone speaks about his or hers faith or religion. Neo Nazis, KKK, Atheists and Black Panthers all love to hide behind freedom of speech but when their hate is confronted they lash out at others for "being stupid" or "oppressing others". They, like South Park, abuse the first amendment. PS you SOUND just like them.
BondFreek 4 days ago
@smile221 PS. No government leads to no laws. Murder not illegal, rape not illegal, steeling not illegal, cannibalism not illegal, and so on... No corporations leads to no medication, no warm homes, no food (not enough farm land for everyone in the world to own), no technology, no schools and so on... So NO, You can't be both anti-government and anti-corporation; At least not without being a complete JERK.
BondFreek 4 days ago
@BondFreek PPS. You already had a post script. This one is your POST post script. Glad to help. ^.^
jamaymay42 3 days ago
@jamaymay42 WHAT?! What are you talking about? When was the last time we talked(if ever)? What was it about?
BondFreek 3 days ago
@smile221 ... If one or two TV shows have a socialist agenda then that is just a political opinion. But when almost every TV show has a socialist agenda then it is no longer an opinion but a crusade to kill freedom. It’s not paranoia, it’s a real conspiracy.
BondFreek 5 days ago
Q is not a god.Hes an a extra dimensional alien organism.
JordoF6 1 week ago
Q is not a god! He can only re-arrange matter, travel in time and reveres time on individuals. He can't create something from nothing.
BondFreek 1 week ago
@BondFreek
Mankind has cured polio and small pox. God murders nearly every human-being in the world world with a flood.
Mankind landed on the moon. Jesus turned water into wine.
Mankind is already more powerful and more moral than the Christian God.
JediKnight1948 1 week ago
@JediKnight1948 Oh shut the fuck up! You stupid ignorant Atheist! Jesus raised people who were dead for days, cured the blind and leopards in a matter of seconds. Jesus descended into hell and returned in three days. God created everything from nothing! So keep your blasphemy to yourself!
BondFreek 1 week ago 2
@BondFreek
Here is a bible quote:
"And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron."
—Judges 1:19
God could not defeat iron chariots. Q may not be able to create something out of nothing but he can certainly defeat Iron Chariots.
JediKnight1948 1 week ago
@JediKnight1948 Miss quoting the bible does not prove your point. "Judah drove out"(Judges 1:19) Meaning that Judah's men "could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had iron chariots" Just because God is on your side does not mean he is going to use his powers to help you. It means that you have been winning the battles. When you read "the Lord is with..." It means that God is cheering for that person & will give him or her strength for his or her efforts.
BondFreek 1 week ago
@JediKnight1948 Here is a bit of advice... 1 stop nitpicking the Bible to death not every word is to be interpreted in modern human terms. 2 Learn what the lessons of the bible are, that is the real reason it was written. The Bible is meant to fix us but we can't be fixed if we constantly try to fix it. 3 When someone says Q is not a god it is not an invitation to a religious debate! And 4 try respecting other people's faith and you will be surprised at how they will start respecting you!
BondFreek 1 week ago
@BondFreek LOL i hope your joking man.Jesus was real but was just man.And god there is no evidence for the creatures existensce.And all you are showing to everyone viewing this video is how hostile religious people are to anyone with differen't opinions.I'm agnostic and i say keep YOUR blamsphemy to yourself kid.
JordoF6 1 week ago
@JordoF6 No I'm not joking. Read the Bible. Jesus made the blind see, & cured people with leprosy. He did ascend into heaven. It's all clearly documented in letters, diaries, & scribes (news men). There is evidence all around you of God's existence, you just don’t want to see it. The word "blasphemy" is used to describe lies against a god. In order to believe in "blasphemy" you must first believe in a god. Stating "god, there is no evidence for the creatures existence" that's Blasphemy.
BondFreek 1 week ago
@JordoF6 Defending ones faith from hate mongers is every religious person's right! It's not hostility, it's self defense from hostel forces from hell! Atheists are servants of the devil, just like the shoe bomber was a servant of al-Qaeda! Hostel people don't build hospitals, expose themselves to leper colonies for humanitarian purposes and render aid to people in war zones, without the use of weapons. Religious people do that every day...
BondFreek 1 week ago
@JordoF6 ...What do agnostic people do, donate to organizations that provide aid? Did you know that every organization that renders foreign aid is a religious one? Did you also know that 98% of atheists & agnostics polled are against helping out people oppressed by socialist & monarchal governments? It is true! Most people who have doubts about God's existence or refuse to believe in God also refuses to help his fellow man because they don't want to get involved!
BondFreek 1 week ago
@JordoF6 One last thing. I'm 43 years old and I have seen things that would make you turn white printer paper! I have seen humanities evil and good. I have seen things science could never explain, & I have seen things that are beyond anything any writer could imagine. I find that Atheists and Agnostics never look past their little worlds. "There are things greater in heaven & on earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy" (Hamlet). I experienced it firsthand!
BondFreek 1 week ago
@BondFreek Mate i'm 39 served in the UN Irish Peacekeeping,I've babies cut open with machetes in Chad in africa.Palenstinian girls raped by Israeli soldiers.I was in Bosnia during the war seen pointless ethnic cleansing.So i have seen terrible shit.But really you might have problems in your head if you think you've seen mircalous stuff mate.
JordoF6 1 week ago
@JordoF6 I Thank you for your service so don't get me wrong. But I have seen death beyond the physical horrors & I have been checked out as 100% sane by experts. I understand that you have seen atrocities that most people can't imagine. But I have seen things that would make the toughest solder scared shitless & I'm not alone. I meet a Vietnam vet that actually saw a soul rise from a body. Not steam! A full figured soul! It’s easy to ignore miracles when all you see is horror.
BondFreek 1 week ago
@BondFreek "Jesus cured leopards"
What did he cure them of? Freckles? xD
smile221 1 week ago
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BondFreek 1 week ago
How can Q ever be surprised?
iwpoe 2 weeks ago
Q not appearing on Enterprise was terribly disappointing.
3234718 2 weeks ago
@aturapariah
I grew up with TNG as well, yet I believe what TNG teaches us most, is to make out the most of any situation we face. The world is no paradise, yet we do have to believe in what we want to make out of it.. every moment, every second. The yourney is never over... it's just the beginning.
soccer8472 2 weeks ago
with a final flash of glory
/watch?v=oFdMV1zlEX8
nevermore to cease the knight
SuperMegaUberGenius 1 month ago
religion is silly
checkthismuthafucka 1 month ago
Man, Picard was such an arrogant prick in the first season. Q may be concerned with what humanity may become eons into the future but humans aren't there yet. If the Q are already afraid of what humanity can achieve then Picard's arrogance may just give them the excuse to wipe humanity out before they can become a threat.
KingOfMadCows 1 month ago
Watching this show as a kid used to inspire me that the future was bright and beautiful and humanity could achieve anything. Then i learnt about the real world. About greed, hate, violence, religion, and stupidity. Every year it gets worse, global warming, christians vs muslim vs atheists, the future just isnt that bright anymore.. I miss star trek..
aturapariah 1 month ago 9
@aturapariah Well, I agree with your point, but I don't think global warming is real. Too many contradicting reports on the matter. It's far more likely that the slightly shifting temperatures are caused by the sun. This said, I still think it's a good idea to stop burning fossil fuels. It's a primitive, inefficient way to get energy. In the long-run, we're far better off with renewable energies.
UnknownXV 2 hours ago
Tebowing 2011 according to Mayan Calender.
Perhaps our last Christmas!
Lets party in apprehention like a God!
Liberal douchebags, lol.
Silent Night, Holy Night.
/watch?v=keZlextkcDI
All is clam based, like a putrid prophet meddling with the affairs of milky way alignments and the begs to differs continuum, begs thine pardon, grey poupon, mon capitan!
swab it slimey matie
/watch?v=keZlextkcDI
the deck, yes. lick it, swab it, das boot it from the saucer section, sir!
SuperMegaUberGenius 1 month ago
lol Riker's bald face
stewie277 1 month ago
Looks like Q is afraid of some future competition from mankind, and he should be; we like to meddle just as much as he does;-)
ladythalia 1 month ago 2
In reality, Humanity exceeds the potential amount of its own ego
matilda20123 1 month ago 2
Way to piss a "GOD" off Picard. "Why should I let you into my heaven ?" Is that the best "GOD" has ? Perhaps you shouldn't "GOD" perhaps your heaven isn't worthy of me, and i should disregard your hypocritical arrogance entirely.
DarthDrizzt 1 month ago
This episode was retarded the Q are were supposed to be omniscient, how do you evolve beyond omniscience? Is that when you can really really do whatever you want, LOL. Once you become omniscient you're done.
WilliamPbrane 2 months ago
@WilliamPbrane Ah! But the Q only CLAIMED Omniscience. That is easy to do to a lower form of life. To a cave man (language barriers aside), we could easily claim to be in the same, omniscient, position. This episode merely breaks down the walls of the false claim to such a title, that the Q have made.
And then there's outer gods, which surpass even the conventional idea of Omniscience.
LOL!
AndrewDeLong 2 months ago 2
Q is great he is right in all he says
67tr876 3 months ago
I believe that this is what Q was trying to tell Picard in All Good Things. He knows that humanity will someday become as powerful or more so than the Q and the Continuum is concerned with what humanity would do with that power.
Calriec 3 months ago 2
why is q so worried? with a snap of a finger he can stop all future human advancement if he is that jealous
techracer2003 3 months ago
Pickard's speech is exactly what I hated about early TNG, every episode I was surprised that they didn't all start sucking each other off telling themselves how awesome they were. It's disgusting.
TheKlink 3 months ago
@TheKlink Well, what Shakespeare said was awesome, and pissed Q off. You just have some sand in that vagina of yours :(
K4inan 3 months ago
@K4inan
That's my point, Shakespeare understood that man IS arrogant, Pickard was saying it straight. Remember that episode where they picked up some cryogenically frozen 80s people and treated them like dirt?
TheKlink 3 months ago
@TheKlink Apprehension: awareness or understanding of something by the mind. ''In apprehension, how like a god'' what he said had nothing to do about how arrogant humans are lol.
K4inan 3 months ago
they wouldnt be humans in eons.
AEVautomatic 3 months ago in playlist More videos from theinquisitor
Once humans surpass the gods and Q, Q will have to turn to tormenting colorful ponies for fun.
ronodar 3 months ago 6
@ronodar But not Fluttershy.
chada75 3 months ago
it is indeed comical that Jesus was a failure at converting his own race
vtran31 3 months ago
I just love how Star Trek OS was the future. A bright utopia of equality and advancement.
Then Star Trek TNG seems even more advanced. Even more in the future. But constantly Q and Picard reminds us that even then, EVEN THEN, they are still only at the beginning of their journey. They are still learning, still evolving, forever exploring in their ever-continuing star trek...
viridismonasteriense 4 months ago 42
@viridismonasteriense yeaH! let's just get those magic robots and we can start on the venus project! SIGN ME UP!!
katsumorymoto 1 month ago
@viridismonasteriense wow, this comment made me tear up a bit :P
Dalvanara 3 weeks ago
@viridismonasteriense lol yes...because the final frontier...is never-ending.
LamonicBomb 3 weeks ago
HAHA! Q fail!
zatnicatienth 4 months ago
so we become gods and create creatures that will one day say we are just fairy tales. lol the cycle is complete.
shafta99 4 months ago 2
@shafta99 That's what I think :P The universe is just an experiment, I mean, it's expanding right.. But what is it expanding into? Maybe our universe is just an experiment of some advanced creature, they are playing god.
K4inan 3 months ago
@K4inan i see us as being the universe alive aware of itself. we are stardust and electric dreams. one day we will be one with the universe and maybe creat one of our own. maybe.
shafta99 3 months ago
Okay, I wanna see DisQord get pwned like that in the next episode.
MrGregorychant 4 months ago
Friendship......my work here is done.
Ravengaurd6 4 months ago 36
looks as if the q's are afraid of humans maybe the q live in the past because humans are gods its a paradox humans created the universe are god but came from nothing.. makes no sense.. so q's are afraid of them
i dont see how since q can do anything maybe they cant do stuff on a large scale only locally like create plantets make a galaxy snap their fingers and stop all gravity in the universe .. makes you wonder...
locutus340 4 months ago
@locutus340 Are you on acid?
davenielsen78 4 months ago
@davenielsen78 are you an idiot for not understanding what i said"yes" are you one creepy looking mother fucker almost child rapist predator looking kinda person "yes"
should you talk to me again"no"
next time keep your thgoughts about others to yourself dick
locutus340 4 months ago
@locutus340 It's delicious, so delicious. Your nonsensical post got a negative response, so you responded in kind and then told that person to keep their thoughts to themselves. Pot, have you met kettle yet?
lilacpilgrim13 4 months ago
@locutus340 Yep. Acid.
davenielsen78 3 months ago
Q reminds me of billy crystal
bveress 4 months ago
I don't know, maybe their outfits make me fall asleep. Best sleep I have ever had is on Star Trek man.
diees 5 months ago in playlist computer
@diees Keep watching it, then.
SweetZombiJesus 5 months ago
Humans have a power that is beyond the doctrine of religion and that is the force of faith that is only increased by imagination and dream. One day we will grow up and I hope it will be sooner rather than later for the sake of All our Souls!!!
2490debrick 5 months ago
Simon the Digger agrees.
ChReNiC 5 months ago
why does a french guy have an english accent?
is it because its hard to take orders form someone who sounds like a waiter?
roman14032 6 months ago
@roman14032 trolololol
LuiKang043 5 months ago
I don't think humans have a predisposition to be good OR evil. Seeing them as Gods or demons is an opinion only humans themselves could conceive. If I were compare them to anything, I would say Water. They take the form of whatever container you put them in. This is why they can be the ultimate good, the ultimate evil, and everything in between. You are correct, literary axioms don't apply, but don't you think that means generalizing them as a whole falls short of the mark too?
Theearl444 6 months ago
Too bad REALITY isn't as Roddenberry suggests with Gary Sue characters, but actually a self destructive species. Ahhhh the good ol 80s-90s with their feel good soap operas-comedies... We are more alike with the savage Klingons... actually no, the Klingons have honour. We're more like Nausicans.
wd40isgreat 6 months ago
@wd40isgreat ... thats why its set in the future, dont hate cuz hes optimistic
Madorem 5 months ago
@Madorem But he's not realistic. We'll end up killing ourselves before going into space.
wd40isgreat 5 months ago
if not for the stars... Space would be nothing.
WolfEyesatNight 6 months ago
Yeah, Q gets so annoyed at Picard's verbal masturbation over how "totally frickin awesome humans are" that he leaves. You know you crossed the line when even Q finds you so pompous that he can't even be in the same room with you! It was this pompous attitude overall that made much of TNG's 1st season really quite sickening.
armysupertroop 7 months ago
@armysupertroop Agreed. Picard shows so much hubris in scenes like this from the first season that it's amazing to make a transition to DS9 where reality sets in and the galexy becomes much more real than the spoutings of a man who feels like he can declare his superiority because he's lived a life only in paradise.
SpartanSniper3 7 months ago
Picard called Q out in that last part
Degamer422 7 months ago
laughable
Bulloxe4 8 months ago
0:16
"Are you looking at my penis!?"
-"...No!"
Xsuprio 8 months ago
picard looks so young!
73Stargazer 8 months ago
Wow I have never seen these clips before.
ciocod 9 months ago
@CommonRaven I do have a good idea actually, we're nearly at or at peak oil now, our entire economy has been dependant almost entirely on fossil fuels.
When they run out, as they are doing now, given our poor preperation so far for that eventuality we don't know what state the worlds going to be in, economies could collapse, technologically and economically we might not have the ability to get to space for a long time after that.
In such an atmosphere, anything could happen (IE nuclear war
BeardedBill86 9 months ago
@CommonRaven (Cont) One thing is very clear however, to get anywhere in outer space would require a massive social investment, and our trends so far are to cut back on those programs.
It seems only competition really compels us to advance, competition and conflict (Such as against the soviets in the space race, which led us to the moon) does that fact not worry you? Does it not give you a bit of doubt about what it takes for humans to get anywhere?
BeardedBill86 9 months ago
@CommonRaven Well, that and the fact we could never colonise other planets lacking some sort of FTL drive without using generational starships or some sort of anti-aging technology, that's been explored quite deeply in a few novels (Such as those written by Steven Baxter).
There's alot of hurdles ahead of us that our current scientific understanding of the universe can't give us solid answers to, we don't know if those answers are waiting for us or if they aren't either.
BeardedBill86 9 months ago
@CommonRaven We only have a small timeframe (relative to the lifetime of the Earth) within which to leave this planet, that timeframe is wrought with threats that might leave us extinct (man made and otherwise).
We went to the moon half a century ago and havent gone back since, we're cutting spending to our space programs in favour of bolstering military budgets, there are crisis all over the world which we fail to manage effectively and our capitalist societies mostly shun socialist ideals.
BeardedBill86 9 months ago
Good to see that RSC membership coming in useful here :D
lightupnat92 10 months ago
Picard owns Q. Very nice.
rogerwilco2 10 months ago
Picard : 1 - Q : 0
snackpeelskin 11 months ago
I always thought the Q were what human beings would become - they transcended time and guided their/our evolution through interacting with us/their ancestors.
jimbopumbapigsticks 11 months ago
@jimbopumbapigsticks I like to think that we (humans) will eventually become like the Q in real life. We're not too far away with the technology, so that's a start. :)
SPeacock 11 months ago
@SPeacock ahh u mean burning fossil fuels for transportation at inflated prices..yeah we're very close to Q's level..
omniexistus 7 months ago
@omniexistus OK, maybe not THAT far.
SPeacock 7 months ago
@omniexistus Don't forget self immolation with explosives while attacking innocent people of different ethnicities or religions, or killing each other for sport and or sexual gratification... yup yup God's. No wonder he Greek and Roman Gods, or any other pantheon Gods have their problems that make Jerry Springer families look like model sitcom households.
wd40isgreat 6 months ago
Nice video
WhenDarknessRises 1 year ago
SERVED
KingGalby 1 year ago
take that as a YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe they should do some thing with that some show
HarPlayer 1 year ago
Q got served by picard. I like his facial expression when Picard quotes hamlet.
suckmeirisharse7 1 year ago 36
@suckmeirisharse7 It's odd that someone like Q would be impressed even by the words of Shakespeare.
davenielsen78 4 months ago
Alternate Picard line:
"...and don't call me Shirley."
Chellon88 1 year ago
Christ! Q got pwned!
dlausactor6373 1 year ago
What a well written exchange. Christ.
You don't get quality TV like this these days.
Archedgar 1 year ago 2
The question I ask people is, if Jesus returned, had many powers, could heal the sick etc but said he and his father *weren't* omnipotent, would Christians embrace him or accept him?
wordforge 1 year ago
@wordforge, I suspect it would create a divide. Some would follow Jesus 2.0 and some would declare him an imposter. That's what happened when Jesus came along in the first place. He was supposed to be the messiah of Judaism and those that followed became Christians and those that rejected him remained believing in Judaism. Religions tend to fracture and divide, unlike science, which converges on a unity of truth.
theinquisitor 1 year ago 27
@theinquisitor
TESTIFY!!!!
JT826 1 year ago
@theinquisitor I think I could cope wth this hypothetical Jesus 2.0 but I doubt many millions of Xtians would.
wordforge 1 year ago
@theinquisitor "unlike science" Science today has its share of problems as well. Scientific reputation is one. Some scientists are afraid of not getting the next grant or being ridiculed, so they limit their research to what is acceptable.
Every revolutionary idea seems to evoke three stages of reaction. They may be summed up by the phrases:
(1) It's completely impossible.
(2) It's possible, but it's not worth doing.
(3) I said it was a good idea all along.
- Arthur C. Clarke
DracoXul 1 year ago
@theinquisitor i would make mention that science remains divided and fractured on a great many things simply because (and this will cause one no matter what i say and prove my point) humans have a need to argue, a need to try to change the 'other guys' opinion rather (on the large scale this is true rare individuals are considered statistical anomalies) than embracing it and changing themselves.
Master0of0Blades 1 year ago
@Master0of0Blades: "humans have a need to argue"
No they don't.
Science is the one area where this division is minimised. Someone who sticks to their theory after it has been disproved will be marginalised by the scientific community. If you can show the evidence that a theory is wrong, any decent scientist will accept it, or be considered unprofessional. That's why science works and why we have the incredible technology and knowledge we do now.
theinquisitor 1 year ago
@theinquisitor you proved my point (just like i said you would) now if you want to prove your own you have to agree with mine simply because I provided proof to support my hypothesis (well you did) and thus it is fact, go on provide more proof i dare you, and well I am christian (independant baptist) the kind that never tortured anybody and got roasted (literally) for their beliefs by both the romans and the catholics and the spanish inquisition and yet here I am 2010 yrs later exactly the same
Master0of0Blades 1 year ago
@Master0of0Blades, so if I disagree with you, that proves your point, and if I agree with you, then that proves your point? That's what scientists call an unfalisifiable hypothesis. I don't know why you brought religion into this, we're talking about science aren't we?
Regarding your point about QM and string theory, yes there are disputes about these, more about string theory, but the point is that these will be resolved by evidence, just as plate tectonics and electromagnetism were.
theinquisitor 1 year ago
@theinquisitor yeah but my point was not that problem may or may not in time be resolved but rather that people will go looking for an alternative view point, which when you think about it is what science is disagreeing with the other guy and trying to make him change his point of view. and as Einstein said and forgive me if i nisquote i only just woke up "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Master0of0Blades 1 year ago
@Master0of0Blades, Einstein also said that religion is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. He responded directly to those who quoted him as if he was a theist saying "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly".
He didn't mean religion in the way you mean it. His ideas are best read in long form, not clips.
theinquisitor 1 year ago
@theinquisitor like i said and i realise i spelled misquote lol forgive my misquote, but it doesn't change my religous views or my belief in his statement whether he meant it erroniously (and now its late at night and that could be a typo) or not its true, besides all that and whether or not my hypothesis has no wrong outcome my point (i'm sure i had one) was people/government/whoeva are terrible evil things who will use any excuse to start a fight religion/science/the price of oil to start wars
Master0of0Blades 1 year ago
@Master0of0Blades, so if what Einstein thinks has no relevance to your point, why did you bring it up in the first place?
I think your summary of the cause of wars is grossly oversimplified. People often do things because they believe they are right or justified. Religion plays a significant role in justifying horrific actions. Just read the story of Abraham, a man willing to kill his son because the voices in his head told him to, and he's considered virtuous according to the bible.
theinquisitor 1 year ago
@theinquisitor sorry i was unclear, Einstein's quote was relevant the person who said it was not the way it was said was not relevant in the same way the hamlet got misquoted for effect.
my view on war is not oversimplified your's is overcomplicated people want an excuse they can hold to keep the demons at bay. i am however personally offended by your depiction of mp's I have it and we are not the boogy men media makes us out to be, perfectly 'sane' people do far worse things than exist.
Master0of0Blades 1 year ago
@Master0of0Blades oh that reminds me here is a massive point of scientific contention Quantum Theory, what not enough here is another String theory, still want more? the contention of the intelligence of animals ie sentience vs non-sentience. I could go on but I'm a statistical anomaly and I'm happy not to argue.
Master0of0Blades 1 year ago
@theinquisitor super gravity theorists and string theory theorists were at odds with each other for quite some time.scientists disagree with one another all the time.such is the nature of man.
cassidy99ful 9 months ago
@theinquisitor The "truth" of science generally gets disproven more often than it proves. It merely replaces (eventually and over time) one "known fact" with a more plausible "new fact".
Generally, science is merely a series of actions with a predetermined outcome which can be repeated. Anti-chaos.
Religion is more akin to a set series of nonsensical traditions and mannerisms of prolific forefathers. A "my way was best for me so it's the best for us all." Which evolves and mends over time.
Odbarc 7 months ago
@theinquisitor: Exactly what it says will happen. It's called the antichrist and preceeds the Rapture and eventual end of the world.
TheSmithersy 6 months ago
@theinquisitor you forget the third option the option of ahh fuck it
320466 5 months ago
@theinquisitor not quite, Believers rejected judism which does reject jesus its just believers don't see it. Christian movement was started in 325AD at nicea by blending two religions into one. read the tale of two babylons by rev. alexander hislop. the reality is that science and religion must converge on unity and truth and science and religion isn't there yet.
sbz666283 4 months ago
@sbz666283 Isn't that the book which is now out of print because the author decided to do some research after the fact and then decided to retract his prior work from his publisher? Or is it another book about the two Babylons?
benabaxter 4 months ago
@benabaxter the retraction argument is only rumor. its not based on reality. The tale of two babylons is still in print and you can still buy the book. right now since the rev is in fact dead there is no updates. He never retracted it at all. the publisher has the right to stop print if no calls for a reprint are done.Another reason is that the publisher says no which happens, another reason is cause the contract is finished.
sbz666283 4 months ago
@sbz666283 Oh i did check the book is still in print no retractions or anything.
sbz666283 4 months ago
hot book sale .com has the book in print, I dont give you hear say only proof which is all in am interested in.
sbz666283 4 months ago
@sbz666283 Check the site out i put in gaps so i can post the site . So i hope this helps. i have a copy of the book thats supposed to have these phantom made up retractions and they don't exist the guys been dead since 1865 so he could of only made retractions before he died and so there are no retractions to speak of.
sbz666283 4 months ago
@sbz666283 Actually, the Christian movement was started around 33 AD after Christ went to the cross.
terminat1 2 months ago
@terminat1 and your point is?
shafta99 2 months ago
@shafta99 I was simply trying to correct his error.
terminat1 2 months ago
@terminat1 you are innacurate. jesus may have died anywhere between 20 to 40 ad. and oh yes he was the son of god.
shafta99 2 months ago
@shafta99 The timeline of the Bible, and I believe most historians, would place the crucifixion in 33 AD.
terminat1 2 months ago
@terminat1 you seem to know it all. but know nothing. you are just a worm. whats the matter not enough wiggle room for you?
shafta99 2 months ago
@shafta99 I am simply stating a fact. There is no need to resort to insults.
terminat1 2 months ago
@terminat1 and so what do you mean by that fact. i am open to listening. sorry if i hurt your feelings. you are not the usual troll.
shafta99 2 months ago
@shafta99 A few weeks ago someone wrote that the Christian movement was started in 325 AD. I replied to him and said that it was around 33 AD, after Christ was crucified. Actually, in Paul's day, the term 'Christian' was first used (Acts 11:26). You did not hurt my feelings.
terminat1 2 months ago
@terminat1 by saying im a christian is to believe in th vurtues of jesus. its ok i am willing to learn.
shafta99 2 months ago
@shafta99 Yes, a follower of Christ is one who tries to be obedient to God's Law in the Bible (John 14:23). A true follower (truly saved person) is someone who has had his sins paid for by Christ, and has become a new creature in Christ (II Corinthians 5:17).
Just because a person claims to believe in Christ, doesn't necessarily mean he is truly saved.
terminat1 2 months ago
@terminat1
Christianity is silly
michaelbme83 2 months ago
@michaelbme83 Why?
terminat1 2 months ago
@theinquisitor Oh please. Read some Aquinas and then get back to me.
benabaxter 4 months ago
@benabaxter Aquinas was a moron. His arguments can be picked apart with an almost absurd ease.
davenielsen78 3 months ago
@theinquisitor it whuld seeme that gods suck at communicating. does not sound like powerfull and skilled being to me. then again, it culd be that jesus was just a nother conman who abused the gullablity and needs of other people, just like the conmen today. only difrence is, those days they got away with it. but today we are more skeptical. even so, even still there are conmen and they have lot of followers. if people can be fooled today, dont tell me they cant be in bronze age judea.
gethsoftware 3 months ago
@theinquisitor as if there was not controversial topics in science, even its core, Darwinism (the more extreme form of evolutionism) there is sill different ideas, different scientist all believing in different theories. Take Global warming, aka Global Climate change, that is so controversial, some scientist say it will kill us with in the year, some say its a myth. Everything divides, the state of nature is ciaos, not order; you work to clean a room, but not to mess it up.
IBioPoxI 3 months ago
Q got owned... even as a French Marshall.
TheSonicGod 1 year ago
Whatever potential humanity can have is likely lost from watching too much TV, lol. Or from killing, lying and polluting.
101101101777 1 year ago
Lavish self-adulation. Big deal. Sounds nice, puffs us up, distracts us from how our present society is de-evolving us. If this scene was written by an actual alien, one who wasn't human, it would sound better.
101101101777 1 year ago
Too much Shakespeare.
logik316 1 year ago
Yes, Stewart, you certainly do know Hamlet.
SgtHydra 1 year ago
Free shakespeare book courtesy of Q!
Also he can change the physical constants of the universe. Pretty much as good asyou can get
DarkKnightBob1o1 1 year ago
In the episode "True Q," Amanda Rogers is told that she can continue to live as a human, but she must not use her powers. But she is warned that her parents were given the same choice. They could not do it, and were killed by the other Q. So what did they do? I have long suspected that they changed humanity, perhaps reaching back into history. This is why the Q are concerned - humans now have the POTENTIAL to surpass the Q. Obviously humans had something to begin with to inspire her parents.
MoreApathy 1 year ago
great (/cool)
Bramborail 1 year ago
Patrick Stewart: OH I [i]know[/i] Hamlet!
Onifos 1 year ago
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Onifos 1 year ago
The Q are not gods. They're just very highly-evolved aliens.
zvermilyer3 1 year ago
@zvermilyer3, what's the difference?
theinquisitor 1 year ago
@theinquisitor
Well, it's a bit complicated and hard to explain. For one thing, gods are usually thought of having created the Universe. We're never given any reason to believe that the Q did any such thing. Some of Q's dialogue also implies that the Q were originally like us and, over time, evolved into the way they are now. Gods are supposed to have always been gods.
zvermilyer3 1 year ago
@zvermilyer3, well the Abrahamic gods yes, but the Greek gods weren't universe creators, they were just immortal and powerful, and were created before humans. They didn't create humans either. Both developed naturally. It just depends on your definition of a god. They fit into the looser category of gods from much of human culture, just not those of modern western culture.
theinquisitor 1 year ago
@theinquisitor
There is one other difference: Gods are worshipped, and as far as we know, nobody worships the Q. Most races don't even like them very much.
zvermilyer3 1 year ago
@zvermilyer3, true, although since primitive cultures have worshipped Picard and even a couple of Ferengi as gods, it's probable that if such a culture witnessed the power of Q, they would be driven to worship. I believe he was once called the god of lies. Maybe there's a good story in there somewhere, with a Q being worshipped and Picard trying to discourage the worshippers. Maybe. Also, liking a god isn't a prerequisite for worship. It's usually a master-slave fear based relationship.
theinquisitor 1 year ago
@theinquisitor
Well the difference is that a true God is omnipotent and infinite in power and can do anything and everything. The Q have limits, and concerns, they may be God-Like but they are not Gods. The Q have evolved over many years and eventually became what they were. They are interested in Humans because humans have a need to grow and learn and it is said that they may surpass the Q down the road. That is why Q is very interested in them.
fatface111 1 year ago
@fatface111, in the narrow monotheistic definition of a god yes, but the gods of many myths were not omnipotent, particularly since there were many of them in the same pantheon. You can't have more than one omnipotent being. Would you say that Zeus, Ra and Odin are not gods?
theinquisitor 1 year ago
@theinquisitor Omnipotent and infinite power are logically inconsistant. Can a God make himself forget something? If not... his power is limited. If so, he isn't omnipotent. Can a God destroy himself. If not... his power is limited. If so, his power is limited. etc., etc.
BW022 1 year ago
@BW022, I would tend to agree, but what do you think of the idea that such a being could do those things, but only by relinquishing it's omnipotence. It would have been omnipotent in the past, but not after the moment when performing one of the acts you mentioned. It's a silly idea in any event. The way the universe works doesn't seem to allow for such a thing. There is order and structure, not arbitrary will that magically exerts unlimited power out of nothing.
theinquisitor 1 year ago
@BW022 well thats just a marry go round Q is omnipotent ... if Q isnt the definition of omnipotent then what is >??
lets say Q kills himself for an instant and then brings himself back to life is that omnipotent enough for you >??
etc etc
aviles1323 1 year ago
@aviles1323 Q is not omnipotent. He is a TV character given traits designed to entertain. His power has limits -- aka. other Qs. And no... if he killed himself and bought himself back... then he wouldn't have been dead and hence didn't have the power to kill himself.
BW022 1 year ago
@BW022 no the he is a character on tv no one ever mentioned him to be real lol come on now ....
his powers dont have limits there just regulated by other q's who are just as powerful as him ...
aviles1323 1 year ago
@aviles1323 Point being is that he is given attributes for TV entertainment value which no omnipotent being would demonstrate. And yes his power does have limits... Q's have repeatedly imprisoned, killed, and taken powers away from other Q. Thus, his power is limited by the wills of other Q.
BW022 1 year ago