It isn't a hit and miss engine. It is technically a 2 stroke because it does ( or is supposed to ) fire every time the main piston come up on the stroke.
@dafunk43 I wonder... why set it up as a 2-stroke? Very interesting though, I've never seen an engine like this one firing on every stroke before. Also, what's with the weird double-piston cycle?
I would guess it was designed as a 2 stroke because of the power benefit. The double piston is sort of the "valves" of the engine. The small cylinder sucks in both air and fuel and when the large cylinder is coming to the bottom of its stroke, the smaller piston then "pushes" the mixture of air and fuel into the larger one, both pushing out the exhaust gases and pushing in a new mixture to fire when the large cylinder comes up to the top of its stroke.
I guess that's the pre-compressor cylinder, which does the same job as the crankcase in modern 2-strokes. Although i doubt this could run correctly in reverse.
@Miata822 She did. She also taught me not to tolerate willing ignorance. Choose to be intelligent, or choose to be looked down upon. Your half hearted thanks, half hearted because you couldn't be bothered to spell out the entire word, was an insult.
Boy you sit here in anticipation then it slowly starts up... That was cool!
You guys need a set of those blue rubber gloves they will protect your hands and give you great grip when your cold cranking those flywheels. I use them at work all the time and cant do without them. Very cool collector engine! I would love to own that, break it down and fully restore it like new, engine like this can draw some big bucks from the collectors... Good old USA !!
its amazing the engineering the old timers came up with.. I bet someone was even more proud of that thing then you folks are now when they bought that engine to use.
Yep, it's a charging cylinder. Since it is a uniflow engine it's dependent on a scavenge pump, which pushes air through the ports in the side of the cylinder, blowing out the exhaust gases and forcing a fresh air charge into the cylinder.
It is actually a 2 stroke engine. It fires every time the piston comes up. It may sound like a hit -miss because we were still kinda workin the "bugs" out!
@RatherEggy Just think of all the places you see electric motors on a modern farm. Before everything was electrified you would likely use a stationary engine to do the work. One of my stationary engines ran a cement mixer and the other was a washing machine engine.
the old guy is right, you roll it forward as if it wher running to take in a charge, it wont work backwords so well because of the charging cyclinder wont push it in.. I had one, i know how to start it.
the old guy is right, you roll it forward as if it wher running, running direction to take in a charge, it wont work backwords so well because of the charging cyclinder wont push it in.. I had one, i know how to start it.
make another hole in the head and start it with compress air you wil be stress relieved also find the way to change the ignition timing at will for the start up procedure,, great piece ,,congratss. both you guys.
It is to draw in air &gas,and then push the air gas mixture into the main cylinder which exhausts the burned charge and at the same time pushing in a new load. It is a type of 2 stroke engine. Firing every time the piston comes up.
When they found oil in the area, natural gas was always present also. It originally would have run on that. Propane is just easier to supply and keep "Mobile".
OSHA wasn't around in those days! It's kinda funny when you look back at all the old machines and marvel at the lack of protection and gaurds. I guess it was a way of getting rid of the bad gene pool!
It's called a charging cylinder. It pulls in the air -fuel mixture and then it pushes it into the main cylinder, which has an ignition source. Originally they had what was called a hot tube ignition. This 1 is retrofitted with a crude spark plug and coil.
Still love watching you two on your reid. Reminds me of the times my father and I spent togeather. And to the other coment, reids are not hit n miss engines. They normaly fire all the time. And a true hit n miss will fire all the time under a hevy load. Hope to see more of your reid later, where are you located. Phil
Groovy vid , if I may be so forward as to suggest you might reconsider putting a new engineer on the charge rod side . That has the potential for instant youtoob celebrity status in the violent amputations category .
I've been to see many thousands of stationary engines in my time and NEVER have I heard anything make that noise before. That engine is so delightfully simple... Am I right in thinking that you're controlling the air and fuel mixture yourself?
I am glad you enjoy these beasts! To answer your question, Yes, the "carb" is a needle valve on the propane and there is a 2" ball valve on the air intake. If the air valve is opened up even close to full, the speed of the engine goes WAY to fast! It also uses alot more propane.
The next step is to get the flyball govenor hooked up and working to control the speed. It seemed to run in the vid at about 340 rpm, which is still a little fast. But it is my Dad's first stationary engine!
Y'know I chuckle watching this, because I can just picture a pair of oilfield workers in stetsons, gloves and boots, f-ing and blinding at this beast trying to get it started!
My first stationary engine was a little Lister model JH and I had great fun with it. 2 years ago nearly bought a huge twin cylinder oil engine from where I found it outside the mine stores of a local kaolin mining operation. I'll have to go see if it's still there!
hi,i use to pump oilwell's back in ohio with a 15 hp reid.i has a hot tube on my engine's.you can prim the engine we used crude oil put in about 1/2 soup can.gas can be used. we it runs off to fast put your hand on the intake to cut off the air.also be carefull it dosent kick back when your starting it.oilmen were killed that way.and some leg's were broken many years ago.have fun very nice job you did on your engine!!
Nice Job. Your 15 HP should run 165 RPM max. At the shows they are run 60 RPM + or - without a load. Using the needel valve is tricky and an art form, but you will get the hang of it. Again Nice Job. Phil
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81avispa 1 month ago
precioso, el ser humano .
81avispa 1 month ago
its a hit and miss
DustyDylan 2 months ago
LOVE the technology and "wise" thoughts of your dad on how its supposed to start..GREAT VID!
imarealist101 2 months ago
Cool
AntiqueEngineNut 3 months ago
Oh for the love of......."bounce it against the compression", instead of 'backwards, then forwards...no wait...forwards, then backwards..." eugh.
DieEisenschmied 3 months ago
That just looks dangerous as hell. I love it!
1krr 4 months ago
It sounds like Darth Vader at first.
puppetmaster983 4 months ago
good job guy's
gummmmmbycorey1 4 months ago
Thar she blows! Good stuff, love it!
ironmangler 5 months ago
congratoulation..
b262222 6 months ago
backwards, forwards, backwards, forwards.... for 4 minutes...
skaaltel 6 months ago
Just turn the key ! : )
normellow 7 months ago
Nice!
Congratulations for that that amazing work! That machine is amazing.
Your father is obviously an "old-schooled" man including the best knowledge and mechanical capabilities. Keep it up!
Thanks for the upload and with the best wishes and greetings from Germany.
Hydrant2602 7 months ago
Why don't you mount it in a car?
callmeshane303 7 months ago
correct me if im wrong because i dont know a whole lot about these hit and miss engines, but isnt it running backwards from what it should be?
Dylan409137 7 months ago
It isn't a hit and miss engine. It is technically a 2 stroke because it does ( or is supposed to ) fire every time the main piston come up on the stroke.
dafunk43 7 months ago
@dafunk43 I wonder... why set it up as a 2-stroke? Very interesting though, I've never seen an engine like this one firing on every stroke before. Also, what's with the weird double-piston cycle?
fallingwater 4 months ago
I would guess it was designed as a 2 stroke because of the power benefit. The double piston is sort of the "valves" of the engine. The small cylinder sucks in both air and fuel and when the large cylinder is coming to the bottom of its stroke, the smaller piston then "pushes" the mixture of air and fuel into the larger one, both pushing out the exhaust gases and pushing in a new mixture to fire when the large cylinder comes up to the top of its stroke.
It is a strange design, but very simple!
dafunk43 4 months ago
@dafunk43
I guess that's the pre-compressor cylinder, which does the same job as the crankcase in modern 2-strokes. Although i doubt this could run correctly in reverse.
DragonFlyback256 1 month ago
I am not sure if it is running in the correct direction..........
I guess it could be backwards, there aren't any valves , so anything is possible!!!!!!!!!!!
dafunk43 5 months ago
Should it run that fast? Make sure there are no cracks in those flywheels.
Miata822 8 months ago
@Miata822 it isn't running that fast, it's a two stroke.
Polybun 6 months ago
@Polybun thx
Miata822 6 months ago
@Miata822 It's thanks you fucking moron. Speak english.
Polybun 6 months ago
@Polybun what's up your bun, fag-boy? you are suddenly the grammar police? Didn't your mother teach you any manners?
Miata822 6 months ago
@Miata822 She did. She also taught me not to tolerate willing ignorance. Choose to be intelligent, or choose to be looked down upon. Your half hearted thanks, half hearted because you couldn't be bothered to spell out the entire word, was an insult.
Polybun 6 months ago
crank up was a real ritual
4mulas 8 months ago
love those engines, those and the hit and miss types. thanks for sharing.
gumpster66 9 months ago
I do try! I have learned so much from him.
dafunk43 9 months ago
Respekt!
Carondriver 9 months ago
nicely done guys hope it comes together.
1kzrider 10 months ago
That is such a special sound. I love it. I can't help but smile.
fegolem 11 months ago
about 6:18 just as it stops sounds like a didgeridoo on the intake stroke!
celesteraez 1 year ago
Worth the wait...
teamfab 1 year ago
Wieviel wird sie kosten?
123schlueter321 1 year ago
Remember:age brings wisdom!
Squarerig 1 year ago
look guys, what will hapens if you hear this sound in publiqe toilet?
528jkl 1 year ago
Boy you sit here in anticipation then it slowly starts up... That was cool!
You guys need a set of those blue rubber gloves they will protect your hands and give you great grip when your cold cranking those flywheels. I use them at work all the time and cant do without them. Very cool collector engine! I would love to own that, break it down and fully restore it like new, engine like this can draw some big bucks from the collectors... Good old USA !!
SendinK9 1 year ago
So... one cylinder is the piston and combustion chamber... The other cylinder is the valve system?
Landotter1 1 year ago
how big of a bore stroke does that thing have?
celesteraez 1 year ago
its amazing the engineering the old timers came up with.. I bet someone was even more proud of that thing then you folks are now when they bought that engine to use.
darensmiles4 1 year ago
What a nice video. Beautiful engine . Nice sound.
Nykkytta 1 year ago
that sounds like the steam boat from the old micky mouse cartoons
cameron6697 1 year ago
What an amazing engine!!
What a sound!!!!
BRILLIANT!
SH1974 1 year ago
that thing is so intimidating
85projectcar 1 year ago
I guess that cylinder on the side is what forces air in through the ports, eh?
randommagnum 1 year ago
@randommagnum
Yep, it's a charging cylinder. Since it is a uniflow engine it's dependent on a scavenge pump, which pushes air through the ports in the side of the cylinder, blowing out the exhaust gases and forcing a fresh air charge into the cylinder.
douro20 9 months ago
Sounds to me like you are arguing the same point. You are facing each other, so backwards to one is forward to the other.
userunavailable3095 1 year ago
why isn't that machine extracting oil? deep horizon do it better
tootiekorps 1 year ago
pretty nice engine
bimbu9 1 year ago
Just wondering how the engine is cooled? I would think it would overheat with no fins on the cylinder. Pretty cool old engine.
nibortheyak 1 year ago
The engine is water cooled. We had a hose going into the water jacket, and then just dumped it onto the ground. That is the pipe out the rear.
dafunk43 1 year ago
Looks like a lost art.
harleyghost 1 year ago
yeah excellent
CBMXX 1 year ago
It is actually a 2 stroke engine. It fires every time the piston comes up. It may sound like a hit -miss because we were still kinda workin the "bugs" out!
dafunk43 1 year ago
is this a hit and miss engine???
lister4931 1 year ago
unce unce unce unce. >.> nice engine.
stoichiometric 1 year ago
My Grandad loves these, what do they even do? Stationary engines serve no purpose at all
RatherEggy 1 year ago
@RatherEggy They usually run generators, grain mills, ect.
segarza 1 year ago
@RatherEggy Just think of all the places you see electric motors on a modern farm. Before everything was electrified you would likely use a stationary engine to do the work. One of my stationary engines ran a cement mixer and the other was a washing machine engine.
taylortownmayor 1 year ago
very cool
formula22000nz 1 year ago
lol naughty dad had a hand on one of the spindles then lol,great achievement weldone you both
eatmypies 1 year ago
Better make sure you let go the flywheel before it fires
reytdhfuytf 1 year ago
i wont to heave this :D
aca192maric 1 year ago
All the arguing ads to the whole video, very good guys!! Thanks for posting.
Johannes1955 2 years ago
young guy is right. old guy is just confused!! :-D
listepikster 2 years ago
Just remember the Old guy did teach young guy everything he knows!
dafunk43 2 years ago 24
oh indeed, but still the old guy seems to have forgotten after he taught youg guy :-P
listepikster 2 years ago
@dafunk43 Youngster says"Dad you never had computers, video games or TV when you were a kid, did you?"
Old man says "No son, thats why we invented those things for you."
Loads of new technology would not have been possible if not for the ground work done by the older generation.
Biggerbadwolf 1 year ago
@dafunk43 And we all see who got assigned to the charge rod wheel .
Kerogas 1 year ago
the old guy is right, you roll it forward as if it wher running to take in a charge, it wont work backwords so well because of the charging cyclinder wont push it in.. I had one, i know how to start it.
boa721 11 months ago
the old guy is right, you roll it forward as if it wher running, running direction to take in a charge, it wont work backwords so well because of the charging cyclinder wont push it in.. I had one, i know how to start it.
boa721 11 months ago
i'll give a dollar if you stick your leg in that spoke
crabtrap 2 years ago
Lol. It sounds a little like Darth Vader. Good work! Keep it up!
BubbyStupidhand 2 years ago 4
it'll go pow!
yewtewb717 2 years ago 8
make another hole in the head and start it with compress air you wil be stress relieved also find the way to change the ignition timing at will for the start up procedure,, great piece ,,congratss. both you guys.
n4120p 2 years ago
holly hell slow that reid down till it almost stops on compression!! If the OFES seen this they would shit!
bluethundertmaxx 2 years ago 7
LOL
dafunk43 2 years ago
dont you know how to start it?
stop arguing!!!
minedronebiznis 2 years ago 5
toooo fast slow her down
mikes47jeep 2 years ago 12
@mikes47jeep not even close to too fast. It's a two stroke, it sounds much faster than it is.
Polybun 6 months ago
What is the function of the second "piston" on the side of the engine?
crazyfvck 2 years ago
It is to draw in air &gas,and then push the air gas mixture into the main cylinder which exhausts the burned charge and at the same time pushing in a new load. It is a type of 2 stroke engine. Firing every time the piston comes up.
dafunk43 2 years ago
Ah.. That's interesting.
crazyfvck 2 years ago
Dont you Argue with Dad! lol...
Wallabydam 2 years ago 3
Unbelievable. And OMG, about ten ways to cut your hand off.
effectroid 2 years ago
pritty damn sweet
tractorboy8420 2 years ago
why propane?
trucker765 2 years ago
When they found oil in the area, natural gas was always present also. It originally would have run on that. Propane is just easier to supply and keep "Mobile".
dafunk43 2 years ago
pop spit fart poof kaboom. One thing for sure, there aren't any flaws in those flywheels,
tombrewerfla 2 years ago 2
thank you for restoring this and showing us the video! nice job on the engine and the cart looks great!
DieselsAndDiodes 2 years ago
Ahh, wheres all your saftey guards?
stan420ok 2 years ago
OSHA wasn't around in those days! It's kinda funny when you look back at all the old machines and marvel at the lack of protection and gaurds. I guess it was a way of getting rid of the bad gene pool!
dafunk43 2 years ago
i love your comment i read it to my dad and he agrees
GundamKnight07 2 years ago
They are all in place just like they were back in 1905. That was when you didn't stick your hand where it would get cut off LOL.
tombrewerfla 2 years ago
skip to 6:45 and skip all the bickering
Bobbymitchell10 2 years ago
Wish i had one of those.
darkpanda008 2 years ago
run, she's gonna break apart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
boa721 2 years ago
dump a few drops of gas in the spark plug hole, turn it backwards and it will start, if you can roll it back far enough to spark and ignite!!
boa721 2 years ago
That might leave a BIG mark!
dafunk43 2 years ago
That thing is terrifying, haha. Hellish sound.
Nice job though!
fangjangler 2 years ago
give you 100$ if you put ur hand in there lol
viperd911 2 years ago
Nice Job have you gotten the governor hooked up and working
41Zman 3 years ago
whats the cylinder on the side for?
DRNEGOLICIS 3 years ago
It's called a charging cylinder. It pulls in the air -fuel mixture and then it pushes it into the main cylinder, which has an ignition source. Originally they had what was called a hot tube ignition. This 1 is retrofitted with a crude spark plug and coil.
dafunk43 3 years ago
let me save future viewers some time, start at 6:34 & skip the bickering.
NascarIsLife 3 years ago 3
glub,glub,glubl,glub,puffpuffpuffpuffpuff,glub,lub,puffpuffpuff lol
KbApimp007 3 years ago 3
Lovely sound, well done!
AECRoutemaster 3 years ago 2
very nice engine its amazing how they are still running today
cheers steamengineboy
steamengineboy 3 years ago
unbelieveable... and to think in the 1900s these things pumped oil, da and night...
just amazing...
jack9102 3 years ago
so what exactly did these engines do?
jack9102 3 years ago
They're just stationary, since this one came from an oilfield, it probably pumped oil.
RattlingMurdock 2 years ago
what is the second cylinder on te side of the engine for?
jack9102 3 years ago 2
Still love watching you two on your reid. Reminds me of the times my father and I spent togeather. And to the other coment, reids are not hit n miss engines. They normaly fire all the time. And a true hit n miss will fire all the time under a hevy load. Hope to see more of your reid later, where are you located. Phil
fairlanephil 3 years ago
Thanks, Phil. We are about 30 miles north of detroit,mi
dafunk43 3 years ago
uhhhhhh........that kinda defeats the purpose of having a hit'n miss engine when its firing every revolution!!!!! hahahahahahahahahaha
anywho other than that it runs great!!!!!
1964corvan 3 years ago
Groovy vid , if I may be so forward as to suggest you might reconsider putting a new engineer on the charge rod side . That has the potential for instant youtoob celebrity status in the violent amputations category .
Kerogas 3 years ago
I've been to see many thousands of stationary engines in my time and NEVER have I heard anything make that noise before. That engine is so delightfully simple... Am I right in thinking that you're controlling the air and fuel mixture yourself?
RustedBovine 3 years ago
I am glad you enjoy these beasts! To answer your question, Yes, the "carb" is a needle valve on the propane and there is a 2" ball valve on the air intake. If the air valve is opened up even close to full, the speed of the engine goes WAY to fast! It also uses alot more propane.
The next step is to get the flyball govenor hooked up and working to control the speed. It seemed to run in the vid at about 340 rpm, which is still a little fast. But it is my Dad's first stationary engine!
dafunk43 3 years ago
Y'know I chuckle watching this, because I can just picture a pair of oilfield workers in stetsons, gloves and boots, f-ing and blinding at this beast trying to get it started!
My first stationary engine was a little Lister model JH and I had great fun with it. 2 years ago nearly bought a huge twin cylinder oil engine from where I found it outside the mine stores of a local kaolin mining operation. I'll have to go see if it's still there!
RustedBovine 3 years ago
hi,i use to pump oilwell's back in ohio with a 15 hp reid.i has a hot tube on my engine's.you can prim the engine we used crude oil put in about 1/2 soup can.gas can be used. we it runs off to fast put your hand on the intake to cut off the air.also be carefull it dosent kick back when your starting it.oilmen were killed that way.and some leg's were broken many years ago.have fun very nice job you did on your engine!!
pianoplayer27572 3 years ago
Nice Job. Your 15 HP should run 165 RPM max. At the shows they are run 60 RPM + or - without a load. Using the needel valve is tricky and an art form, but you will get the hang of it. Again Nice Job. Phil
farmerphil 3 years ago
Good job on your reid rebuild. I have a 1906 15 hp left hand reid with clutch flywheel. Hope to have running this year, needs lots of work. Phil
farmerphil 3 years ago