amanda knox / Knox jury hears emotional testimony

[MsIthinkthereforeIam]

r.i.p meredith xxx

[IslandGirlx84]

As if the American way of Justice is quick and not thorough...?

[drstratsky]

We should have executed her, then there would be no problem. We are tired of America throwing its weight around in Europe, Its Italian justice for the brutal murder of a British girl. All this movie making about her doesnt change that fact that she is a cold blooded killer

[nickslick75]

Fight FOA! Spread the word. Don't let Knox win. Don't let her bastard friends win.

[papi1414]

thinks she can smile her way outta of it stupid bitch!  rip mez x

[eurovisionukuk]

free her shes did not do it

[hugeldugel]

Sie war es nicht. Die Menschen spiegeln ihr eigene Schlechtheit in sie hinein.

[arianariadne]

The Italian way of Justice: not quick but very thorough!

Amanda Knox didn't count on it, hence the smirk on her face!

Guilty!

[kimatoz3]

@arianariadne You got that right- Knox sucked in a lot of her fellow Americans, but she did not pull the wool over the rest of the world!

[xoxladyjennaxox]

OH MY GOD!!!! i would luv to smack that smile off her face the stupid bitch

[LoquaciousE]

Here is one educated person who couldn't give a rats ass about what color anyone involved with this case is. Instead of throwing someone to the wolves by making accusations based on stereotypes and race, how about concentrating on the evidence or shall I say, lack of evidence.

[KimBaileyHere]

Oh, there is plenty of evidence you just need to know where to go to read it.

[vassilis01]

@KimBaileyHere so tell us where...don't be so coy-the truth is all we want!

[Azotadeth]

Dear lunafringe10, dont forget, other countries also have "fascist laws" and have plausible scenarios pass as incriminating evidence, for example, the USA.

The fact that she is a young white american girl, that she's won over the simpathy of a great part of her compatriots and specially, attracted huge media attention, pretty much forbids the process not going through legal and strict proceedings.

Italians are not stupid enough to want horrible anti-italian propaganda in the US.

[lunafringe10]

Dont forget, Italy still has some fascist laws, and ways in the judiciary, If a prosecutor doesnt like you, even he doesnt have evidence, your life is history, This is not the end, Amanda will leave Italy where she ll get a proper court to deal with those accusations,

[baronessvz]

nas000media is probably right, in Seattle, the prosecutors do not get to invent devil-worshipping scenarios and voo doo and run with it to a jury of people too stupid to get out of jury duty.

[LoquaciousE]

naas000media - Oh gee, I can only imagine the wonderful and prestigious school that you were educated at. If you did indeed get one, that is...

[naas000media]

Congratulations to the Italian Judicial system. Amanda Knox was properly convicted. It is a fact she would not have been convicted in Seattle, WA.

Amanda Knox was educated at an inferior school that claims phony 'NAAS' accreditation from the Washington Board of Education, and a corrupt Association of Washington School Principals.

[LaPayasa99]

Not quick or thorough! More like- "Lets hold them long enough until no one remembers the truth and we can come up with some plausible lies." No hard evidence, just her DNA in an apt they SHARED and the fact that he had a Playboy Mag and they liked to have sex w eachother. God save us all if thats what the American system went off. Poor Kids. 2 Years of their life already down the drain. Thats Justice in Italy? She is guilty because she smiles? Its been 2 DAM YEARS FOR CHRIST SAKE!

[TheGlobalEconomy]

She was convivted because:

1. One fresh blood drop was found on the sink tap and found hers

2. Two bloody footprints were detected with luminol at the entrance of her and Meredith's bedrooms

3. A knife was found compatible with two wounds in RS's apt accuratly cleaned with bleach

4. Two receipts of two bleach bottles were found in RS's apt dated the day after the murder

5. A theft simulation was made in the apt with pieces of glass found over the clothes and not under

etc. etc.

[tillaylomo]

because she is white, she is female, and she is american, therefore she is is innocent

[itskevinlee]

no because in our system you are innocent until proven guilty. They have no evidence that says she did it 100%. It's our system, and it works... sorta.

[Azotadeth]

Blatant sarcasm, but has a notch of truth.

The vast majority of people who are "so incredibly sure" she is innocent are americans and/or young white girls.

When did empathy become valuable grounds of exemption ???

[wmcdo1]

There was another crime in Italy where an Italian wife was murdered and because the husband stated he did not kill her just pushed her and she fell hitting her head got away with murder until the issue was pressed from the US and reinvestigated to find there was much more to the story of his wife's death.

[daleyander2468]

wow If I was her, I would be scared or yelling "I DID NOT DO IT!" not with a smile face and calm down like a wiseass!

[itskevinlee]

i agree.

[7pretty7]

Quit bashing Americans. We also want justice for beautiful Meridith. If AK and RS did the crime do the time..Let's hear ALL the facts first. ..peace...Pretty

[saxoniano]

and sep

go fuck yourself !!

[sep0507]

Can't, too busy making you look like an idiot.

[saxoniano]

we´ll see sep...

we´ll see

[saxoniano]

sep

please...

now you are looking stupid...

so there was a lot of blood that got carefully but not totally cleaned up with bleach..

bleach does not " degrade " ....completely if you do not clean more than well and these 2 guys thought they did a good job but they didn´t ...

what is poor is the attempt of the american media to discredit the italian police and prosecution, actually making things worse in a weak attempt to save Amanda...

and you will change your opinion if you are smart

[sep0507]

saxoniano...You're the stupid one. BLEACH DOES degrade DNA making it useless for comparrasin against known samples. I AM smart and I WILL NOT change my opinion. The Italian justice system is not justce. It is a farce. The prosecuter HIMSELF is under indictment, so what makes you believe ANYTHING he says is true? He's trying to save his reputation by SOLVING the big murder case. Don't bother me anymore with your BS about AK. My mind is made up and you don't have one.

[saxoniano]

Luminol has some drawbacks that may limit its use in a crime scene investigation:

Luminol chemiluminescence can also be triggered by copper or copper-containing alloys, horseradish, and certain bleaches[citation needed]; and, as a result, if a crime scene is thoroughly cleaned with a bleach solution[specify], residual bleach will cause the entire crime scene to produce the typical blue glow, effectively camouflaging any organic evidence, such as blood.

[KimBaileyHere]

This comment is irrelevant in entertaining only to you.

[saxoniano]

kim

I am not trying to entertain anyone here...

AK never said Raffaele did it...

please refrain from posting lies...

[KimBaileyHere]

In 2007 Amanda MOST CERTAINLY did say that Raffaele murdered Meredith and planted her DNA on the knife. I am not making that up. Her 2007 statement is still online at more than one site. I believet hat you are sincere, and definely misinformed.

[saxoniano]

please show me where....

Again Amanda has never said that Raffaele is the killer...

NEVER...

you are misinformed...

[KimBaileyHere]

I have been following this case since Nov 2007, you obviously just came onboard. There were numerous a/c in 2007 from several sources in Europe and North Am. stating that Amanda said RS murdered Meredith. If you were so sure that was not true you would not be asking me where to find it. Google plant Knox's fingerprints the first 5 sites 2007 talk about her claim. I am not going to give you the URL I am not your research assistant.

P.S. YOUR WRONG!

[sep0507]

AK's fingerprints ahould be there! She LIVED there! Anyone can google AK and find out the same info you have. How about the independent investigative reporting that proves there is NO reliable evidence pointing a finger at AK. How about the prosecuters outrageous theories about how and why the crime was committed? She NEVER said I DID IT! Only the words from a scared young lady that was abused emotionally and physically by the police interrogation is all they have. Goggle THAT!

[KimBaileyHere]

Sept0509, Of course Amanda prints are expected to be found at her apartment. It was her parents who said that there were no prints, hair, DNA belonging to AK, not me. Furthermore the knife in question with Amanda and Meredith DNA was found at RS. I said that ppl should Google the info themselves. I never said AK said I did it. I said she said Raffaele did it. That was my statement, that Amanda said Raffaele murdered Meredith as is now using him as her alibi. Youre just as crazy as Amanda.

[saxoniano]

me too

I have read all the italian documents regarding the trial and AK has NEVER ACCUSED RS of murdering MK...

You are in the USA therefore you are misinformed...

AGAIN YOU ARE WRONG...

you can´t show me because you don´t know where to find such a stupid claim...

come here to Italy if you want to know about the trial..

surely google and the americans dont know shit about it...

[KimBaileyHere]

YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE!! There are numerous articles from Europe that stated that Amanda said RS murdered Meredith. Just because you have not read them that does not mean that she did not say it. Her statement is online on SEVERAL news sites from around the world. Instead of writing BS in this thread why dont you go and look for the info. There are dozens maybe hundred of articles that reported her statement. The info is online If you want to read it go look for it YOURE a F@#%ing ASSHOLE.

[saxoniano]

I keep looking but again I can´t find it.

VAFFANCULO BRUTTO PEZZO DI MERDA AMERICANO DEL CAZZO...

USA is full of shit as usual...

YOU CAN´T READ...

[KimBaileyHere]

If you were so sure that what I am saying was not true you wouldn't be looking for it. Google "Meredith sex killing: Foxy Knoxy changes her story... again"

Only one of hundreds of reports to the fact that in Nov 2007 Amanda said the Raffaele murdered Meredith. Dont email me again.

[saxoniano]

you are pathetic..

Nick Pisa ?????

AND AGAIN...

FUCK OFF

[saxoniano]

again how is it possible to find a knife in a box at Raffaele´s house that has been cleaned with bleach....and underneath you find Amanda DNA on the knife and Meredith´s DNA on the blade ?

now how can that be manipulated or wrong...?

please...research a bit more..

[sep0507]

Hey smart guy, anything cleaned with bleach, even a half assed cleaning, would degrade the DNA and make it impossible to get a profile from. You have listed the same BS facts over and over and you'll never convince me that this prosecution is on the level. AK is a scapegoat for poor police work and poor performance from the prosecuters office. You've made up your mind using BS evidence, and you know it. So quit trying to change my opinion, it'll NEVER happen. All evidence gathered was tainted.

[saxoniano]

Luminol is a chemical that reacts with the microscopic particles of iron in the blood if a partial but incomplete attempt has been made to clean a bloodstain away...

[saxoniano]

do you know what luminol is ?

[sep0507]

I'm well aware of luminol. So, what's your point? Unless you agree that the use of luminol was to set up Knox, I'm not interested in your fantasy.

[saxoniano]

my point is that luminol showed traces of a major clean up of the house ..

there was a lot of blood .....

this is not fantasy....

now why would the forensic try to frame AK ?

you do not make sense my friend...

luminol was going to be used anyway as in every crime with the presence of blood..

Knox set up herself for life....

you are just delusional...

[sep0507]

And you're what, my friend? I assume you don't know much about blood. It takes very little blood, smeared by a rag, to appear as a massive stain. Just because the luminol pointed out blood cleanup, it doesn't tell WHEN that boold was cleaned up. Blood residue can last for years, so your pointing to luminol as evidence is no evidence of a crime having been committed. AK didn't set herself up, the police did. They have NO evidence, only a theory and they're railroading her to make it stick.

[saxoniano]

do you know how many spots of Meredith´s blood has been found in the house ?

do you know that mixed DNA was found ?

and what about the knife found at Raffaele´s in a box with both girls DNA on it ?

and why Raffaele is not confirming her alibi anymore ?

why did he refuse to testify for her ?

and there is much more..

please visit the website true justice for Meredith Kercher and please take a look about the massive quantity of evidence against these two guys....

[sep0507]

Raffaele is trying to save his own skin. He'd do anything to get out from under this viscious prosecution. The knife found was not the knife used in the murder. Why wouldn't they find AK DNA in the house, she lived there. The massive quantity of evidence you refer to is a myth, concocted by the prosecution to taint the jury pool into finding them guilty. You're as lame as the prosecuter, but he'll propbably get his convistion because of all the leaked "evidence" that isn't evidence at all.

[saxoniano]

yes the knife found in RAFFAELE´s house with Amanda and Meredith´s DNA is compatible with one of the cuts.

And I can see that you do not know that much about the case as the CSI found only ONE fingerprint of Amanda in the cottage on one glass. Of course she cleaned everything up...

you do not know anything about this case..

so please refrain from posting unless you have a clue about what is going on...

sorry but you are on the wrong path for the truth...

[KimBaileyHere]

Sept0507 "the use of luminol was to setup Knox" that is positively the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard The police sprayed the luminol it revealed the blood - how is that a setup? Why would the Italians waste time and money to setup someone? AK said that Patrick murdered Meredith, then she said that Raffaele murdered Meredith. She is now saying that she spent the entire night at RS a claim that Raffaele is denying. On the stand she is calling Raffaele, her so-called alibi, a liar.

[sep0507]

KimBaileyHere...Are you stupid or what? WHY, I say again, WHY, would they "clean up the crime scene" and leave the body there? Seems like a dumbass thing to do. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that there's blood evidence, so what's with all the luminol? It's a BS tactic the police are using to convict an innocent girl. PERIOD!

[KimBaileyHere]

Sept0507, It is a lot easier to get rid of small pieces of evidence like a weapon, prints, blood than it is to get rid of a body. Try carrying a body down the road see how far you get. Farther more Amanda & RS had not finished cleaning the scene, the police showed up to return Merediths cell & found Amanda & RS there. RS statement stating that he was getting ready to call the police when the postal police arrived is online. Cont

[KimBaileyHere]

Sept0507, The luminol was needed to expose the blood that Amanda had try to clean away with the bleach. Pictures before and after the luminol was sprayed are online. At the time that the police sprayed the luminol Amanda WASNT EVEN A SUSPECT. The luminol was sprayed the day the body was found & several days before Amanda was taken into custody. So the DUMBASS thing is youre saying they tried to setup Amanda with the luminol. Ready DUMB.

[sep0507]

One IMPORTANT thing you fail to realize: Luminol can't tell you WHEN it was left and WHOSE blood it reaveals. Luminol can reveal blood stains 50 years old! And the blood has been degraded by bleach, so DNA can't be accurate. It's amazing how YOU read and believe ON LINE what the police have as evidence. Sounds as if the police are tainting the jury pool by leaking information, true or untrue. They try her in the press and get her so vilified that a conviction is certain. Don't be naive.

[KimBaileyHere]

You have toned down you insults that means that I am finally get through to you GOOD. Everyone reading search Google images Amanda Knox and bathroom. There is a picture of the BLOODY bathroom. Unless there has been another murder in that house (with that much blood) it must be Merediths blood. You admit that bleach was used to degrade (remove) the blood. Only Amanda could have cleaned that bathroom. You statement that bleach was used is admitting that Amanda was involved.

[sep0507]

Where's the proof? There isn't any evidence that suppoprts the prosecuters claim. You haven't gotten to me at all. AK is not guilty. PERIOD

[KimBaileyHere]

sep0507, first you need to get check for herpes, did you see Amandas face when she was in court Second it was you who brought up the bleach, not me Acknowledging that bleach was used is tantamount to saying that Amanda was involved No one reading this thread will believe that Rudy used bleach to clean the bathroom sink or that he moped the floor

Thank you for proving my argument

[sep0507]

KimBaileyHere...Herpes? LOL I brought up the bleach BECAUSE the police has leaked that to the press and Internet. Your argument isn't an argument at all. It is a fiction based lie that you continue to promote as solid evidence. You're an idiot to believe that I will EVER give you any credibility because, as you've stated, I've given you HERPES! LOL You're a dumbass!

[KimBaileyHere]

sep0507, I reiterate no one reading this thread will believe that Rudy used bleach to clean the bathroom sink or that he moped the bathroom floor.

Thanks so much for your assistance.

[rock4ladies]

Crucify the bitch and let justice rule. She's fucking clearly guilty and I wonder why this should even raise headlines. This is a clear example of fetish gone wrong.

And note bitch is a very good actress, how on earth can I makeup something like putting a man who has been helpful to me in such trouble. Was it out of tension she said the African immigrant is the murderer. Fucking crap. Girl is a bitch.

[UtileEtDulce]

She's not innocent. Stop advertising.

[sep0507]

And you're not informed. You have her convicted without the truth being heard, just a pile of spin put forth by a prosecuter who himself is under indictment for abusing his power. I don't trust their judicial system no more than I do the North Koreans. Apparently you do, and that's a shame.

[d89gr]

And you're either blinded by her 'angle face' or can't accept that a fellow American is a murderer. Enough evidence to close this trial and just send her to prison now.

[sep0507]

d89gr...Being from Britain I can understand your need for revenge, but you're directing it at an innocent girl. Too bad you didn't see the TV special that aired in the US regarding the case. It more than proves that the prosecution is blinded by power, not evidence. Their casse is circumstancial at best, with NOTHING to directly tie her to the crime. Not to mention her coerced interrogation, complete with her claims of police brutality. I don't trust their judgement anymore than I trust yours.

[d89gr]

I wonder if you would say the same were it an ugly asian women in her 50s.

[saxoniano]

it has been 4 months since you posted but I gotta tell you that there is plenty of evidence indicating Amanda Knox as the killer together with Sollecito and Guede..

I would suggest you to read about the case as you obviously haven´t ...

She is a big big liar...

[sep0507]

saxoniano.....And I suggest you look at the prosecution and their "made up" evidence. There isn't even enough circumstancial evidence to point guilt at Knox. Why is it that an American investigative reporter refuted almost everything the prosecution has on her? Because it's all fabricated to ensure a guilty verdict. Let this be a lesson to ALL Americans traveling abroad. The US is the only country you can be sure of getting fair justice.

[saxoniano]

are you aware of mixed DNA belonging to Amanda and Meredith..

circumstancial ?

you are delusional...

you do not want to understand that she is not what she looks like....

there has been already a verdict ....italians do not need another one just for fun....

there are massive evidence that her and Raffaele are deeply involved ...

please do not listen to Amanda´s parents as their attepmts on tv are just pathetic..

I know everything about this case...there is no made up stuff in it..

[sep0507]

Are you aware of prosecutorial misconduct? Hey, these idiots couldn't find MY DNA if it was taken only from me, let alone "mixed DNA". LOL They put her character on trial, not the evidence. I've never seen Amanda'sarents on TV. I get my facts from world news sources and most all agree she is innocent. Except the Italians. They convisted her before the trial even took place, the vengeful bastards!

[kidcalabria]

They couldn't possibly call her 'Foxy Knoxy'' in Italy since it's English & not many people speak it in Italy, & those who do speak it quite poorly & wouldn't know what 'foxy' means. In fact Italians can't even pronounce her surname properly, as it's clear from interviews from TV news, where they pronounce the K in a very marked way. They might have picked up the 'foxy' by now, but there's no way they coined the nickname

[claudineretard]

Pure, pure evil

[AmandaIsInnocent]

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You are free to express your views there that you believe Amanda is innocent and we welcome you to the conversation. Libertad!