Stalin killed more people then hitler? R u stupid? Fuckin hitler killed over 6million jews alone , plus many more none jews , stalin is a angel compared to dat fuck hitler
Stalin was arguably the worst totalitarian dictator in world history. Hitler is a very close second. But Stalin ruled much longer and was responsible for many more wars and was responsible for many more deaths than hitler. Plus Stalin put several Communist Dictators in Power, resulting in even more deaths.
@cl65amg69 Stalin is'nt an angel in any context. He killed his own people. Do your research. know your facts before you go around insulting people for their supposed "lack of knowledge"
I personally celebrate the fact that Guy Fawkes was stopped - as he and the others wanted to bring back Catholic rule, which pretty much oppressed the people. So I never really got why V seem to idolize him in a sense.
Mussolini (father of fascism) parents were socialists, he was named after a socialist, he joined the socialist party, edited a socialist newspaper and became one of the leading socialists of Italy. Please don't pontificate about how he is right wing.
But yea the day the United States government switched over to a communist or fascist way of ruling the country then I'm gonna move the fuck out lol. Good buy to all our freedoms.
@MichaelMyers87 And anyone who thinks wed still have ALL our freedoms if one of those 2 things happend are COMPLETE RETARDS. Look at all the communist governments in history. It always fails or gets overthrown because eventualy some crazy tyrant comes to power and has absolute control.
@MichaelMyers87 You cannot catagorize Communism and Fascism. Fascism openly endorses Nationalism, SuperCapitalism, Rule of One, ect. According to The Manifesto of the Communist Party By Karl Marx ( founder of Communism), Communism is an Idea to establish a Workers Utopia, for Workers to free themselves from their Slave Master Capitalist Fat Cat Fascist Fucks. Communism is the Road to Real Democracy - Karl Marx. In the West, Democracy is for Who? Democracy for Slave Owners!
He can do whatever he wants. Like kill several million people in work camps in a blizzard near the north pole. Stalin was a commy and thats always how commys are, tyranns.
Stalin was basicaly Russias own Hitler, only they were too powerful for the us to defeat and charge him with crimes against the human race. He commited genocide on nearly as wide scale that Hitler did. And Stalin was a communist. Communism is just as bad as Fasism. Basicaly it starts out where the party has command and theres people have a say, but it always turns to one guy uniting it and becoming the sole leader of the country.
Question. Do people in the USA and the UK, really believe, and i mean really believe that they are not already living in a facist state? If they feel they are truley free, then i'd encourage them to find out the definition of facism and what constitutes it, and then look at their surroundings. We are not free, we are controlled, Investigate and you'll see it for yourself.
@bigderekkeene United States isnt fascist by any means lol. I can eat what i want, work where i want. you can make videos on youtube making fun of the president and not get arrested like in some countries. I can go outside and say i hate obama, hes a bad president! And nothing happens. Obama himself dont have complete control over the government. IN FACT ITS THE OPPOSITE. The government pushes HIM around.
@MichaelMyers87 Enjoy those ''liberties'' they are the last bastions of what used to be freedom. Your freedoms are being slowly taken from you, we are sleep walking into totalitarianism and those things of which you spoke will be reoved from you soon enough. Unless we wake up!
@bigderekkeene The United States Government is designed so that on person never has too much power. Theres 3 forms of government, the courts, presidentail, and congress. They all keep each other in check. America will never be a communist or a fascist country.
@luarionte I have seen countless documentaries on WW2, and never once heard that count contributed to Hitler. Please tell me you didn't get this from Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh.
I looked into it and I couldn't find anything to verify it; not even in a list of slogans used by Hitler.
Also, you know that even if that were true it would mean precisely NOTHING!. It's not like some subtle clue that Obama plans to murder an entire race of people, right?
Hitler was bad because he attempted to wipe out an entire race of people, not because of his slogan or his health plan. Do you understand the difference?
A general rule I have found works well is, anyone whose argument is based entirely on Nazi comparisons has no actual argument.
@george1punk2 Sighhhh This is the problem with getting your "facts" from Faux News + Limpbawl etc. Fascism, by DEFINITION cannot NOT happen on the left because it is a RIGHT WING ideology. Capiche? Extreme leftist would be communism. You'll find Faux News prpagandists claiming the Non-Repugnican administration is BOTH. What you've stated is like stating: Deers have just as much potential to kill bears as bear do deers. Umm. No. Not without ziplock bags and model glue. Or: propaganda fed fear.
i dont care what you say, somone has to inforce it, the feeling of being in power completly overwelms you, thats why democracy becomes a dictatership, I AM NOT standing up for the right wing eather (please dont get the wrong end of the stick)
Jeez, haven't you learned anything from the Tea Party? Socialism, fascism, Nazis and communism all mean the same thing now; they are all synonyms for liberals!
But seriously, the thing that I find most frustrating about Fox is, for as much as Glenn Beck likes to cry about the left being Nazis, the fear tactics he employs is exactly how Hitler was able to rile his people up and get them to commit atrocities.
@ROOKTABULA I wish I had that pot your smoking. Joseph Stalin was the sole leader of russia, and had commited genocide against millions of his own people in work camps to build military bases. Millions died due to the cold weather, Stalin knew it would happen. And he was a COMUNIST.
@ROOKTABULA I would rather live under a fascism then a communistic government, they were socialists yes but they allowed for the most part free business, in fact the military was supplied by private corporations like Krupp. Under a communism everyone is forced to slave away for the state, everyone is abused, in Germany you could own your own house and motor vehicle. Only the Jews and poles were oppressed, everyone else lived in relative peace. They are both evil but the Nazis were the lesser.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe you guys have been missing an essential point about this subject...
Communism, as Capitalism, is an economic ideology.
Fascism, as Democracy or Anarchy, is a political ideology. (I can't say about socialism... :S )
A Communist country can be Facist. Even if both ideals don't match in all ways (the idea of complete egality), they "could" work together. I believe Soviet Russia was one example of this... (I might be wrong!) Communist China was.
@ROOKTABULA well historicly, all we have to go by is russian communism, its great on paper but when people get greedy thats were it takes a turn for the worse
@ROOKTABULA So-called communist states are just like fascist states - they're a totalitarian fusion between government and corporation, where the population primarily serves to work for the state. True socialism has only ever been achieved in Anarchist Spain in the 1930's, the 'communist states' that have emerged actually belong on the far-right, with fascist states. Just FYI, I'm a socialist, and I hate Fox News & the Republican Party.
@ROOKTABULA The Red Terror and Reign of Terror instituted by Lenin and Robespierre disagree with that, as well as others. Stalin even went so far as to purge fellow Communists, including his army and officers. Not to say that I'm pardoning Fascism at all, it's an evil ideology. But Communism and Fascism are both very similar in practice. The are where they disagree is their ideology, although even these are more similar than you think. Both advocate a strong government and regulated economy.
@ROOKTABULA Well with all due respect... no. The Germans actually prospered under Hitler, he fought down the unemployment. Admittedly, he was the Black Plague as far as Jews were concerned, as well as political opponents, but overall the standard of living in Germany was higher than in the UK during that time period.
Whereas the Soviet Union's hallmarks were famine (the Holodomor) and stagnation.
It depends whether you mean Communism, as practised thus far, or ideal Communism.
Ideally, a Communist country is anarchic, and precludes the bourgeois totalitarianism that facilitated the political dominance of people like Lenin and Stalin
@MichaelMyers87 Have you read the Communist Manifesto? NOT ONE fucking word in their sais that One person should rule everything. It's actually the opposite in Communism. Communism and Stalinism are not the same, you American fucker. True Communism is rule by everyone, meaning everyone rules themselves, a Workers Utopia.
@offthewaley Wherever there is a government, there will be oppression. As Alan Moore himself said, "We don't need a government, we don't need people to boss us about. What we need is an administration"
It seems men and women, once given power, desire more and more of it, and the more of it they get, the more of it they abuse. I only wish there were more men like Moore-he's nothing short of a prophet, in my book. Christians have Jesus, Muslims have Mohamed. I have Alan Moore :D
@ROOKTABULA It's not that simple. Fascism is in itself a form of socialism, and both Mussolini and Hitler began their careers as ardent socialists. Mussolini wrote about how he planned the dominion of business and capitalism by the state, and Hitler based his economy accordingly. The whole "pure blood" thing you leftists associate with fascism has nothing to do with it, that was simply Hitler tapping into ancient Germanic anti-Semitism that existed since the Dark Ages, long before Fascism.
@ROOKTABULA Well here in Sweden - and presumably in the rest of Europe - we have something called AFA, Anti-Fascist Action. They're more fascist than the fascists they claim to fight - they have a fascist modus operandi - sabotage, silencing their opponents, et cetera... and yet they're "left-wing". So in a manner of speaking, both of them may give rise to some sort of fascism.
@ROOKTABULA That's not entirely true. Yes it's true that Fascism is the extreme of Conservatism, however, there have been many notable populists and communists that used the tools of terror that Fascists do and whose governments transformed into the "right" after a period of time in power. This is a classic result of Marx's famous model of class warfare. Julius Caesar himself--who's story is often seen as the essential poster-child of collapse of free states--was an avid populist.
@ROOKTABULA Perhaps if you spent more time reading Philosophy and not writing "sighhhh" Them maybe you would know that Fascism and Communism do in fact have a common origin in the Philosophical work of Hegel. So your really totally wrong aren't you?.
@george1punk2 You're a fucking moron. Do you understand the fact that you just stated, "red has just as much potential to be green as green"? Each phenomena is exclusive from the other; liberal fascism is impossible. Lenin? Stalin? Castro? Please. All right-wing fascist swine. If it looks like an apple, smells like an apple, tastes like an apple, feels like an apple, and fervently insists that it's an orange, would you assume that insistence is valid?
Well truth is that capitalism is based on private ownership while fascism is based on ownership of the state. While you anarchist fight against the "state", you're actually killing people and you are no different than those of dictators like Mussolini, stalin, Napoleon, and hitler, who had made anarchy in many different ways. Second, don't blame Bush. Blame the Cold War
ownership by the state? no copntrol maybe but private property was protected as was wealth.you have to remeber thaT FASCISM WAS SEEN AS a direct respnse to socialism and communism to reverse
socialisms pricipled and preserve wealth and heirarchy..thers no way an inteeleigent person can dispute that
Stalin and Franco were successful though. Anyways, what about Islam? It is the last vestige of fascism disguised as spirituality. Along with some Christianity/Jewish Zionism. No one is Chosen, we are all in the same boat.
Look, I'm tired of coming across these "stupid Americans" comments on youtube. Paladinzorro is fine, but InsaneAsJoker came of as offensive. Now look, I've have British history class and I know that Guy Fawkes was no hero, but the point of this video and of the movie, I believe, was to have a little fun looking at it through another veiwpoint. Also, I do believe that this movie had quite a few Europeans working on it, So if there is an error in the portrayal, it isn't only the Americans' fault.
who cares about left or right wing. socialism and facism do have the exactly same form of powerstructure and both kill off their enemies who do not want to be zombies or try to fight them.
you can obama facist or socialist, what stays the same is the corrupt unelected world leaders who run all the major banks and control the governments.
and we will soon be living in a place like the movie shows, if we don't fight back.
lol americans wrongly interpret nov 5 how unsuprising. its just an excuse to burn a man shaped object nowdays but guy fawkes is always portrayed as a failure and an enemy of the state. the plotters are never ever seen as heroes and are just a small footnote in history especially as the civil war was soon-ish after
most of us don't really see Guy Fawks as a hero. He was a reactinary catholic that was just attempting to stop the prodestant reform. Also it wasn't his plan he was just the one that got caught at the scene.
I think you've been listening to too much Alex Jones. The slogan of the NSDAP before the election was "Deutschland, erwache", which means "Germany, Awake."
You republicans shouldn't be talking with your wiretaps and secret CIA prisons that flourished under Bush, I'm not saying Obama is much better though. Also some in your party, the radical religious right want to turn this nation into a theocracy. A fate worse than fascism.
This piece ISN'T about bashing Duhhh-Byuuuhhhh as the book was written over a DECADE before he stole power with his bro's help and the supreme court. And he was an alcoholic and a coke snorter. THAT shoulda disqualified his ass right there as it obviously fukt his brain. When I talk about America leaving up to the values it purports to extol: it's a 'C". When it's a war mongering, Authoritarian, police state: It get's a "k". If you don't like it, do something, Kaiser Darth.
shame the interviewer failed to read the damm book on which this film was based on!
If he had,he would have realised why "V" was the way he was..he was a victim of the government who was brutalised and tourtured,in short "V: was a creation of that very Government he seeked to get rid off!yes he was violent but he was what they made him!
Every one blames Bush for the problems of 8 yrs he was in office. All he did was ASK CONGRESS to WRITE what he wanted. They cud have said NO! But they didn't. They lined up behind HIM. As did the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Every 2 yrs we have sumthin called a VOTE. And we VOTE in the SAME PPL ovr and ovr. WAKE UP!!! It was MORE than just BUSH. It was our ENTIRE GOV!!!! ANd it continues with OUR NEW ONE. THE PREZ DOES NOT HAVE THAT MUCH POWER!! Read the Constitution!
congress had no choice in the matter my friend, if any member was thought to be going against the bill or whatever bush was putting forward they were targeted and threaten onto submission. Bush even had the gaul to threaten congress with martial law should they not do what he told them to do...
with the removal of the patriot act as well as many other key rights and freedoms of the US ... ect In my humble opinion The United States is now a dictatorship in every sense of the word
>if any member was thought to be going against the bill or whatever bush was putting forward they were targeted and threaten onto submission. Bush even had the gaul to threaten congress with martial law should they not do what he told them to do...
what exactly are your sources on this? Ive never heard a word of congressmen having their lives threatened by the president, nor bush threatening martial law. EVER
It also said in the constitution that you're rights could not be taken away from you, but then came along the patriot act. It is beyond bush, its beyond the government too.
@keepinlow Indeed. Sadly, few of us realise this. I'm not an American, but I'd argue I have as much respect for the founding fathers of your country and their beliefs as a lot of Americans do. Such a shame that people seem to have forgotten their words, and warnings. They truly were great men.
I'd never seen a Guy Fawkes mask on sale around November 5th or any other time; you can probably buy them now, but I suspect they'd only be available in comic/sci-fi shops and only because of the success of the film. People still set off fireworks and make bonfires, but I've only seen a 'Guy' (a stuffed man, similiar to a scarecrow in design) once or twice in 23 years. The only real traditions that have carried on to this day are the fireworks and bonfires, no-one really bothers about the rest
auch deutsche sehen das .. meint ihr alle wären so ich bin ein deutscher und ich bin stolz darauf .. ! die freiheit und gerechtigkeit ! das ist deutschland !!
Did I just hear the man say 'ENGLAND and Ireland'? Damn I fucking hate it when stupid americans/canadians (though canadians are usually better)use 'ENGLAND' as UK!!! Learn your fucking geography!!!!!
I didn't know they actually celebrate November the 5'th in Scotland or Wales. Do they? Also, he's not speaking on the geography of the UK. Though, it does seem to be a slip. My point is, you are just as ignorant of other countries as Americans or Canadians. I've been to the UK, and I spoke to many people who didn't know where Canada was on the map... Do not judge people as a country when yours is no better. Only judge as individuals.
The people of the United Fascist Union like this film and Guy Fawkes. They think its poking fun at baby Bush and his Stalinist regime, that's fullfilling the Rules of Communism.
I better tell Hether about these film clips so she can watch them. If this is anti-fascist I don't think we should watch these clips anymore or endorse this film for members.
The truth is that the book is an even darker story that was turned into a Hollywood blockbuster package product which makes V look like a fairy fag making eggs in a basket. That scene to me goes against everything that I loved about V. The film comes far from touching on the truly dark aspects of the original narrative that made the story mind blowing. Although Portman looks the part as Evey her accent is atrocious. I am not British but if I were I would be bursting out laughing at that accent.
James McTeigue is shit compared to Alan moore. The fact that anyone believes that this film is a celebrated peice of art is a slap in the face to the works of Alan Moore. The video makes it out to seem that James McTeigue is responsible for any qualities of V for Vendetta that makes it great.
Right on, but you'vr confused socialism with totalitarianism. Yes, I know what happend in the USSR, but just look up the definintions in a book; they're not the same thing.
Because Ireland is a completely separate country to Britain and has been for 85 years, that's why. Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales, the UK consists of Britian plus NORTHERN Ireland. The REPUBLIC of Ireland ( more than 3/4 of the island) is an independent country.
I don't mean he was a fascist, I just say his temptation was to reduce civil rights and rape citizens privacy, allw brutal methods fr the sake of security, ifhe had a political extremist temptation in mind it would be fascism.
and btw there is only 1 message that comes acress clear as the sky: turn around the V by 180degrees and ull get the spirit of this movie. theres no "hail democracy", "hail to the king", "hail to the leader". wise up, cocks...
Fascism is the one political doctrine thats never been nailed down. It's a fluid doctrine one where it's perfectly possible to have a democracy that is de facto (if not dejura) fascism
You are 110% wrong in this idiotic and ilconceived comment, and although I would love to quarrel with the pittiful likes of you for longer I have much better things to do, like cure my voracious appetite. Until next Time...
I hardly perceive a man such as bush to be anything more than a fly on Americas left shoulder, a fascist is going much to far my dear little friend, think of him more as well... an agitating little kibitzer whom has power over a nation.
In turn, what he did in going to war and seizing iraq was not a bad idea, actually it was the only good decision hes made, look back on his presidency though, what happened during it is not his fault nor any of ours, but it was the fault of the Christians 1000b
Come now my fellow Brides man, how does one contradict the actions of another, if thou has not had to make his same decisions. Put oneself in our Presidents predicament, back in 2001, now imagine the country that you've loved for all these years, has just been buried in the single event that marked that rest of our lives, were you not angered, but remember not to let this get the best of you...
Give me the alternative option my dear friend, what would your alternative have been?...
You must be joking, for a guy who tries so hard to sound educated you sure didn't do you homework. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 nor did they have any WMD's, they were a secular regime and kept terrorists out because they would be a challenge to Saddam's rule, now that we got rid of him it's a god damn free-for-all over there and we're right in the middle of it. Put away your old-English dictionary and read up on recent events of the decade before you tell me what was a good idea, seriously.
you may be right and I do agree with you, but saddam was not exactly safe to have as a power in the middle east, and although there were no wmd's, what if there had been, in that situation one can't hesitate he must react and react quickly. we did not invade iraq right after 9/11 it was after we invaded Afghanistan when sadamm threatenghed us so really idk the whole thing has been a mess but pulling out now will not solve anything, it will only worsen the matter over there.and im not for that.
Ok, I don't have a problem with you saying we shouldn't just pull out. I served over there as a United States Marine and I've seen some(!) progress. My problem is that you imply we didn't have an alternative and that it wasn't the wrong choice especially after you just stated that we were already involved in Afghanistan. Plus saddam did not threaten us and while he wasn't safe in power neither are half the heads of state around the world. He was better than what we have now any day, believe me.
Point is that Fascism is a political doctrine. Its not national socialism, its not communism, its not falanquism, its not peronism, its not social democracy, and so on. Fascism is not just dictatorship. The V for vendetta dictatorship was not a communist one, and not a fascist one.
fascism is the same totalitatic-socialism system but the difference is that fascism is ruled by a limited "box" of rulers. as for the ordinary totalitarism system young people are "set up" by system and the present ones are killed by default rule. why? just because they know that the one of the main weapons of reigning is "mind blurring" ("white power", "jewish must die", "asians are dirt", and etc.). mind blurring is need to make material results (money, popularity...). it's like using Killers.
Its weird hearing British Customs and History- which I've known so long I can't remember being taught- being said to an ignorant (as in they didn't know not as in stupid) audience
um, AFASCIST, i dont know what kind of cartoon u were watching when u were supposed to be watching V FOR VENDETTA, but it is a movie based on a Facsist government. Unless u call that democracy. If thats democracy then George Bush has an IQ of 240.
maybe its not directed towards Bush mayeb its directed to all polyical parties that think that they can controll everythign changing it to fit there needs.
the ones in power make you believe that if you go to a manifestation or if you attack them because they are not doing what they'd promised you are a terrorist or so, while when they kill million of innocents per year they are supposed fighting for progress and freedom (?) and when that reaches to the point where you are afraid of your own police, scared of "justice", panicked about your own thoughts
V is a fiction character so yours a tricky question, however if we are taking this whole thing to the edge I will always think that Anarchy is better than a society oppressed by a bunch of fatcats. About your statement that all kind of Governments work, that's true but you'd forgot only one question and that's "how",
anyways I don't have the solution for this but what I do know is that if you feel things are going terribly wrong, you should stand for your ideas even if that includes some bloodbath because who defines violence after all?
Freedom is slavery. War is peace. Fight all you want. Revolution creates new dictators. Nothing will change unless everyone from high to low class wants total equality and peace simply because.... people are selfish.
You should realize that poors don't get richer after revolution. Throughout the history of mankind, the poors were manipulated by the middle class people, who tells them that they deserve equality and freedom which the nobles and and tyrants don't want. The poors are then organized by the educated and influential middle class, and strikes the nobles. If the nobles are weakened, then revolution is a great success.
Most of the time, nobles have enough leadership to use their professional army to crush the rebellions. But even if the revolution was to succeed, the middle class will replace the nobles... and the poors are given promise that their life will get better, which is generally not the case.
this is very interesting please do not remove this video
geishabema87 2 months ago in playlist V for Vendetta
end the fed
wasabicorndog 6 months ago
Stalin killed more people then hitler? R u stupid? Fuckin hitler killed over 6million jews alone , plus many more none jews , stalin is a angel compared to dat fuck hitler
cl65amg69 8 months ago
@cl65amg69
No. I'm just really patient with ignorant tools like yourself.
And a degree holder in European history.
Stalin FAR exceeded Hitler's totals.
Hitler did kill many "none jews", but he didn't have as long as Stalin did to do his evil work.
ROOKTABULA 8 months ago 8
Stalin was arguably the worst totalitarian dictator in world history. Hitler is a very close second. But Stalin ruled much longer and was responsible for many more wars and was responsible for many more deaths than hitler. Plus Stalin put several Communist Dictators in Power, resulting in even more deaths.
brendanww2 4 months ago
@cl65amg69 You are incorrect. check Wikipedia
ARP7777777 8 months ago
@cl65amg69 Stalin is'nt an angel in any context. He killed his own people. Do your research. know your facts before you go around insulting people for their supposed "lack of knowledge"
hone58 2 months ago
Guy Fawkes was actually a hired mercenary and was of no relevence at all.
And he is not celebrated, Guy Fawkes day is used as an excuse to burn shit once a year by 13 year olds....nothing special
phr34kyy 9 months ago
I personally celebrate the fact that Guy Fawkes was stopped - as he and the others wanted to bring back Catholic rule, which pretty much oppressed the people. So I never really got why V seem to idolize him in a sense.
PuffyAmiYumi 9 months ago
Not to mention that he wasn't actually the one who planned the whole gun powder plot, despite being involved.
PuffyAmiYumi 9 months ago
I thought Guy Fawkes tried to blow up the House of Lords? And that they tried to hang him but he actually jumped off and ended up breaking his neck?
PuffyAmiYumi 9 months ago
Ireland doesn't celebrate it..
FMJIRISH 1 year ago
the statement that we have bon fires in ireland on the 5th of november is wrong, we do though have them on holloween
offthewaley 1 year ago
I LIKE POTATOOEEEESSSSSS!
XzTOBYzX 1 year ago
Mussolini (father of fascism) parents were socialists, he was named after a socialist, he joined the socialist party, edited a socialist newspaper and became one of the leading socialists of Italy. Please don't pontificate about how he is right wing.
smoochym 1 year ago
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" lot of this "fascism is a leftist thing" nonsense "
Mussolini, Hitler and Goebbels were all avowed socialists.
smoochym 1 year ago
the actor thinks v wants the govt. to be more responsible to the people!!!
Wrong!!
absolutely wrong!!!
He wants the people to be responsible for themselves!
He doesn't want a govt!
He's an anarchist!
Why don't they state it simply instead of talking about 'complexity' beating around the issue ffs
they're so scared of saying it
natmanprime 1 year ago
<3 Bonfire Night <3
ThomJBooth 1 year ago
Anarchism = win
jamaica2aroma 1 year ago
Not Fascism, just a natural reaction to the complex post-modern world that we all live in. Fascism is completely different.
DELTAFORCE851 1 year ago
Derp derp derp derp!
We are OPPRESSED!
Old man is too old,
deconstruction of films,
Whats worse, an oppressive government?
Or some old man pointing out obvious points?
killerZred 1 year ago
But yea the day the United States government switched over to a communist or fascist way of ruling the country then I'm gonna move the fuck out lol. Good buy to all our freedoms.
MichaelMyers87 1 year ago
@MichaelMyers87 And anyone who thinks wed still have ALL our freedoms if one of those 2 things happend are COMPLETE RETARDS. Look at all the communist governments in history. It always fails or gets overthrown because eventualy some crazy tyrant comes to power and has absolute control.
MichaelMyers87 1 year ago
Communism is just as bad as fascism. Neither should be used as a government for any country.
MichaelMyers87 1 year ago
@MichaelMyers87 You cannot catagorize Communism and Fascism. Fascism openly endorses Nationalism, SuperCapitalism, Rule of One, ect. According to The Manifesto of the Communist Party By Karl Marx ( founder of Communism), Communism is an Idea to establish a Workers Utopia, for Workers to free themselves from their Slave Master Capitalist Fat Cat Fascist Fucks. Communism is the Road to Real Democracy - Karl Marx. In the West, Democracy is for Who? Democracy for Slave Owners!
abuali89 1 year ago
He can do whatever he wants. Like kill several million people in work camps in a blizzard near the north pole. Stalin was a commy and thats always how commys are, tyranns.
MichaelMyers87 1 year ago
Stalin was basicaly Russias own Hitler, only they were too powerful for the us to defeat and charge him with crimes against the human race. He commited genocide on nearly as wide scale that Hitler did. And Stalin was a communist. Communism is just as bad as Fasism. Basicaly it starts out where the party has command and theres people have a say, but it always turns to one guy uniting it and becoming the sole leader of the country.
MichaelMyers87 1 year ago
@luarionte
Prove it.
Show me the sources please Beck Parrot.
ROOKTABULA 1 year ago
Question. Do people in the USA and the UK, really believe, and i mean really believe that they are not already living in a facist state? If they feel they are truley free, then i'd encourage them to find out the definition of facism and what constitutes it, and then look at their surroundings. We are not free, we are controlled, Investigate and you'll see it for yourself.
bigderekkeene 1 year ago
@bigderekkeene United States isnt fascist by any means lol. I can eat what i want, work where i want. you can make videos on youtube making fun of the president and not get arrested like in some countries. I can go outside and say i hate obama, hes a bad president! And nothing happens. Obama himself dont have complete control over the government. IN FACT ITS THE OPPOSITE. The government pushes HIM around.
MichaelMyers87 1 year ago
@MichaelMyers87 Enjoy those ''liberties'' they are the last bastions of what used to be freedom. Your freedoms are being slowly taken from you, we are sleep walking into totalitarianism and those things of which you spoke will be reoved from you soon enough. Unless we wake up!
bigderekkeene 1 year ago
@bigderekkeene The United States Government is designed so that on person never has too much power. Theres 3 forms of government, the courts, presidentail, and congress. They all keep each other in check. America will never be a communist or a fascist country.
MichaelMyers87 1 year ago
@luarionte I have seen countless documentaries on WW2, and never once heard that count contributed to Hitler. Please tell me you didn't get this from Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh.
ronin241703 1 year ago
@ronin241703
Do you really think they would "advertise" something like that in a documentary???
You're so naive!
luarionte 1 year ago
@luarionte
Where did you hear that?
I looked into it and I couldn't find anything to verify it; not even in a list of slogans used by Hitler.
Also, you know that even if that were true it would mean precisely NOTHING!. It's not like some subtle clue that Obama plans to murder an entire race of people, right?
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@luarionte
Hitler was bad because he attempted to wipe out an entire race of people, not because of his slogan or his health plan. Do you understand the difference?
A general rule I have found works well is, anyone whose argument is based entirely on Nazi comparisons has no actual argument.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
its Fashion and role Models ha ...... if your ugly it's a very far climb shit.... i been threw it all
ahhhh10chun 1 year ago
@ROOKTABULA
I am not a conservative! But i think you'll see what going to happenen in the next years with Obama!
(he was already a let down in these last years, wasn't he?)
luarionte 1 year ago
the rise of fascism has just as much potential within the left as the right.
george1punk2 1 year ago 3
ROOKTABULA 1 year ago 3
@ROOKTABULA
i dont care what you say, somone has to inforce it, the feeling of being in power completly overwelms you, thats why democracy becomes a dictatership, I AM NOT standing up for the right wing eather (please dont get the wrong end of the stick)
george1punk2 1 year ago
@george1punk2
" the feeling of being in power completly overwelms you"
...This is why we have strict term limits.
Also, for all the problems that any democracy has, do you have a suitable alternative?
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@ROOKTABULA
Jeez, haven't you learned anything from the Tea Party? Socialism, fascism, Nazis and communism all mean the same thing now; they are all synonyms for liberals!
But seriously, the thing that I find most frustrating about Fox is, for as much as Glenn Beck likes to cry about the left being Nazis, the fear tactics he employs is exactly how Hitler was able to rile his people up and get them to commit atrocities.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
@ROOKTABULA Communism is just as bad as Fascism. In both there is one person who rules everything.
MichaelMyers87 1 year ago 9
@MichaelMyers87
Umm generally, HISTORICally speaking?
No.
Fascist leaders have tended to treat their citizens, and their rights, FAR more harshly.
And under communism, it's a party, or army rule, with a leader.
ROOKTABULA 1 year ago
@ROOKTABULA I wish I had that pot your smoking. Joseph Stalin was the sole leader of russia, and had commited genocide against millions of his own people in work camps to build military bases. Millions died due to the cold weather, Stalin knew it would happen. And he was a COMUNIST.
MichaelMyers87 1 year ago
@ROOKTABULA
At the end of the day it's like choosing between a quick and a slow death.
ThomJBooth 1 year ago
"Fascist leaders have tended to treat their citizens, and their rights, FAR more harshly."
Tell that to the Kulaks, or the Tartars, the peasants of China or the intellectuals of Cambodia. Im sure they would disagree.
smoochym 1 year ago
I mean it's obvious, Communists treat peoples rights so well they have to send tanks into Prague.
smoochym 1 year ago
@ROOKTABULA I would rather live under a fascism then a communistic government, they were socialists yes but they allowed for the most part free business, in fact the military was supplied by private corporations like Krupp. Under a communism everyone is forced to slave away for the state, everyone is abused, in Germany you could own your own house and motor vehicle. Only the Jews and poles were oppressed, everyone else lived in relative peace. They are both evil but the Nazis were the lesser.
davedavedaveannoy1 1 year ago
@ROOKTABULA
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe you guys have been missing an essential point about this subject...
Communism, as Capitalism, is an economic ideology.
Fascism, as Democracy or Anarchy, is a political ideology. (I can't say about socialism... :S )
A Communist country can be Facist. Even if both ideals don't match in all ways (the idea of complete egality), they "could" work together. I believe Soviet Russia was one example of this... (I might be wrong!) Communist China was.
iChimoRawr 11 months ago
@ROOKTABULA well historicly, all we have to go by is russian communism, its great on paper but when people get greedy thats were it takes a turn for the worse
Dem640 10 months ago
@ROOKTABULA So-called communist states are just like fascist states - they're a totalitarian fusion between government and corporation, where the population primarily serves to work for the state. True socialism has only ever been achieved in Anarchist Spain in the 1930's, the 'communist states' that have emerged actually belong on the far-right, with fascist states. Just FYI, I'm a socialist, and I hate Fox News & the Republican Party.
acphenom 8 months ago
@ROOKTABULA lets see Stalin, and Mao and Castro all killed Many people, and Stalin killed more people than Hitler
cuniculusinsanus 8 months ago
@ROOKTABULA The Red Terror and Reign of Terror instituted by Lenin and Robespierre disagree with that, as well as others. Stalin even went so far as to purge fellow Communists, including his army and officers. Not to say that I'm pardoning Fascism at all, it's an evil ideology. But Communism and Fascism are both very similar in practice. The are where they disagree is their ideology, although even these are more similar than you think. Both advocate a strong government and regulated economy.
steppinoutstudios 8 months ago
@ROOKTABULA Well with all due respect... no. The Germans actually prospered under Hitler, he fought down the unemployment. Admittedly, he was the Black Plague as far as Jews were concerned, as well as political opponents, but overall the standard of living in Germany was higher than in the UK during that time period.
Whereas the Soviet Union's hallmarks were famine (the Holodomor) and stagnation.
DrStrangebomb1993 8 months ago
@MichaelMyers87
It depends whether you mean Communism, as practised thus far, or ideal Communism.
Ideally, a Communist country is anarchic, and precludes the bourgeois totalitarianism that facilitated the political dominance of people like Lenin and Stalin
p3rs0nan0ngrata 1 year ago
@MichaelMyers87 Have you read the Communist Manifesto? NOT ONE fucking word in their sais that One person should rule everything. It's actually the opposite in Communism. Communism and Stalinism are not the same, you American fucker. True Communism is rule by everyone, meaning everyone rules themselves, a Workers Utopia.
abuali89 1 year ago
the idea of communism isnt as harsh as fascism, but like all these ideas they get warped and destroyed by the greedy and power hungry
offthewaley 1 year ago 2
@offthewaley Wherever there is a government, there will be oppression. As Alan Moore himself said, "We don't need a government, we don't need people to boss us about. What we need is an administration"
It seems men and women, once given power, desire more and more of it, and the more of it they get, the more of it they abuse. I only wish there were more men like Moore-he's nothing short of a prophet, in my book. Christians have Jesus, Muslims have Mohamed. I have Alan Moore :D
warriorofwrestling 1 year ago
@ROOKTABULA It's not that simple. Fascism is in itself a form of socialism, and both Mussolini and Hitler began their careers as ardent socialists. Mussolini wrote about how he planned the dominion of business and capitalism by the state, and Hitler based his economy accordingly. The whole "pure blood" thing you leftists associate with fascism has nothing to do with it, that was simply Hitler tapping into ancient Germanic anti-Semitism that existed since the Dark Ages, long before Fascism.
steppinoutstudios 8 months ago
@ROOKTABULA Well here in Sweden - and presumably in the rest of Europe - we have something called AFA, Anti-Fascist Action. They're more fascist than the fascists they claim to fight - they have a fascist modus operandi - sabotage, silencing their opponents, et cetera... and yet they're "left-wing". So in a manner of speaking, both of them may give rise to some sort of fascism.
DrStrangebomb1993 8 months ago
@ROOKTABULA That's not entirely true. Yes it's true that Fascism is the extreme of Conservatism, however, there have been many notable populists and communists that used the tools of terror that Fascists do and whose governments transformed into the "right" after a period of time in power. This is a classic result of Marx's famous model of class warfare. Julius Caesar himself--who's story is often seen as the essential poster-child of collapse of free states--was an avid populist.
tpdgdwallace 6 months ago
@ROOKTABULA Perhaps if you spent more time reading Philosophy and not writing "sighhhh" Them maybe you would know that Fascism and Communism do in fact have a common origin in the Philosophical work of Hegel. So your really totally wrong aren't you?.
TempoTemple 5 months ago
@ROOKTABULA hitlers volkspartei were actually liberals
spankmybishop1 4 months ago
@ROOKTABULA hitlers volkspartei were actually liberals
spankmybishop1 4 months ago
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@ROOKTABULA hitlers volkspartei actually were liberals
spankmybishop1 4 months ago
@george1punk2 The fuck? No it doesn't, Fascism is strictly right wing you stupid ass!
abuali89 1 year ago
@george1punk2 You're a fucking moron. Do you understand the fact that you just stated, "red has just as much potential to be green as green"? Each phenomena is exclusive from the other; liberal fascism is impossible. Lenin? Stalin? Castro? Please. All right-wing fascist swine. If it looks like an apple, smells like an apple, tastes like an apple, feels like an apple, and fervently insists that it's an orange, would you assume that insistence is valid?
Patrissimo47 1 year ago
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latkeeeeeeee 1 year ago
Anarchy IS freedom :)
TwistedCreati0ns 1 year ago
@TwistedCreati0ns anarchy is freedom and lack thereof at the same time
animelubbor432 1 year ago
@animelubbor432 Yeah I was kinda kidding in my last comment. I think we need laws but not corrupt laws :)
TwistedCreati0ns 1 year ago
Guy Fawkes was for Catholicism and control by the Vatican, and blowing up English way of government and its rights for the common people.
He is a villain and a revolutionary. V however, is a guy on a vendetta.
Both are not really moral and one can question exactly what he accomplished.
soccom8341576 1 year ago
Well truth is that capitalism is based on private ownership while fascism is based on ownership of the state. While you anarchist fight against the "state", you're actually killing people and you are no different than those of dictators like Mussolini, stalin, Napoleon, and hitler, who had made anarchy in many different ways. Second, don't blame Bush. Blame the Cold War
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
ownership by the state? no copntrol maybe but private property was protected as was wealth.you have to remeber thaT FASCISM WAS SEEN AS a direct respnse to socialism and communism to reverse
socialisms pricipled and preserve wealth and heirarchy..thers no way an inteeleigent person can dispute that
archiebunkerville 2 years ago
Stalin and Franco were successful though. Anyways, what about Islam? It is the last vestige of fascism disguised as spirituality. Along with some Christianity/Jewish Zionism. No one is Chosen, we are all in the same boat.
brianpadraic 1 year ago
LOL, look at Nathalie Portman's face when she is getting shaved ... She is on the verge of crying XD
tryingtogetanameomg 2 years ago
end fascism now be an ANARCHIST FIGHT THE STATE
ANARCHOCHESSKING 2 years ago
Look, I'm tired of coming across these "stupid Americans" comments on youtube. Paladinzorro is fine, but InsaneAsJoker came of as offensive. Now look, I've have British history class and I know that Guy Fawkes was no hero, but the point of this video and of the movie, I believe, was to have a little fun looking at it through another veiwpoint. Also, I do believe that this movie had quite a few Europeans working on it, So if there is an error in the portrayal, it isn't only the Americans' fault.
thatboschkid 2 years ago
It is a fact that Fascism is considered to be a RIGHT WING system.
Butternife83 2 years ago
@Butternife83
who cares about left or right wing. socialism and facism do have the exactly same form of powerstructure and both kill off their enemies who do not want to be zombies or try to fight them.
you can obama facist or socialist, what stays the same is the corrupt unelected world leaders who run all the major banks and control the governments.
and we will soon be living in a place like the movie shows, if we don't fight back.
klauwn17 2 years ago
lol americans wrongly interpret nov 5 how unsuprising. its just an excuse to burn a man shaped object nowdays but guy fawkes is always portrayed as a failure and an enemy of the state. the plotters are never ever seen as heroes and are just a small footnote in history especially as the civil war was soon-ish after
InsaneAsJoker 2 years ago
most of us don't really see Guy Fawks as a hero. He was a reactinary catholic that was just attempting to stop the prodestant reform. Also it wasn't his plan he was just the one that got caught at the scene.
paladinzorro 2 years ago 3
you're right
yvolha 2 years ago
thts what agent smith sound like in real life...wow..
JiMMyJaM08061991 2 years ago 4
I think you've been listening to too much Alex Jones. The slogan of the NSDAP before the election was "Deutschland, erwache", which means "Germany, Awake."
BeethovenWannabe 2 years ago
rebel hero ?
most of us think he was a terrorist... and most of us are fairly proud of our monarchy
DarthChess 2 years ago 3
You republicans shouldn't be talking with your wiretaps and secret CIA prisons that flourished under Bush, I'm not saying Obama is much better though. Also some in your party, the radical religious right want to turn this nation into a theocracy. A fate worse than fascism.
Mrarmageddon8 2 years ago 4
@Mrarmageddon8 Watch the Obama Deception. There are no Democrats and Republicans. Watch America:Freedom to Fascism also.
1XMarksSpot 2 years ago
"No, you can't." was probably used by Hitler and his friends at times too. Big deal.
xprincexofxsavagesx 2 years ago
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DarthKreeg 2 years ago
This piece ISN'T about bashing Duhhh-Byuuuhhhh as the book was written over a DECADE before he stole power with his bro's help and the supreme court. And he was an alcoholic and a coke snorter. THAT shoulda disqualified his ass right there as it obviously fukt his brain. When I talk about America leaving up to the values it purports to extol: it's a 'C". When it's a war mongering, Authoritarian, police state: It get's a "k". If you don't like it, do something, Kaiser Darth.
ROOKTABULA 2 years ago
shame the interviewer failed to read the damm book on which this film was based on!
If he had,he would have realised why "V" was the way he was..he was a victim of the government who was brutalised and tourtured,in short "V: was a creation of that very Government he seeked to get rid off!yes he was violent but he was what they made him!
grahamkeithtodd 2 years ago
Its more than Bush, its more than Obama, its more than brown, its more than the 'government'. There's men behind the curtain and you know it.
OwzyB 2 years ago 4
v is my favorite character, he represents all my favorite characteristics of a human, the good and the bad ones. nice vid
a7xbeacon 2 years ago 4
yeah that's because the majority of the american people are stupid and the majority of the politicians are corrupt.
moshpiler 2 years ago
Every one blames Bush for the problems of 8 yrs he was in office. All he did was ASK CONGRESS to WRITE what he wanted. They cud have said NO! But they didn't. They lined up behind HIM. As did the AMERICAN PEOPLE. Every 2 yrs we have sumthin called a VOTE. And we VOTE in the SAME PPL ovr and ovr. WAKE UP!!! It was MORE than just BUSH. It was our ENTIRE GOV!!!! ANd it continues with OUR NEW ONE. THE PREZ DOES NOT HAVE THAT MUCH POWER!! Read the Constitution!
keepinlow 2 years ago 11
congress had no choice in the matter my friend, if any member was thought to be going against the bill or whatever bush was putting forward they were targeted and threaten onto submission. Bush even had the gaul to threaten congress with martial law should they not do what he told them to do...
with the removal of the patriot act as well as many other key rights and freedoms of the US ... ect In my humble opinion The United States is now a dictatorship in every sense of the word
Templarzealot89 2 years ago
>if any member was thought to be going against the bill or whatever bush was putting forward they were targeted and threaten onto submission. Bush even had the gaul to threaten congress with martial law should they not do what he told them to do...
what exactly are your sources on this? Ive never heard a word of congressmen having their lives threatened by the president, nor bush threatening martial law. EVER
anarchy0productions 2 years ago 2
America and, subsequently, the rest of the world, is run by multi-national companies.
It's an illusion of freedom that as been masterfully moulded using propaganda.
This has been going on for so long it just makes me sick.
Bush was a front, serving interests as is the rest of the political arena. Those that are against this are few, far between and powerless.
moshpiler 2 years ago 4
It also said in the constitution that you're rights could not be taken away from you, but then came along the patriot act. It is beyond bush, its beyond the government too.
OwzyB 2 years ago
Nothing's changed, only that greed and evil has controlled more people and driving them to more greed and more evil.
soccom8341576 1 year ago
@keepinlow Indeed. Sadly, few of us realise this. I'm not an American, but I'd argue I have as much respect for the founding fathers of your country and their beliefs as a lot of Americans do. Such a shame that people seem to have forgotten their words, and warnings. They truly were great men.
warriorofwrestling 1 year ago
Sorry were those masked used before the Comic/film were made, or were they a creation or Moore
theSkippyspartan 3 years ago
I'd never seen a Guy Fawkes mask on sale around November 5th or any other time; you can probably buy them now, but I suspect they'd only be available in comic/sci-fi shops and only because of the success of the film. People still set off fireworks and make bonfires, but I've only seen a 'Guy' (a stuffed man, similiar to a scarecrow in design) once or twice in 23 years. The only real traditions that have carried on to this day are the fireworks and bonfires, no-one really bothers about the rest
warriorofwrestlingv2 2 years ago
"347 days"
JJJadm 3 years ago
thats what i thought it says different things to different people
JJJadm 3 years ago
my favorite movie
JJJadm 3 years ago 2
im british an i dnt understand wats goin on ? am confused :S
OliiveeTree 3 years ago
auch deutsche sehen das .. meint ihr alle wären so ich bin ein deutscher und ich bin stolz darauf .. ! die freiheit und gerechtigkeit ! das ist deutschland !!
firstdutch 3 years ago
Did I just hear the man say 'ENGLAND and Ireland'? Damn I fucking hate it when stupid americans/canadians (though canadians are usually better)use 'ENGLAND' as UK!!! Learn your fucking geography!!!!!
whathuhwhere 3 years ago
It's just a reference to the same general area, really chill out
seantheiverson 3 years ago
England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are countries in their own right, under one crown = UK. It's like saying 'Texas' to reference the US.
whathuhwhere 3 years ago
I bet you couldn't name all the provinces of Canada, learn your fucking geography!
GenocideGod 3 years ago 7
You're right I can't, which is why I don't try, however if I were to talk on the subject I would learn, unlike the guy in the video.
whathuhwhere 3 years ago
I didn't know they actually celebrate November the 5'th in Scotland or Wales. Do they? Also, he's not speaking on the geography of the UK. Though, it does seem to be a slip. My point is, you are just as ignorant of other countries as Americans or Canadians. I've been to the UK, and I spoke to many people who didn't know where Canada was on the map... Do not judge people as a country when yours is no better. Only judge as individuals.
GenocideGod 3 years ago 2
Apologies on the generalisation thing, "I hate it when stupid people use 'ENGLAND'"
whathuhwhere 3 years ago 2
Of course we celebrate November 5th in Scotland. It's celebrated throughout the UK.
ahepburn 3 years ago 2
Agreed same here in Wales
dewi981 2 years ago
thats nothing, i spoke to a girl of 20 from england who didnt know where wales was!!!
bodbag 3 years ago
SHUT THE FUCK UP!
ColonelChaos007 3 years ago
The people of the United Fascist Union like this film and Guy Fawkes. They think its poking fun at baby Bush and his Stalinist regime, that's fullfilling the Rules of Communism.
I better tell Hether about these film clips so she can watch them. If this is anti-fascist I don't think we should watch these clips anymore or endorse this film for members.
Jackalman99 3 years ago
The truth is that the book is an even darker story that was turned into a Hollywood blockbuster package product which makes V look like a fairy fag making eggs in a basket. That scene to me goes against everything that I loved about V. The film comes far from touching on the truly dark aspects of the original narrative that made the story mind blowing. Although Portman looks the part as Evey her accent is atrocious. I am not British but if I were I would be bursting out laughing at that accent.
atviking 3 years ago
i'm British, but....nope..sorry..i didn't laugh.
bally28 3 years ago
James McTeigue is shit compared to Alan moore. The fact that anyone believes that this film is a celebrated peice of art is a slap in the face to the works of Alan Moore. The video makes it out to seem that James McTeigue is responsible for any qualities of V for Vendetta that makes it great.
atviking 3 years ago
Sounds Like V is OBAMA....Wow.
danesaregreat 3 years ago
Thanks for uploading this!
urmominacan 3 years ago
Shirley.
No Prob Bob.
ROOKTABULA 3 years ago
If someone say that fascism is "great", "right" or "perfect" form of goverment just because it makes an order in countries I'm just sorry for them...
Sanallio 3 years ago 2
Right on, but you'vr confused socialism with totalitarianism. Yes, I know what happend in the USSR, but just look up the definintions in a book; they're not the same thing.
JCLeSinge 3 years ago
I meant what about Wales and Scotland too, not just England and Ireland.
joshparry 3 years ago 2
england and ireland? why say that? just say britain. that annoys me so much , its like wales doesn't exist to americans, its ignorant
joshparry 3 years ago 2
Because Ireland is a completely separate country to Britain and has been for 85 years, that's why. Britain consists of England, Scotland and Wales, the UK consists of Britian plus NORTHERN Ireland. The REPUBLIC of Ireland ( more than 3/4 of the island) is an independent country.
eamonncake 3 years ago 4
That's not what s/he said, s/he is saying that people use 'England' to mean UK. Which is really, really, annoying.
whathuhwhere 3 years ago
could U.K. be like U.S. ie, (Distict of Columbia), the hidden hand of the Corporate State Ruling Elite?
gemworld. com/USAvsUS. htm
ngonea 3 years ago
I don't mean he was a fascist, I just say his temptation was to reduce civil rights and rape citizens privacy, allw brutal methods fr the sake of security, ifhe had a political extremist temptation in mind it would be fascism.
itsbizbuz 3 years ago
A republican from the united states is by definition unable to understand this movie nor the meaning of "fascism".
itsbizbuz 4 years ago 4
word. just check em out. "its not this, its not that" .. let me love my fascism!"... fucktards.
omgwhysohax 4 years ago
and btw there is only 1 message that comes acress clear as the sky: turn around the V by 180degrees and ull get the spirit of this movie. theres no "hail democracy", "hail to the king", "hail to the leader". wise up, cocks...
omgwhysohax 4 years ago
Though I understand your meaning, I think you should restrict your use of cussing in order to be taken more seriously.
katsklaw 4 years ago
Fascism is the one political doctrine thats never been nailed down. It's a fluid doctrine one where it's perfectly possible to have a democracy that is de facto (if not dejura) fascism
RedNProud 4 years ago 4
The meaning of the concpet and meaning are simple but, alot of detail to explain though.
Ggurl777 4 years ago
You are 110% wrong in this idiotic and ilconceived comment, and although I would love to quarrel with the pittiful likes of you for longer I have much better things to do, like cure my voracious appetite. Until next Time...
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GpOwnS 3 years ago
I am maybe wrong but Bush was not far from a fascist.
itsbizbuz 3 years ago 2
I hardly perceive a man such as bush to be anything more than a fly on Americas left shoulder, a fascist is going much to far my dear little friend, think of him more as well... an agitating little kibitzer whom has power over a nation.
In turn, what he did in going to war and seizing iraq was not a bad idea, actually it was the only good decision hes made, look back on his presidency though, what happened during it is not his fault nor any of ours, but it was the fault of the Christians 1000b
GpOwnS 3 years ago
"In turn, what he did in going to war and seizing iraq was not a bad idea, "
That statement must have required COPIOUS amounts of drugz!
You're right about Shrub tho:
Cheney/Rummy are the true architects of Fascist Amerika - and the more you research and dig, the more your se how accurate that title really is..
ROOKTABULA 3 years ago
Come now my fellow Brides man, how does one contradict the actions of another, if thou has not had to make his same decisions. Put oneself in our Presidents predicament, back in 2001, now imagine the country that you've loved for all these years, has just been buried in the single event that marked that rest of our lives, were you not angered, but remember not to let this get the best of you...
Give me the alternative option my dear friend, what would your alternative have been?...
Please do..
GpOwnS 3 years ago
You must be joking, for a guy who tries so hard to sound educated you sure didn't do you homework. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 nor did they have any WMD's, they were a secular regime and kept terrorists out because they would be a challenge to Saddam's rule, now that we got rid of him it's a god damn free-for-all over there and we're right in the middle of it. Put away your old-English dictionary and read up on recent events of the decade before you tell me what was a good idea, seriously.
succamadeek69 3 years ago 4
you may be right and I do agree with you, but saddam was not exactly safe to have as a power in the middle east, and although there were no wmd's, what if there had been, in that situation one can't hesitate he must react and react quickly. we did not invade iraq right after 9/11 it was after we invaded Afghanistan when sadamm threatenghed us so really idk the whole thing has been a mess but pulling out now will not solve anything, it will only worsen the matter over there.and im not for that.
GpOwnS 3 years ago
Ok, I don't have a problem with you saying we shouldn't just pull out. I served over there as a United States Marine and I've seen some(!) progress. My problem is that you imply we didn't have an alternative and that it wasn't the wrong choice especially after you just stated that we were already involved in Afghanistan. Plus saddam did not threaten us and while he wasn't safe in power neither are half the heads of state around the world. He was better than what we have now any day, believe me.
succamadeek69 3 years ago
Read Gentile, Read Mosley, Mussolini, Sorel (my favorite) ore read about corporatism, ore whatever.
Point is that Fascism is a political doctrine. Its not national socialism, its not communism, its not falanquism, its not peronism, its not social democracy, and so on. Fascism is not just dictatorship. The V for vendetta dictatorship was not a communist one, and not a fascist one.
AFascist 4 years ago 2
so nice to hear the voice of reason
peppermintjohn666 4 years ago 2
fascism is the same totalitatic-socialism system but the difference is that fascism is ruled by a limited "box" of rulers. as for the ordinary totalitarism system young people are "set up" by system and the present ones are killed by default rule. why? just because they know that the one of the main weapons of reigning is "mind blurring" ("white power", "jewish must die", "asians are dirt", and etc.). mind blurring is need to make material results (money, popularity...). it's like using Killers.
Sanallio 3 years ago
Its weird hearing British Customs and History- which I've known so long I can't remember being taught- being said to an ignorant (as in they didn't know not as in stupid) audience
welshdevondragon 4 years ago
um, AFASCIST, i dont know what kind of cartoon u were watching when u were supposed to be watching V FOR VENDETTA, but it is a movie based on a Facsist government. Unless u call that democracy. If thats democracy then George Bush has an IQ of 240.
babsuvulvawho 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Good film, but it has nothing to do with fascism.
AFascist 4 years ago
If you can't see the obvious parallels with fascism, you are truly blind.
MikestheCat 4 years ago 2
maybe its not directed towards Bush mayeb its directed to all polyical parties that think that they can controll everythign changing it to fit there needs.
ERBCHICK 4 years ago
Remember, remember the 5th of november.
SmokescreenNinjaz 4 years ago
I SURE REMEMBER THE 5TH OF NOVEMBER!
evansblack 4 years ago
I don't I was shit drunk and I'm not even a Brit! Go figure! :P
SmokescreenNinjaz 4 years ago
was the big blue room the UN assembly?
britboyal 4 years ago
Kinda think he was in the provicial legis in Toronto
ROOKTABULA 4 years ago
the ones in power make you believe that if you go to a manifestation or if you attack them because they are not doing what they'd promised you are a terrorist or so, while when they kill million of innocents per year they are supposed fighting for progress and freedom (?) and when that reaches to the point where you are afraid of your own police, scared of "justice", panicked about your own thoughts
yuserFB 4 years ago
right there you should make those bastards know who's allowing them the privilege to serve for the "demos" (people).
Anyways, I like that at least you are interested into defend something, eventhough I don't share it.
Take care!
yuserFB 4 years ago
V is a fiction character so yours a tricky question, however if we are taking this whole thing to the edge I will always think that Anarchy is better than a society oppressed by a bunch of fatcats. About your statement that all kind of Governments work, that's true but you'd forgot only one question and that's "how",
yuserFB 4 years ago
anyways I don't have the solution for this but what I do know is that if you feel things are going terribly wrong, you should stand for your ideas even if that includes some bloodbath because who defines violence after all?
yuserFB 4 years ago
Freedom is slavery. War is peace. Fight all you want. Revolution creates new dictators. Nothing will change unless everyone from high to low class wants total equality and peace simply because.... people are selfish.
pekau 4 years ago
but the concept of revolutions make that the poor might get a bit richer while the richs poorer...
just I don't think just because of what you say we should stay handscrossed all like "nuthin will change anyways"
yuserFB 4 years ago
You should realize that poors don't get richer after revolution. Throughout the history of mankind, the poors were manipulated by the middle class people, who tells them that they deserve equality and freedom which the nobles and and tyrants don't want. The poors are then organized by the educated and influential middle class, and strikes the nobles. If the nobles are weakened, then revolution is a great success.
pekau 4 years ago
Most of the time, nobles have enough leadership to use their professional army to crush the rebellions. But even if the revolution was to succeed, the middle class will replace the nobles... and the poors are given promise that their life will get better, which is generally not the case.
pekau 4 years ago